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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Deck Grooves

kimberlite1212 <no_reply@...>
 

Hello Joel,
what uv inhibitor do you use on your boat?
thanks
eric


--- In amelyachtowners@..., "Joel F. Potter"
<jfpottercys@w...> wrote:
Hello Mr. Rossi,

The problem with the dark brown deck stripes is that they are made
of gel
coat. The darker the gel coat, the faster it oxidizes and fades
away. You
can preserve new gel coat with judicious applications of proper
ultra violet
inhibitors. It is nearly impossible to restore faded/missing dark
brown gel
coat. When you polish or clean it, you are removing it.

The fix is tedious and time consuming if you do it yourself or
rather
expensive ($1500) if you hire it out. In twenty five years of
preparing
used Amels for the resale market, the only real solution is to
paint these
stripes on with two part polyurethane paint after scrupulous
preparation of
the surface as directed by the instructions on the paint can.
READ THE
INSTRUCTIONS! It will save a lot of grief.

Some automotive paint supply stores (wholesale level) sell very
nice narrow
gauge paint rollers with a self contained paint reservoir. I have
used
these to good effect. Otherwise, mask and use artist camel hair
brushes.
The results will please you if you carefully prepare and mask the
surface
and if you READ THE INSTRUCTIONS.

Good luck.

Joel F. Potter SMM # 400



Re: Deck Grooves

minaxi53 <no_reply@...>
 

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "rossirossix4"
<equinoxsolstice@h...> wrote:
Does anyone have any good techniques for darkening the faded dark
grooves in the faux teak decks. I'm OK with the faded "teak"
boards, but want to darken the gooves which have faded and
disappeared in places.

Bob Rossi, Santorin "Hanalei"
Bob

I have SM6 which obviously is one of the first SM's made. The whole
boat is well maintained and looks good for her age. The decks however
are totally faded. My response? Leave it alone, the longer it ages
and fades the more realistic the "Faux" looks. I have had many people
ask why my SM has real teak and others have fake. That's how real it
looks when it gets really faded. Stick with it, it will look good
later and save you a lot of money/work. That's why Henri hates wood
on deck.
Regards
Bob Linley
SM6 "Minaxi"


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Deck Grooves

Joel F. Potter <jfpottercys@...>
 

Hello Mr. Rossi,

The problem with the dark brown deck stripes is that they are made of gel
coat. The darker the gel coat, the faster it oxidizes and fades away. You
can preserve new gel coat with judicious applications of proper ultra violet
inhibitors. It is nearly impossible to restore faded/missing dark brown gel
coat. When you polish or clean it, you are removing it.

The fix is tedious and time consuming if you do it yourself or rather
expensive ($1500) if you hire it out. In twenty five years of preparing
used Amels for the resale market, the only real solution is to paint these
stripes on with two part polyurethane paint after scrupulous preparation of
the surface as directed by the instructions on the paint can. READ THE
INSTRUCTIONS! It will save a lot of grief.

Some automotive paint supply stores (wholesale level) sell very nice narrow
gauge paint rollers with a self contained paint reservoir. I have used
these to good effect. Otherwise, mask and use artist camel hair brushes.
The results will please you if you carefully prepare and mask the surface
and if you READ THE INSTRUCTIONS.

Good luck.

Joel F. Potter SMM # 400


Re: Crash bar/Bose speakers

scentstone <scentstone@...>
 

Dear Eric,

Could you give answers (small) online in the way to be seen by other
members ?
Many thanks
Fred


--- In amelyachtowners@..., kimberlite1212
<no_reply@y...> wrote:
Vito,
i have both.
give me a call 631-423-2000.
eric
--- In amelyachtowners@..., asm283 <no_reply@y...>
wrote:
Hi

I purchased the crash bar to install on my SM #283. I am not
exactly
sure of the best location to install it. Some of you have this
feature on your boats. It would be great if you can desribe to me
the
location and installation done by Amel. Better yet post a picture.

On another subject, I want to install the Bose speaker system on
my
boat. Does anyone know if I need to install an amplifier or will
the
standard radio work by itself.

Thank You

Vito Ciaravino

ASM 283

Wanderer


Deck Grooves

rossirossix4 <equinoxsolstice@...>
 

Does anyone have any good techniques for darkening the faded dark
grooves in the faux teak decks. I'm OK with the faded "teak"
boards, but want to darken the gooves which have faded and
disappeared in places.

