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[Amel] Re: SM 93 Ballooner sails & Amel Electronic Manual
Mark Hayden
I've posted a link to a ZIP file containing scans for just about all the documents that came with our SM2K # 331. Look under the Links folder for the Amel group for "Amel SM2K Scanned Manuals", or use the link below.
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Obviously, some of these are specific to our boat but many should be common to similar hulls. When the same information was available in multiple languages, we only scanned the English version. Given the Yahoo Groups space limitations, I've posted this under a separate service. Let me know if you have any problems downloading the file. You can reach me directly at markghayden _AT_ yahoo.com As I said in an earlier email, these are quite handy to have on your laptop and we have found them useful to put on our iPad via the iBooks app. Just go to iTunes, select File -> Add to Library for each folder. Then select Books for your device and select Sync Books -> All Books. best, Mark http://c575268.r68.cf2.rackcdn.com/Manuals.zip ./Amel/AmelBalloonerInstructions.pdf ./Amel/AmelBowThruster.pdf ./Amel/AmelContacts.pdf ./Amel/AmelSailMaintenance.pdf ./Amel/AmelSchemaCommandePuissPropulseur.pdf ./Amel/AmelSM2K.pdf ./Amel/AmelSM2KElectricalSystem.pdf ./Amel/AmelSM2KFluidSystems.pdf ./Amel/AmelWinterService.pdf ./Amel/DouaneEuropeanAgents.pdf ./Amel/Drawings/Drawing_10_Deck_Join.pdf ./Amel/Drawings/Drawing_11_Compartments.pdf ./Amel/Drawings/Drawing_12_Main_Mast.pdf ./Amel/Drawings/Drawing_13_Propeller_Shaft.pdf ./Amel/Drawings/Drawing_1_Layout.pdf ./Amel/Drawings/Drawing_2_Layout.pdf ./Amel/Drawings/Drawing_3_Rudder.pdf ./Amel/Drawings/Drawing_4_Construction.pdf ./Amel/Drawings/Drawing_5_Cross_Section.pdf ./Amel/Drawings/Drawing_6_Engine_Room.pdf ./Amel/Drawings/Drawing_7_Fuel_Tank.pdf ./Amel/Drawings/Drawing_8_Battery.pdf ./Amel/Drawings/Drawing_9_Butane.pdf ./Appliance/AirConditionerWaterPump.pdf ./Appliance/BerkertFluidControlSwitch.pdf ./Appliance/CasaforteSafe.pdf ./Appliance/ClimmaAirConditioner.pdf ./Appliance/EnoStove.pdf ./Appliance/EumeniaDishWasher.pdf ./Appliance/FrigoboatAV35FRefrigerator.pdf ./Appliance/OmnimaxTVAntennae.pdf ./Appliance/ThomsonWashingMachine.pdf ./Appliance/ThomsonWashingMachineFrench.pdf ./Dinghy/Parts Catalog M8B-9.8B (2003) - (00221030-5).pdf ./Dinghy/TohatsuOutboard.pdf ./Drive/BajaFuelFilter.pdf ./Drive/BruntonAutoprop.pdf ./Drive/JabscoBlower.pdf ./Drive/Yanmar_4JH3_Overhaul_Service_Manual.pdf ./Drive/Yanmar_4JH3_T_series_Op_Manual.pdf ./Drive/YanmarDieselEngine.pdf ./Drive/ZFMarineTransmission.pdf ./Electrical/BatteryMonitor.pdf ./Electrical/MDKAL-ServiceParts.pdf ./Electrical/Onan-mdkBl-manual.pdf ./Electrical/OnanMDKALOperatorsManual.pdf ./Electrical/Sailor24To12VoltReg.pdf ./Electrical/SentryBatteryChargers.pdf ./GroundTackle/FortressAnchor.pdf ./GroundTackle/LofransTigresWindlass.pdf ./GroundTackle/PochonChainCounter_French.pdf ./Head/JabscoElectricToilet.pdf ./Head/JabscoElectricToiletConversion.pdf ./Misc/RadioShackThermometer.pdf ./Navigation/BrookesAndGatehouse/B&GSonicSpeedExtra.pdf ./Navigation/BrookesAndGatehouse/B&GSonicSpeedInstall.pdf ./Navigation/BrookesAndGatehouse/B&GSonicSpeedInstallDocPack.pdf ./Navigation/BrookesAndGatehouse/B&GSonicSpeedUser.pdf ./Navigation/Hydra2000.pdf ./Navigation/PlastimoCompass.pdf ./Safety/ACR_EPIRB.pdf ./Safety/DavisRadarReflector.pdf ./Safety/EdsonManualPump.pdf ./Safety/HendersonManualBilgePump.pdf ./Safety/HorizonVHFRadio.pdf ./Safety/IcomVHFRadio.pdf ./Safety/KatadynSurvivorWaterMaker.pdf ./Safety/LifeSling.pdf ./Safety/RapidFireStrobe.pdf ./Safety/WorldClassPFD_38AHAR.pdf ./Safety/WorldClassPFD_38AS-HAR.pdf ./Safety/ZodiacLiferaftEnglish.pdf ./Water/DessalatorWaterMaker.pdf ./Water/FEITFreshWaterPump.pdf ./Water/GroheShowerControl.pdf ./Water/JabscoWaterAccumulator.pdf ./Water/QuickWaterHeater.pdf ./Water/SeagullWaterFilter.pdf ./Water/WaterPumpLocationPurposeUnknown.pdf ./Winch/LewmarElectricWinch.pdf ./Winch/LewmarWinchAdjust.pdf
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Re: Yanmar 100 Hp 4jh3hte
Mark Hayden
Hi Eric,
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We recently replaced the elbows on both our Yanmar and Onan. I believe for the Yanmar it was the 3rd replacement after 9 years, similar as you. We were told by several sources the combination of heat + salt water + diesel exhaust is extremely corrosive. We ended up going with the Yanmar elbow (NZ$700 after initial quotes of NZ$1400). However, one of the steel fabricators we talked with in the interim had proposed adding a ceramic lining to prevent/decrease the corrosion. We did not follow that path, but perhaps it is worth trying. regards, Mark
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Taps
Conn Williamson <connwilliamson@...>
The Taps on our Mango have Mingori Onec on the top. Is it possible to get parts for these or are they no longer made. I've tried googling the name with no luck.
Regards...Conn Williamson Mango #28 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: Yanmar 100 Hp 4jh3hte
Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@...>
Eric,
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We bought a new elbow in Phuket with about 2,500 hours and about 8 years old. I also had the original elbow repaired by a TIG welder and carry it as a spare. I talked to several people that told me that the TIG welding would make it as good as new, but we were facing about 5,000 miles through the Indian Ocean, Gulf of Aden and Red Sea without much in terms of replacement parts. If I were you I would take the elbow to a good TIG welder in St. Martin for repair, then keep an eye on it after reinstalling it. Better yet, if you kept the first one, have both of them TIG welded and keep one as a spare. I wish I could find 3M™ Extreme Sealing Tape 4412N, or something similar for emergency repair of such things. Bill BeBe, SM2k, #387 Currently Marmaris, Turkey
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Re: A/C model number
Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@...>
Eric,
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BeBe, #387 has Climma Compact 9EH, 220 volts, 8k btu. Best, Bill BeBe, SM2k, #387 Currently Marmaris, Turkey
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Re: [Amel] A/C model number
Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
Eric ours are 8000 btu units I'll look for a model number and vet back to you. However your units are most likely different.
