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Re: [Amel] Amel yearly upkeep cost

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Thank you very much Lars, I really appreciate your help (and the good news). 
I really like the Santorin, but none available in the US now... 
I speak French (I am Swiss), but have been living in the US for 17 years... 
Thanks again, sincerely, Alexandre

--- On Tue, 11/16/10, Lars H. Knudsen <museum@...> wrote:


From: Lars H. Knudsen <museum@...>
Subject: SV: [Amel] Amel yearly upkeep cost
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Tuesday, November 16, 2010, 4:31 PM


 



I own a 1993 Santorin and besides replacing old electronics with new systems my regular upkeep costs are low.

There has been very few issues – only things like a leaking fuel line and seawater leaking from the water pump. But lying in Tunisia make repairs cheap and almost any part is readily available – if you know the right people and speak some French.

So my costs are about Euro 2.800 for the berth per year plus insurance which is another Euro 1.600 / year. Plus fuel and minor repairs now and then.

/lars, Denmark

Salvagny, Santorin #79

Fra: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] På vegne af Alexandre Uster von Baar
Sendt: 16. november 2010 22:17
Til: amelyachtowners@...
Emne: Re: [Amel] Amel yearly upkeep cost

Thank you for your reply Kent, so $60,000 on 2 years. Were you aware of the repair needed when you purchased her? Do you do the work yourself? Thanks for your time, Alexandre

--- On Tue, 11/16/10, Kent Robertson <karkauai@... <mailto:karkauai%40yahoo.com> > wrote:

From: Kent Robertson <karkauai@... <mailto:karkauai%40yahoo.com> >
Subject: Re: [Amel] Amel yearly upkeep cost
To: amelyachtowners@... <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, November 16, 2010, 3:02 PM

My SM is 11 yrs old now and after two years of trying to get her in ship-shape, I'm finding it's still costing me a lot more than I anticipated. I keep thinking that I'll have most of the major stuff done and then something else breaks down...water heater and bilge pump the latest two on the list. I can tell you that if you have time and skill enough to do most of the work yourself, it will cost you less than half of what it costs to have someone else to do the work. So far I've spent over $60,000 US upgrading, replacing, repairing, etc. I want to add davits and redo the interior upholstery which will add another $10K or so. After that I'm hoping it will be mostly maintenance and not so much major replacement/repair. Can't guess what my yearly costs might be but so far it's over twice what I expected at this point. But she's ready to go anywhere now, and it's all worth it...just may never get to retire fully, eh?
Steady as she goes.
Kent
S/V KRISTY
SM243

--- On Tue, 11/16/10, Alexandre Uster von Baar <uster@... <mailto:uster%40rocketmail.com> > wrote:

From: Alexandre Uster von Baar <uster@... <mailto:uster%40rocketmail.com> >
Subject: [Amel] Amel yearly upkeep cost
To: amelyachtowners@... <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, November 16, 2010, 2:10 PM

I am seriously interested in purchasing an Amel. The SM cost is above my current budget but I am not discarding it, I am considering Maramu, Santorin and even Mango. Would that be possible to get some feedback on the average yearly up keep/ maintenance (once the sailboat is in absolute ready to cruise condition). A French web site mentions 3500 € ($4,900) per year on an SM, this seems a bit low. I am not looking for insurance nor marina fees, just the maintenance/upkeep costs such as hoses, filters, bearings, bushings, seals, etc.

Thanks in advance. Sincerely, Alexandre



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Re: [Amel] Amel yearly upkeep cost

Lars H. Knudsen <museum@...>
 

I own a 1993 Santorin and besides replacing old electronics with new systems my regular upkeep costs are low.



There has been very few issues – only things like a leaking fuel line and seawater leaking from the water pump. But lying in Tunisia make repairs cheap and almost any part is readily available – if you know the right people and speak some French.



So my costs are about Euro 2.800 for the berth per year plus insurance which is another Euro 1.600 / year. Plus fuel and minor repairs now and then.



