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Re: 220v Dinghy Pump

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Hi Kent:

The inflator you describe is the standard Amel supplied 24 Volt DC inflator. In fact it is two 12 volt inflaters wired in series. When we took delivery of our boat from Amel Olivier Beaute. who did the delivery school, l made a point to instruct us never use this inflator when the battery chargers were operating, the genset was running or the main engine was charging as they put out about 28 volts onto the battery bus and the higher voltage would burn up the inflator.
I had previously looked for a 24 volt inflator in the USA and never found one. I think the lack of a vendor is why Amel chose the inflator they provided. You should be able to replicate their solution.

All the best, Gary Silver, Amel SM Hull #335

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "Kent Robertson" <karkauai@...> wrote:

Hi again, Amellers,
I'm looking to replace a 220v dinghy inflator that bit the dust. Looking at one by Intex that has Hi & Lo pressure switch. Does anyone have any experience with this one or any other that you'd recommend? I'm finding it hard to locate 220v pumps in the USA.

Thanks for your advice.
Kent
SM243
"Kristy"
Re: [Amel] 220v Dinghy Pump

kimberlite <kimberlite@...>
 

I always assumed that the inflators were 12 volt units since I had Amel
install a 24 volt outlet in the cockpit and it has the same plug. My
assumption is that the pumps were 12 volt pumps wired in series. The
circuit breaker for mine is located above the mid ships bunk.

Eric Frosyth is a rather modest man Cruising Club of America Blue water
medal winner. At least 3 circumnavigations returning including a
circumnavigation of the Antarctic. He has also been to Iceland and
Greenland 2 years ago. This time as I am sure you know he completed the
Northwest Passage in the last year.

I believe he is about 75 or 76.



We have sailed together on Kimberlite to a CCA rally and he was fabulous
crew and very entertaining. He built his boat from the hull up in his
backyard. It took 8 years. He is an old time very tough old sailor.



Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Kent Robertson
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2010 6:26 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel] 220v Dinghy Pump





Hi, Eric,
The inflator I'm talking about was two green blowers hooked together and
wired with a 220v type plug that was on "Kristy" when I bought her. I added
a 110 inverter to charge my laptop and other equipment,but it isn't located
in a good place to pump the dinghy. I assumed the two connected pumps were
220v pumps as there is an outlet on the starboard side of the forward
bulkhead in the aft lazarrette that has a 220 type plug. I haven't checked
to see if it's 220 or 110, but I don't think there's any other inverter to
convert 220 to 110v unless the inverter that changes 110 shorepower to 220
works in a reciprocal fashion. I'll have to put my multitester on the
outlet and check it out. Guess it could be 12or 24 DC or 110 or 220v AC.
I couldn't find any info labels or stamps on the blowers that say anything
about their voltage or amperage.

Are you thinking about taking the two apart or do you have another pump?

By the way, I met a friend? of yours while in Eleuthera in April. Eric
Forsythe on "Fiona". Says he's known you for a long time and said to say
Hi. He'd been in the Caribbean for a year or two and was on his way back to
New York.

Thanks,
Kent
SM243
KRISTY

--- On Fri, 5/28/10, kimberlite <kimberlite@...
<mailto:kimberlite%40optonline.net> > wrote:

From: kimberlite <kimberlite@...
<mailto:kimberlite%40optonline.net> >
Subject: RE: [Amel] 220v Dinghy Pump
To: amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Friday, May 28, 2010, 9:16 PM



My boat came with two 12 volt inflators connected together do you have a
inverter on board that delivers 110 volts? I have a spare for sale.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite
Re: [Amel] ST7000 Autohelm "Low Battery"

kimberlite <kimberlite@...>
 

I would check the wiring again including substituting the cable from the
Corse computer to the 7000 head. It seems to be resistance in the wire or a
bad head.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Lars H. Knudsen
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2010 6:19 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: SV: [Amel] ST7000 Autohelm "Low Battery"





I would recomment to check your drive unit. I have had problems with my
autopilot which could just shut off from time to time – often when the drive
unit was engaged. Raymarine said my unit was to old to repair so I decided
to buy a new and more advanced type. It has functioned flawlessly since.

