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Re: Wind instruments connected to front lighting circuit!

Craig Briggs
 

Bill,
That pesky "drip tray" is the only really serious design flaw on our Amel - when it rains my bar of soap gets soft!
Cheers,
Craig Briggs - s/v Sangaris / SN68  Tropic Isle Harbor, FL


Re: Wind instruments connected to front lighting circuit!

Bill Kinney
 

As Bill R suggests, this is certainly NOT Amel original, neither the wind instrument nor the wiring.  When you see wiring done like that it should alert you to inspect anything else a previous owner might have modified or added.  It is likely all done to the same "standard".

The "drip tray" collects water that comes down the wires from the mast, and then drips it into the head behind the door. Quite a bit of water can come in when the boat is oriented stern to the wind and rain, very little when bow to the wind.

A very important thing to be aware of with that drip tray:  Birds.  

Birds perched on top of the mast drop seeds in the mast.  I am convinced they must do it intentionally, because in some places there are a LOT of them. SOMEHOW these seeds end up in this drip tray.  In the tropics, there are a number of palm seeds that are the perfect size, and in the American northeast it is the seeds of the wild cherry trees.  The seeds can block the drain holes in the tray, which then overflows, and this can result in serious water damage to the bulkhead. It is a very valuable maintenance check to open this up and poke around to be sure the drain holes stay clear.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Port Louis, Grenada.


Re: Wind instruments connected to front lighting circuit!

 

Chris,

The answer to your question is known only to the previous owner and whoever installed this. This installation was done by someone with little or no understanding about your Amel and certainly not by Amel. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse 
Amel Owners Yacht School
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com 
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On Mon, Jun 27, 2022, 03:57 Chris Paul via groups.io <chris__paul=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi,
Please see attached word document.
This one seems really odd to me.
Maybe, this is the way it's done!
Hopefully, someone can explain what is going on and point me towards a solution.


Regards, Chris Paul 
SV Glazig
SM 352
Bay of Islands NZ


Re: Wind instruments connected to front lighting circuit!

Ian Park
 

Seems very odd. I’ve only ever inherited Raymarine instruments and their power comes from a red and ground wire direct from the display unit.
The second point is I’ve never had water in that drip tray. You should take the inspection plate off at the bottom of the mast and make sure you have a ‘drip loop’ in each wire before it goes up and over into the wiring tube. Also ensure the drain hole at the foot of the mast is not blocked. This ensures rain water down the mast never gets as far as the drip tray. I’ve just had my masts put back up and re-rigged so I know I have to do the drip loop in the mast after I’ve finished wiring up again.
Good Luck

Ian ‘Ocean Hobo’


Re: Turkey: Update on Gray Water and Black Water Disposal Requirements

Ian Park
 

I’m not in the Med, but If I were I would buy a large plastic water container, temporarily replace the outlet pipe on the bilge pump into the container to empty where you can.
Means being frugal with water at anchor. If this issue becomes more widespread I’d put a diverted valve on the outlet hose into a permanent tank.
From our Amel perspective this is a whole lot easier than a conventional boat with multiple seacock drains to sinks and showers.

Ian

Ocean Hobo (Wales)


Turkey: Update on Gray Water and Black Water Disposal Requirements

Ulrich Michael Dangelmeyer
 

Dear Ameliens,

An important request to all those who are currently and already this year cruising in Turkey between Bodrum and Kas. Especially in the Aegean, Göcek, Marmaris, (Gulf of) Fethiye with its enchanting bays and caves:
The strict official handling of sewage disposal is apparently currently being tightened further. 


The previous blue card regulation no longer applies since May. The new regulation requires an additional grey water tank, which may only be pumped out. Local law enforcement by harbour masters and coast guards has apparently been tightened.

Who of you can tell us the actual current situation and practical handling so that you don't experience any handicaps or have to convert your ship beforehand? 
Our Amel vessels are built completely differently, and we have no possibility of converting our grey water sump into a closed tank.
Any information and experience is helpful and much appreciated, there is a lot of uncertainty and also local arbitrariness.

