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Re: [Amel] Furling and Outhaul gearbox info

Barbara Nairne
 

Thank you so very much fofr this.
Regards
Barb

--- On Tue, 5/4/11, Kent Robertson <karkauai@...> wrote:


From: Kent Robertson <karkauai@...>
Subject: Re: [Amel] Furling and Outhaul gearbox info
To: amelyachtowners@...
Received: Tuesday, 5 April, 2011, 10:42 AM


 



Hi, Barb, Use this:

 http://www.leroy-somer.com/documentation_pdf/notices_pdf/1621a_MEVA_en.pdf
 
Works for me.
Kent
SM 243 KRISTY

--- On Mon, 4/4/11, Barb <surfskis2002@...> wrote:

From: Barb <surfskis2002@...>
Subject: [Amel] Furling and Outhaul gearbox info
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Monday, April 4, 2011, 6:12 PM

 

I found the following msg 7416 - but unfortunately the link is broken is anyone else able to open this as it probably contains the information that will really help

"The following is the installation and maintenance manual for the
furling/outhaul gearbox on our SM2000. It contains disassembly and
parts ordering information.

http://www.leroy-
somer.com/documentation_pdf/notices_pdf/1621a_MEVA_en.pdf
Thanks so much.
Barb

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Re: [Amel] Re: Draining of water from chain locker

Ric <ric@...>
 

Boat in tortola, me annapolis

Ric Gottschalk
Bali Hai SN24

On Apr 5, 2011, at 4:45 PM, karkauai@... wrote:

Ugh, guess I can consider myself lucky. Where are you these days, Ric?
Kent
SM243
KRISTY
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Re: [Amel] Re: Draining of water from chain locker

karkauai
 

Ugh, guess I can consider myself lucky. Where are you these days, Ric?
Kent
SM243
KRISTY
Sent from my BlackBerry Smartphone provided by Alltel


Re: [Amel] Re: Draining of water from chain locker

Ric <ric@...>
 

On my SN24 1990 santorin there is a valve for the anchor chain locker
drain in bow thruster locker. This drain is easily plugged with mud,
plus a secondary point (valve) where the shower drain connects at a
tee then to the bilge. There wasnt a strainer to remove hair, thereby
causing the anchor locker to fill. Took many wet bunks, tons of water
under port salon settee. To get it sorted.

Ric Gottschalk
Bali Hai SN24

On Apr 5, 2011, at 10:01 AM, "sv Sangaris" <sangaris@...> wrote:

Belit,
I also have a '92 Santorin.

The chain locker drain hose is on the port side and runs to the
forward side of the Shower drain pan in the forward head. It has no
valve.

Water runs from the chain locker, into the shower pan, then out the
shower pan aft to the grey water sump. There is a valve under the
dinette seat that you would close in an emergency were the forward
end of the boat to become flooded and you were closing it off with
the water tight door.

If yours is not draining well, that is, if water is accumulating in
the chain locker, you can easily back-flush with a water hose from
the shower pan. Do that several times, letting any debris run back
into the shower pan. (And while you're at it, you can also flush out
the hose that goes aft into the grey water sump.)

Btw, my forward deck locker floor also rotted out (port side). After
I fixed it I made an open slatted louver that I use in place of the
solid one into the chain locker (on the starboard side of the
forward bulkhead). This allows fresh air into the chain locker to
prevent future rotting. When we make passages I put the solid one
back in place to keep the forward bulkhead water-tight. (Well,
except for the drain hose that runs into the shower pan - your bilge
pump would come on and alert you to the fact that you were taking
water into the chain locker or the deck lockers.)

Craig Briggs SN#68 "Sangaris" in Greece

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "belitbh" <belitbh@...> wrote:

Thanks Kent and Jim,

Forgot to mention that actually have reached the locker after
repairing the floor of the right forward locker as the wood was
exposed under the epoxy...(was humid and the spare anchor was
sitting there directly on the floor and sharp steel + heavy whether
x salty water + epoxy cover = cracks and rot apparently), however,
did not understand fully, assuming the valve is in the same place
(my is Santorin) when open the valve it goes directly to the sea
unlike when it closed than goes to the bilge?
if not so, where the water supposed to go when the valve is closed?