Bob Rossi, Santorin "Hanalei"


Re: Crash bar/Bose speakers

kimberlite1212 <no_reply@...>
 

Vito,
i have both.
give me a call 631-423-2000.
eric
--- In amelyachtowners@..., asm283 <no_reply@y...> wrote:
Hi

I purchased the crash bar to install on my SM #283. I am not
exactly
sure of the best location to install it. Some of you have this
feature on your boats. It would be great if you can desribe to me
the
location and installation done by Amel. Better yet post a picture.

On another subject, I want to install the Bose speaker system on
my
boat. Does anyone know if I need to install an amplifier or will
the
standard radio work by itself.

Thank You

Vito Ciaravino

ASM 283

Wanderer


Crash bar/Bose speakers

asm283 <no_reply@...>
 

Hi

I purchased the crash bar to install on my SM #283. I am not exactly
sure of the best location to install it. Some of you have this
feature on your boats. It would be great if you can desribe to me the
location and installation done by Amel. Better yet post a picture.

On another subject, I want to install the Bose speaker system on my
boat. Does anyone know if I need to install an amplifier or will the
standard radio work by itself.

Thank You

Vito Ciaravino

ASM 283

Wanderer


Raymarine and laptops

edmund_steele
 

Paul,
I upgraded my boat SM331 to the Raymarine electronics. The
chartplotter / radar display uses CMAP NT (or NT+) cartridges. In
order to make my laptop software compatible, so I could plan
routes "offline" so to speak, I bought the Raytech Navigator program
from Raymarine, plus a USB port reader for the cartridges. You can
also buy an NMEA to SEATALK converter box so that you can hook your
laptop into your nav system. The documentation for the Raytech
navigator program is amazingly poor but the interface is fairly
intuitive and the on-line help is OK. I bought the software and
cartridge reader from www.landfallnav.com.
Ed Steele
DoodleBug #SM331


RayMarine and MaxSea software

Paul and Helen Camp <sv_red_red_wine@...>
 

I will be taking delivery of hull 418 late next month. I have the
new Raymarine electrontics package and MaxSea software on my
laptop. Any suggestions as to which charts...cartridge or CD.. is
there a chartridge reader available which would allow me to download
off the computer to the plotter?? Don't want to duplicate the
charts and $$$ Paul Camp Lady "H"


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Drogues, Parachutes and Spare Sails

Shann, Mark V <shannmv@...>
 

Ed, no info on drogues or parachutes, sorry. I do carry 150 m of leaded warp to trail, but as I am now sailing in coastal waters of Red Sea - Egypt, not likely to deploy.

In terms of spare sails: I have a 1984 Maramu with: -

Normal cruising Main, Mizzen and Genoa.

To this is added a small jib flying off the inner forestay (with permanent roller reefing). This to be used in combination with second reef points fitted in the Mizzen, so that I can sail off a lee shore even in storm conditions. Both sails permanently deployed and ready to go.

Down below I also carry a No 3 Genoa and a Storm Genoa (from Amel).

Hope useful, Mark (Synnefoula - Maramu)

-----Original Message-----
From: Edmund Steele [mailto:edmundsteele@...]
Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 7:43 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Drogues, Parachutes and Spare Sails


Does anyone have any experience with or comments regarding the use of drogues and parachutes for severe conditions? Several authors have stated their preference for drogues but the Pardeys in their book "Storm Tactics" seem to prefer a parachute off the bow. Hopefully none of us will ever need either but what do Amel users carry?



My second question regards "spare sails". I do have an ATF storm jib for severe conditions but do Amel users carry any spare sails (Genoa, Main or Mizzen) on long passages or just rely on Amel to send a replacement of a non-repairable sail at the next port of call?



Ed Steele

"DoodleBug" #SM331


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Drogues, parachutes and spare sails?

edmund_steele
 

Does anyone have any experience with or comments regarding the use of
drogues and parachutes for severe conditions? Several authors have
stated their preference for drogues but the Pardeys in their
book "Storm Tactics" seem to prefer a parachute off the bow.
Hopefully none of us will ever need either but what do Amel users
carry?



My second question regards "spare sails". I do have an ATF
storm jib
for severe conditions but do Amel users carry any spare sails (Genoa,
Main or Mizzen) on long passages or just rely on Amel to send a
replacement of a non-repairable sail at the next port of call?