Best thanks and always fair winds.

Ulrich
S/Y „Soleil Bleu“ /A54#088
currently Leros GR
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Re: Furler solenoid wiring from switch-solved

Ben "Santorin LO"
 

Just to let you know, Amel designed the original solenoid tandem to wire in paralale maybe more redundancy or less load. However one 2 way solenoid with 4 heads + 2xswitch can do tge same. Now next problem is to find a small enough one (or the biggest that can still fit in the compartment), after 7 shops - found it...


Wind instruments connected to front lighting circuit!

Chris Paul
 

Hi,
Please see attached word document.
This one seems really odd to me.
Maybe, this is the way it's done!
Hopefully, someone can explain what is going on and point me towards a solution.


Regards, Chris Paul 
SV Glazig
SM 352
Bay of Islands NZ


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bilge maintenance

Stefan Jeukendrup
 

Many thanks to Matt for the H2O2 suggestion and to Bill for the detailed answers and sharing your vast experience to us all.

The trapseal is actually just 4 PVC plumbing elbows, as in a post by another knowledgable member of this forum. Indeed a real syphon of the type Amel has mounted under the galley sink will perform much better underway and of cause this needs to be maintained.


I guess the underlying question will be difficult to answer:

Why does an Amel SM engine room has open connections to the living spaces?

Just for simplicity as Bill says?



Stefan Jeukendrup

sv Malaka Queen

SM2k #348 @Newry, Northern Ireland


Re: Anchor wash pump

Dimitris Krasopoulos
 

All pumps with sufficient output are working as a replacement. I have changed mine as well. The only problem is that the sea water smells in the beginning like rotten egg as it stays in the hose till the next use


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On Jun 27, 2022, at 9:13 AM, Dean Gillies <stella@...> wrote:

Bill,
Do you think a UP3/E pump would do the same job. The specs seem to be identical and I have one kicking around. (I asked Marco support, but got no response).
Cheers
Dean
SV Stella*****
A54-154


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Dean Gillies
SV Stella *****, Amel 54-154





Re: Anchor wash pump

Dean Gillies
 

Bill,
Do you think a UP3/E pump would do the same job. The specs seem to be identical and I have one kicking around. (I asked Marco support, but got no response).
Cheers
Dean
SV Stella*****
A54-154


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Dean Gillies
SV Stella *****,  Amel 54-154


Re: Whisker Poles needing work

Bill Kinney
 

Rivets are not an ideal fastener for this application, although they are quick and easy to install at the factory.  It is hard to get them really tight enough, and as a result there is movement between the parts under load, which leads to the fastens and holes becoming worn, which means it gets even worse trying to fit everything together when the rivet does fail (which they will).

We have used our poles a fair bit, and got tired of the regular repairs needed to the rivets.  I drilled and tapped the holes for appropriately sized pan head machine screws and that has held together perfectly.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Port Louis, Grenada.


Re: Whisker Poles needing work

David Dickman
 

Hi Chris,
  I believe I recall Brian on SV Delos had a video on how he accomplished the job using a shop in Florida and some parts from Amel.

Here is a link to get you started.


Best,
    David
    Galini
    A54-100 

On Sun, Jun 26, 2022 at 10:45 AM Chris Doucette <amaroksailing@...> wrote:
Today, whilst rigging the poles the connector popped right off out of the pole.  Lucky me to have thus happen with no harm or foul. Upon quick inspection it appears the rivets have corroded and broke-  So next port its time to replace them.  I suspect the job will require drilling  old ones out and replacing with proper molly coat.

Has anyone accomplished this?  I’m looking for any known rivet sizes and metal to use ( Aluminum or Stainless). I worry a bit about corrosion on SS and also strength on Aluminum;). 