Belit

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Re: [Amel] Amel contact

Stefano Biffi
 

No non mi é arrivata,puoi riprovare? Grazie molte

Il giorno 05/apr/2011, alle ore 17:16, Attilio Siviero <attilio.siviero@...> ha scritto:

hai ricevuto la mia mail per il download da filemail.com? Perché non sono sicuro
che sia partita. Fammi sapere, conteneva il link per il d/l di TUTTI i manuali

Attilio & Maria Siviero - Amel Santorin #84 "Sisila"
ViaTonzig 6, I-35129 Padova, PD – Italy; T+39 049 807 0119 M+39 348 23 30 185
M+39 34757 49 707
Please refrain from printing thisemail

________________________________
Da: Stefano Biffi <cptbiffi@...>
A: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Inviato: Lun 4 aprile 2011, 03:33:25
Oggetto: [Amel] Amel contact

Hi everibody yesterday night I bought a 97 super maramu,my dream since long
time. Any one has a contact email to request the Owners Manual in italiano to La
Rochelle? I'm with ipad AND Amel www is flash...... Unable to read. Tanks
stefano

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Re: [Amel] Amel contact

Attilio Siviero <attilio.siviero@...>
 

hai ricevuto la mia mail per il download da filemail.com? Perché non sono sicuro
che sia partita. Fammi sapere, conteneva il link per il d/l di TUTTI i manuali

Attilio & Maria Siviero - Amel Santorin #84 "Sisila"
ViaTonzig 6, I-35129 Padova, PD – Italy; T+39 049 807 0119 M+39 348 23 30 185
M+39 34757 49 707
Please refrain from printing thisemail




________________________________
Da: Stefano Biffi <cptbiffi@...>
A: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Inviato: Lun 4 aprile 2011, 03:33:25
Oggetto: [Amel] Amel contact


Hi everibody yesterday night I bought a 97 super maramu,my dream since long
time. Any one has a contact email to request the Owners Manual in italiano to La
Rochelle? I'm with ipad AND Amel www is flash...... Unable to read. Tanks
stefano


Re: [Amel] Need dimension of Santorin Mizzen Outhaul Sheave

Attilio Siviero <attilio.siviero@...>
 

Craig,
sorry, still in Mongolia till mid April. If you delay, I'll be there around
20April.

Attilio & Maria Siviero - Amel Santorin #84 "Sisila"
ViaTonzig 6, I-35129 Padova, PD – Italy; T+39 049 807 0119 M+39 348 23 30 185
M+39 34757 49 707
Please refrain from printing thisemail




________________________________
Da: sv Sangaris <sangaris@...>
A: amelyachtowners@...
Inviato: Mar 5 aprile 2011, 22:24:15
Oggetto: [Amel] Need dimension of Santorin Mizzen Outhaul Sheave


We're about to head back to the boat in Greece and we'd really appreciate it if
anyone on a Santorin would be so kind as to check a dimension for us so we can
buy a sheave in the US? (sheave=pulley=block)

What I need is the size of the sheave that is inside the forward end of the
mizzen boom, over which the mizzen outhaul line runs. (I need outside diameter,
width and hole/shaft size.)

This is the pulley the outhaul line goes over as it exits the boom just before
it goes down to the base of the mizzen mast.

My old one was stuck on the shaft and developed a flat spot (a newly discovered
place to be sure to lubricate in the future!)

