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Re: [Amel] Dessalator High Pressure Pump

Anne and John Hollamby <annejohnholl@...>
 

Hello Bill,
The best advice I can give you is to get in touch with Martin the Agent for Dessalator in Spain. I think he is British and a great expert who will advise you by phone or Email by return. I set out his latest advice to me following his advice to take the head off!
Good luck, Anne and John, SM 319, Bali Hai

Hello John.

You will have to run the electric motor of the high-pressure pump with out any water being feeds to the low-pressure pump, you can do this for a few minutes just to see if the high-pressure motor does not run badly.
So you can see the piston pump move.
After that you will have to see the inside of the head to find out if there is a mechanical blockage in the valves that could be scale if this is the case the best thing to do is replace the pipe from the filter to the intake of the high-pressure pump.

Keep me informed Martin.............
"DESSALATOR" 9.000 máquinas en servicio por todo el mundo, 30 años de experiencia.
Elegido por los astilleros: Amel, Bénéteau, Jeanneau, Wauquiez, X-Yachts, Alliaura, Outremer, Switch, Dufour, Doqueve...
Teléfono oficina: (0034) 96 577 19 88

web site: www.dessalator.com
Hello my name is Martin from Dessalator Spain, if posible phone me at 0034965771988 or mobil 0034637890333 or 0033607346511 you can do this even saterday end sunday,
All the best Martin...........


"DESSALATOR" 9.000 máquinas en servicio por todo el mundo, 30 años de experiencia.
Elegido por los astilleros: Amel, Bénéteau, Jeanneau, Wauquiez, X-Yachts, Alliaura, Outremer, Switch, Dufour, Doqueve...
Teléfono oficina: (0034) 96 577 19 88
web site: www.dessalator.com

----- Original Message -----
From: Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 7:26 AM
Subject: [Amel] Dessalator High Pressure Pump



Had the Dessalator 160 liter water maker serviced/checked in Marmaris, Turkey. We left Turkey and then ran the water maker for 1 hour and it quit because the Turkey serviceman forgot to tighten the high pressure pump head bolts. Unfortunately, we are in Greece now, so I will probably have to hire a Greek to undo, repair and redo what the Turkey did.

I think the high pressure pump probably ran dry for about 10 minutes before I noticed the problem. The two head bolts were loose (not the other 4 head bolts). I removed the head and inspected. The ceramic pistons "looked" OK and the piston seals "looked" OK. I took the opportunity to clean things up and re-bolted the head. Tried it, still not getting high pressure.

Any suggestions would be appreciated. We are in Samos, Greece headed for the Athens area.

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387
Currently Samos, Greece





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Re: [Amel] (unknown)

jlm@jlmertz.fr
 

merci
jluc

Le 04/06/2011 09:25, georges pellegrini a crit :

Sorry I can't help. Have a Santorin.
dsol.

Georges Pellegrini





On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 8:26 PM, Jean-Luc MERTZ<jlm@jlmertz.fr> wrote:


A Super Maramu 2000
merci
Jean-Luc
sm316
Cottonbay
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Le 03/06/2011 14:16, Richard03801 a crit :

Which model boat to u have.

Regards SM 209 for sale in Annapolis.

Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

"brokerage beyond your expectations"

On Jun 3, 2011, at 7:53, Jean-Luc MERTZ<jlm@jlmertz.fr
<mailto:jlm%40jlmertz.fr>> wrote:

I am currently remaking the plexiglass windshields _port side_.
Taking the measure I have forgotten to note the direction (inside /
outside).
To solve my problem cansome one, that is currently on his boat, tell me
witch of the 4 or 6 windshields corners have an_interior angle__greater
than 90 ___.
Merci,
JLuc
CottonBay






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Re: [Amel] (unknown)

georges
 

Sorry I can't help. Have a Santorin.
dsol.

Georges Pellegrini

On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 8:26 PM, Jean-Luc MERTZ <jlm@jlmertz.fr> wrote:



A Super Maramu 2000
merci
Jean-Luc
sm316
Cottonbay
----------------------------------------------------------

Le 03/06/2011 14:16, Richard03801 a crit :


Which model boat to u have.

Regards SM 209 for sale in Annapolis.

Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

"brokerage beyond your expectations"

On Jun 3, 2011, at 7:53, Jean-Luc MERTZ <jlm@jlmertz.fr
<mailto:jlm%40jlmertz.fr>> wrote:

I am currently remaking the plexiglass windshields _port side_.
Taking the measure I have forgotten to note the direction (inside /
outside).
To solve my problem cansome one, that is currently on his boat, tell me
witch of the 4 or 6 windshields corners have an_interior angle__greater
than 90 ___.
Merci,
JLuc
CottonBay









Dessalator High Pressure Pump

Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Had the Dessalator 160 liter water maker serviced/checked in Marmaris, Turkey. We left Turkey and then ran the water maker for 1 hour and it quit because the Turkey serviceman forgot to tighten the high pressure pump head bolts. Unfortunately, we are in Greece now, so I will probably have to hire a Greek to undo, repair and redo what the Turkey did.

I think the high pressure pump probably ran dry for about 10 minutes before I noticed the problem. The two head bolts were loose (not the other 4 head bolts). I removed the head and inspected. The ceramic pistons "looked" OK and the piston seals "looked" OK. I took the opportunity to clean things up and re-bolted the head. Tried it, still not getting high pressure.

Any suggestions would be appreciated. We are in Samos, Greece headed for the Athens area.

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387
Currently Samos, Greece


Re: [Amel] (unknown)

jlm@jlmertz.fr
 

A Super Maramu 2000
Merci
Jean-Luc
CottonBay
SM316
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Le 03/06/2011 17:11, georges pellegrini a écrit :
What is the boat model?

On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Jean-Luc MERTZ<jlm@jlmertz.fr> wrote:


I am currently remaking the plexiglass windshields _port side_.
Taking the measure I have forgotten to note the direction (inside /
outside).
To solve my problem cansome one, that is currently on his boat, tell me
witch of the 4 or 6 windshields corners have an_interior angle__greater
than 90 __°_.
Merci,
JLuc
CottonBay

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Re: [Amel] (unknown)

jlm@jlmertz.fr
 

A Super Maramu 2000
merci
Jean-Luc
sm316
Cottonbay
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Le 03/06/2011 14:16, Richard03801 a écrit :

Which model boat to u have.

Regards SM 209 for sale in Annapolis.

Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

"brokerage beyond your expectations"

On Jun 3, 2011, at 7:53, Jean-Luc MERTZ <jlm@jlmertz.fr
<mailto:jlm%40jlmertz.fr>> wrote:

I am currently remaking the plexiglass windshields _port side_.
Taking the measure I have forgotten to note the direction (inside /
outside).
To solve my problem cansome one, that is currently on his boat, tell me
witch of the 4 or 6 windshields corners have an_interior angle__greater
than 90 __°_.
Merci,
JLuc
CottonBay

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Re: [Amel] (unknown)

georges
 

What is the boat model?

On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Jean-Luc MERTZ <jlm@jlmertz.fr> wrote:



I am currently remaking the plexiglass windshields _port side_.
Taking the measure I have forgotten to note the direction (inside /
outside).
To solve my problem cansome one, that is currently on his boat, tell me
witch of the 4 or 6 windshields corners have an_interior angle__greater
than 90 ___.
Merci,
JLuc
CottonBay

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Re: [Amel] (unknown)

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

Which model boat to u have.

Regards SM 209 for sale in Annapolis.

Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

"brokerage beyond your expectations"

On Jun 3, 2011, at 7:53, Jean-Luc MERTZ <jlm@jlmertz.fr> wrote:

I am currently remaking the plexiglass windshields _port side_.
Taking the measure I have forgotten to note the direction (inside /
outside).
To solve my problem cansome one, that is currently on his boat, tell me
witch of the 4 or 6 windshields corners have an_interior angle__greater
than 90 __°_.
Merci,
JLuc
CottonBay

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(No subject)

jlm@jlmertz.fr
 

I am currently remaking the plexiglass windshields _port side_.
Taking the measure I have forgotten to note the direction (inside /
outside).
To solve my problem cansome one, that is currently on his boat, tell me
witch of the 4 or 6 windshields corners have an_interior angle__greater
than 90 __°_.
Merci,
JLuc
CottonBay


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[Amel] Re: SM 93 Ballooner sails & Amel Electronic Manual

Mark Hayden
 

Hi Paul,

I'm sorry you're having trouble downloading the file. Using a computer account I have in the US, I tried downloading using the link just now and it seems to work. Perhaps there was a temporary problem and it will work if you try starting from scratch again? I know for many of us it can be hard to download large files... we are in Fiji and it was some work to get it to a place others could access.

