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Lofrans windlasses

Jorge <jorge.zlatar@...>
 

Hi all
I have a Lofrans mod Tigres, and today after a heavy rain while at dock,at 5 am my windlass started to work alone, Y normally tie the anchor as a safety precaution, and so this time.
I I haven´t done it, this time, the anchor and chain would have gone to the water. Wet switch ?

Any comments?
Jorge and Isabel
SV Excalibur


Re: [Amel] starter motor alternator

woods deborah <woodsdeborah_56@...>
 

Many thanks that's a big help

Deb



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From: David Wallace <svairops@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Saturday, 28 May 2011, 20:41
Subject: RE: [Amel] starter motor alternator


Hi,  are you asking about the alternator that charges the battery for the engine starter?  If so, our Maramu has the original Perkins 4-154 and the alternator (mounted on the stbd front of the engine) is a Lucas 11AC.
Daves/v Air OpsMaramu #104

To: amelyachtowners@...
From: woodsdeborah_56@...
Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 19:26:36 +0000
Subject: [Amel] starter motor alternator






















 


   
     
     
      We have a mararmu and the alternator to the starter motor has just packed in. We have taken it off but there does not seem to be a model number on it anywhere. I was wondering if anyone can help.



Many thanks



Deb

Orion 1 Maramu #42





   
   

   
   






                         





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starter motor alternator

deborah <woodsdeborah_56@...>
 

My apologies it's a Perkins 4154 60 hp

Regards

Deb


Re: [Amel] starter motor alternator

David Wallace
 

Hi, are you asking about the alternator that charges the battery for the engine starter? If so, our Maramu has the original Perkins 4-154 and the alternator (mounted on the stbd front of the engine) is a Lucas 11AC.
Daves/v Air OpsMaramu #104

To: amelyachtowners@...
From: woodsdeborah_56@...
Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 19:26:36 +0000
Subject: [Amel] starter motor alternator




























We have a mararmu and the alternator to the starter motor has just packed in. We have taken it off but there does not seem to be a model number on it anywhere. I was wondering if anyone can help.



Many thanks



Deb

Orion 1 Maramu #42


















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Re: starter motor alternator

joseph mc donnell
 

What is the make of engine, H.P. etc.
regards Joe McDonnell


starter motor alternator

deborah <woodsdeborah_56@...>
 

We have a mararmu and the alternator to the starter motor has just packed in. We have taken it off but there does not seem to be a model number on it anywhere. I was wondering if anyone can help.

Many thanks

Deb
Orion 1 Maramu #42


Re: [Amel] Re: Onan genset starting problems

Patrick McAneny
 

Richard, No although it sounds like others came from Amel with a 110
inverter installed. I am going to add a breaker between the inverter and
outlets.Diane picked up a replacement cord for the tv and we will see if the tv had
a short or just the cord. We survived another winter. Thanks, Pat


Re: [Amel] Insurance Comparison

Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@...>
 

We had to leave our last insurer, Allianz UK, because they decided to change the terms at renewal time regarding the Indian Ocean. We are in our second year with Assurances Maritimes Allain de Lassée (Groupama Transport) in France. They are one of the few companies that write "around the world" insurance. They specialize in a few brands of yachts and Amel is their primary brand according to our contact in France.

Assurances Maritimes will write a US documented yacht as long as its home port is not within the US. BeBe's home port is St. Thomas, USVI. We use our Houston address for the policy. If you are a US documented vessel, changing your home port is done by filing form CG-1258 with the USCG.

Their hurricane coverage clause is also very reasonable...there are no exclusion boxes of lat/lon. If you are at sea in a storm, you are covered, if you are in port and have taken reasonable steps to protect the yacht, you are covered.

If you are interested ask for a copy of the contract language. We were provided an English version.

Contact information for Assurances Maritimes is Françoise GODINEAU <fgodineau"at"assurances-delassee.com>. Tell him that you are interested in a quote like he did for yacht "BeBe."

Best,

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387


Re: [Amel] Insurance Comparison

EdisonR <roque@...>
 

Thank you Eric, Anne & John, Peter and everyone else who took the time to share their experience regarding insurance.