/lars, Denmark

Salvagny, Santorin #79



Fra: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] På vegne af Alexandre Uster von Baar
Sendt: 16. november 2010 22:17
Til: amelyachtowners@...
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Thank you for your reply Kent, so $60,000 on 2 years. Were you aware of the repair needed when you purchased her? Do you do the work yourself? Thanks for your time, Alexandre

--- On Tue, 11/16/10, Kent Robertson <karkauai@... <mailto:karkauai%40yahoo.com> > wrote:

From: Kent Robertson <karkauai@... <mailto:karkauai%40yahoo.com> >
Subject: Re: [Amel] Amel yearly upkeep cost
To: amelyachtowners@... <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, November 16, 2010, 3:02 PM



My SM is 11 yrs old now and after two years of trying to get her in ship-shape, I'm finding it's still costing me a lot more than I anticipated. I keep thinking that I'll have most of the major stuff done and then something else breaks down...water heater and bilge pump the latest two on the list. I can tell you that if you have time and skill enough to do most of the work yourself, it will cost you less than half of what it costs to have someone else to do the work. So far I've spent over $60,000 US upgrading, replacing, repairing, etc. I want to add davits and redo the interior upholstery which will add another $10K or so. After that I'm hoping it will be mostly maintenance and not so much major replacement/repair. Can't guess what my yearly costs might be but so far it's over twice what I expected at this point. But she's ready to go anywhere now, and it's all worth it...just may never get to retire fully, eh?
Steady as she goes.
Kent
S/V KRISTY
SM243

--- On Tue, 11/16/10, Alexandre Uster von Baar <uster@... <mailto:uster%40rocketmail.com> > wrote:

From: Alexandre Uster von Baar <uster@... <mailto:uster%40rocketmail.com> >
Subject: [Amel] Amel yearly upkeep cost
To: amelyachtowners@... <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, November 16, 2010, 2:10 PM



I am seriously interested in purchasing an Amel. The SM cost is above my current budget but I am not discarding it, I am considering Maramu, Santorin and even Mango. Would that be possible to get some feedback on the average yearly up keep/ maintenance (once the sailboat is in absolute ready to cruise condition). A French web site mentions 3500 € ($4,900) per year on an SM, this seems a bit low. I am not looking for insurance nor marina fees, just the maintenance/upkeep costs such as hoses, filters, bearings, bushings, seals, etc.

Thanks in advance. Sincerely, Alexandre

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Re: [Amel] Amel yearly upkeep cost

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Thank you for your reply Kent, so $60,000 on 2 years.  Were you aware of the repair needed when you purchased her?  Do you do the work yourself?  Thanks for your time, Alexandre

--- On Tue, 11/16/10, Kent Robertson <karkauai@...> wrote:


From: Kent Robertson <karkauai@...>
Subject: Re: [Amel] Amel yearly upkeep cost
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Tuesday, November 16, 2010, 3:02 PM


 



My SM is 11 yrs old now and after two years of trying to get her in ship-shape, I'm finding it's still costing me a lot more than I anticipated.  I keep thinking that I'll have most of the major stuff done and then something else breaks down...water heater and bilge pump the latest two on the list.  I can tell you that if you have time and skill enough to do most of the work yourself, it will cost you less than half of what it costs to have someone else to do the work.  So far I've spent over $60,000 US upgrading, replacing, repairing, etc.  I want to add davits and redo the interior upholstery which will add another $10K or so.  After that I'm hoping it will be mostly maintenance and not so much major replacement/repair.  Can't guess what my yearly costs might be but so far it's over twice what I expected at this point.   But she's ready to go anywhere now, and it's all worth it...just may never get to retire fully, eh?
Steady as she goes.
Kent
S/V KRISTY
SM243

--- On Tue, 11/16/10, Alexandre Uster von Baar <uster@...> wrote:

From: Alexandre Uster von Baar <uster@...>
Subject: [Amel] Amel yearly upkeep cost
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Tuesday, November 16, 2010, 2:10 PM

 

I am seriously interested in purchasing an Amel. The SM cost is above my current budget but I am not discarding it, I am considering Maramu, Santorin and even Mango. Would that be possible to get some feedback on the average yearly up keep/ maintenance (once the sailboat is in absolute ready to cruise condition). A French web site mentions 3500 € ($4,900) per year on an SM, this seems a bit low. I am not looking for insurance nor marina fees, just the maintenance/upkeep costs such as hoses, filters, bearings, bushings, seals, etc.