If someone has a suggestion on a better place to put the file, I'd be happy to give it a try.

best, Mark

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Paul LaFrance <pflafrance@...> wrote:


Mark
When we went to the site as indicated for the compressed files it was indicating that it was corrupted. The same message came up when we tried to access under the Amel site, Links as well. We would also like to download same.

Paul & Sue LaFrance
SSV NOMAD SM 362, Currently in Bristol, RI, USA




To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
From: uster@...
Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 05:48:52 -0700
Subject: Re: [Amel] Re: SM 93 Ballooner sails & Amel Electronic Manual






Thank you so much!

--- On Mon, 5/23/11, Mark <markghayden@...> wrote:

From: Mark <markghayden@...>
Subject: [Amel] Re: SM 93 Ballooner sails & Amel Electronic Manual
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, May 23, 2011, 5:54 AM



I've posted a link to a ZIP file containing scans for just about all the documents that came with our SM2K # 331. Look under the Links folder for the Amel group for "Amel SM2K Scanned Manuals", or use the link below.

Obviously, some of these are specific to our boat but many should be common to similar hulls. When the same information was available in multiple languages, we only scanned the English version.

Given the Yahoo Groups space limitations, I've posted this under a separate service. Let me know if you have any problems downloading the file. You can reach me directly at markghayden _AT_ yahoo.com

As I said in an earlier email, these are quite handy to have on your laptop and we have found them useful to put on our iPad via the iBooks app. Just go to iTunes, select File -> Add to Library for each folder. Then select Books for your device and select Sync Books -> All Books.

best, Mark

http://c575268.r68.cf2.rackcdn.com/Manuals.zip

./Amel/AmelBalloonerInstructions.pdf
./Amel/AmelBowThruster.pdf
./Amel/AmelContacts.pdf
./Amel/AmelSailMaintenance.pdf
./Amel/AmelSchemaCommandePuissPropulseur.pdf
./Amel/AmelSM2K.pdf
./Amel/AmelSM2KElectricalSystem.pdf
./Amel/AmelSM2KFluidSystems.pdf
./Amel/AmelWinterService.pdf
./Amel/DouaneEuropeanAgents.pdf
./Amel/Drawings/Drawing_10_Deck_Join.pdf
./Amel/Drawings/Drawing_11_Compartments.pdf
./Amel/Drawings/Drawing_12_Main_Mast.pdf
./Amel/Drawings/Drawing_13_Propeller_Shaft.pdf
./Amel/Drawings/Drawing_1_Layout.pdf
./Amel/Drawings/Drawing_2_Layout.pdf
./Amel/Drawings/Drawing_3_Rudder.pdf
./Amel/Drawings/Drawing_4_Construction.pdf
./Amel/Drawings/Drawing_5_Cross_Section.pdf
./Amel/Drawings/Drawing_6_Engine_Room.pdf
./Amel/Drawings/Drawing_7_Fuel_Tank.pdf
./Amel/Drawings/Drawing_8_Battery.pdf
./Amel/Drawings/Drawing_9_Butane.pdf
./Appliance/AirConditionerWaterPump.pdf
./Appliance/BerkertFluidControlSwitch.pdf
./Appliance/CasaforteSafe.pdf
./Appliance/ClimmaAirConditioner.pdf
./Appliance/EnoStove.pdf
./Appliance/EumeniaDishWasher.pdf
./Appliance/FrigoboatAV35FRefrigerator.pdf
./Appliance/OmnimaxTVAntennae.pdf
./Appliance/ThomsonWashingMachine.pdf
./Appliance/ThomsonWashingMachineFrench.pdf
./Dinghy/Parts Catalog M8B-9.8B (2003) - (00221030-5).pdf
./Dinghy/TohatsuOutboard.pdf
./Drive/BajaFuelFilter.pdf
./Drive/BruntonAutoprop.pdf
./Drive/JabscoBlower.pdf
./Drive/Yanmar_4JH3_Overhaul_Service_Manual.pdf
./Drive/Yanmar_4JH3_T_series_Op_Manual.pdf
./Drive/YanmarDieselEngine.pdf
./Drive/ZFMarineTransmission.pdf
./Electrical/BatteryMonitor.pdf
./Electrical/MDKAL-ServiceParts.pdf
./Electrical/Onan-mdkBl-manual.pdf
./Electrical/OnanMDKALOperatorsManual.pdf
./Electrical/Sailor24To12VoltReg.pdf
./Electrical/SentryBatteryChargers.pdf
./GroundTackle/FortressAnchor.pdf
./GroundTackle/LofransTigresWindlass.pdf
./GroundTackle/PochonChainCounter_French.pdf
./Head/JabscoElectricToilet.pdf
./Head/JabscoElectricToiletConversion.pdf
./Misc/RadioShackThermometer.pdf
./Navigation/BrookesAndGatehouse/B&GSonicSpeedExtra.pdf
./Navigation/BrookesAndGatehouse/B&GSonicSpeedInstall.pdf
./Navigation/BrookesAndGatehouse/B&GSonicSpeedInstallDocPack.pdf
./Navigation/BrookesAndGatehouse/B&GSonicSpeedUser.pdf
./Navigation/Hydra2000.pdf
./Navigation/PlastimoCompass.pdf
./Safety/ACR_EPIRB.pdf
./Safety/DavisRadarReflector.pdf
./Safety/EdsonManualPump.pdf
./Safety/HendersonManualBilgePump.pdf
./Safety/HorizonVHFRadio.pdf
./Safety/IcomVHFRadio.pdf
./Safety/KatadynSurvivorWaterMaker.pdf
./Safety/LifeSling.pdf
./Safety/RapidFireStrobe.pdf
./Safety/WorldClassPFD_38AHAR.pdf
./Safety/WorldClassPFD_38AS-HAR.pdf
./Safety/ZodiacLiferaftEnglish.pdf
./Water/DessalatorWaterMaker.pdf
./Water/FEITFreshWaterPump.pdf
./Water/GroheShowerControl.pdf
./Water/JabscoWaterAccumulator.pdf
./Water/QuickWaterHeater.pdf
./Water/SeagullWaterFilter.pdf
./Water/WaterPumpLocationPurposeUnknown.pdf
./Winch/LewmarElectricWinch.pdf
./Winch/LewmarWinchAdjust.pdf