Lars,

Santorin Salvagny #79

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Sendt: 29. maj 2010 13:58
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Emne: [Amel] ST7000 Autohelm "Low Battery"

When engaging my ST7000 Autohelm, it is reading "low battery". I checked the
battery voltage and it is not low. I checked the voltage at the computer and
found it to be normal voltage. Checked the cables for corrosion, none found.
I have not found much discussion on this forum regarding this issue. Has
anyone else had the autohelm read "low battery" and how did you resolve it?

Pat
SM123
Shenanigans

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Re: [Amel] 220v Dinghy Pump

Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Kent,

When you say "two green blowers hooked together and wired with a 220v type plug," you are describing exactly the 24VDC dinghy inflation pump(s) that came with BeBe, #387. The pump plugs into a 24VDC receptacle in the rear lazerette and the breaker for this receptacle is above the ceiling of the passage berth. The plug and the receptacle are large and might be mistaken for 230.

I feel quite certain that Amel would not have put a 230 Volt dinghy compressor on your boat.

Best,

Bill
s/v BeBe, SM2k, #387
Currently Malaysia

--- In amelyachtowners@..., Kent Robertson <karkauai@...> wrote:

Hi, Eric,
The inflator I'm talking about was two green blowers hooked together and wired with a 220v type plug that was on "Kristy" when I bought her.  I added a 110 inverter to charge my laptop and other equipment,but it isn't located in a good place to pump the dinghy.  I assumed the two connected pumps were 220v pumps as there is an outlet on the starboard side of the forward bulkhead in the aft lazarrette that has a 220 type plug.  I haven't checked to see if it's 220 or 110, but I don't think there's any other inverter to convert 220 to 110v unless the inverter that changes 110 shorepower to 220 works in a reciprocal fashion.  I'll have to put my multitester on the outlet and check it out.   Guess it could be 12or 24 DC or 110 or 220v AC.  I couldn't find any info labels or stamps on the blowers that say anything about their voltage or amperage.
 
Are you thinking about taking the two apart or do you have another pump?
 
By the way, I met a friend? of yours while in Eleuthera in April.  Eric Forsythe on "Fiona".  Says he's known you for a long time and said to say Hi.  He'd been in the Caribbean for a year or two and was on his way back to New York.
 
Thanks,
Kent
SM243
KRISTY
Re: [Amel] 220v Dinghy Pump

karkauai
 

I knew you guys would give me some great ideas.  I'll try it out.
Kent

--- On Sat, 5/29/10, richard03801@... <richard03801@...> wrote:


From: richard03801@... <richard03801@...>
Subject: Re: [Amel] 220v Dinghy Pump
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Saturday, May 29, 2010, 4:09 AM


 



Think about using the out flow from your vacumm cleaner. That's how we do it. Richard SM 209
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Kent Robertson" <karkauai@...>
Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 00:49:50
To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Subject: [Amel] 220v Dinghy Pump

Hi again, Amellers,
I'm looking to replace a 220v dinghy inflator that bit the dust. Looking at one by Intex that has Hi & Lo pressure switch. Does anyone have any experience with this one or any other that you'd recommend? I'm finding it hard to locate 220v pumps in the USA.

Thanks for your advice.
Kent
SM243
"Kristy"

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Re: [Amel] 220v Dinghy Pump

karkauai
 

Hi, Eric,
The inflator I'm talking about was two green blowers hooked together and wired with a 220v type plug that was on "Kristy" when I bought her.  I added a 110 inverter to charge my laptop and other equipment,but it isn't located in a good place to pump the dinghy.  I assumed the two connected pumps were 220v pumps as there is an outlet on the starboard side of the forward bulkhead in the aft lazarrette that has a 220 type plug.  I haven't checked to see if it's 220 or 110, but I don't think there's any other inverter to convert 220 to 110v unless the inverter that changes 110 shorepower to 220 works in a reciprocal fashion.  I'll have to put my multitester on the outlet and check it out.   Guess it could be 12or 24 DC or 110 or 220v AC.  I couldn't find any info labels or stamps on the blowers that say anything about their voltage or amperage.
 