Thanks in advance. Sincerely, Alexandre

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Re: [Amel] Amel yearly upkeep cost

karkauai
 

My SM is 11 yrs old now and after two years of trying to get her in ship-shape, I'm finding it's still costing me a lot more than I anticipated.  I keep thinking that I'll have most of the major stuff done and then something else breaks down...water heater and bilge pump the latest two on the list.  I can tell you that if you have time and skill enough to do most of the work yourself, it will cost you less than half of what it costs to have someone else to do the work.  So far I've spent over $60,000 US upgrading, replacing, repairing, etc.  I want to add davits and redo the interior upholstery which will add another $10K or so.  After that I'm hoping it will be mostly maintenance and not so much major replacement/repair.  Can't guess what my yearly costs might be but so far it's over twice what I expected at this point.   But she's ready to go anywhere now, and it's all worth it...just may never get to retire fully, eh?
Steady as she goes.
Kent
S/V KRISTY
SM243

--- On Tue, 11/16/10, Alexandre Uster von Baar <uster@...> wrote:

From: Alexandre Uster von Baar <uster@...>
Subject: [Amel] Amel yearly upkeep cost
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Tuesday, November 16, 2010, 2:10 PM







 











I am seriously interested in purchasing an Amel. The SM cost is above my current budget but I am not discarding it, I am considering Maramu, Santorin and even Mango. Would that be possible to get some feedback on the average yearly up keep/ maintenance (once the sailboat is in absolute ready to cruise condition). A French web site mentions 3500 € ($4,900) per year on an SM, this seems a bit low. I am not looking for insurance nor marina fees, just the maintenance/upkeep costs such as hoses, filters, bearings, bushings, seals, etc.

Thanks in advance. Sincerely, Alexandre


Re: [Amel] Maramu stuffing box issue

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

You have a double nut on your stuffing box. If you tighten it you break lose the inner lock nut tighten the outer nut either with a special large jaw adj wrench from some place like Defender or West the tighten the lock nut. Even though you have a grease fitting to lube the shaft from time to time you have to replace the packing. It's an easy job done when hauled out or a very flat day with a good pump handy.
Good luck

Richard Piller sm 209 For Sale

----- Original Message -----
From: Dave_Benjamin
Date: Monday, November 15, 2010 9:43 pm
Subject: [Amel] Maramu stuffing box issue
To: amelyachtowners@...

The boat is in Mexico and I'm in the states doing some shopping.
Before I left I noted that our stuffing box is attached to the
log with 2 inch (51mm) hose. When I went to buy a new stuffing
box today I discovered they are set up for 2.5 inch hose not 2
inch. I am wondering if someone cut some threads inside the
existing stuffing box and screwed in a 2 inch diam tailpiece. If
that's the common scheme it would be easy enought to duplicate.
I'd like to know as much as possible before we haul the boat.

Our boat has a 1 3/8 inch shaft and it's been repowered with a
Yanmar so there is actually a lot of room behind the engine.

Regards,

Dave Benjamin
Maramu #29


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Amel yearly upkeep cost

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

I am seriously interested in purchasing an Amel. The SM cost is above my current budget but I am not discarding it, I am considering Maramu, Santorin and even Mango. Would that be possible to get some feedback on the average yearly up keep/ maintenance (once the sailboat is in absolute ready to cruise condition). A French web site mentions 3500 € ($4,900) per year on an SM, this seems a bit low. I am not looking for insurance nor marina fees, just the maintenance/upkeep costs such as hoses, filters, bearings, bushings, seals, etc.
Thanks in advance. Sincerely, Alexandre


Re: [Amel] Maramu stuffing box issue

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Thganks Eric, yes the same.
regards
Danny

--- On Wed, 17/11/10, kimberlite@... <kimberlite@...> wrote:


From: kimberlite@... <kimberlite@...>
Subject: Re: [Amel] Maramu stuffing box issue
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Wednesday, 17, November, 2010, 5:36 AM


 



hi,
i call it a sail drive--it is probably the same unit you have on your boat.
The engine is mounted facing aft and after the transmision ther is a gearbox that sends the power down a shaft to the aft of the keel and then another gearbox- a 6-10 inch shaft for the prop and line cutter.
Eric
Sm 376 kimberlite

----- Original Message -----
From: Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Date: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 3:13 am
Subject: Re: [Amel] Maramu stuffing box issue
To: amelyachtowners@...