Many thanks,
Craig & Katherine Briggs
SN#68 "Sangaris" in Messolonghi, GR




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Re: [Amel] Draining of water from chain locker

karkauai
 

My locker was still in good shape in spite of the water that sat ther for two years. Will have to look at it regularly now to ensure no damage to F/G floor. I'll definitely do John's(MoonDog) suggestion about lenghthening the line at the bitter end.
Has anyone come up with an innovative way to keep sea water from entering thru the hole in the deck where the chain goes into the locker? The rubber flap on Kristy has disappeared, but never seemed to help much anyway.
Thanks,
Kent
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Re: [Amel] Draining of water from chain locker

karkauai
 

Different drains on the Santorin and SM,Belit. But on Santorin it sounds like it would collect in the foreward shower drain. In SM it stays in the chain locker if the valve is closed. No drain to the outside of the boat.
Kent
Sent from my BlackBerry Smartphone provided by Alltel


Need dimension of Santorin Mizzen Outhaul Sheave

Craig Briggs
 

We're about to head back to the boat in Greece and we'd really appreciate it if anyone on a Santorin would be so kind as to check a dimension for us so we can buy a sheave in the US? (sheave=pulley=block)

What I need is the size of the sheave that is inside the forward end of the mizzen boom, over which the mizzen outhaul line runs. (I need outside diameter, width and hole/shaft size.)

This is the pulley the outhaul line goes over as it exits the boom just before it goes down to the base of the mizzen mast.

My old one was stuck on the shaft and developed a flat spot (a newly discovered place to be sure to lubricate in the future!)

Many thanks,
Craig & Katherine Briggs
SN#68 "Sangaris" in Messolonghi, GR


Re: Draining of water from chain locker

Craig Briggs
 

Belit,
I also have a '92 Santorin.

The chain locker drain hose is on the port side and runs to the forward side of the Shower drain pan in the forward head. It has no valve.

Water runs from the chain locker, into the shower pan, then out the shower pan aft to the grey water sump. There is a valve under the dinette seat that you would close in an emergency were the forward end of the boat to become flooded and you were closing it off with the water tight door.

If yours is not draining well, that is, if water is accumulating in the chain locker, you can easily back-flush with a water hose from the shower pan. Do that several times, letting any debris run back into the shower pan. (And while you're at it, you can also flush out the hose that goes aft into the grey water sump.)

Btw, my forward deck locker floor also rotted out (port side). After I fixed it I made an open slatted louver that I use in place of the solid one into the chain locker (on the starboard side of the forward bulkhead). This allows fresh air into the chain locker to prevent future rotting. When we make passages I put the solid one back in place to keep the forward bulkhead water-tight. (Well, except for the drain hose that runs into the shower pan - your bilge pump would come on and alert you to the fact that you were taking water into the chain locker or the deck lockers.)

Craig Briggs SN#68 "Sangaris" in Greece

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "belitbh" <belitbh@...> wrote:

Thanks Kent and Jim,

Forgot to mention that actually have reached the locker after repairing the floor of the right forward locker as the wood was exposed under the epoxy...(was humid and the spare anchor was sitting there directly on the floor and sharp steel + heavy whether x salty water + epoxy cover = cracks and rot apparently), however, did not understand fully, assuming the valve is in the same place (my is Santorin) when open the valve it goes directly to the sea unlike when it closed than goes to the bilge?
if not so, where the water supposed to go when the valve is closed?

Belit


Re: [Amel] Amel Maramu # 69 year 1980

Peter Blokpoel
 

--- In amelyachtowners@..., Richard03801 <richard03801@...> wrote:

Hi you will want to look for blisters on the bottom and leaks in the hatch screws. Age and condition of engine and trans.
Good luck and welcome to a new member.

Regards
Richard Piller

Yacht Brokerage Service above and beyond the expected"

Walczak Yacht Brokerage Service LLC
2 Compromise St
Annapolis, MD 21401

Cell 603 767 5330
Office
Fax

www.Walczakyacht.com

On Apr 5, 2011, at 6:21, "Peter Blokpoel" <peterblokpoel@...> wrote:

Hello all,

I am viewing a Maramu with hull 69 next week. She looks awesome in the advert. Planning to go on with the purchase if visit is satisfactory. Is there anyone in this group who knows anything (or part of) about the history of this yacht? Any info is welcome as I really am very enthousiastic about sailing an Amel around the world.

Thanks.


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Thanks Richard, I will take a good look. Will keep the group posted and looking forward to exchange info.

