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Re: Mosquito Nets

Herbert Lackner
 

in the tropics we always use this "tool" in the night. Low noise computer fans with moskito nets that fit into the small window from the aft cabin to the cockpit (or in the bathroom or kitchen). Consumes minimal amps, no noise and makes a constant air flow through the aft cabin.  No moskitos and cool nights.

the first prototype out of wood (foto on at the top) served us many years, maybe Bill and Dennis remember that, we fabricated it at the pontoon when KALI MERA, BE BE and LIBERTAD were neighbours in Marokko / Rabat :-) , we now replaced it by a more sophisticated out out of acryl with 4 fans and two speed settings. this is designed to stay there moreless always.

tadeja and herbert
KALI MERA, SN120, still Mexico
 


Re: Mosquito Nets

Symphony
 

regarding No-See-Ums:  I had good luck in New England using standard mesh screen sprayed with Deet-based clothing spray.  Often a ton of tiny biting gnats in estuaries and coves during late spring.  We still had good airflow this way and saved running genset.

Richard
ex Vicem and ex Tartan
New Haven, CT


Re: BOW THRUSTER .Replacement cover does not align

 

Paolo,

The reason to only use the new cover that comes with the new gears and the prop shaft is that the new cover will correctly align the prop shaft gear to the vertical shaft gear. Mixing new and old will misalign things resulting in severe damage after only about 10 minutes of operation.
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CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   

On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 3:26 PM PAOLO CUNEO <pc43ge@...> wrote:
A late answer to Bill Kinney: unfortunately your wise recommendation (never drill through holes in the back plastic cap)  came in too late: I phoned immediately the shop but they were already beyond the no return point. However they point out that a) they reproduced exactly the drilling depth of the old cap and b) there is no trace of oil leaks - new o-ring and appropriate sealant. It is now 4 days I observe the assembly and everything seems ok, but certainly this is not a guarantee for the future.  
Short: I do not know if the old cap ( and drillings) was still the original  or there has been a wrong intervention by the previous owner. 
Little I can do now, only time will tell
Bests
Paolo Cuneo
SM 454 Whisper

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Paolo Cuneo
SM 454 Whisper


Re: Atlantic Tower Install - Port Fixing

Ken Uber
 

Alan, the arch is fixed to gunwal, and in those locations there is bleeding inside the lasserate, indicating moisture through the connection.  This is not so bad, its where the bracing was fixed in the centre of the stern, where the centre pole for the rope railing is, these fixings penetrated the core in this area and over time has allowed moisture to ingress. such that the lasserate is always damp.


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Regards
 
Ken Uber
SY Eleuthera
SM #007
Melbourne
Australia
0411 096 804


Re: BOW THRUSTER .Replacement cover does not align

PAOLO CUNEO
 

A late answer to Bill Kinney: unfortunately your wise recommendation (never drill through holes in the back plastic cap)  came in too late: I phoned immediately the shop but they were already beyond the no return point. However they point out that a) they reproduced exactly the drilling depth of the old cap and b) there is no trace of oil leaks - new o-ring and appropriate sealant. It is now 4 days I observe the assembly and everything seems ok, but certainly this is not a guarantee for the future.  
Short: I do not know if the old cap ( and drillings) was still the original  or there has been a wrong intervention by the previous owner. 
Little I can do now, only time will tell
Bests
Paolo Cuneo
SM 454 Whisper

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Paolo Cuneo
SM 454 Whisper


Re: Mosquito Nets

Dennis Johns
 

Depending on where you plan to go, you may want to make your screens suitable for No-See-Ums.  Mosquito netting is not fine enough to stop the tiny No-See-Ums and they can be just as annoying as mosquitos.  No-See-Um netting does restrict airflow a little more than mosquito netting but any screens over the hatches makes airflow minimal.