Hi Eric, has your boat had the Amel drive replaced with a sail
drive or was it built with a sail drive in place?
Regards
Danny and Yvonne
Ocean Pearl SM299

Danny and Yvonne
www.getjealous.com/danneve

--- On Tue, 16/11/10, kimberlite@...
wrote:


From: kimberlite@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] Maramu stuffing box issue
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Tuesday, 16, November, 2010, 4:13 PM






we have a saildrive unit on our super maramu,
however if you are referring to a prop shaft stuffing box,
Spartan Marine makes the worlds finest stuffing box in all sizes
2 and 2 1/2 inches and many more. They are designed to be
adjusted with a hammer and screwdriver or their special wrench.
Look them up on the web.
Fair winds
eric sm 376 kimberlite

----- Original Message -----
From: Dave_Benjamin
Date: Monday, November 15, 2010 9:43 pm
Subject: [Amel] Maramu stuffing box issue
To: amelyachtowners@...

The boat is in Mexico and I'm in the states doing some
shopping.
Before I left I noted that our stuffing box is attached to the
log with 2 inch (51mm) hose. When I went to buy a new stuffing
box today I discovered they are set up for 2.5 inch hose not 2
inch. I am wondering if someone cut some threads inside the
existing stuffing box and screwed in a 2 inch diam tailpiece.
If
that's the common scheme it would be easy enought to
duplicate.
I'd like to know as much as possible before we haul the boat.

Our boat has a 1 3/8 inch shaft and it's been repowered with a
Yanmar so there is actually a lot of room behind the engine.

Regards,

Dave Benjamin
Maramu #29


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Suggestion on Posting Hygiene

Craig Briggs
 

When we respond to a posting, it would be really great if we could all delete the original messages. Just highlight everything below your reply and hit your "delete" key.

After a few replies these posts are simply getting too long to browse through - espcially for those of us who like to get them via the email digests that have the full text.

Cheers,
Craig Briggs on s/v Sangaris, Santorin #68


Re: [Amel] Maramu stuffing box issue

kimberlite@...
 

hi,
i call it a sail drive--it is probably the same unit you have on your boat.
The engine is mounted facing aft and after the transmision ther is a gearbox that sends the power down a shaft to the aft of the keel and then another gearbox- a 6-10 inch shaft for the prop and line cutter.
Eric
Sm 376 kimberlite

----- Original Message -----
From: Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Date: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 3:13 am
Subject: Re: [Amel] Maramu stuffing box issue
To: amelyachtowners@...

Hi Eric, has your boat had the Amel drive replaced with a sail
drive or was it built with a sail drive in place?
Regards
Danny and Yvonne
Ocean Pearl SM299

Danny and Yvonne
www.getjealous.com/danneve

--- On Tue, 16/11/10, kimberlite@...
wrote:


From: kimberlite@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] Maramu stuffing box issue
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Tuesday, 16, November, 2010, 4:13 PM






we have a saildrive unit on our super maramu,
however if you are referring to a prop shaft stuffing box,
Spartan Marine makes the worlds finest stuffing box in all sizes
2 and 2 1/2 inches and many more. They are designed to be
adjusted with a hammer and screwdriver or their special wrench.
Look them up on the web.
Fair winds
eric sm 376 kimberlite

----- Original Message -----
From: Dave_Benjamin
Date: Monday, November 15, 2010 9:43 pm
Subject: [Amel] Maramu stuffing box issue
To: amelyachtowners@...

The boat is in Mexico and I'm in the states doing some
shopping.
Before I left I noted that our stuffing box is attached to the
log with 2 inch (51mm) hose. When I went to buy a new stuffing
box today I discovered they are set up for 2.5 inch hose not 2
inch. I am wondering if someone cut some threads inside the
existing stuffing box and screwed in a 2 inch diam tailpiece.
If
that's the common scheme it would be easy enought to
duplicate.
I'd like to know as much as possible before we haul the boat.