Are you thinking about taking the two apart or do you have another pump?
 
By the way, I met a friend? of yours while in Eleuthera in April.  Eric Forsythe on "Fiona".  Says he's known you for a long time and said to say Hi.  He'd been in the Caribbean for a year or two and was on his way back to New York.
 
Thanks,
Kent
SM243
KRISTY

--- On Fri, 5/28/10, kimberlite <kimberlite@...> wrote:


From: kimberlite <kimberlite@...>
Subject: RE: [Amel] 220v Dinghy Pump
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Friday, May 28, 2010, 9:16 PM


 



My boat came with two 12 volt inflators connected together do you have a
inverter on board that delivers 110 volts? I have a spare for sale.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite
Re: [Amel] ST7000 Autohelm "Low Battery"

Lars H. Knudsen <museum@...>
 

I would recomment to check your drive unit. I have had problems with my
autopilot which could just shut off from time to time – often when the drive
unit was engaged. Raymarine said my unit was to old to repair so I decided
to buy a new and more advanced type. It has functioned flawlessly since.



Lars,

Santorin Salvagny #79



Fra: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] På vegne af sailw32
Sendt: 29. maj 2010 13:58
Til: amelyachtowners@...
Emne: [Amel] ST7000 Autohelm "Low Battery"





When engaging my ST7000 Autohelm, it is reading "low battery". I checked the
battery voltage and it is not low. I checked the voltage at the computer and
found it to be normal voltage. Checked the cables for corrosion, none found.
I have not found much discussion on this forum regarding this issue. Has
anyone else had the autohelm read "low battery" and how did you resolve it?

Pat
SM123
Shenanigans





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Re: [Amel] ST7000 Autohelm "Low Battery"

richard03801@...
 

Pat turn off the unit and pull the fuse wait 5 min and put a new fuse in and start up. If you still get low voltage message you have a battery in you control box that is get old and there for low. Check with RayMarine in NH. Call w/questions.
Good luck. Richard SM209
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-----Original Message-----
From: "sailw32" <sailw32@...>
Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 11:57:44
To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Subject: [Amel] ST7000 Autohelm "Low Battery"

When engaging my ST7000 Autohelm, it is reading "low battery". I checked the battery voltage and it is not low. I checked the voltage at the computer and found it to be normal voltage. Checked the cables for corrosion, none found. I have not found much discussion on this forum regarding this issue. Has anyone else had the autohelm read "low battery" and how did you resolve it?

Pat
SM123
Shenanigans
Re: ST7000 Autohelm "Low Battery"

assistanttoblackdog <atwaterfour@...>
 

Pat, This is just a wild guess as I don't have an ST7000, but does the
unit maybe have its own battery somewhere, like a "button cell" or
something, in order to save its memory & calibration settings if/when
the ship's DC supply is disconnected from the unit? - Jim Anderson

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "sailw32" <sailw32@...> wrote:

When engaging my ST7000 Autohelm, it is reading "low battery". I
checked the battery voltage and it is not low. I checked the voltage at
the computer and found it to be normal voltage. Checked the cables for
corrosion, none found. I have not found much discussion on this forum
regarding this issue. Has anyone else had the autohelm read "low
battery" and how did you resolve it?