I think a feedback about my choice is in order:

The final comparison was between Pantaenius-SP and Assurances Maritimes de Lassee/Groupama

I chose de Lassee/ Groupama, from France. I hope I will never know if this was the best call, but the main reason is that they promptly included an amendment clause in the contract, regarding a specific need. And, their price was 35% less than Pantaenius final estimate. There were a few differences, but not enough to justify 35%.

To be fair, I must add that the attention and advice I got from Mr. Keefer (Pantaenius Spain) was outstanding and much, much better than De Lassee's. So maybe, should an accident occur, I am guessing I would get better attention from Pantaenius. But, as I said, I hope we will never know.

Should anyone need more specifics, feel free to write "roque at credvapt com br "

Thanks again

Roque
Atica Amel 54 #110, currently in Spain

--- In amelyachtowners@..., kimberlite <kimberlite@...> wrote:

Kimberlite has always ben insured with a company suggested by Joel. Brown
and Brown in Ft Lauderdale. About 4 years we were hit by lightning at the
dock. They paid to the penny including some questionable possibly good/
possibly bad items to the tune of over 100 k.
All electronics, furling motors, thruster motor , alternator, starting
motor, generator boards, a whole new set of batteries and a new set of
worldwide chart plotter chips and more that I can not remember. All in all a
extremely fine experience ( no damage to the hull or Rigging).

Brown and Brown.
Ft Lauderdale (AIG insurance CO)
Fair Winds
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite



-----Original Message-----
From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Anne and John Hollamby
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 1:02 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] Insurance Comparison

I have been covered by Pantaenius UK Branch for the past 18 years without a
claim for 16 of them, being very impressed with their sales line under the
now retired MD Barry Sullivan. A couple of years ago we were anchored in a
north facing bay on an island with a forecast of southerly winds. A squall
came through from the north in the middle of the night and we had to up
anchor in 40/50 knots towing our nearly new dinghy as a charter boat was
dangerously close. First the dinghy was upended and the old 5hp engine went
and then the dinghy broke loose and was lost. Pantaenius was not generous
but did pay for the cost of a new dinghy but only allowed 100 euros for the
old engine BUT they deducted 50% under the terms of the policy as the dinghy

was not on board. I thought that this was very mean as it was not
unreasonable to leave the dinghy in the water but locked on with a long wire

in view of the forecast. We had saved the yacht from being damaged by the
charter boat and avoided the risk of being driven ashore. Their only saving
grace was that they did not penalise me with the deductible. I was not very
happy after all those years bearng in mind the £35,000 that I had paid them
over that time.
Back in 1991 my then yacht was severely damaged in Newport, RI and I was
very unhappy with my insurers but I suppose it was not their fault. Their
loss adjusters employed a surveyor who produced a poor spec on which he got
several quotes ranging from $55,000 to $212,000. With hindsight the moral
of that story was that I should have employed an independent surveyor/loss
adjuster although that is easier said than done as most surveyors get much
of their income from insurers. In the event I had the boat shipped back to
the UK where a good surveyor got three estimates ranging from £72,000 to
££78,000.
I then had a meeting with the brokers and my surveyor and he astonished me
by saying that he could not act for me during the repair process as the
insurers were major clients of his.

Happy sailing, Anne and John, SM 319

----- Original Message -----
From: "peter killen" <peterkillen@...>
To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 10:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Insurance Comparison


Hi Roque, I am insured through Topsail Insurance brokers (agents for
Navigators and General (The trading name for Zurich Insurance PLC). I
have used them for the last 7 years, ever since Pantaenius refused to
insure me for a trip on our Amel from Ireland to the Antarctic and back.
I find them to be most helpful and efficient (and reasonable). Their
email address is; enquiries@... They advertise from
time to time in OCC Flying Fish Journal

Regards, Peter s/v Pure Magic 433
On 25 Apr 2011, at 14:20, EdisonR wrote:

Hi everyone.

I have read a lot of previous posts about insurance and started asking
for quotes. It is now narrowed down to 2 providers: Pantaenius (Mr.
Keefer Ascher from Mallorca) and Assurances Maritimes de Lessee (Mr.
Geoffroy de Lassee) which uses Groupama, a French insurer.

Our Amel 54 is in Spain - Spanish flag- and we will spend the next 2
years in the Med.