Our boat has a 1 3/8 inch shaft and it's been repowered with a
Yanmar so there is actually a lot of room behind the engine.

Regards,

Dave Benjamin
Maramu #29














R: Re: [Amel] anchor pulley - Santorin

ornella.battaglini@libero.it <ornella.battaglini@...>
 

Thank you Mike,

that sounds like a not easy job, but I'll try.

Ornella

Santorin (ketch) 122 Earendil in Ancona (Italy)




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Da: yachtakwaaba@...
Data: 11/11/2010 15.38
A: <amelyachtowners@...>
Ogg: Re: [Amel] anchor pulley - Santorin






Ornella,
From memory, you have to drill out the welded stainless end cap and then slide out the pin. I'm out of the water at the moment so I'll check tomorrow.

Mike.
Santorin (sloop)
Akwaaba

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From: ornella.battaglini@... <ornella.battaglini@...>
Subject: [Amel] anchor pulley
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Wednesday, November 3, 2010, 5:07 PM



Hi all,

I need to replace the anchor's pulley on the bow of the Santorin: how can I

remove the pivot of the pulley?

Thanks for your answers

Ornella

Santorin N° 122 Earendil

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genoa and main sheets

Anne and John Hollamby <annejohnholl@...>
 

Eric,
We replaced our genoa and main sheets with spectra or dyneema (can't remember which) about five years ago using a smaller diameter because the originals, especially the main sheet, were on the too thick side for the self tailers and the replacements are much stronger. They still in perfect condition.

Best wishes, Anne and John, Bali Hai, SM 319


Re: [Amel] Genoa sheet super maramu

Malcolm Phillips <MPhillips@...>
 

Eric, I replaced my genoa sheet in Crete a year ago with a
new ( I think called dyneema ) sheet by Liros or Marlow. Very
soft off load and rock hard under load, this sheet handles
almost double the load of my polyester sheet supplied with the
boat by Amel. It is expensive but I strongly recommend it.

Malcolm. S/M 464 Bon Jovi



From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of
kimberlite@...
Sent: 16 November 2010 03:27
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel] Genoa sheet super maramu



We are here in St Martin, We need to replace our genoa sheet. Amel says
it is 16 mm 42 meters long and polyester.
What rope have you used to replace this sheet. There are many styles pf
polyester rope. marlow, glistein, new england ropes are available. The
existing sheet has a very small black core of an unknown material.
Fair winds.
eric sm 376 kimberlite





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Re: [Amel] Maramu stuffing box issue

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Eric, has your boat had the Amel drive replaced with a sail drive or was it built with a sail drive in place?
Regards
Danny and Yvonne
Ocean Pearl SM299

Danny and Yvonne
www.getjealous.com/danneve

--- On Tue, 16/11/10, kimberlite@... <kimberlite@...> wrote:


From: kimberlite@... <kimberlite@...>
Subject: Re: [Amel] Maramu stuffing box issue
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Tuesday, 16, November, 2010, 4:13 PM


 



we have a saildrive unit on our super maramu,
however if you are referring to a prop shaft stuffing box, Spartan Marine makes the worlds finest stuffing box in all sizes 2 and 2 1/2 inches and many more. They are designed to be adjusted with a hammer and screwdriver or their special wrench.
Look them up on the web.
Fair winds
eric sm 376 kimberlite

----- Original Message -----
From: Dave_Benjamin
Date: Monday, November 15, 2010 9:43 pm
Subject: [Amel] Maramu stuffing box issue
To: amelyachtowners@...

The boat is in Mexico and I'm in the states doing some shopping.
Before I left I noted that our stuffing box is attached to the
log with 2 inch (51mm) hose. When I went to buy a new stuffing
box today I discovered they are set up for 2.5 inch hose not 2
inch. I am wondering if someone cut some threads inside the
existing stuffing box and screwed in a 2 inch diam tailpiece. If
that's the common scheme it would be easy enought to duplicate.
I'd like to know as much as possible before we haul the boat.