Ed Steele

"DoodleBug" #SM331


(No subject)

Roy A. Duddy, Esq. <rduddy.duddylawoffices@...>
 

I purchased an Amel Sharki hull #123 last year. It has a Perkins 108 diesel
installed. The starboard upper alternator has worn out. It apparently had
been rebuilt previously and needs to be replaced. What type/manufacturer
would you suggest to replace it? I don't have any specifications and the
identification plates have been painted. Thank you for your assistance.


Roy Duddy

Duddy Law Offices
175 Route 101
Bedford, NH 03110
603-472-8500
603-472-7333 Fax
rduddy.duddylawoffices@...


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Insurance

Daniel R. Scoggin
 

Hi Bryon, wish I could help, you are ahead of us in the process. We are not
taking delivery until Nov. and will be making our policy effective on the
disposal date early in Oct. We were just happy to find coverage for the two
of us at a reasonable price.
If I learn more I will be sure and share it, Dan

-----Original Message-----
From: sailslady@... [mailto:sailslady@...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 9:05 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Insurance


Hi DAn:

Boy your email to the Amel group is timely for me. I am in the midst of
renewing my policy that expires 9/24.

I am negotiating with Al Golden and International Marine Insurance Services.
What can you tell me about their service as regards getting binders quickly
after you have sent in your deposit? How long before you got your typed
policy after you sent in your deposit?

Anything else you care to share might be helpful.

Thanks

Byron Henderson
SAILSLADY Hull #340


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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Insurance

sailslady@...
 

Hi DAn:

Boy your email to the Amel group is timely for me. I am in the midst of renewing my policy that expires 9/24.

I am negotiating with Al Golden and International Marine Insurance Services. What can you tell me about their service as regards getting binders quickly after you have sent in your deposit? How long before you got your typed policy after you sent in your deposit?

Anything else you care to share might be helpful.

Thanks

Byron Henderson
SAILSLADY Hull #340


Hydraulic Leak in SM 2000 Alma Libre

Dimitris <dkra@...>
 

Dear All,
I faced a problem with the SM 2000 Alma Libre which I want to
share with you just in case you have the same problem in the future.
We were motor sailing with 8 Knots and suddenly the boat started to
slow down and the motor started to increase rpm. Immediately I
reduced the throttle and opened the engine room which was messed
with red colour Automatic Transmission Fluid (ATF).
The problem started from a leak between the hydraulic gear box and
the valve of the shaft break. I was able to locate the leak and
stop it but I could not use the motor as the quantity of ATF I had
with me was not sufficient and I was afraid that by using the motor
without enough ATF I could damage the hydraulic gear box . In the
mean time I spoke with the Technical department in Amel and they
advised me to unscrew the large screw in the back of the shaft break
cylinder in order to disable the break as it needs a lot of
hydraulic pressure to be disengaged when you start the engine and I
continued by sails ( 9 hours) until the next port to find and fill
the gear box ATF. So carry with you at least 3 Litters of ATF it
may be necessary in case of a leak.


Insurance

danscoggin <danscoggin@...>
 

I want to thank everyone who responded to my request for help. My
research discovered that Lloyds companies are expensive and more
importantly had crew requirements that were problimatic for the
cruising couple. The company in La Rochelle cannot insure U. S.
flagged vessels due to our terrorism laws. Finally I found a company
that will insure a crusing couple (crew of two) at a resonable price.
Contact info: International Marine Insurance Services
Phone 800 541-4647--410 643-8330
FAX 410 643-8331
E-Mail "mail@..."
I spoke with Al Golden. The underwriter is Markel American Insurance,
a company that has had a good deal of success developing niche
markets such as this one.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] standing rigging

amelforme
 

HI David,

This is a perfect example of the "not invented here syndrome". If the
critic didn't invent it, it can't possibly be of any good. With all of
Amel's unique features, I see this a lot. Your surveyor and rigger are
wrong, and perhaps shortsighted.

Ten year old standing rigging that has spent most of it's life in the
tropics is ripe for replacement. Use NEW everything including pins,
turnbuckles, cotter pins..everything. Have a piece of the old rigging
tested to destruction. The results may shock you. Use Norseman or Staloc
end fittings.l

The Amel pole system is delightful, safe, and easy to employ during trade
wind sailing. The pole supports should be removed annually during your
comprehensive annual rigging inspection (you do inspect every inch of your
rig at least once a year, right?) and then re-installed carefully. Don't
over tighten them and they won't cause a problem. Folks who have trouble
with these pole supports usually don't remove them for inspection and just
keep tightening them, eventually crushing the 1 x 19 stainless wire.