Regards Richard Piller SM 209 for sale in Annapolis. "Yacht Brokerage Service above and beyond the expected" Walczak Yacht Brokerage Service LLC 2 Compromise St Annapolis, MD 21401 Cell 603 767 5330 Office Fax www.Walczakyacht.com On May 22, 2011, at 20:43, kimberlite <kimberlite@optonline.net> wrote: Hi, [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Amel] Re: Amel Orange Boot Stripe
Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
Let's keep in mind that the last thing you want to do is weigh down the bow. You what it gently raise and fall with the seas. The stock photos of the SM shows the stripe a bit high. Also when motoring the stern " digs in" as more power is applied. IE the stripe is underwater
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Keep the bow balanced as best you can within reason. Most of the weight if tools food water fuel engine Gen set and batteries are arranged mid ships by design to keep her in balance. Regards Richard SM209 for sale in Annapolis "Yacht Brokerage Service above and beyond the expected" Walczak Yacht Brokerage Service LLC 2 Compromise St Annapolis, MD 21401 Cell 603 767 5330 Office Fax www.Walczakyacht.com
On May 22, 2011, at 10:48, "svsummerlove" <svsummerlove@yahoo.com> wrote:
I've noticed the same thing. At first, I thought it was due to my inability to balance all the stuff I seem to think I have to carry around. I've been checking every SM I've seen for the last several years, and haven't found one yet that rides with the boot stripe parallel to the water (at least those that haven't been repainted). On all the SM's I've seen, the boot stripe at the bow is always 8" - 10" out of the water, and at the stern is right at the water or immersed. The only difference between lightly laden boats and heavily boats is how high they ride, not the angle they ride at. They all seem to list slightly to port as well.
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Re: [Amel] Amel Orange Boot Stripe and corrosion in engine room
Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
In the normal loading for ocean work all the Amel seem to need the water line raised seems the Capt wanted the "sales" appearance to be more dynamic. We too collected an marine forest on the waterline and stern. Grant when healed over cross for days you will get growth on the leeward side as it is under water.
Smooth sailing. Regards Richard SM 209 ANNAPOLIS FOR SALE. "Yacht Brokerage Service above and beyond the expected" Walczak Yacht Brokerage Service LLC 2 Compromise St Annapolis, MD 21401 Cell 603 767 5330 Office Fax www.Walczakyacht.com On May 22, 2011, at 17:49, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@xtra.co.nz> wrote: Hi all, we too have the low stern. Knowing Amel do nothing without good reason and they build this model for many years without changing the waterline I wondered if they expected more ground tackle weight in the anchor locker than most of us have or more heavy items stored in the bow lockers?. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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A/C model number
kimberlite <kimberlite@...>
Hi,
I am not near the boat today and need the model number of the climma Air Conditioner in the forward cabin of Kimberlite. Does anyone know the model number? Fair Winds Eric Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite
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Yanmar 100 Hp 4jh3hte
kimberlite <kimberlite@...>
I now have to replace the exhaust elbow on my yanmar for the second time .
The engine is 9 years old. That seems a very short period for a component to last. The first one had many pinholes in it, the current one has at least one hole, after I scraped the salt encrustations off of it. It appears to be aluminum. Has anyone else experienced this problem? Any solutions? Fair Winds Eric Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite
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Re: [Amel] Refrigerator
john martin <symoondog@...>
Tap the compressor with a hammer, preferably with a piece of wood in between. Sitting for a while the compressor sometimes gets lazy. John "Moon Dog" SM 248
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com From: jvenegas@alum.mit.edu Date: Sun, 22 May 2011 17:47:45 +0000 Subject: [Amel] Refrigerator After a very long winter without use, I tried tu turn my refrigerator yesterday and the compressor failed to start. It was working fine last year but this time all it does is to generate a humming sound withut any cooling. I left if over one hour on and the compressor gets warm but the refrigerator still does not get cool. Although the thermostat seems to work (hear the click at one point), I tried bypassing the thermostat at the box with no results. My bateries are fully charged and I tried also turning on the engine (incresing the voltage to 28V) but that did not work either Has anyone had this problem, and if so, what is the solution? Also, I noted a switch and a red light that does not turn on below the refrigerator. What is it for? I tried turning the refrigerator on with the switch in both positions with no results. Any help and suggestions, including names of repairman or parts store in the US will be greatly appreciated. Jose Gabriel Venegas Ipanema SM2K 276 Constitution Marina, Boston [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Amel] Amel Orange Boot Stripe and corrosion in engine room
Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Hi all, we too have the low stern. Knowing Amel do nothing without good reason and they build this model for many years without changing the waterline I wondered if they expected more ground tackle weight in the anchor locker than most of us have or more heavy items stored in the bow lockers?.