Our boat has a 1 3/8 inch shaft and it's been repowered with a
Yanmar so there is actually a lot of room behind the engine.

Regards,

Dave Benjamin
Maramu #29


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[Amel] Re: Wind Generator on an AMEL 54

Dave_Benjamin
 

I think the U-drive may have something to do with the shaft generator being eliminated. Our Maramu has a simple straight shaft so fitting a shaft generator was simple enough. I'm not sure if it would have been as easy on a SM or other Amel with U-drive.
When we bought out Maramu it had been repowered and the shaft generator was gone. We have two 130w solar panels and I am adding a third which should allow us to live without having to run the engine to charge batteries.

--- In amelyachtowners@..., Chris Smither <yachtakwaaba@...> wrote:

Hi Danny & Yvonne,
   What happened to the marvellous Amel shaft alternator system......on my Santorin, it provided about 60% of our power needs crossing the Atlantic, (light winds - slow crossing), but on the Pacific crossing it supplied all the power to keep the batteries fully charged.  You lose about 1/2 Kt boat speed, but the security was worth it!
Where we are now, (in Phuket, geriatric day sailing), it is a terrific booster to bring the batteries up quickly after a night at anchor.
   If Amel have stopped fitting them, I'm sorry but I consider it a backwards step, which is unusual for Amel.
  Is there anyway one could be fitted, or does the new gearbox on the Amel's not allow the prop to rotate under sail?

Mike & Chris
Santorin, Akwaaba
Phuket

--- On Sun, 11/14/10, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:

From: Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...>
Subject: Re: [Amel] Re: Wind Generator on an AMEL 54
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Sunday, November 14, 2010, 7:00 PM







 









Hi Anthony, we have a Super Maramu. We intended to do extended ocean crossings and for us the issue was one of security. To rely solely on engine produced electricity seemed high risk to us. Sarter motors and alternators can fail, fuel can be contaminated. We wanted a power source that would at least keep our instruments and radio going in the event of a failure. We fitted a  Super Wind 350 generator to the top of the mizzen. It is a robust unit designed for use in remote locations with mechanically feathering blades for extreme winds. At deck and cabin level we never hear it, and certainly no vibration. If there is 20 knots of wind it's output is formidable, under 10 knots, very little. We also mounted two 150 watt solar panels with clamps on the port rail aft of the cockpit. This has proved very satisfactory. When needed we can slack the clamps and swing the panels vertical, eg entering marina berths.

In the Caribbean and the Pacific tropics with the freezer and fridges working hard the combination made a good contribution, probably 50% of daily consumption on average. Now we are in the temperate climate of NZ, mostly 100%..

 

Regards

Danny and Yvonne

Ocean Pearl SM 299

Mangonui NZ

www.getjealous.com/danneve



--- On Sun, 14/11/10, erickmejean <maramu@...> wrote:



From: erickmejean <maramu@...>

Subject: [Amel] Re: Wind Generator on an AMEL 54

To: amelyachtowners@...

Date: Sunday, 14, November, 2010, 7:11 PM



 



Hi Anthony

I did install an Aerogen 400 on top of my SM mizzen. It has bee there for ten years now and it works. However I wont do it again as I found it useless.. It brings very little power, once in a while when conditions are optimum, it is noisy and if one of the blade becomes unbalanced the vibrations travels all the way down the mizzen mast. You have to check regularly the silent blocks as sun, salt, heat and rubber don't get along well.

In my opinion the SM or the 54 are too much energy consumer boats to expect covering the energy consumption with solar panels or wind generator . You will never cover your needs fully. When conditions are good it will save you half an hour of power generator a day at most? It is not worth the trouble. Unless you cut down your electrical consumption drastically, no electronic, no autopilot no fridge, no music, no entertainment, nothing in fact (which is purposely not the right way to enjoy a SM or a 54) it does not bring enough benefit.