Price aside, has anyone an opinion, pros and cons, heads up or a
firsthand experience with either one?

Thank you

Roque
s/v Atica. Amel 54 #110
Currently in Spain



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Re: [Amel] Re: Onan genset starting problems

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

Pat was your boat wired for 110 v by Amel?

Regards sm 209 in Annapolis FOR SALE
Richard Piller

"Yacht Brokerage Service above and beyond the expected"

Walczak Yacht Brokerage Service LLC
2 Compromise St
Annapolis, MD 21401

Cell 603 767 5330
Office
Fax

www.Walczakyacht.com

On May 27, 2011, at 7:31, sailw32@... wrote:

Steve, There is a fuse between the battery bank and the inverter, but no
fuse or breaker from the inverter to the outlets. I assume the inverter has a
internal breaker, but that may be a bad assumption and will add a breaker
between the inverter and outlets. Thanks , Pat




Re: [Amel] Re: Onan genset starting problems

Patrick McAneny
 

Steve, There is a fuse between the battery bank and the inverter, but no
fuse or breaker from the inverter to the outlets. I assume the inverter has a
internal breaker, but that may be a bad assumption and will add a breaker
between the inverter and outlets. Thanks , Pat


Re: [Amel] Yanmar exhaust elbow

Eric Lindholm <etlindholm@...>
 

I should be at the boat in the next few days, I will take a photo of the exhaust
and the heat jacket and forward it to you. Basically there is a 90 degree elbow
right off the turbo going almost straight up, swept back some to the rear. There
is a straight tube, single wall, no water jacket going up from the elbow and
then another 90 degree elbow at the top pointing back down towards the muffler.
At the end of this elbow is a double walled, water cooled straight tube that the
exhaust hose attaches to with multiple holes for the water to eject for cooling.
The fabricator, who is a wizard at this, then had a custom made exhaust jacket
made that wraps around the whole thing and is held in place with stainless steel
springs. 

Eric Maramu 105 

 



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From: kimberlite <kimberlite@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Thu, May 26, 2011 8:42:44 PM
Subject: RE: [Amel] Yanmar exhaust elbow

 
In reading your note again, that is what the yanmar exhaust box looks like.

I would love to see a photo.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

Fair Winds

Eric

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From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Eric Lindholm
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 11:26 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] Yanmar exhaust elbow

When I repowered my Maramu with a Yanmar, I had a stainless steel manifold
made
with a 20 inch rise with the water injection at the top of the riser. There
is
no water jacket to rust out as it is a dry stack to the top. I had a heat
proof
jacket made for the dry stack portion. The whole thing did not cost me
$1,000
and will last forever. You might want to look into that.

Eric Maramu 105

________________________________
From: kimberlite <kimberlite@...
<mailto:kimberlite%40optonline.net> >
To: amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, May 26, 2011 7:06:07 PM
Subject: [Amel] Yanmar exhaust elbow

I contacted my Yanmar dealer here in New York, about the rusted out exhaust
elbow.

Yanmar has come yup with a solution. , a box like manifold with an exhaust
port on the bottom.

Manifold, hoses, and support bracket $1300- US$

What an insult.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

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Re: [Amel] Yanmar exhaust elbow

kimberlite <kimberlite@...>
 

In reading your note again, that is what the yanmar exhaust box looks like.

I would love to see a photo.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

Fair Winds

Eric





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From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Eric Lindholm
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 11:26 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] Yanmar exhaust elbow





When I repowered my Maramu with a Yanmar, I had a stainless steel manifold
made
with a 20 inch rise with the water injection at the top of the riser. There
is
no water jacket to rust out as it is a dry stack to the top. I had a heat
proof
jacket made for the dry stack portion. The whole thing did not cost me
$1,000
and will last forever. You might want to look into that.

Eric Maramu 105

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From: kimberlite <kimberlite@...
<mailto:kimberlite%40optonline.net> >
To: amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, May 26, 2011 7:06:07 PM
Subject: [Amel] Yanmar exhaust elbow


I contacted my Yanmar dealer here in New York, about the rusted out exhaust
elbow.

Yanmar has come yup with a solution. , a box like manifold with an exhaust
port on the bottom.