My somewhat arrogant response to those who tell me a well proven Amel
concept "just won't work" (not invented here) is to tell them thanks but no
thanks in regard to their future services. There are over 1000 Amel boats
sailing today with the Amel pole system. 'Nuff said

I hope this is helpful

Joel F. Potter, 53' Super Maramu Millennium #400

CC: Olivier Beaute

-----Original Message-----
From: davidlambertsen [mailto:no_reply@...]
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 6:10 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] standing rigging


Dear Amel Group,

I am considering replacing the standing rigging on my 1989 Maramu.
My surveyor and rigger have advised me that the stainless steel brace
for the genoa pole causes damage to the shrouds for the main mast.
They say that the stainless steel brace should be eliminated and the
Amel genoa pole should be replaced with a conventional whisker pole.
This would prevent the crevice corrosion and bending of the shrouds.
While it makes sense to keep the shrouds free of attachments, the
Amel genoa pole is an excellent device and I like it.

Have any of you experienced problems with this brace and the standing
rigging. Deterioration of the shrouds? Bending of the shrouds?
Failure? Has the stainless steel brace been improved to prevent
problems? Have you eliminated this pole? How do you protect the
shrouds?

I would appreciate the thoughts of Amel owners, Chantiers Amel, and
Joel Potter. Thank you.

David Lambertsen, s/v Have Fun! Maramu 258


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standing rigging

davidlambertsen <no_reply@...>
 

Dear Amel Group,

I am considering replacing the standing rigging on my 1989 Maramu.
My surveyor and rigger have advised me that the stainless steel brace
for the genoa pole causes damage to the shrouds for the main mast.
They say that the stainless steel brace should be eliminated and the
Amel genoa pole should be replaced with a conventional whisker pole.
This would prevent the crevice corrosion and bending of the shrouds.
While it makes sense to keep the shrouds free of attachments, the
Amel genoa pole is an excellent device and I like it.

Have any of you experienced problems with this brace and the standing
rigging. Deterioration of the shrouds? Bending of the shrouds?
Failure? Has the stainless steel brace been improved to prevent
problems? Have you eliminated this pole? How do you protect the
shrouds?

I would appreciate the thoughts of Amel owners, Chantiers Amel, and
Joel Potter. Thank you.

David Lambertsen, s/v Have Fun! Maramu 258


SeaTrial/Survey

rossirossix4 <equinoxsolstice@...>
 

I am in the process of buying a 1993 Amel Santorin and will have it
surveyed and seatrialed next week. Because it is over 10 years old
I will probably also have a rigging survey conducted. Does anyone
have any advice regarding any special systems or issues to check
during this process? It has a Perkins Prima M-50 engine with 1700
hours. Thanks.

Bob


Re: [Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Insurance]

Jerry and Catherine Trimm <pfm53@...>
 

We recently brought our Amel to Antigua from the Med and had to find another
carrier, and found Offshore Risk Management to be the most cost effective.
Haven't had a claim, so I can't say how they will be in the long run, but
their rates are not too bad, and they cover us throughout the Caribbean and
the US.

Jerry Trimm

"John Martin" <jjmartin24@...> wrote:

I recently contacted Allain de Lassee and they indicated they do not insure
yachts flagged in the US.
John Martin


----- Original Message -----
From: Philippe Guyot
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Insurance


Jim,
Try Allain de Lassee Assurances Martimes La Rochelle
assmardelassee@... Tel +33 5 46 45 46 45. They provide worlwide
cover
without any crew restriction.
Philippe
Baligand
----- Original Message -----
From: "jjwiggin02" <no_reply@...>
To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 7:18 PM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Insurance


> --- In amelyachtowners@..., "danscoggin" <danscoggin@y...>
> wrote:
> > Hi, I am taking delivery of hull #430 Nov. 17th. I am in the process
> > of shopping for insurance. The Lauderdale broker Joel suggested says
> > that his carriers require three or more crew for offshore passages.
> > Does anyone know a good carrier that insures couples making offshore
> > passages?
> >
> > Thanks, Dan
>
> You might want to try Offshore Risk Management at 305-743-7711 or
> 800-773-0105.
> I have heard of problems with Bluewater, but am not sure of their
> present status. They did have an "affiliation" with SSCA which they
> no longer have.
>
> Jim Wiggin
>
>
>
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