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, ldesalvo@ wrote:

Hello Mark,
If you post these files I woould also love to know where to find them.
Jim and Linda on "LIEBLING" SM #207
Currentely in La Paz, Mexico.

---- Original Message ----
From: markghayden@
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Re: SM 93 Ballooner sails & Amel Electronic Manual
Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 19:10:56 -0000

Last year, we scanned the manuals for all the systems, including the
Amel documents and schematics and posted a link to an external site
where others could download them. I don't know if anyone did and the
site I put them doesn't exist anymore. Let me know if there is
interest and I can find another place to host the files. We put all
the manuals on our laptops and ipad and have found it quite handy to
always have them available. The total scans were about 500MB and we
only scanned English when there were multiple languages.

cheers, Mark
SM2K 331






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Re: [Amel] Re: Amel Orange Boot Stripe and corrosion in engine room

Anne and John Hollamby <annejohnholl@...>
 

Hello Paul,
The addition of more weight in the bow would severly increase the risk of sinking via the bow thruster so Amel's advice seems very suspect. Raising the height of the stripe to that on the bow seems the only sensible answer. I think they may have got it wrong when they increased the overall length in the eighties and nineties thus sinking the stern without redoing the stripe.
Anne and John, SM 319 Bali Hai, in Malta.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul LaFrance" <pflafrance@hotmail.com>
To: <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 7:32 PM
Subject: RE: [Amel] Re: Amel Orange Boot Stripe and corrosion in engine room



Steve
When we where in La Rochelle this past month, I inquired about the boot stripe. They indicated at the factory that the boot stripe was set correctly to begin with and as more options where added to the SM it made the stern sink a little lower. They did not alter the stripe over time time and they agreed that it should possibly have been done with the addition of more weight. We repainted the boot stripe maintaining the bow as original and raised the stern so it was out of the water. (Easier cleaning). We do not have the white part between the anti fouling and boot stripe that was there before. C'est la vie.
Looks great and a number of Amel owners in the Caribbean have noted it.

