Hi Bob,

I also own a Santorin (1992) "Kavanga" and updated the propane system
recently. A friend made for me a stainless steel locker for 2 aluminium
propane bottles (6 kg propane each). The locker is situated in the rear
locker (where also the old small locker was situated) with the long side
against the bulhead and the head of the propane locker close to the starbord
side wooden construction. The locker is about 0,5 metre from the bottom on a
support. There is also a hose from the starbord rear side of the bottom of
the locker to the corner of the last step of the stern with a vent fitting..
I also installed a solenoid (Trident bought from West Marine) with a control
panel. Installation was straight forward: I pulled 1 wire throufh the pipe
from the locker leading to the charting area,. From there 50 cm back through
the second pipe leading to the corner of the corridor area.. The most
difficult part was to direct the wire through the pipe leading to the
overhead cable area close to the galley. I installed the conrol panel
adjacent to the AC panel on the aft bulkhead on the port side. The power
connection was fixed through one of the circuitbreakers of the DC panel.
So I ended with a switch on the control panel that gives a green light as
power is on the wire in the rear locker. To connect the solenoid at the low
pressure side of the regulator in the propane locker is easy.

I installed the new propane system in June and after a vacation of 6 weeks
to Norway I am still on the first propane bottle of 6 kg.

Best Regards,

Willem J. Kroes
Amel Santorin "Kavanga"
home port: Zaandam, The Netherlands

I am about to purchase new anchor chain in the States to ship down to
my 9 year old SM in the Caribbean. M. Selo says 8mm was installed
when the boat was purchased. This is approximately 5/16" I believe.
I know link sizes are different between BBB & High Test. Any
suggestions?

Arnold Grubin

Based on a pre-purchase marine survey of my recently acquired 1993
Santorin, and a resulting requirment from my insurance company, I
have been asked to update its propane system. It presently has a
sealed propane locker but no solenoid at the propane tank and an
intermediate valve in the galley. The requirement is to add a
solenoid, to add a pressure test valve, and make the hose continuous
from the solenoid to the flex that feeds the stove. Does anyone
have experience or insights to share with me regarding the "right"
and easiest way to do this? Is it difficult to remove and replace
the existing feed with a continuous one? Thanks, Bob on Hanalei.

Ok, this isn't specific to Amels, but we're all sailors so I thought
everyone would be interested!

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SM "Spice"

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Hi Stephan,
The stuff we used was bought Down Under and was called Knead-it. The
Evercote Everfix Epoxy Stick listed in Westmarines catalogue must be the
same. WM say "Handles like modelling clay, bonds like epoxy and hardens
like steel in 20 minutes".
It does and it was still perfect when we got rid of the Oyster five years
later!!
Best wishes Anne and John Bali Hai SM 319

Anne and John,

Thank you so much! I actually had to try this twice since my tube of
epoxy was old and would not set up even after 30 hrs. I cleaned it
off and replaced with Marine Tex grey which set up nicely in about 6
hours.

Next question: how long did this repair work for you? I am
cautiously using the head now and nervous about wether the bonding
will survive bouncing around in heavy seas.

Note to other SM owners: the aft head fiberglass pan has two holes
in it in the vacinity of the ball valve. If any of the holding-tank
plumbing leaks, the waste goes down these holes and then has be
cleaned out from UNDER the shower pan (yuck!!). I used plumber's
putty to seal the hole for the tube from the macerater and adhesive-
backed foam to seal the cover plate for the access hole. For me,
this was closing the barn door after the horse was out . . . but for
some of you . . .

Stephan
Delos (SMM #303)

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As the ex-owners of a very leaky Oyster we have lots of experience in this
area. Get some waterproof epoxy which comes in a clear plastic tube about
one inch in diameter. Sand the affected area to form a key and knead some
of the epoxy which then is like plasticene. Mould it around the leaky area
and problem solved.

Regards from Anne and John Bali Hai SM319

Windslow now offers this feature on new purchases. I am not sure if
they offer this on existing liferafts, but you can call them and find
out.

Vito

Wanderer

ASM#283

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Stephan Regulinski"
<stephreg@y...> wrote:

How did you get it vacuum packed?

Stephan
Delos (SMM #303)


--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, asm283 <no_reply@y...>

wrote:

Hi All

After some research on life rafts, I found that the best solution

for

my particular needs was a windlow 6 Man offshore unit for the
following reasons.

1-It is consistently rated #1 by the sailing publications.

2-It weighs about 75 lbs in the soft case. Enabling most crew

members

to lift it out of the liferaft locker and deploy.

3-The life raft can be vacum packed (making it even smaller).

This

extends your service time to at least 3 years and on a passage it

can

be stores on deck without worry of water intrusion. Also you can

use

most of the storage space unserneath the life raft locker.

4-Windslow was a good company to deal with. If you take into
consideration what you get and the money you save by servicing

every

3 years the price is not too bad.