Pat
SM123
Shenanigans
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rapp.jeffrey <rapp.jeffrey@...>
 

After 3 wonderful years of full time cruising, our beloved Super Maramu Millenenium "Antares" (hull #378) is for sale in Fort Lauderdale, Florida. She is fully equipped and ready to go again, with lots of extras. Please call our good friend and yacht broker Joel Potter at 954-462-5869 for more information.
Jeffrey Rapp
"Antares"
SM2K 378
ST7000 Autohelm "Low Battery"

Patrick McAneny
 

When engaging my ST7000 Autohelm, it is reading "low battery". I checked the battery voltage and it is not low. I checked the voltage at the computer and found it to be normal voltage. Checked the cables for corrosion, none found. I have not found much discussion on this forum regarding this issue. Has anyone else had the autohelm read "low battery" and how did you resolve it?

Pat
SM123
Shenanigans
Re: [Amel] 220v Dinghy Pump

richard03801@...
 

Think about using the out flow from your vacumm cleaner. That's how we do it. Richard SM 209
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

-----Original Message-----
From: "Kent Robertson" <karkauai@...>
Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 00:49:50
To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Subject: [Amel] 220v Dinghy Pump

Hi again, Amellers,
I'm looking to replace a 220v dinghy inflator that bit the dust. Looking at one by Intex that has Hi & Lo pressure switch. Does anyone have any experience with this one or any other that you'd recommend? I'm finding it hard to locate 220v pumps in the USA.

Thanks for your advice.
Kent
SM243
"Kristy"
Re: [Amel] 220v Dinghy Pump

kimberlite <kimberlite@...>
 

My boat came with two 12 volt inflators connected together do you have a
inverter on board that delivers 110 volts? I have a spare for sale.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Kent Robertson
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 8:50 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel] 220v Dinghy Pump





Hi again, Amellers,
I'm looking to replace a 220v dinghy inflator that bit the dust. Looking at
one by Intex that has Hi & Lo pressure switch. Does anyone have any
experience with this one or any other that you'd recommend? I'm finding it
hard to locate 220v pumps in the USA.

Thanks for your advice.
Kent
SM243
"Kristy"
220v Dinghy Pump

karkauai
 

Hi again, Amellers,
I'm looking to replace a 220v dinghy inflator that bit the dust. Looking at one by Intex that has Hi & Lo pressure switch. Does anyone have any experience with this one or any other that you'd recommend? I'm finding it hard to locate 220v pumps in the USA.

Thanks for your advice.
Kent
SM243
"Kristy"
Re: [Amel] Curtain Slides

karkauai
 

Hi, Ruth,
I've sent a request in to Amel Caraibes for a quote.
Will let you know what they cost.
Hi to John.  Hope his shoulder's healed and you two are enjoying sailing.
Kent

--- On Fri, 5/28/10, john martin <symoondog@...> wrote:


From: john martin <symoondog@...>
Subject: RE: [Amel] Curtain Slides
To: "Amel YAHOO GROUP" <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Friday, May 28, 2010, 1:28 PM



Kent we had the same problem a few years ago.  Recmar slides #3050 and endstops #3030 are a good replacement for the small slides.  I have not yet needed to replace the bigger ones but I dont think Recmar has any that can replace them.

Ruth

MOON DOG SM 248



To: amelyachtowners@...
From: karkauai@...
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 03:48:30 -0700
Subject: RE: [Amel] Curtain Slides

 



Thanks, Eric.  I'll try to get them from Amel Caraibes via post.
Kent

--- On Tue, 5/25/10, kimberlite <kimberlite@...> wrote:

From: kimberlite <kimberlite@...>
Subject: RE: [Amel] Curtain Slides
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Tuesday, May 25, 2010, 8:29 PM

 

If you are in the USA just have Amel put them in an envelope and mail them.

The FedEx charges are ridiculous.

Fair Winds

Eric

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From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Kent Robertson
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 9:33 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel] Curtain Slides

Thanks, Eric and Mark. I think the one that SailRite has is a bit different
size when I compare my measurements to the ones on the website. If Amel
sells them at a reasonable price, that sounds like the easiest way to get
them.
Kent

--- On Mon, 5/24/10, kimberlite <kimberlite@...
<mailto:kimberlite%40optonline.net> > wrote:

From: kimberlite <kimberlite@...
<mailto:kimberlite%40optonline.net> >
Subject: RE: [Amel] Curtain Slides
To: amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Monday, May 24, 2010, 8:21 PM

I just did a search and saw that sailrite has a similar slide.