Paul & Sue LaFrance
SV NOMAD SM 362 currently in Bristol, RI, USA





To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
From: ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com
Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 16:12:08 +0000
Subject: RE: [Amel] Re: Amel Orange Boot Stripe and corrosion in engine room







Hi Steve, All SMs that I know of seem to float stern down, particularly when in cruising load mode. As a result I would take a lot of convincing that Amel have actually painted the orange stripe in the right place all these years. We love Amels dearly ( this is our third ) but stubbornness is one of their virtues. Having spent hours and hours over 9 years, in the water or in the dinghy, cleaning the orange and intermediate white stripe, we decided last year, when we applied Coppercoat antifouling, that enough was enough. We took a deep breath and brought the Coppercoat to the TOP of the orange stripe, adding a new blue stripe above that, with the intermediate white stripe in between. I cannot tell you how pleased we are with the result. Should have done it years ago. The hull looks just right, slightly sleeker, the fact that the Coppercoat ( brown but going very softly green with oxidisation) comes up so high looks right. No more cleaning of that lower part and , an added bonus, noticeably less white hull to clean and polish---and you can do that from the dinghy or dock without getting your polishing rag wet. In our experience you don't need to change the angle, just raise the waterline and add a new coloured strip. Happy painting, Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Ibiza ( where the water temp is 23c but the sea is awash with jellyfish!)

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
From: svsummerlove@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 15:19:54 +0000
Subject: [Amel] Re: Amel Orange Boot Stripe and corrosion in engine room

I would think that intentionally painting the boot stripe at an angle that isn't parallel to the water for marketing purposes is out of character for Capt Henri. If he wanted to "pose" a boat for the marketing literature photo with no anti-fouling paint showing to make it look "dynamic", I believe he was clever enough to artificially load one for that purpose, rather than painting the stripe in the wrong place on 450 boats. Nor do I see him sacrificing function for "eye appeal".

I'm not talking about simply raising the boot stripe 4" so the stern is barely out of the water, and the bow is now 12" out of the water. I'm asking about the consequences of changing the angle of it down the length of the boat so that it's 4" to 8" out of the water all the way to the stern. I've already got 8" of "dry" anti-fouling paint at the bow. I don't need 4 more inches.

Example:

If I want the fiberglass along the waterline to remain free of growth, I have 3 choices:

1. I can leave the boot stripe where it is now, and try to balance the boat with weight distribution so the bow rides 4" lower and the stern 4" higher.

2. I can change only the "location" of the entire boot stripe by raising it 4", so it is now 12" out of the water at the bow, and 4" out at the stern.

3. I can change both the "angle" and the "location" of the boot stripe so it is 4" out of the water along its entire length.

Since the boot stripe of every SM I've seen rides bow high with the stern in the water, it can be assumed that either none of the owners are capable of proper weight distribution, or the boot stripe was painted in the wrong place to begin with.

My concern is that, assuming the naval architect who put it there knew what he was doing and had a good reason for doing it, I don't want to alter the angle of the boot stripe without knowing that reason.

Does anyone know that reason?

Many thanks,

Steve
SM340
Summer Love


--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Richard03801 <richard03801@...> wrote:

In the normal loading for ocean work all the Amel seem to need the water line raised seems the Capt wanted the "sales" appearance to be more dynamic. We too collected an marine forest on the waterline and stern. Grant when healed over cross for days you will get growth on the leeward side as it is under water.

Smooth sailing.

Regards
Richard SM 209 ANNAPOLIS FOR SALE.

"Yacht Brokerage Service above and beyond the expected"

Walczak Yacht Brokerage Service LLC
2 Compromise St
Annapolis, MD 21401

Cell 603 767 5330
Office
Fax

www.Walczakyacht.com

On May 22, 2011, at 17:49, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:

Hi all, we too have the low stern. Knowing Amel do nothing without good reason and they build this model for many years without changing the waterline I wondered if they expected more ground tackle weight in the anchor locker than most of us have or more heavy items stored in the bow lockers?.
Corrosion in the engine room. A friend with a SM asked me how come my engine room is so free of corrosion and rust and his was so bad. The answer is WD40 or in NZ, CRC 556
Spray it regularly and liberally over just about every thing including alternators and electric motors. Makes a huge difference.
Regards
Danny and Yvonne
SM299 Ocean Pearl
Mangonui New Zealand
--- On Mon, 23/5/11, Chris Smither <yachtakwaaba@...> wrote:

From: Chris Smither <yachtakwaaba@...>
Subject: Re: [Amel] Amel Orange Boot Stripe
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Monday, 23, May, 2011, 8:57 AM



Bill,
Once we moved onto our Amel as "liveaboards" we raised the antifoul to meet the stripe......after doing it we were told by others that this was a certain sign of "liveaboards"
Now that we have decided to stay in Phuket, and do no more ocean crossings.....at the next haulout I was thinking of re-adjusting the waterline......say no more!!
Glad to see that your move from the Maldives to the Med went well.