Regards.....Peter


Anchor chain locker

john martin <symoondog@...>
 

The next time you reverse the anchor chain, make a longer tie down line on the yacht's end of the chain. Install small eyehook inside the anchor chain locker, up high on the inboard bulkhead and near the access door to the bow cabin. Tie a small diameter line to the end of the shackle on the anchor chain and tie the other end to the eyehook. The next time you have to reverse the chain, all you have to do is grab the small line, pull the shackle inside the cabin where you can easily unscrew it without having to crawl inside the locker. Set this up with a very small person and then you never have to go inside the locker again.

John "Moon Dog" SM 248


Re: [Amel] Amel Maramu # 69 year 1980

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

Hi you will want to look for blisters on the bottom and leaks in the hatch screws. Age and condition of engine and trans.
Good luck and welcome to a new member.

Regards
Richard Piller

Yacht Brokerage Service above and beyond the expected"

Walczak Yacht Brokerage Service LLC
2 Compromise St
Annapolis, MD 21401

Cell 603 767 5330
Office
Fax

www.Walczakyacht.com

On Apr 5, 2011, at 6:21, "Peter Blokpoel" <peterblokpoel@...> wrote:

Hello all,

I am viewing a Maramu with hull 69 next week. She looks awesome in the advert. Planning to go on with the purchase if visit is satisfactory. Is there anyone in this group who knows anything (or part of) about the history of this yacht? Any info is welcome as I really am very enthousiastic about sailing an Amel around the world.

Thanks.


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Re: triatic

luvkante
 

On my Amel 54 it is used as antenna for NAVTEX.


Amel Maramu # 69 year 1980

Peter Blokpoel
 

Hello all,

I am viewing a Maramu with hull 69 next week. She looks awesome in the advert. Planning to go on with the purchase if visit is satisfactory. Is there anyone in this group who knows anything (or part of) about the history of this yacht? Any info is welcome as I really am very enthousiastic about sailing an Amel around the world.

Thanks.


Re: [Amel] Draining of water from chain locker

belitbh <belitbh@...>
 

Thanks Kent and Jim,

Forgot to mention that actually have reached the locker after repairing the floor of the right forward locker as the wood was exposed under the epoxy...(was humid and the spare anchor was sitting there directly on the floor and sharp steel + heavy whether x salty water + epoxy cover = cracks and rot apparently), however, did not understand fully, assuming the valve is in the same place (my is Santorin) when open the valve it goes directly to the sea unlike when it closed than goes to the bilge?
if not so, where the water supposed to go when the valve is closed?

Belit

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "Jim Dernehl" <jim.dernehl@...> wrote:

Pao-San #88

Kent,
Very interesting input regarding the chain locker----I had exactly the same problem---forward locker full of water. I sailed from Norfolk Virginia to Panama without realizing the locker was full of water. Once I turned/opened the valve it all drained out and then I dealt with the mess---some of the wood was damaged and I removed it. I cut out the flooring---but left about 1-2 inches of the fiberglass flooring edge. I used this edge as a support for a new teak floor---similar in design to the shower floor in the Amel heads. It allows everything to breath/air out and dry. The strong wood design supports all my anchors and road. Any water drains out plus I can remove the floor by lifting it out and easily clean the chain locker. Like the best things in life---it is simple and it works!!!
Best Jim Dernehl


-----Original Message-----
From: amelyachtowners@... on behalf of Kent Robertson
Sent: Mon 4/4/2011 7:29 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] Draining of water from chain locker

Hi, Belit,
I own SM 243, and cleaned my chain locker out last Fall.  I thought the water drained outside the boat, but discovered that it actually drains through a hole in the bottom of the locker out through the grey water system into the bilge.  There is a valve under the cushion in the middle of the vee berth near the forward air conditioner that was closed until I discovered it.  The chain locker was full of water and salt.  I took all the chain out onto the dock, reversed it, and flushed the chain locker clean before I brought the chain back into the locker.  It is hard to get to (I had to get my girlfriend, Dawn, to undo the shackle on the end of the chain because I couldn't get but one arm into the locker).  The entry via the watertight door could have been a little bigger, but since I won't have to get into the locker very often, I'm happy having a watertight chain locker in the event of holing the front of the  boat.  I do close the valve when I'm
underway, but when I'm at anchor or on the dock, I open the valve and flush the locker with fresh dock water once in a while to keep salt from building up.
 