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Corrosion in the engine room. A friend with a SM asked me how come my engine room is so free of corrosion and rust and his was so bad. The answer is WD40 or in NZ, CRC 556 Spray it regularly and liberally over just about every thing including alternators and electric motors. Makes a huge difference. Regards Danny and Yvonne SM299 Ocean Pearl Mangonui New Zealand
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From: Chris Smither <yachtakwaaba@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Amel] Amel Orange Boot Stripe To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> Date: Monday, 23, May, 2011, 8:57 AM Bill, Once we moved onto our Amel as "liveaboards" we raised the antifoul to meet the stripe......after doing it we were told by others that this was a certain sign of "liveaboards" Now that we have decided to stay in Phuket, and do no more ocean crossings.....at the next haulout I was thinking of re-adjusting the waterline......say no more!! Glad to see that your move from the Maldives to the Med went well. All the Best Mike Akwaaba SN 027 ________________________________ From: Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@svbebe.com> To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [Amel] Amel Orange Boot Stripe Eric, I was tempted to raise the antifouling paint to meet the stripe to solve the same issue, but I believe that BeBe will begin to loose weight now that we are in the Med...we'll see. Best, Bill BeBe, Sm2k, #387 Currently Marmaris, Turkey --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, kimberlite <kimberlite@...> wrote: [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Amel] Ocean Navigator Article
luvkante
Eric,
thank you for your information. Fine, that you arrived safely back in NY. Best regards, Martin ________________________________ Von: kimberlite <kimberlite@optonline.net> An: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Gesendet: Sonntag, den 22. Mai 2011, 5:52:38 Uhr Betreff: RE: [Amel] Ocean Navigator Article Martin, I just returned from bringing Kimberlite back to New York from St Martin. Boring except for a gale in the Gulf Stream, and 12 hours of pea soup fog while sailing into New York and down long Island Sound. Kind of like playing Pac-man with radar and AIS. I took a look at the Amel 54 in my marina in St Martin. The way the stanchions and other gear on the stern of the boat is configured, I guess you would have to add stern attachments to the side of the boat as the bridles would interfere with almost everything on the stern. Just picture a 30 foot long bridle and the geometry of the drogue and you will see what I am speaking about. Fair Winds Eric Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite _____ From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Martin Komischke Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 5:21 AM To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Subject: AW: [Amel] Ocean Navigator Article Eric, that`s what I call a quick response: 11 mins! Yes, of course I have been to the ACE webpage and I read most of the available articles from the coast guard and so on. One article stated, that you MUST not attach it to your cleats (@ an average boat) and described how to reinforce your stern). I am not willing to do something like that. So advice from a person who really knows what he is taking about and having been through all of that in real life is exactly what I need. BTW CHIARA is located in Varazze, Italy, supposingly a few thousands miles away from you. So if I may, I will send you an EMail at the beginning of may? Very best regards, Martin ________________________________ Von: kimberlite <kimberlite@optonline.net <mailto:kimberlite%40optonline.net> > An: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> Gesendet: Sonntag, den 17. April 2011, 10:57:37 Uhr Betreff: RE: [Amel] Ocean Navigator Article I forgot to ask where is your boat located? Fair Winds Eric _____ From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Martin Komischke Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 4:44 AM To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: [Amel] Ocean Navigator Article Hi Eric, may name is Martin and I am the owner of Amel 54 #149 "CHIARA". Full of respect I have read your article in Ocean Navigator. Amazing and congratulations on your excellent semanship! I wouldn`t have a chance in such a situation, so what I have to do is learn from people like you. Yet I have not fully understood how you rigged the drogue ( e.g. which reinforced attaching points) and especially how you manage to pull it in again (e.g.how do you guide it at the stern, when you have it on the winch). I really would appreciate if you could describe it for me a little more in detail. May be there is a difference between a SM 200 and a 54 as well. Thank you in advance. Martin S/V CHIARA [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] E [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Amel] Amel Orange Boot Stripe
Chris Smither <yachtakwaaba@...>
Bill,