Manifold, hoses, and support bracket $1300- US$

What an insult.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite


Re: [Amel] Yanmar exhaust elbow

kimberlite <kimberlite@...>
 

Eric,

Could you explain this a little more.

Do you have a photo?

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Eric Lindholm
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 11:26 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] Yanmar exhaust elbow





When I repowered my Maramu with a Yanmar, I had a stainless steel manifold
made
with a 20 inch rise with the water injection at the top of the riser. There
is
no water jacket to rust out as it is a dry stack to the top. I had a heat
proof
jacket made for the dry stack portion. The whole thing did not cost me
$1,000
and will last forever. You might want to look into that.

Eric Maramu 105

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From: kimberlite <kimberlite@...
<mailto:kimberlite%40optonline.net> >
To: amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, May 26, 2011 7:06:07 PM
Subject: [Amel] Yanmar exhaust elbow


I contacted my Yanmar dealer here in New York, about the rusted out exhaust
elbow.

Yanmar has come yup with a solution. , a box like manifold with an exhaust
port on the bottom.

Manifold, hoses, and support bracket $1300- US$

What an insult.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite


Re: [Amel] Yanmar exhaust elbow

Eric Lindholm <etlindholm@...>
 

When I repowered my Maramu with a Yanmar, I had a stainless steel manifold made
with a 20 inch rise with the water injection at the top of the riser. There is
no water jacket to rust out as it is a dry stack to the top. I had a heat proof
jacket made for the dry stack portion. The whole thing did not cost me $1,000
and will last forever. You might want to look into that.

Eric Maramu 105



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From: kimberlite <kimberlite@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Thu, May 26, 2011 7:06:07 PM
Subject: [Amel] Yanmar exhaust elbow

 
I contacted my Yanmar dealer here in New York, about the rusted out exhaust
elbow.

Yanmar has come yup with a solution. , a box like manifold with an exhaust
port on the bottom.

Manifold, hoses, and support bracket $1300- US$

What an insult.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

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Yanmar exhaust elbow

kimberlite <kimberlite@...>
 

I contacted my Yanmar dealer here in New York, about the rusted out exhaust
elbow.

Yanmar has come yup with a solution. , a box like manifold with an exhaust
port on the bottom.

Manifold, hoses, and support bracket $1300- US$

What an insult.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite


Re: [Amel] Re: Onan genset starting problems

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

Pat we put a breaker between the batteries and the 24 to 12 volt inverter we then run the 110 v output to the 110v breaker supplied by Amel. If we get a short anyplace we are protected.

Sm209 in Annapolis FOR SALE
Regards
Richard Piller

"Yacht Brokerage Service above and beyond the expected"

Walczak Yacht Brokerage Service LLC
2 Compromise St
Annapolis, MD 21401

Cell 603 767 5330
Office
Fax

www.Walczakyacht.com

On May 26, 2011, at 9:16, "svsummerlove" <svsummerlove@...> wrote:

Hi Pat,

If it were up to me, I'd always put a properly sized breaker on the distribution side of the circuit to protect the wiring (i.e. the fire hazard). A GFI outlet will work, but is primarily intended to trip anytime it senses the presence of a path to ground to prevent shock to a person. Usually, they are only used where there's a reasonable chance a person could provide that path, such as through the copper plumbing of a bathroom or kitchen. In other words, you wouldn't wire an entire house with GFI outlets to eliminate the need for breakers on the main breaker panel, but you could use a GFI breaker in the panel to feed all the outlets for added personal hazard protection.

How do you have your inverter wired to the 110 VAC receptacles? For example, Amel wires the 220 VAC receptacles from the inverter through the breaker on the 220VAC panel.

Steve
SM340
Summer Love

--- In amelyachtowners@..., sailw32@... wrote:

Steve, Last week I was down below when a lot of smoke poured from the
starboard lockers. I found the power supply cord to the tv fried. The inverter
was on supplying 110v. the tv was off ,I guess the cord or tv had a short. I
just put a gfi outlet to supply power in the future . Is that protection
enough or should I fuse the power cord as well. I am very glad I was onboard to
shut the power off.No other wiring was burnt. I think the tv that are built
today always have current to them provided there is a power source even when
the power is turned off. Thanks Pat

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Re: [Amel] Re: Amel Orange Boot Stripe and corrosion in engine room

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Hi Steve, I have now uploaded some photos to show the new waterline and boot top. Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Ibiza

To: amelyachtowners@...
From: svsummerlove@...
Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 12:32:24 +0000
Subject: [Amel] Re: Amel Orange Boot Stripe and corrosion in engine room

Hi Ian and Judy,

Many thanks for the advice. That sure sounds like the easiest and cleanest way to solve the problem. I just wanted to make certain I wasn't going to create a new problem.