Hope that helps.
Kent
SM 243 KRISTY

--- On Mon, 4/4/11, Belit Bh <belitbh@...> wrote:


From: Belit Bh <belitbh@...>
Subject: [Amel] Draining of water from chain locker
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Monday, April 4, 2011, 1:35 PM


 



Hi once again,

when cleaned my Chain locker earlier this week (highly recommended to do this -
lots of surprises there) have found out that:
1. access is terrible - believe (hope) there is a good reason for this.
2. that I have no clue where the water are drained from...
3. actually I found a clue which is a hole on the left side of the boat, but not
sure is the one - can anyone confirm?
4. again have no clue how to clean the draining (the whole way) - does anyone
have an idea?

hope someone could assist with it...

gooday

Belit

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Re: [Amel] Draining of water from chain locker

Jim Dernehl <jim.dernehl@...>
 

Pao-San #88

Kent,
Very interesting input regarding the chain locker----I had exactly the same problem---forward locker full of water. I sailed from Norfolk Virginia to Panama without realizing the locker was full of water. Once I turned/opened the valve it all drained out and then I dealt with the mess---some of the wood was damaged and I removed it. I cut out the flooring---but left about 1-2 inches of the fiberglass flooring edge. I used this edge as a support for a new teak floor---similar in design to the shower floor in the Amel heads. It allows everything to breath/air out and dry. The strong wood design supports all my anchors and road. Any water drains out plus I can remove the floor by lifting it out and easily clean the chain locker. Like the best things in life---it is simple and it works!!!
Best Jim Dernehl

-----Original Message-----
From: amelyachtowners@... on behalf of Kent Robertson
Sent: Mon 4/4/2011 7:29 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] Draining of water from chain locker

Hi, Belit,
I own SM 243, and cleaned my chain locker out last Fall.  I thought the water drained outside the boat, but discovered that it actually drains through a hole in the bottom of the locker out through the grey water system into the bilge.  There is a valve under the cushion in the middle of the vee berth near the forward air conditioner that was closed until I discovered it.  The chain locker was full of water and salt.  I took all the chain out onto the dock, reversed it, and flushed the chain locker clean before I brought the chain back into the locker.  It is hard to get to (I had to get my girlfriend, Dawn, to undo the shackle on the end of the chain because I couldn't get but one arm into the locker).  The entry via the watertight door could have been a little bigger, but since I won't have to get into the locker very often, I'm happy having a watertight chain locker in the event of holing the front of the  boat.  I do close the valve when I'm
underway, but when I'm at anchor or on the dock, I open the valve and flush the locker with fresh dock water once in a while to keep salt from building up.
 
Hope that helps.
Kent
SM 243 KRISTY

--- On Mon, 4/4/11, Belit Bh <belitbh@...> wrote:


From: Belit Bh <belitbh@...>
Subject: [Amel] Draining of water from chain locker
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Monday, April 4, 2011, 1:35 PM


 



Hi once again,

when cleaned my Chain locker earlier this week (highly recommended to do this -
lots of surprises there) have found out that:
1. access is terrible - believe (hope) there is a good reason for this.
2. that I have no clue where the water are drained from...
3. actually I found a clue which is a hole on the left side of the boat, but not
sure is the one - can anyone confirm?
4. again have no clue how to clean the draining (the whole way) - does anyone
have an idea?

hope someone could assist with it...

gooday

Belit










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Re: [Amel] replacing seal on the rudder stock

Mark Hayden
 

I'm finishing replacing the seal on my rudder stock and thought I'd add a few more notes. Hope this is helpful.

* A 2-arm puller helped a great deal getting the quadrant off. Not sure how I would have removed the quadrant without a puller.

* For packing material, the 8mm (5/16") gland packing provided a good tight fit. 2ft was just enough for 3 rows, which I believe is what is required.