Eric

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From: amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of kimberlite
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 8:19 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Amel] Curtain Slides

I got mine through amel.

Or you can wait till next year and get them on a French island.

I could not find them in the usa.

Here is a note from Amel. Dear Mr. Freedman,

We have checked in the Marina on a similar Super Maramu as yours and 6mm
sliders are for the window curtains and 10 mm sliders are for the shower and
wardrobe curtains

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

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From: amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Kent Robertson
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 7:38 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Amel] Curtain Slides

Hi, everyone,
Had a great winter in the Eastern Caribbean, very few problems with the boat
but discovered that the captain still has a lot to learn. No major problems,
but got lucky a few times. Back on the Chesapeake for the Summer months
again...working and doing weekends on the boat to do maintenance and a few
weekend sails when the wind's good enough to sail. Please let me know if
you're around, I'd love to hook up with any/all of you for a beer, glass of
wine, dinner, ???

Calling for help finding the little plastic slides that hold the curtains up
thruout the boat (shower curtains, all curtains and shades). Seems like
nearly half of them are broken on the shower curtains, and a few on the
others.

Is everyone having the same problem, or was the previous owner just hard on
them? I've found some that look similar at Recmar Products, but the
dimensions are wrong for our tracks, I think. Does anyone have a source for
these, or aftermarket replacement that would be more durable?

Thanks as usual for all your help. I'm finally getting to the point that I
found I could fix most...well, many...of the problems that cropped up this
season, thanks to all your help and prior posts on just about everything
that pertains to Amels.

Kent
SM 243
"Kristy"

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Re: [Amel] Curtain Slides

john martin <symoondog@...>
 

Kent we had the same problem a few years ago. Recmar slides #3050 and endstops #3030 are a good replacement for the small slides. I have not yet needed to replace the bigger ones but I dont think Recmar has any that can replace them.

Ruth

MOON DOG SM 248



To: amelyachtowners@...
From: karkauai@...
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 03:48:30 -0700
Subject: RE: [Amel] Curtain Slides





Thanks, Eric. I'll try to get them from Amel Caraibes via post.
Kent

--- On Tue, 5/25/10, kimberlite <kimberlite@...> wrote:

From: kimberlite <kimberlite@...>
Subject: RE: [Amel] Curtain Slides
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Tuesday, May 25, 2010, 8:29 PM



If you are in the USA just have Amel put them in an envelope and mail them.

The FedEx charges are ridiculous.

Fair Winds

Eric

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From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Kent Robertson
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 9:33 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel] Curtain Slides

Thanks, Eric and Mark. I think the one that SailRite has is a bit different
size when I compare my measurements to the ones on the website. If Amel
sells them at a reasonable price, that sounds like the easiest way to get
them.
Kent

--- On Mon, 5/24/10, kimberlite <kimberlite@...
<mailto:kimberlite%40optonline.net> > wrote:

From: kimberlite <kimberlite@...
<mailto:kimberlite%40optonline.net> >
Subject: RE: [Amel] Curtain Slides
To: amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Monday, May 24, 2010, 8:21 PM

I just did a search and saw that sailrite has a similar slide.

Eric

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From: amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of kimberlite
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 8:19 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Amel] Curtain Slides

I got mine through amel.

Or you can wait till next year and get them on a French island.

I could not find them in the usa.

Here is a note from Amel. Dear Mr. Freedman,

We have checked in the Marina on a similar Super Maramu as yours and 6mm
sliders are for the window curtains and 10 mm sliders are for the shower and
wardrobe curtains

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

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From: amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Kent Robertson
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 7:38 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Amel] Curtain Slides

Hi, everyone,
Had a great winter in the Eastern Caribbean, very few problems with the boat
but discovered that the captain still has a lot to learn. No major problems,
but got lucky a few times. Back on the Chesapeake for the Summer months
again...working and doing weekends on the boat to do maintenance and a few
weekend sails when the wind's good enough to sail. Please let me know if
you're around, I'd love to hook up with any/all of you for a beer, glass of
wine, dinner, ???