Once we moved onto our Amel as "liveaboards" we raised the antifoul to meet the stripe......after doing it we were told by others that this was a certain sign of "liveaboards" Now that we have decided to stay in Phuket, and do no more ocean crossings.....at the next haulout I was thinking of re-adjusting the waterline......say no more!! Glad to see that your move from the Maldives to the Med went well. All the Best Mike Akwaaba SN 027 ________________________________ From: Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@svbebe.com> To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [Amel] Amel Orange Boot Stripe Eric, I was tempted to raise the antifouling paint to meet the stripe to solve the same issue, but I believe that BeBe will begin to loose weight now that we are in the Med...we'll see. Best, Bill BeBe, Sm2k, #387 Currently Marmaris, Turkey --- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, kimberlite <kimberlite@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel] Onan genset starting problems
amelforme
Hey Jeff! Not to be professional; to be safe and free from a potential fire
source. All storage batteries store lots of energy that must be able to be taken out of a circuit quickly in case of a short circuit. All the best, Joel Joel F. Potter - Cruising Yacht Specialist, LLC Amel's Sole Associate for the Americas Mailing Address: 401 East Las Olas Boulevard #130-126 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 33301 Phone: (954) 462-5869 Email: jfpottercys@att.net www.yachtworld.com/jfpottercys
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Refrigerator
After a very long winter without use, I tried tu turn my refrigerator yesterday and the compressor failed to start. It was working fine last year but this time all it does is to generate a humming sound withut any cooling. I left if over one hour on and the compressor gets warm but the refrigerator still does not get cool. Although the thermostat seems to work (hear the click at one point), I tried bypassing the thermostat at the box with no results.
My bateries are fully charged and I tried also turning on the engine (incresing the voltage to 28V) but that did not work either Has anyone had this problem, and if so, what is the solution? Also, I noted a switch and a red light that does not turn on below the refrigerator. What is it for? I tried turning the refrigerator on with the switch in both positions with no results. Any help and suggestions, including names of repairman or parts store in the US will be greatly appreciated. Jose Gabriel Venegas Ipanema SM2K 276 Constitution Marina, Boston
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Onan genset starting problems
Jeffrey Rapp <rapp.jeffrey@...>
I had the same problem on "Antares".
I cleaned all the connections several times, although perhaps not the main engine ground, as the engine always started right up. I found a voltage drop from the starting battery to the genset positive terminal. I never could find exactly where the short was, so I disconnected the cables from the starting battery to the genset, installed a second battery and box near the genset, and it has worked fine ever since. One caveat: a certain yacht broker well known to this forum advised (probably rightly) that to be professional, the installation needed a cutoff switch. Regards Jeff Antares, SM2k #278 Currently aground in Healdsburg, California
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Re: Amel Orange Boot Stripe
svsummerlove <svsummerlove@...>
I've noticed the same thing. At first, I thought it was due to my inability to balance all the stuff I seem to think I have to carry around. I've been checking every SM I've seen for the last several years, and haven't found one yet that rides with the boot stripe parallel to the water (at least those that haven't been repainted). On all the SM's I've seen, the boot stripe at the bow is always 8" - 10" out of the water, and at the stern is right at the water or immersed. The only difference between lightly laden boats and heavily boats is how high they ride, not the angle they ride at. They all seem to list slightly to port as well.
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Even if I moved everything portable from the aft cabin to the forward cabin, there wouldn't be enough weight to make much difference. I just assumed, as with most things "Amel", they had a good reason for it. 1. Does anyone know if the boot stripe of a completely empty SM, rides in the same manner? 2. Has anyone been able to load their SM so the boot stripe rides parallel to the water? If so, how was that accomplished? 3. Does anyone know if there is an intended reason why Amel painted the boot stripe so that it doesn't ride parallel to the water? Thanks, Steve SM340 Summer Love
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S.M for sale
ivarmylde <mylde@...>
S.M. #53 built 1991 for sale
Always good maintained by first and present owner. Many upgrades/extras, Yanmar engine approx 700 hrs, Onan gen. approx 500 hrs. Many sails, inner fock on roller etc. Laying Greece Price Euro 215.000. Cud take real estate Southern Europe or Scandinavia, but pref. cash Ivar
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Re: [Amel] Amel Orange Boot Stripe
Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@...>
Eric, I was tempted to raise the antifouling paint to meet the stripe to solve the same issue, but I believe that BeBe will begin to loose weight now that we are in the Med...we'll see.
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Best, Bill BeBe, Sm2k, #387 Currently Marmaris, Turkey
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