All the Best

Mike
Akwaaba
SN 027

________________________________
From: Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@...>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Amel Orange Boot Stripe


Eric, I was tempted to raise the antifouling paint to meet the stripe to solve the same issue, but I believe that BeBe will begin to loose weight now that we are in the Med...we'll see.

Best,

Bill
BeBe, Sm2k, #387
Currently Marmaris, Turkey

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, kimberlite <kimberlite@> wrote:

Bill,

I noticed a few weeks ago that the boot stripe area in the stern had marine
growth. The yard recommended that I raise the waterline as the stern is
lower in the water than the stripe.

Did you or any other owner raise the stripe?

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





_____

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Judy and Bill aboard
SV BeBe
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 2:41 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Amel Orange Boot Stripe





We are in Marmaris, Turkey and just had the boot stripe renewed using a two
part paint matched to Amel orange.

We have purchased the paint twice and have paint, hardener and thinner
available for any Amel owner in the area to pick up.

Contact us at svbebe"at"gmail.com or Turkey cell at +90535-082-2191.

Bill
s/v BeBe, SM2k, #387
Currently Marmaris, Turkey











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Re: [Amel] Re: Amel Orange Boot Stripe and corrosion in engine room

Eric Freedman
 

Hi,
could you post a photo of your new boot stripe?
fair winds
eric
Kimberlite #376

----- Original Message -----
From: Paul LaFrance
Date: Thursday, June 2, 2011 1:32 pm
Subject: RE: [Amel] Re: Amel Orange Boot Stripe and corrosion in engine room
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com


Steve
When we where in La Rochelle this past month, I inquired about
the boot stripe. They indicated at the factory that the boot
stripe was set correctly to begin with and as more options where
added to the SM it made the stern sink a little lower. They did
not alter the stripe over time time and they agreed that it
should possibly have been done with the addition of more weight.
We repainted the boot stripe maintaining the bow as original and
raised the stern so it was out of the water. (Easier cleaning).
We do not have the white part between the anti fouling and boot
stripe that was there before. C'est la vie.
Looks great and a number of Amel owners in the Caribbean have
noted it.

Paul & Sue LaFrance
SV NOMAD SM 362 currently in Bristol, RI, USA





To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
From: ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com
Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 16:12:08 +0000
Subject: RE: [Amel] Re: Amel Orange Boot Stripe and corrosion in
engine room







Hi Steve, All SMs that I know of seem to float stern down,
particularly when in cruising load mode. As a result I would
take a lot of convincing that Amel have actually painted the
orange stripe in the right place all these years. We love Amels
dearly ( this is our third ) but stubbornness is one of their
virtues. Having spent hours and hours over 9 years, in the water
or in the dinghy, cleaning the orange and intermediate white
stripe, we decided last year, when we applied Coppercoat
antifouling, that enough was enough. We took a deep breath and
brought the Coppercoat to the TOP of the orange stripe, adding a
new blue stripe above that, with the intermediate white stripe
in between. I cannot tell you how pleased we are with the
result. Should have done it years ago. The hull looks just
right, slightly sleeker, the fact that the Coppercoat ( brown
but going very softly green with oxidisation) comes up so high
looks right. No more cleaning of that lower part and , an added bonus,
noticeably less white hull to clean and polish---and you can do
that from the dinghy or dock without getting your polishing rag
wet. In our experience you don't need to change the angle, just
raise the waterline and add a new coloured strip. Happy
painting, Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Ibiza ( where the
water temp is 23c but the sea is awash with jellyfish!)

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
From: svsummerlove@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 15:19:54 +0000
Subject: [Amel] Re: Amel Orange Boot Stripe and corrosion in
engine room

I would think that intentionally painting the boot stripe at
an angle that isn't parallel to the water for marketing purposes
is out of character for Capt Henri. If he wanted to "pose" a
boat for the marketing literature photo with no anti-fouling
paint showing to make it look "dynamic", I believe he was clever
enough to artificially load one for that purpose, rather than
painting the stripe in the wrong place on 450 boats. Nor do I
see him sacrificing function for "eye appeal".