Calling for help finding the little plastic slides that hold the curtains up
thruout the boat (shower curtains, all curtains and shades). Seems like
nearly half of them are broken on the shower curtains, and a few on the
others.

Is everyone having the same problem, or was the previous owner just hard on
them? I've found some that look similar at Recmar Products, but the
dimensions are wrong for our tracks, I think. Does anyone have a source for
these, or aftermarket replacement that would be more durable?

Thanks as usual for all your help. I'm finally getting to the point that I
found I could fix most...well, many...of the problems that cropped up this
season, thanks to all your help and prior posts on just about everything
that pertains to Amels.

Kent
SM 243
"Kristy"

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Re: [Amel] AIS

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Richard, It has to be a Brit sport--noone in the colonies would be clever ( or devious) enough to invent a pitch of 22 yards. Cheers, Ian

To: amelyachtowners@...
From: richard03801@...
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 09:45:03 +0000
Subject: Re: [Amel] AIS

Hey thanks you're the first to answer that question I've asked it many times to many a sailor including a good number of old salt Captains.
What's a pitch is that from American baseball or some foolish Brit so called sport with folks dressed for church and a fly swatter of a "bat".
All the best mates.
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From: Ian & Judy Jenkins <ianjudyjenkins@...>
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 21:54:43
To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Subject: RE: [Amel] AIS


Hi Richard, One nautical mile is 2000 yards. One cable is a tenth of a nautical mile, 200 yards--or to put it into really simple terms , about nine cricket pitches..... Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Hamble

To: amelyachtowners@...
From: richard03801@...
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 16:10:33 +0000
Subject: Re: [Amel] AIS

We fully agree the only way to get a ships response is to call the by have your position course and speed in front of you. Say your intentions clearly and slowly. In many miles at sea we've found this works well. In fact if you listen in on the bridge to bridge chatter they do the same.

We use a stand alone AIS that works well and give us a stable display and a single antenna with a spliter. Add an Icom digital VHF with a full feature mike at the helm as well as chart plotter radar. Now that we have AIS we can use the radar pause feature to save battery power. We cycle the radar every 20 min. Unless we have weather or targets on screen.
Does anyone know how far a cable is????

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-----Original Message-----
From: "rossirossix4" <rossidesigngroup@...>
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 15:54:55
To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Subject: [Amel] AIS

I asked my daughter about MMSI calls to ships. She is a ships bridge officer--2nd officer--with extensive experience in the Strait of Malacca, Gibraltar and other crowded places. She says that they "never" get MMSI calls and that it would be "weird" to get one. (This, in my opinion doesn't mean it would be wrong to use it to "ring em up" in an urgent situation.

She did say that if you use the ships name it definitely gets their attention and they should respond to you. Also give your distance, your bearing from them (the reciprocal what you show for them), description of your boat and your intentions.

For those of us who need to replace our non-DSC fixed VHFs anyway, Standard Horizon has a relatively inexpensive ($315 street price) VHF--Matrix AIS GX2100 with a built in AIS receiver and screen. The available remote mic (maybe in your cockpit) also displays the AIS screen, which shows the normal AIS calculated data plus the name of the vessels, kind of handy at 3:00 am--see em, call em. http://www.standardhorizon.com/indexVS.cfm?cmd=DisplayProducts&ProdCatID=83&encProdID=F858763BB81027701141A0167DE2A031&DivisionID=3&isArchived=0

Standard Horizon sent me a picture of the remote mic displaying an AIS screen display--again, handy in the cockpit.

Class B transceiver also sounds good. They consume very little power (I covered this in a previous posting).

Bob
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Re: [Amel] AIS

richard03801@...
 