* Several people I talked with recommended using packing pre-impregnated with (I believe) PTFE-based lubricant, which is brownish in color (rather than white).

* I found a 5cm PVC pipe useful for packing the rows. This was the same pipe that I used for pushing the prop-shaft bearing lip seals. It seems like having a few feet of this on board is a good idea.

Now, hopefully there will be no more water leaking into our berth...

regards, Mark

--- In amelyachtowners@..., Richard03801 <richard03801@...> wrote:

Hi the quadrant is in 2 parts and is more often then not fused or frozen to the shaft. Once you take off the bolts a block of wood and a hammer to get it off. The packing nut is under it. On some Amels we've used a penetrating
Oil like crv5 56 with heat and a pulled to get the quad to break free. Once off you will need a big flat adj wrench 3 1/4 " range to work it.
Regards
Richard Piller

On Jul 21, 2010, at 11:44, Paul LaFrance <pflafrance@...> wrote:


Our Quadrant over the nut appears to be welded to the post. Only one side comes off. Is this normal or does the whole assembly come off to reveal the not?

Paul LaFrance
SV NOMAD SM 362



To: amelyachtowners@...
From: richard03801@...
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 08:16:48 -0400
Subject: Re: [Amel] replacing seal on the rudder stock




























Hi under the quadrant at the top of the hull there is a large nut there is not much space it is there that is what holds in the packing.



Regards

Richard Piller



On Jul 20, 2010, at 16:53, "deborah" <woodsdeborah_56@...> wrote:



Richard
Thanks for your reply. There is no obvious nut on our rudder post unless it is recessed into the tube through which the rudder post exits the boat. Is the nut on your boat obvious and just a large hex nut? or is it recessed?
Many thanks
Deb and John
Maramu Orion1
--- In amelyachtowners@..., Richard Piller <richard03801@> wrote:
HI, yes you can replace the seal from inside the aft cabin.
1- Get a large wrench that will adjust to fit the rudder post nut. (you can get
them at West and Defender or other marine stores.)
2- You will have to remove the quadrant on the rudder. That may also mean
taking off the rudder indicator for the auto pilot.
3- There is a tab on the nut to stop it from turning remove it.
4- Remove the quadrant you will need to use some CRC 5 56 or some other
penetrating oil.
5- Remove the big nut on the rudder shaft.
6- Use a pick to remove the old packing.
7- When installing the new packing cut the corners on an angle for a better
seal.
8- We used several rows of packing and coated it with silicon grease.
9- Re-install the nut (do not install the tab yet)
10- install the quadrant and turn the rudder to seat the seal.
11- Re-tighten the rudder nut and install the tab.
Key an eye on it for a while to be sure it has sealed.
Good luck.
Richard on SM 209
________________________________
From: deborah <woodsdeborah_56@>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Sun, July 18, 2010 12:31:43 PM
Subject: [Amel] replacing seal on the rudder stock
I wonder if you are able to help has anyone replaced the seal on the rudder
stock(shaft) accessible from inside the stern cabin on our Maramu. Some advice
on how would be really helpful.
Thanks
Deb and John
Orion1


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Re: [Amel] Furling and Outhaul gearbox info

karkauai
 

Hi, Barb, Use this:

 http://www.leroy-somer.com/documentation_pdf/notices_pdf/1621a_MEVA_en.pdf
 
Works for me.
Kent
SM 243 KRISTY

--- On Mon, 4/4/11, Barb <surfskis2002@...> wrote:


From: Barb <surfskis2002@...>
Subject: [Amel] Furling and Outhaul gearbox info
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Monday, April 4, 2011, 6:12 PM


 



I found the following msg 7416 - but unfortunately the link is broken is anyone else able to open this as it probably contains the information that will really help

"The following is the installation and maintenance manual for the
furling/outhaul gearbox on our SM2000. It contains disassembly and
parts ordering information.

http://www.leroy-
somer.com/documentation_pdf/notices_pdf/1621a_MEVA_en.pdf
Thanks so much.
Barb