Erick



--- In amelyachtowners@..., xygakis <no_reply@> wrote:

I would like to install a six kilo Air Breeze wind generator on top of the mizzen mast.
Is there anyone who has already made such an installation and who could give me all details about the necessary support post of this installation?
With thanks in advance
Anthony


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Re: [Amel] Maramu stuffing box issue

Dave_Benjamin
 

Eric,

Thanks for the response. I checked the PSS website and they offer exactly what we'd need - http://www.shaftseal.com/en/products/37

I prefer the traditional stuffing box but the PSS works fine as long as the 5 year maintenance routine is followed. I had one in my Freedom 39 ketch and it worked flawlessly.

Cheers,
Dave

--- In amelyachtowners@..., Eric Lindholm <etlindholm@...> wrote:

You should be able to buy a stuffing box with anything from 2" to 2.5" hose. I
just repowered my boat with the yanmar, new shaft, prop. and I installed a PSS
dripless stuffing box. I can't remember what the hose size was offhand. I will
be at my boat tonite, I will try to get you my measurement. It wasn't 2.5 I know
that. I will have to call you or email you tomorrow as I will not be near my
computer. I would call you tonite, about the sails, but I am going fishing at
3:30 am and got to get some sleep. Eric




________________________________
From: Dave_Benjamin <dave_benjamin@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Mon, November 15, 2010 6:43:29 PM
Subject: [Amel] Maramu stuffing box issue

 
The boat is in Mexico and I'm in the states doing some shopping. Before I left I
noted that our stuffing box is attached to the log with 2 inch (51mm) hose. When
I went to buy a new stuffing box today I discovered they are set up for 2.5 inch
hose not 2 inch. I am wondering if someone cut some threads inside the existing
stuffing box and screwed in a 2 inch diam tailpiece. If that's the common scheme
it would be easy enought to duplicate. I'd like to know as much as possible
before we haul the boat.


Our boat has a 1 3/8 inch shaft and it's been repowered with a Yanmar so there
is actually a lot of room behind the engine.


Regards,

Dave Benjamin
Maramu #29






Re: [Amel] Maramu stuffing box issue

kimberlite@...
 

I used the spartan box on my Tartan 37 and used west marines dripless packing. I put about 20,000 miles on it and never a drip or a problem.
eric

----- Original Message -----
From: Dave_Benjamin
Date: Monday, November 15, 2010 10:25 pm
Subject: Re: [Amel] Maramu stuffing box issue
To: amelyachtowners@...

Eric,

Thanks for the tip. I looked at the Buck catalogue and one other
vendor. They were both only offered in 2.5 inch. I'll check out
the Spartan. They are a good company. I have seen some of their
hardware.

Cheers,
Dave

--- In amelyachtowners@..., kimberlite@... wrote:

we have a saildrive unit on our super maramu,
however if you are referring to a prop shaft stuffing box,
Spartan Marine makes the worlds finest stuffing box in all sizes
2 and 2 1/2 inches and many more. They are designed to be
adjusted with a hammer and screwdriver or their special wrench.
Look them up on the web.
Fair winds
eric sm 376 kimberlite

----- Original Message -----
From: Dave_Benjamin
Date: Monday, November 15, 2010 9:43 pm
Subject: [Amel] Maramu stuffing box issue
To: amelyachtowners@...

The boat is in Mexico and I'm in the states doing some
shopping.
Before I left I noted that our stuffing box is attached to
the
log with 2 inch (51mm) hose. When I went to buy a new
stuffing
box today I discovered they are set up for 2.5 inch hose not
2
inch. I am wondering if someone cut some threads inside the
existing stuffing box and screwed in a 2 inch diam
tailpiece. If
that's the common scheme it would be easy enought to
duplicate.
I'd like to know as much as possible before we haul the
boat.

Our boat has a 1 3/8 inch shaft and it's been repowered with
a
Yanmar so there is actually a lot of room behind the engine.

Regards,

Dave Benjamin
Maramu #29






Genoa sheet super maramu

kimberlite@...
 

We are here in St Martin, We need to replace our genoa sheet. Amel says it is 16 mm 42 meters long and polyester.
What rope have you used to replace this sheet. There are many styles pf polyester rope. marlow, glistein, new england ropes are available. The existing sheet has a very small black core of an unknown material.
Fair winds.
eric sm 376 kimberlite


Re: [Amel] Maramu stuffing box issue

Dave_Benjamin
 

Eric,

Thanks for the tip. I looked at the Buck catalogue and one other vendor. They were both only offered in 2.5 inch. I'll check out the Spartan. They are a good company. I have seen some of their hardware.