I like the idea of a blue stripe too. I had already considered a dark green color to camouflage the growth. :-)

Thanks,

Steve
SM340
Summer Love

--- In amelyachtowners@..., Ian & Judy Jenkins <ianjudyjenkins@...> wrote:


Hi Steve, All SMs that I know of seem to float stern down, particularly when in cruising load mode. As a result I would take a lot of convincing that Amel have actually painted the orange stripe in the right place all these years. We love Amels dearly ( this is our third ) but stubbornness is one of their virtues. Having spent hours and hours over 9 years, in the water or in the dinghy, cleaning the orange and intermediate white stripe, we decided last year, when we applied Coppercoat antifouling, that enough was enough. We took a deep breath and brought the Coppercoat to the TOP of the orange stripe, adding a new blue stripe above that, with the intermediate white stripe in between. I cannot tell you how pleased we are with the result. Should have done it years ago. The hull looks just right, slightly sleeker, the fact that the Coppercoat ( brown but going very softly green with oxidisation) comes up so high looks right. No more cleaning of that lower part and , an added bonus, noticeably less white hull to clean and polish---and you can do that from the dinghy or dock without getting your polishing rag wet. In our experience you don't need to change the angle, just raise the waterline and add a new coloured strip. Happy painting, Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Ibiza ( where the water temp is 23c but the sea is awash with jellyfish!)

To: amelyachtowners@...
From: svsummerlove@...
Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 15:19:54 +0000
Subject: [Amel] Re: Amel Orange Boot Stripe and corrosion in engine room

I would think that intentionally painting the boot stripe at an angle that isn't parallel to the water for marketing purposes is out of character for Capt Henri. If he wanted to "pose" a boat for the marketing literature photo with no anti-fouling paint showing to make it look "dynamic", I believe he was clever enough to artificially load one for that purpose, rather than painting the stripe in the wrong place on 450 boats. Nor do I see him sacrificing function for "eye appeal".

I'm not talking about simply raising the boot stripe 4" so the stern is barely out of the water, and the bow is now 12" out of the water. I'm asking about the consequences of changing the angle of it down the length of the boat so that it's 4" to 8" out of the water all the way to the stern. I've already got 8" of "dry" anti-fouling paint at the bow. I don't need 4 more inches.

Example:

If I want the fiberglass along the waterline to remain free of growth, I have 3 choices:

1. I can leave the boot stripe where it is now, and try to balance the boat with weight distribution so the bow rides 4" lower and the stern 4" higher.

2. I can change only the "location" of the entire boot stripe by raising it 4", so it is now 12" out of the water at the bow, and 4" out at the stern.

3. I can change both the "angle" and the "location" of the boot stripe so it is 4" out of the water along its entire length.

Since the boot stripe of every SM I've seen rides bow high with the stern in the water, it can be assumed that either none of the owners are capable of proper weight distribution, or the boot stripe was painted in the wrong place to begin with.

My concern is that, assuming the naval architect who put it there knew what he was doing and had a good reason for doing it, I don't want to alter the angle of the boot stripe without knowing that reason.

Does anyone know that reason?

Many thanks,

Steve
SM340
Summer Love


--- In amelyachtowners@..., Richard03801 <richard03801@> wrote:

In the normal loading for ocean work all the Amel seem to need the water line raised seems the Capt wanted the "sales" appearance to be more dynamic. We too collected an marine forest on the waterline and stern. Grant when healed over cross for days you will get growth on the leeward side as it is under water.

Smooth sailing.

Regards
Richard SM 209 ANNAPOLIS FOR SALE.