Dennis Johns
Libertad
Maramu 121

On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 12:01 PM Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:

 

After many trials and errors, we came up with these. They are made from starboard and are now over 5 years old. I started with a solid piece and then cut out the middle. The mesh is attached using a hot glue. On the edge, they have a some foam to make the fit snug. They can be installed and removed from inside the boat. They can be stowed under a mattress when not needed.




 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us


On 6/28/2022 7:41 AM, Rachael via groups.io wrote:
Hello All

I'm interested to know what fellow SM owners do to keep mosquitoes out, especially at night? Are there standard screens that can be bought for all the hatches? Do you place a net over the companion way? If you're sleeping in the cockpit, what do you do? All advice gratefully received!!

Rachael
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Rachael & Robin Courtenay
New Amel Owners of...
Pérdika SM232
Leros, Greece


Re: Mosquito Nets

Mark Erdos
 


 

After many trials and errors, we came up with these. They are made from starboard and are now over 5 years old. I started with a solid piece and then cut out the middle. The mesh is attached using a hot glue. On the edge, they have a some foam to make the fit snug. They can be installed and removed from inside the boat. They can be stowed under a mattress when not needed.




 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us


On 6/28/2022 7:41 AM, Rachael via groups.io wrote:

Hello All

I'm interested to know what fellow SM owners do to keep mosquitoes out, especially at night? Are there standard screens that can be bought for all the hatches? Do you place a net over the companion way? If you're sleeping in the cockpit, what do you do? All advice gratefully received!!

Rachael
--
Rachael & Robin Courtenay
New Amel Owners of...
Pérdika SM232
Leros, Greece


Re: B&G instrument covers and new ultrasonic speed sensors?

Rink De Haan
 

Hi all,

Since the original sonic speed sensors are out of production, very expensive and technology from 2 decades ago, why not opt for the new airmar sonic sensors? The are also not cheap but fit in the depth sensor fitting - at least it did on my #330 hull - and you have up to date technology. Same for the old instruments. Sooner or later you will have to change to NMEA2000 or STNG. 

I complete changed all instruments to new Raymarine including radar. It’s a relief when it alls works together without an issue. 

Cheers
Rink

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Op 28 jun. 2022 om 19:03 heeft CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> het volgende geschreven:


Stu,

This is the number of the sensors you need:
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CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   

On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 8:58 AM Stu and Lana Holmes via groups.io <stulana=yahoo.ca@groups.io> wrote:

Hi everyone:

I am looking for replacement instrument covers for my 4 B&G analog displays. Mine are beginning to fall apart.  Maybe someone out there has a few that they are willing to part with for the right price?  They don’t have to be perfect, just serviceable.  Or any suggestions of where to buy these new?  We are in the Mediterranean currently, but will be heading to the Caribbean in December. 

Also, I am looking for replacement B&G ultrasonic speed sensors.  They are difficult to come by, but I am wondering if someone out there bought some as spares, but don’t intend to use them.  I would make use of them  

Thanks!
Stu Holmes, 

SM 373, Oyai

 


Re: Atlantic Tower Install - Port Fixing

Mark Erdos
 

My Atlantic Tower Arch 2¢

Partially based on recommendations from other owners, I installed the arch on Cream Puff in August 2016. As others expressed to me, I too am very pleased with the product and would highly recommend it.

As with any new equipment added to a vessel, there are a couple of installation nuances that a prospective installer should pay attention to:

1. The arch needs to be tensioned using ratchet straps. This is an important step to minimize any side to side sway. The "how to" is stated in the instructions, but better explained in the online installation video on Atlantic Towers' website.

2. Because of the core balsa decks on Amels, care should be used drilling holes and mounting any equipment on the deck. Bill has provided a safe way of doing this. In addition, there are many commercial sealants if used correctly that can make a sound permanent waterproof seal. Care needs to be taken due to the deck groves to ensure these do not channel water to the bolts. When installing the arch, I used oversized backing plates rather than the ones in the kit. These can easily be fabricated at any metal shop. This probably wasn't necessary, but it made me feel better.