Vito Ciaravino
Wanderer #283

How did you get it vacuum packed?

Stephan
Delos (SMM #303)


--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, asm283 <no_reply@y...> wrote:

Hi All

After some research on life rafts, I found that the best solution

for

my particular needs was a windlow 6 Man offshore unit for the
following reasons.

1-It is consistently rated #1 by the sailing publications.

2-It weighs about 75 lbs in the soft case. Enabling most crew

members

to lift it out of the liferaft locker and deploy.

3-The life raft can be vacum packed (making it even smaller). This
extends your service time to at least 3 years and on a passage it

can

be stores on deck without worry of water intrusion. Also you can

use

most of the storage space unserneath the life raft locker.

4-Windslow was a good company to deal with. If you take into
consideration what you get and the money you save by servicing

every

3 years the price is not too bad.

Vito Ciaravino
Wanderer #283

Hi All

After some research on life rafts, I found that the best solution for
my particular needs was a windlow 6 Man offshore unit for the
following reasons.

1-It is consistently rated #1 by the sailing publications.

2-It weighs about 75 lbs in the soft case. Enabling most crew members
to lift it out of the liferaft locker and deploy.

3-The life raft can be vacum packed (making it even smaller). This
extends your service time to at least 3 years and on a passage it can
be stores on deck without worry of water intrusion. Also you can use
most of the storage space unserneath the life raft locker.

4-Windslow was a good company to deal with. If you take into
consideration what you get and the money you save by servicing every
3 years the price is not too bad.

Vito Ciaravino
Wanderer #283

what do you do about small dings in the interior where i have
dropped things on the varnished surfaces?
thanks
eric
sm 376 kimberlite



--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Mike Gough <mahili_au@y...>
wrote:

Hi Delores,

We share a similar problem, our Maramu is 19 years old and some of

the interior needs attention. I am sorry I cannot answer your
questions except to say that varnish is probably not the way to go.
A furniture manufacturer could point you in the right direction,

Regs,
Mike Gough

stargazer41amel <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Has anyone attempted to varnish over or repair the original

factory

applied varnish? I understand from the Amel factory that the

varnish

is a sprayed 2 part polyurethane finish. It is very hard finish

and

has held up well for the 16 year old vessel we have. But there

are

areas that need repairing and I am really concerned how difficult

it

is to deal with the existing finish. I was able to refinish the
floors, exterior trims and interior steps beautifully but they had

a

different varnish finish. Any knowledgable help in this area will

be

greatly appreciated. Delores Carter


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Hi Delores,

We share a similar problem, our Maramu is 19 years old and some of the interior needs attention. I am sorry I cannot answer your questions except to say that varnish is probably not the way to go. A furniture manufacturer could point you in the right direction,

Regs,
Mike Gough

stargazer41amel <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Has anyone attempted to varnish over or repair the original factory
applied varnish? I understand from the Amel factory that the varnish
is a sprayed 2 part polyurethane finish. It is very hard finish and
has held up well for the 16 year old vessel we have. But there are
areas that need repairing and I am really concerned how difficult it
is to deal with the existing finish. I was able to refinish the
floors, exterior trims and interior steps beautifully but they had a
different varnish finish. Any knowledgable help in this area will be
greatly appreciated. Delores Carter


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Does anyone have any experience repairing a holding tank? On my SMM
the aft tank has developed a leak in the copper exit tube glassed
into the tank. (A white 1.5 inch hose connect this tube to the ball
valve at the hull.) A small crack has appeared at the edge of the
fibreglass on the outside . . . viewable only with a mirror! (ugh!)

Stephan
Delos (SMM #303)

thanks for the bolt idea.

with respect to life rafts.
i was concerned about water getting into the locker and rotting the
raft.
I made a grid of 2x4 in the bottom of the locker to keep all the
emergency stuff hi and dry.
fair winds,
eric
'


--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "John Martin"
<jjmartin24@h...> wrote:

To Eric on Kimberlite - To make your companionway door "quick

opening and closing", screw a sliding barrel bolt under the 2x4
board on top of the hatch. Place the receiving end on the
bulkhead. If you grind off the locking part of the bolt it makes it
easier to slide the bolt in place. You really don't need to the
lock the sliding bolt as you're only using it to hold the hatch up.

On liferafts - when the previous owner of my boat had the life

raft serviced they put the lifting handle on the opposite end of the
pull ring of the raft, thus the pull ring end sat on the locker
floor. Consequently in one year with a little moisture in the
bottom of the locker the entire aluminum pull ring had
disintegrated, and the moisture had ruined the cannister inside. I
had the unit serviced and the lifting handle put on the same UP side
as the pull ring. I also put a heavy duty rubber mat (like a front
door mat) in the bottom of the locker so the raft would not sit
directly on any water that might be on the bottom of the locker. I
now also open the locker now and then on a hot day to air the
compartment out.