I'm not talking about simply raising the boot stripe 4" so the
stern is barely out of the water, and the bow is now 12" out of
the water. I'm asking about the consequences of changing the
angle of it down the length of the boat so that it's 4" to 8"
out of the water all the way to the stern. I've already got 8"
of "dry" anti-fouling paint at the bow. I don't need 4 more inches.

Example:

If I want the fiberglass along the waterline to remain free of
growth, I have 3 choices:

1. I can leave the boot stripe where it is now, and try to
balance the boat with weight distribution so the bow rides 4"
lower and the stern 4" higher.

2. I can change only the "location" of the entire boot stripe
by raising it 4", so it is now 12" out of the water at the bow,
and 4" out at the stern.

3. I can change both the "angle" and the "location" of the
boot stripe so it is 4" out of the water along its entire length.

Since the boot stripe of every SM I've seen rides bow high
with the stern in the water, it can be assumed that either none
of the owners are capable of proper weight distribution, or the
boot stripe was painted in the wrong place to begin with.

My concern is that, assuming the naval architect who put it
there knew what he was doing and had a good reason for doing it,
I don't want to alter the angle of the boot stripe without
knowing that reason.

Does anyone know that reason?

Many thanks,

Steve
SM340
Summer Love


--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Richard03801
wrote:

In the normal loading for ocean work all the Amel seem to
need the water line raised seems the Capt wanted the "sales"
appearance to be more dynamic. We too collected an marine forest
on the waterline and stern. Grant when healed over cross for
days you will get growth on the leeward side as it is under
water.

Smooth sailing.

Regards
Richard SM 209 ANNAPOLIS FOR SALE.

"Yacht Brokerage Service above and beyond the expected"

Walczak Yacht Brokerage Service LLC
2 Compromise St
Annapolis, MD 21401

Cell 603 767 5330
Office
Fax

www.Walczakyacht.com

On May 22, 2011, at 17:49, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
wrote:

Hi all, we too have the low stern. Knowing Amel do nothing
without good reason and they build this model for many years
without changing the waterline I wondered if they expected more
ground tackle weight in the anchor locker than most of us have
or more heavy items stored in the bow lockers?.
Corrosion in the engine room. A friend with a SM asked me
how come my engine room is so free of corrosion and rust and his
was so bad. The answer is WD40 or in NZ, CRC 556
Spray it regularly and liberally over just about every
thing including alternators and electric motors. Makes a huge
difference.> > > Regards
Danny and Yvonne
SM299 Ocean Pearl
Mangonui New Zealand
--- On Mon, 23/5/11, Chris Smither wrote:

From: Chris Smither
Subject: Re: [Amel] Amel Orange Boot Stripe
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com"
Date: Monday, 23, May,
2011, 8:57 AM



Bill,
Once we moved onto our Amel as "liveaboards" we raised the
antifoul to meet the stripe......after doing it we were told by
others that this was a certain sign of "liveaboards"
Now that we have decided to stay in Phuket, and do no more
ocean crossings.....at the next haulout I was thinking of re-
adjusting the waterline......say no more!!
Glad to see that your move from the Maldives to the Med
went well.

All the Best

Mike
Akwaaba
SN 027

________________________________
From: Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Amel Orange Boot Stripe


Eric, I was tempted to raise the antifouling paint to meet
the stripe to solve the same issue, but I believe that BeBe will
begin to loose weight now that we are in the Med...we'll see.

Best,

Bill
BeBe, Sm2k, #387
Currently Marmaris, Turkey

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, kimberlite
wrote:

Bill,

I noticed a few weeks ago that the boot stripe area in
the stern had marine
growth. The yard recommended that I raise the waterline
as the stern is
lower in the water than the stripe.

Did you or any other owner raise the stripe?

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





_____

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Judy and Bill aboard
SV BeBe
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 2:41 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Amel Orange Boot Stripe





We are in Marmaris, Turkey and just had the boot stripe
renewed using a two
part paint matched to Amel orange.

We have purchased the paint twice and have paint,
hardener and thinner
available for any Amel owner in the area to pick up.

Contact us at svbebe"at"gmail.com or Turkey cell at
+90535-082-2191.