3. I installed a padeye on the transom. When underway, I have two wire cables that attach to this padeye using pelican hooks. The other end of these tightly tensioned cables goes to the top corners of the arch to alleviate any movement. Because they attach with a pelican hook, the starboard side cable (or both sides) can be easily removed when the stern boarding steps need to be used.

4. I do not sail blue-water with the dinghy lifted under the arch. Although the specs say this is possible, I am just not comfortable with any set up like this when offshore on any boat with any arch. Our dinghy is stowed and lashed upside down on the aft cabin top. On the few occasions we do sail in protected waters with the dinghy on the arch, the motor is removed. If on anchor, I find it easier to lift and lock the dinghy using the spare mizzen halyard and electric winch. The dinghy is lifted on the starboard side. If you lift it on the port side, this increases the already apparent Amel port list and in my case my air-conditioning drains do not work well. The main reason I installed the arch was for solar panels and wind generator mounting. I see the occasional dinghy storage is an incremental benefit.

5. Access to the lower side of the deck above the propane locker is needed to install the arch. This requires cutting a hole in the top of the propane locker. I used a 6" deck plate and mounted the frame using silicone sealant. The removable part of the deck plate has an o-ring, so the integrity of the propane locker is not compromised. In addition, I have a propane sniffer mounted in the lazarette just under the locker as part of the propane sniffer safety device.


Hope this helps.


 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 


Re: Turkey: Update on Gray Water and Black Water Disposal Requirements

Rick Stanley
 

I second this. I actually lived in Turkiye for over a year and had a MAGNIFICENT time, regardless of the current political idiocies going on. The Turkish people are great, the culture is amazing, the country is beautiful, and at worst, you might have to sling a little tip to the law enforcement types to get them off your back. Such is the cost of business.

Rules are enforced when they feel like it, and usually aren't at all. Worth taking note of, but probably nothing to sweat too badly.

Rick Stanley
Capt, S/V Althea SM2000 #317
Rock Hall, MD


Mosquito Nets

Rachael
 

Hello All

I'm interested to know what fellow SM owners do to keep mosquitoes out, especially at night? Are there standard screens that can be bought for all the hatches? Do you place a net over the companion way? If you're sleeping in the cockpit, what do you do? All advice gratefully received!!

Rachael
--
Rachael & Robin Courtenay
New Amel Owners of...
Pérdika SM232
Leros, Greece


Re: Replacement of Depth Transducer

 

On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 11:13 AM Roland Mueller <rolimueller@...> wrote:
Hi,

My depth meter shows zero and it seems the sensor is defective. Does anyone have experience with replacing the original B&G depth transducer? According to the technical descriptions on board, the part number is 401-00-011. But it seems difficult to get one.

Does anyone know if this part number is correct and where to get a replacement?

Regards,
Roland
SM 150 Aventura
Genua, Italy


Replacement of Depth Transducer

Roland Mueller
 

Hi,

My depth meter shows zero and it seems the sensor is defective. Does anyone have experience with replacing the original B&G depth transducer? According to the technical descriptions on board, the part number is 401-00-011. But it seems difficult to get one.

Does anyone know if this part number is correct and where to get a replacement?

Regards,
Roland
SM 150 Aventura
Genua, Italy


Re: B&G instrument covers and new ultrasonic speed sensors?

 

Stu,

This is the number of the sensors you need:
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CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   

On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 8:58 AM Stu and Lana Holmes via groups.io <stulana=yahoo.ca@groups.io> wrote:

Hi everyone:

I am looking for replacement instrument covers for my 4 B&G analog displays. Mine are beginning to fall apart.  Maybe someone out there has a few that they are willing to part with for the right price?  They don’t have to be perfect, just serviceable.  Or any suggestions of where to buy these new?  We are in the Mediterranean currently, but will be heading to the Caribbean in December. 