Hey thanks you're the first to answer that question I've asked it many times to many a sailor including a good number of old salt Captains.
What's a pitch is that from American baseball or some foolish Brit so called sport with folks dressed for church and a fly swatter of a "bat".
All the best mates.
Richard SM 209
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-----Original Message-----
From: Ian & Judy Jenkins <ianjudyjenkins@...>
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 21:54:43
To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Subject: RE: [Amel] AIS


Hi Richard, One nautical mile is 2000 yards. One cable is a tenth of a nautical mile, 200 yards--or to put it into really simple terms , about nine cricket pitches..... Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Hamble

To: amelyachtowners@...
From: richard03801@...
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 16:10:33 +0000
Subject: Re: [Amel] AIS

We fully agree the only way to get a ships response is to call the by have your position course and speed in front of you. Say your intentions clearly and slowly. In many miles at sea we've found this works well. In fact if you listen in on the bridge to bridge chatter they do the same.

We use a stand alone AIS that works well and give us a stable display and a single antenna with a spliter. Add an Icom digital VHF with a full feature mike at the helm as well as chart plotter radar. Now that we have AIS we can use the radar pause feature to save battery power. We cycle the radar every 20 min. Unless we have weather or targets on screen.
Does anyone know how far a cable is????

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-----Original Message-----
From: "rossirossix4" <rossidesigngroup@...>
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 15:54:55
To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Subject: [Amel] AIS

I asked my daughter about MMSI calls to ships. She is a ships bridge officer--2nd officer--with extensive experience in the Strait of Malacca, Gibraltar and other crowded places. She says that they "never" get MMSI calls and that it would be "weird" to get one. (This, in my opinion doesn't mean it would be wrong to use it to "ring em up" in an urgent situation.

She did say that if you use the ships name it definitely gets their attention and they should respond to you. Also give your distance, your bearing from them (the reciprocal what you show for them), description of your boat and your intentions.

For those of us who need to replace our non-DSC fixed VHFs anyway, Standard Horizon has a relatively inexpensive ($315 street price) VHF--Matrix AIS GX2100 with a built in AIS receiver and screen. The available remote mic (maybe in your cockpit) also displays the AIS screen, which shows the normal AIS calculated data plus the name of the vessels, kind of handy at 3:00 am--see em, call em. http://www.standardhorizon.com/indexVS.cfm?cmd=DisplayProducts&ProdCatID=83&encProdID=F858763BB81027701141A0167DE2A031&DivisionID=3&isArchived=0

Standard Horizon sent me a picture of the remote mic displaying an AIS screen display--again, handy in the cockpit.

Class B transceiver also sounds good. They consume very little power (I covered this in a previous posting).

Bob
Brittany de la Mer








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Re: [Amel] Re: Amel 54 with a hardtop Bimini

richard03801@...
 

When you consider that there are lots of nice in harbor features of the 54 ports in the free board?always end up leaking at a point when most troublesome time. Then there is the amount of fresh water and power they require. Yes it's great in a berth with lots of power but give the cost of power in both the Caribb and Med not to mention water in the Islands. Oh, did I forget all those nice in harbor things, drop down raise up TV's, lift up bunks, and the list goes on, all need fixing from time to time. And then there is the voltage and availability of parts issues. No, I'll keep my good old SM thanks.
Let's go sail the seas. Richard and Joan on SM 209

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From: "Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe" <yahoogroups@...>
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 03:57:47
To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Subject: [Amel] Re: Amel 54 with a hardtop Bimini

Dave -- Funds are not the only reason he will not be buying a 54. While I like many of the new features of the 54, I will never own a boat with a centerline bed. I know....everyone is supposed to love having the bed in the middle of the room rather than having to climb over your partner; but I cannot tolerate a centerline berth. We have been in too many rolly anchorages. Having a lee board against my back in rolly anchorages and also in most sea conditions underway is just not good enough for me. I want my back firmly planted against the hull under those conditions. So, no matter how much Bill likes the new 54, unless he is ready to also shop for a new wife, he won't be buying one.