"Yacht Brokerage Service above and beyond the expected"

Walczak Yacht Brokerage Service LLC
2 Compromise St
Annapolis, MD 21401

Cell 603 767 5330
Office
Fax

www.Walczakyacht.com

On May 22, 2011, at 17:49, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@> wrote:

Hi all, we too have the low stern. Knowing Amel do nothing without good reason and they build this model for many years without changing the waterline I wondered if they expected more ground tackle weight in the anchor locker than most of us have or more heavy items stored in the bow lockers?.
Corrosion in the engine room. A friend with a SM asked me how come my engine room is so free of corrosion and rust and his was so bad. The answer is WD40 or in NZ, CRC 556
Spray it regularly and liberally over just about every thing including alternators and electric motors. Makes a huge difference.
Regards
Danny and Yvonne
SM299 Ocean Pearl
Mangonui New Zealand
--- On Mon, 23/5/11, Chris Smither <yachtakwaaba@> wrote:

From: Chris Smither <yachtakwaaba@>
Subject: Re: [Amel] Amel Orange Boot Stripe
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Monday, 23, May, 2011, 8:57 AM



Bill,
Once we moved onto our Amel as "liveaboards" we raised the antifoul to meet the stripe......after doing it we were told by others that this was a certain sign of "liveaboards"
Now that we have decided to stay in Phuket, and do no more ocean crossings.....at the next haulout I was thinking of re-adjusting the waterline......say no more!!
Glad to see that your move from the Maldives to the Med went well.

All the Best

Mike
Akwaaba
SN 027

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From: Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Amel Orange Boot Stripe


Eric, I was tempted to raise the antifouling paint to meet the stripe to solve the same issue, but I believe that BeBe will begin to loose weight now that we are in the Med...we'll see.

Best,

Bill
BeBe, Sm2k, #387
Currently Marmaris, Turkey

--- In amelyachtowners@..., kimberlite <kimberlite@> wrote:

Bill,

I noticed a few weeks ago that the boot stripe area in the stern had marine
growth. The yard recommended that I raise the waterline as the stern is
lower in the water than the stripe.

Did you or any other owner raise the stripe?

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Judy and Bill aboard
SV BeBe
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 2:41 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel] Amel Orange Boot Stripe





We are in Marmaris, Turkey and just had the boot stripe renewed using a two
part paint matched to Amel orange.

We have purchased the paint twice and have paint, hardener and thinner
available for any Amel owner in the area to pick up.

Contact us at svbebe"at"gmail.com or Turkey cell at +90535-082-2191.

Bill
s/v BeBe, SM2k, #387
Currently Marmaris, Turkey















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Re: [Amel] Re: HF Radio

Chris Smither <yachtakwaaba@...>
 

Conn,
       On our Santorin we have both SSB/Sailmail and Inmarsat C, both were useful, but once we decided to stay in Thailand, I cancelled both Sailmail and Satcom. We can still get the local SSB nets and that is fine for us. I agree with Bill, the satcom was essential in the long pacific leg, particularly when we had to go to the help of another yacht. If Sailmail has a transmitter in the Marquesas, then it might be OK for the leg from the Galapagos to Nuka Hiva. Also the "ocean nets" are very good as they give you actual weather from yachts ahead of you - most of the other forecasts are area forecasts, and can be, at times, dramatically wrong.

   However, I would add one warning, do NOT rely on the 2182 "emergency" channel on SSB to summon assistance....ther just are not many wireless operators out there listening any more. So you must have some other means of putting out a "MAYDAY" with some assurance that it will be heard.....transmission does not always mean reception.
   EPIRB's are very efficient.  In the one case where we were personally involved, by the time I had sent a satcom fax to UK, telling of an abandonment in mid Pacific, as the fax was running off the printer, the UKMRCC was on the phone saying that an EPIRB had been activated at xx Lat and yy Long and the NZMRCC had the call and it was registered in UK to this address and phone number.
   That was within 30 minutes of activation. The crew had been calling on 2182 for nearly an hour, including in the "silonce" period.
   Don't know about satphones, but I guess they will have some form of emergency system.

MIke & Chris
SN 027 Akwaaba



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From: Conn Williamson <connwilliamson@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 4:30 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Re: HF Radio


 
Thanks again for that info Tom / Bill. That's pretty much what I thought. Is HF the same SSB?. I think we ozzies call it HF.I had an old cb radio years ago with upper & lower side band which we called ssb.
 My rigger who is extremly well known in Brisbane for being the best around, suggested doing away with the antenna system, which is still installed on our boat, because of the extra expense involved in the rigging, when he replaces the tridadic and back stays. We don't have an HF unit in the boat at the minute.
 