Also on liferafts - I was on Vito's "Wanderer" (AMS 283) the other

day and he was showing me his new vacuum packed 6-man raft. It only
needs to be serviced every 5 years and it is so light that one man
can pick it up. Perfect for the Amel owner with deep pockets !

Regards

John Martin
SM 248 "Moon Dog"

The Avon 8 person liferaft on my last boat was OK when serviced at 12 years
in Fiji but the top tube was full of tiny leaks when it was tested in
Australia. My current raft is a six person model in a GRP box mounted in a
quick release cradle on the back of the pushpit.
I had the port side of the pushpit altered as I did not like the huge
opening to allow a rubber dinghy to be easily fitted into he lazarette as
we have a 3.1 metre aluminium RIB which only weighs 37 kilos. We believe
that an 8 person raft is too big and too heavy. We also believe in
visiting the raft service centre to see the raft inflated and how it works!

Regards from Anne and John Hollamby, Bali Hai SM 319 in
Turkey

To Eric on Kimberlite - To make your companionway door "quick opening and closing", screw a sliding barrel bolt under the 2x4 board on top of the hatch. Place the receiving end on the bulkhead. If you grind off the locking part of the bolt it makes it easier to slide the bolt in place. You really don't need to the lock the sliding bolt as you're only using it to hold the hatch up.

On liferafts - when the previous owner of my boat had the life raft serviced they put the lifting handle on the opposite end of the pull ring of the raft, thus the pull ring end sat on the locker floor. Consequently in one year with a little moisture in the bottom of the locker the entire aluminum pull ring had disintegrated, and the moisture had ruined the cannister inside. I had the unit serviced and the lifting handle put on the same UP side as the pull ring. I also put a heavy duty rubber mat (like a front door mat) in the bottom of the locker so the raft would not sit directly on any water that might be on the bottom of the locker. I now also open the locker now and then on a hot day to air the compartment out.

Also on liferafts - I was on Vito's "Wanderer" (AMS 283) the other day and he was showing me his new vacuum packed 6-man raft. It only needs to be serviced every 5 years and it is so light that one man can pick it up. Perfect for the Amel owner with deep pockets !

Regards

John Martin
SM 248 "Moon Dog"

I have my 3 year old, hardly used, spi for the super maramu for sale
- asymmetrical, 144 m2, white
- made by GATEFF, France
- incl. spi sock
- location: South of France or the Netherlands
- price EURO 2950 ( = 50% of the new price )

Pls send reactions by email

Hans Tijssen
"Tishuit"
sm 120

Dear all

I just got a 1450 Sq. Ft. asymmetric spinnaker and would like to ear
from members who have installed (or contemplated installing) a
permanent or removable outrigger. Thanks

GalacSea

hi,
did you have a chance to take those photos?
thanks
eric



--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, stargazer41amel
<no_reply@y...> wrote:

I will get pics taken. Give me until Monday to post on website as

I

have had a death in family and will not be back to boat until

then.

BTW, I do custom canvas for boaters as a business and I have made
many canvas doors, many ways through the years. Mine is attached
with snaps but I am going to change that as guests tend to pull

the

canvas door too hard and unsnap it. I will use a slide track with

a

bolt rope. Easy enough change. Should have designed it that way

to

start with. What is great about the door is that I can just roll

it

up and tuck it at the base of the dodger and it's out of the way.

Delores
s/v Stargazer
41' Sharki

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, kimberlite1212
<no_reply@y...> wrote:

dolores,
i would love to see a few photos especially the attachment point.
fair winds,
eric
s/v Kimberlite

kimberlt@o...


--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, stargazer41amel
<no_reply@y...> wrote:

Yep, I sewed a great canvas door with an oval window in it. I
attached the canvas to the fiberglass at the forward end of

the

sliding hatch. I placed a sail batten inside the canvas at

the

aft

end of the sliding hatch to hold the fabric up so the sliding

hatch

could also stay open. I also sewed in insulating material

(winter

coat lining) to retain my heat & A/C inside the boat. It

works

great! And all I have to do is lift the canvas out of the

way.

Much

better than constantly sliding opening the hatch and the door

a

hundred times a day! I even incorporated a zip-in no-see-um

screen

for the days I don't need to worry about heat or A/C being on.

If

you

need a pic, let me know!
Delores
s/v Stargazer
41' Sharki

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, kimberlite1212
<no_reply@y...> wrote:

Has anyone figured out a way to close the companionway hatch

without

using the knobs.
when we are at a dock with the air conditioner on. it seems

i

am

opening and closing these knobs a lot while company comes

and

goes.

aqny good ideas?
thanks
eric

Hi Mr. McCarthy,

Don't know anything specific, good or bad, about this brand of raft.
However, most reputable life raft service companies that I am familiar with
won't repack a raft that is older than ten years. Seems the material used
to make them degrades and losses strength over the years.

Hope this helps.

Regards,
Joel F. Potter
SUPER MARAMU #400 "MARY BROWN"