Cheers,
Dave

--- In amelyachtowners@..., kimberlite@... wrote:

we have a saildrive unit on our super maramu,
however if you are referring to a prop shaft stuffing box, Spartan Marine makes the worlds finest stuffing box in all sizes 2 and 2 1/2 inches and many more. They are designed to be adjusted with a hammer and screwdriver or their special wrench.
Look them up on the web.
Fair winds
eric sm 376 kimberlite

----- Original Message -----
From: Dave_Benjamin
Date: Monday, November 15, 2010 9:43 pm
Subject: [Amel] Maramu stuffing box issue
To: amelyachtowners@...

The boat is in Mexico and I'm in the states doing some shopping.
Before I left I noted that our stuffing box is attached to the
log with 2 inch (51mm) hose. When I went to buy a new stuffing
box today I discovered they are set up for 2.5 inch hose not 2
inch. I am wondering if someone cut some threads inside the
existing stuffing box and screwed in a 2 inch diam tailpiece. If
that's the common scheme it would be easy enought to duplicate.
I'd like to know as much as possible before we haul the boat.

Our boat has a 1 3/8 inch shaft and it's been repowered with a
Yanmar so there is actually a lot of room behind the engine.

Regards,

Dave Benjamin
Maramu #29



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Re: [Amel] Maramu stuffing box issue

kimberlite@...
 

we have a saildrive unit on our super maramu,
however if you are referring to a prop shaft stuffing box, Spartan Marine makes the worlds finest stuffing box in all sizes 2 and 2 1/2 inches and many more. They are designed to be adjusted with a hammer and screwdriver or their special wrench.
Look them up on the web.
Fair winds
eric sm 376 kimberlite

----- Original Message -----
From: Dave_Benjamin
Date: Monday, November 15, 2010 9:43 pm
Subject: [Amel] Maramu stuffing box issue
To: amelyachtowners@...

The boat is in Mexico and I'm in the states doing some shopping.
Before I left I noted that our stuffing box is attached to the
log with 2 inch (51mm) hose. When I went to buy a new stuffing
box today I discovered they are set up for 2.5 inch hose not 2
inch. I am wondering if someone cut some threads inside the
existing stuffing box and screwed in a 2 inch diam tailpiece. If
that's the common scheme it would be easy enought to duplicate.
I'd like to know as much as possible before we haul the boat.

Our boat has a 1 3/8 inch shaft and it's been repowered with a
Yanmar so there is actually a lot of room behind the engine.

Regards,

Dave Benjamin
Maramu #29



Re: [Amel] Maramu stuffing box issue

Eric Lindholm <etlindholm@...>
 

You should be able to buy a stuffing box with anything from 2" to 2.5" hose. I
just repowered my boat with the yanmar, new shaft, prop. and I installed a PSS
dripless stuffing box. I can't remember what the hose size was offhand. I will
be at my boat tonite, I will try to get you my measurement. It wasn't 2.5 I know
that. I will have to call you or email you tomorrow as I will not be near my
computer. I would call you tonite, about the sails, but I am going fishing at
3:30 am and got to get some sleep. Eric




________________________________
From: Dave_Benjamin <dave_benjamin@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Mon, November 15, 2010 6:43:29 PM
Subject: [Amel] Maramu stuffing box issue

 
The boat is in Mexico and I'm in the states doing some shopping. Before I left I
noted that our stuffing box is attached to the log with 2 inch (51mm) hose. When
I went to buy a new stuffing box today I discovered they are set up for 2.5 inch
hose not 2 inch. I am wondering if someone cut some threads inside the existing
stuffing box and screwed in a 2 inch diam tailpiece. If that's the common scheme
it would be easy enought to duplicate. I'd like to know as much as possible
before we haul the boat.


Our boat has a 1 3/8 inch shaft and it's been repowered with a Yanmar so there
is actually a lot of room behind the engine.


Regards,

Dave Benjamin
Maramu #29




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