Bill, we follow you on facebook
 
Thanks again
Conn
--- On Wed, 25/5/11, Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@...> wrote:

From: Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@...>
Subject: [Amel] Re: HF Radio
To: amelyachtowners@...
Received: Wednesday, 25 May, 2011, 9:28 AM

 

Conn,

OUR EXPERIENCE:
We are 2/3rds or more away around beginning in the Caribbean and currently in Marmaris. We have HF, a Pator3 modem, winlink and sailmail. Hen not near civilization we used the HF for email communication and downloaded weather information. When near civilization we used WiFi and/or 3G modem. We seem to be using the 3G modem about 60% of the time recently.

When crossing the Pacific from Galapagos to French Polynesia we found a large hole in sailmail stations until we got closer to the Marquesas where sailmail has installed a new station at Manahi.

However, while making passages around the world, some of our best information came from informal Nets that included cruisers ahead of us as well as some behind us. You cannot duplicate these daily meetings on sat phones for lots of reasons, but one is that sat phone to sat phone calls can be very expensive. I have seen some as high as $14/min.

We have a sat phone for emergencies and only pay for airtime when used. I do not believe you can write a contract like that anymore. We did not use it for 2 years, but when crossing the Bay of Bengal, we encountered an un-forecasted LO which was fairly violent. We were unable to get weather information (grib files) that recorded this LO, but we were being hit with 45kt winds...we used the sat phone to call Commander's Weather who was able to give us the position of the LO, allowing us to plot a course out of it.

MY COMMENTS/ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION:
Your rigger is absolutely correct if you only analyze the situation from his perspective...the additional cost of the rigging could buy you lots of minutes for your sat phone...does he also sell sat phones?

If you currently have HF, you may want to look at an HF halyard antenna to replace your rigging antenna...it will not be as good, but will probably suffice.

If you do not have HF and you do not want 2-way communication with fellow cruisers on passages, then your rigger is probably correct. With the money you will save from not purchasing and rigging HF, you can buy a lot of sat phone minutes.

BTW, out of 20 yachts crossing from Galapagos to French Polynesia with us in 2008, only one did not have a HF transceiver, and he had a HF receiver.

Best,

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387
Currently Marmaris, Turkey

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "Conn" <connwilliamson@...> wrote:

I am going to get some standing rigging replaced on our Mongo. We are intending to cruise the Pacific in the next few years. My Rigger suggested to do away with the HF aerial system on the tridadic and back stays, saying that HF is outdated. What do Amel owners that are cruising full time think of this. HF or Sat phone?.

Cheers to all...Conn.. Jasmyn #28
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Re: Onan genset starting problems

svsummerlove <svsummerlove@...>
 

Hi Pat,

If it were up to me, I'd always put a properly sized breaker on the distribution side of the circuit to protect the wiring (i.e. the fire hazard). A GFI outlet will work, but is primarily intended to trip anytime it senses the presence of a path to ground to prevent shock to a person. Usually, they are only used where there's a reasonable chance a person could provide that path, such as through the copper plumbing of a bathroom or kitchen. In other words, you wouldn't wire an entire house with GFI outlets to eliminate the need for breakers on the main breaker panel, but you could use a GFI breaker in the panel to feed all the outlets for added personal hazard protection.

How do you have your inverter wired to the 110 VAC receptacles? For example, Amel wires the 220 VAC receptacles from the inverter through the breaker on the 220VAC panel.

Steve
SM340
Summer Love

--- In amelyachtowners@..., sailw32@... wrote:

Steve, Last week I was down below when a lot of smoke poured from the
starboard lockers. I found the power supply cord to the tv fried. The inverter
was on supplying 110v. the tv was off ,I guess the cord or tv had a short. I
just put a gfi outlet to supply power in the future . Is that protection
enough or should I fuse the power cord as well. I am very glad I was onboard to
shut the power off.No other wiring was burnt. I think the tv that are built
today always have current to them provided there is a power source even when
the power is turned off. Thanks Pat

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