Judy
S/V BeBe
SM2 #387

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "Dave_Benjamin" <dave_benjamin@...> wrote:

Why fight the urge? Depending on what currency your funds are kept in a newer Amel might become somewhat more affordable. Jean and I were invited aboard a 54 in Cabo last year and were quite impressed. I think the factory did a marvelous job finding areas to improve on the well proven SM.

We will be sticking with our Maramu for some years but as fortunes change.....who knows?


--- In amelyachtowners@..., "Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe" <yahoogroups@> wrote:

OK, every morning I get up and repeat 3 times, "I will not buy a 54, I love my SM." And we both love our SM and try to keep it in new condition.

I just noticed a 54 for sale on yachtworld that has a custom built fiberglass bimini cover with 2 sliding hatches and lots of handrails. Apparently it can be raised about 6" for extra standing room and ventilation and lowered to seal the cockpit from water. It also has a custom vinyl enclosure to close the back side...really cool..."I will not buy a 54...I will not buy a 54..."

I hate to advertise for yachtworld, but you might want to look at this at http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/boatMergedDetails.jsp?boat_id=2157543&checked_boats=2157543&ybw=&units=Feet¤cy=USD&access=Public&listing_id=50289&url=

Best,

Bill
s/v BeBe, SM2, #387
Currently Malaysia
Re: [Amel] Re: Amel 54 with a hardtop Bimini

Jean Boucharlat
 

Judy,



Couldn't agree more and I've said so repeatedly to anyone willing to listen
at Amel.

If Bill disregards your advice, I'm standing by to pick up his boat and wife
as a package.



All the best,



Jean Boucharlat



From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Judy and Bill aboard
SV BeBe
Sent: vendredi 28 mai 2010 05:58
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel] Re: Amel 54 with a hardtop Bimini





Dave -- Funds are not the only reason he will not be buying a 54. While I
like many of the new features of the 54, I will never own a boat with a
centerline bed. I know....everyone is supposed to love having the bed in the
middle of the room rather than having to climb over your partner; but I
cannot tolerate a centerline berth. We have been in too many rolly
anchorages. Having a lee board against my back in rolly anchorages and also
in most sea conditions underway is just not good enough for me. I want my
back firmly planted against the hull under those conditions. So, no matter
how much Bill likes the new 54, unless he is ready to also shop for a new
wife, he won't be buying one.

Judy
S/V BeBe
SM2 #387

--- In amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , "Dave_Benjamin"
<dave_benjamin@...> wrote:

Why fight the urge? Depending on what currency your funds are kept in a
newer Amel might become somewhat more affordable. Jean and I were invited
aboard a 54 in Cabo last year and were quite impressed. I think the factory
did a marvelous job finding areas to improve on the well proven SM.

We will be sticking with our Maramu for some years but as fortunes
change.....who knows?


--- In amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , "Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe"
<yahoogroups@> wrote:

OK, every morning I get up and repeat 3 times, "I will not buy a 54, I
love my SM." And we both love our SM and try to keep it in new condition.

I just noticed a 54 for sale on yachtworld that has a custom built
fiberglass bimini cover with 2 sliding hatches and lots of handrails.
Apparently it can be raised about 6" for extra standing room and ventilation
and lowered to seal the cockpit from water. It also has a custom vinyl
enclosure to close the back side...really cool..."I will not buy a 54...I
will not buy a 54..."

I hate to advertise for yachtworld, but you might want to look at this
at
http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/boatMergedDetails.jsp?boat_id=2157543
<http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/boatMergedDetails.jsp?boat_id=215754
3&checked_boats=2157543&ybw=&units=Feet&currency=USD&access=Public&listing_i
d=50289&url=>
&checked_boats=2157543&ybw=&units=Feet&currency=USD&access=Public&listing_id
=50289&url=

Best,

Bill
s/v BeBe, SM2, #387
Currently Malaysia
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