Also, I am looking for replacement B&G ultrasonic speed sensors.  They are difficult to come by, but I am wondering if someone out there bought some as spares, but don’t intend to use them.  I would make use of them  

Thanks!
Stu Holmes, 

SM 373, Oyai

 


Re: Fixed vs. Folding Prop

Bernd Spanner
 

Perfect Elja, thanks so much!
I just spoke to the guys and yes it’s pssible as requested 👍
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Bernd
SN 119 / NOMAD / Greece


Re: Replacement for JABSCO toilet wall switches SM2000

Rink De Haan
 

Yes I can confirm that this switch is a perfect fit. Similar size and wiring. 
When spending this money consider buying a complete new toilet set at €700. Will get you at least some spares and a fresh feel. 

Best regards 
Rink
SM2k #330. Razor’s Edge

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Op 28 jun. 2022 om 16:13 heeft CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> het volgende geschreven:


Use the newer version: Toilet Flush Switch Jabsco 37047-2000. Check me on this, but I believe it will be plug-n-play with even the screw holes lining up. Shop for best price.


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CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   

On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 7:10 AM Rick Stanley <rstanley907@...> wrote:
Hey folks has anyone identified a good replacement for the JABSCO toilet wall switches? Both of ours are cracked, beaten up, and have seen better days. Looked around online a bit, didn't see anything comparable.

Thanks,

Rick Stanley
Capt, S/V Althea SM2k #317
Rock Hall, MD


B&G instrument covers and new ultrasonic speed sensors?

Stu and Lana Holmes
 

Hi everyone:

I am looking for replacement instrument covers for my 4 B&G analog displays. Mine are beginning to fall apart.  Maybe someone out there has a few that they are willing to part with for the right price?  They don’t have to be perfect, just serviceable.  Or any suggestions of where to buy these new?  We are in the Mediterranean currently, but will be heading to the Caribbean in December. 

Also, I am looking for replacement B&G ultrasonic speed sensors.  They are difficult to come by, but I am wondering if someone out there bought some as spares, but don’t intend to use them.  I would make use of them  

Thanks!
Stu Holmes, 

SM 373, Oyai

 


Re: Atlantic Tower Install - Port Fixing

 

Paul,

There are several ways to look at this issue. Here is one way.




CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   

On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 8:29 AM Paul Harries via groups.io <Pharries=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Please outline optimal process for avoiding core damage.
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Paul Harries
Prospective Amel Buyer


Re: Atlantic Tower Install - Port Fixing

 

Alan,

The Leg Foot of the Atlantic Arch is designed to bolt onto the deck. The Emek Arch is bolted through the gunwale on the aft corners of the hull and standing on the hull stern gunwale edges of the stern.

It is easy to argue that the cause of water egress into the core with Atlantic Arch installations is caused by improper installation and I totally agree that this is a major contributor. As I said, I believe the moisture penetration can be aggravated by sailing in heavy seas with the dinghy on the arch. I assume that it could also be aggravated at anchor with swell causing side-to-side movement of a dingy suspended on the arch. The following is the resulting deck/core repair caused by moisture entering the core at an Atlantic Tower Leg Foot:
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CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   

On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 7:46 AM Bill Kinney <cruisingconsulting@...> wrote:
On Mon, Jun 27, 2022 at 09:08 PM, Ken Uber wrote:
Yes, whilst not an Atlantic Tower, rather an EMTEK Turkish install, the water ingress is real.  Waiting for summer to attend to the core. Is the result of poor workmanship. 
 
It matters not at all the design of the arch, but bad installation of any deck hardware in a balsa core will eventually result in core damage.  We had deck damage from at least 3 pieces of hardware that were installed with no sealing of the core. Two minor, and one serious.  Each of those parts was installed at the Amel factory.  It CAN be done right, and permanently right. The correct process is not difficult, it just takes care and time.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Port Louis, Grenada


 


Re: Atlantic Tower Install - Port Fixing

Paul Harries
 

Please outline optimal process for avoiding core damage.
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Paul Harries
Prospective Amel Buyer

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