Chris SM #385
Amarok


Re: Anchor wash pump

Alan Leslie
 

Like Danny we have a through deck fitting with one way valve and a twist in hose connection. Unlike Danny we don't have the chain only wash anymore. We have used the hose system for years in what are more often than not, muddy bottoms.
It means you can keep the bow lockers shut and stand on them.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: Whisker Poles needing work

Mark McGovern SV Cara
 
Edited

Chris,

I did this last year after noticing a few damaged rivets.  I used these Aluminum Blind Rivets with Aluminum Mandrel
Domed Head, 3/16" Diameter, for 0.751"-0.875" Material Thickness from McMaster-Carr:  https://www.mcmaster.com/97447A071/

You are riveting three pieces together so you need a rivet with at least 20mm grip length.  I now inspect the rivets on the poles as part of my pre-departure checklist and so far they are doing fine.

Here's some pics of the worst rivet and the three pieces that make up the assembly:







Some of the holes were a bit "ovalized" which is not ideal for a rivet joint, but we've but sailed several thousand miles using the poles since I did the repair and they seem to be fine.  If I notice any issues over time, I will likely just drill four (4) new holes and rivet the new holes.


Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Annapolis MD USA


Re: 𝗡𝗢𝗪 𝗛𝗘𝗔𝗥 𝗧𝗛𝗜𝗦

 

I sent a follow-up to them.

They were working on a code for you to use.

Bill


CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   

On Sun, Jun 26, 2022 at 10:50 AM Chris Doucette <amaroksailing@...> wrote:
Any new news here? I would love to take advantage here soon!  We are under way.

Chris
SM 385 Amarok


Re: 𝗡𝗢𝗪 𝗛𝗘𝗔𝗥 𝗧𝗛𝗜𝗦

Chris Doucette
 

Any new news here? I would love to take advantage here soon!  We are under way.

Chris
SM 385 Amarok


Whisker Poles needing work

Chris Doucette
 

Today, whilst rigging the poles the connector popped right off out of the pole.  Lucky me to have thus happen with no harm or foul. Upon quick inspection it appears the rivets have corroded and broke-  So next port its time to replace them.  I suspect the job will require drilling  old ones out and replacing with proper molly coat.

Has anyone accomplished this?  I’m looking for any known rivet sizes and metal to use ( Aluminum or Stainless). I worry a bit about corrosion on SS and also strength on Aluminum;). 

Chris SM #385
Amarok


Re: Anchor wash pump

Alexander Hofmann
 

Hey Kinney,

 

excellent idea to install a 3-way-valve in the bow locker. You are right and in a good humour! The wash of the chain is good, but when you really need it in cohesive mug like in Bretagne and many ‘rivers’ and logoons worldwide, you need more powerful measures.

 

My contribution: I have installed the smallest Kärcher high-pressure sprayer, the K2, in my cockpit locker, have a water output to connect the water in the cockpit near the manual Henderson bilge pump and a electric connection inside the cockpit locker. With a 8 m pressure hose in between the K2 and the nozzle I reach every part on deck. Easy to take just the hose and the nozzle out and leave all installation in place. Additionally I have 3 small wooden blocks that keep the locker 2 cm open, so I can use the seat and the hose is not squeezed. I use it for everything when I am out on sea and do not want to use too much of water for cleaning, also for sail cleaning while sailing single hand 😊 in rather calm seas.

 

Anyway, I’d like to install a short nozze and hose in the bow locker like you. Superbe idea. Also for cleaning the anchor. I use a 42 kg Bügel, which lifts up a lot of mug sometimes.

 

Can you tell me please the model of the Marco pump and where the pressure switch is, on the pump or external ? How do you operate this switch, switch it on when needed or leave it on always?

Is it the Marco / DP3 that you have noted previously, please?

 

I still have my old A.M.F.A. pump which shows quite some corrosion.

 

All the best

Alexander Hofmann

SY Oceanica I, Amel54#156, Lagos / Portugal

 

 


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