Bill
s/v BeBe, SM2k, #387
Currently Marmaris, Turkey















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Re: [Amel] Re: SM 93 Ballooner sails & Amel Electronic Manual

Paul LaFrance <pflafrance@...>
 

Mark
When we went to the site as indicated for the compressed files it was indicating that it was corrupted. The same message came up when we tried to access under the Amel site, Links as well. We would also like to download same.

Paul & Sue LaFrance
SSV NOMAD SM 362, Currently in Bristol, RI, USA




To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
From: uster@rocketmail.com
Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 05:48:52 -0700
Subject: Re: [Amel] Re: SM 93 Ballooner sails & Amel Electronic Manual






Thank you so much!

--- On Mon, 5/23/11, Mark <markghayden@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Mark <markghayden@yahoo.com>
Subject: [Amel] Re: SM 93 Ballooner sails & Amel Electronic Manual
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, May 23, 2011, 5:54 AM



I've posted a link to a ZIP file containing scans for just about all the documents that came with our SM2K # 331. Look under the Links folder for the Amel group for "Amel SM2K Scanned Manuals", or use the link below.

Obviously, some of these are specific to our boat but many should be common to similar hulls. When the same information was available in multiple languages, we only scanned the English version.

Given the Yahoo Groups space limitations, I've posted this under a separate service. Let me know if you have any problems downloading the file. You can reach me directly at markghayden _AT_ yahoo.com

As I said in an earlier email, these are quite handy to have on your laptop and we have found them useful to put on our iPad via the iBooks app. Just go to iTunes, select File -> Add to Library for each folder. Then select Books for your device and select Sync Books -> All Books.

best, Mark

http://c575268.r68.cf2.rackcdn.com/Manuals.zip

./Amel/AmelBalloonerInstructions.pdf
./Amel/AmelBowThruster.pdf
./Amel/AmelContacts.pdf
./Amel/AmelSailMaintenance.pdf
./Amel/AmelSchemaCommandePuissPropulseur.pdf
./Amel/AmelSM2K.pdf
./Amel/AmelSM2KElectricalSystem.pdf
./Amel/AmelSM2KFluidSystems.pdf
./Amel/AmelWinterService.pdf
./Amel/DouaneEuropeanAgents.pdf
./Amel/Drawings/Drawing_10_Deck_Join.pdf
./Amel/Drawings/Drawing_11_Compartments.pdf
./Amel/Drawings/Drawing_12_Main_Mast.pdf
./Amel/Drawings/Drawing_13_Propeller_Shaft.pdf
./Amel/Drawings/Drawing_1_Layout.pdf
./Amel/Drawings/Drawing_2_Layout.pdf
./Amel/Drawings/Drawing_3_Rudder.pdf
./Amel/Drawings/Drawing_4_Construction.pdf
./Amel/Drawings/Drawing_5_Cross_Section.pdf
./Amel/Drawings/Drawing_6_Engine_Room.pdf
./Amel/Drawings/Drawing_7_Fuel_Tank.pdf
./Amel/Drawings/Drawing_8_Battery.pdf
./Amel/Drawings/Drawing_9_Butane.pdf
./Appliance/AirConditionerWaterPump.pdf
./Appliance/BerkertFluidControlSwitch.pdf
./Appliance/CasaforteSafe.pdf
./Appliance/ClimmaAirConditioner.pdf
./Appliance/EnoStove.pdf
./Appliance/EumeniaDishWasher.pdf
./Appliance/FrigoboatAV35FRefrigerator.pdf
./Appliance/OmnimaxTVAntennae.pdf
./Appliance/ThomsonWashingMachine.pdf
./Appliance/ThomsonWashingMachineFrench.pdf
./Dinghy/Parts Catalog M8B-9.8B (2003) - (00221030-5).pdf
./Dinghy/TohatsuOutboard.pdf
./Drive/BajaFuelFilter.pdf
./Drive/BruntonAutoprop.pdf
./Drive/JabscoBlower.pdf
./Drive/Yanmar_4JH3_Overhaul_Service_Manual.pdf
./Drive/Yanmar_4JH3_T_series_Op_Manual.pdf
./Drive/YanmarDieselEngine.pdf
./Drive/ZFMarineTransmission.pdf
./Electrical/BatteryMonitor.pdf
./Electrical/MDKAL-ServiceParts.pdf
./Electrical/Onan-mdkBl-manual.pdf
./Electrical/OnanMDKALOperatorsManual.pdf
./Electrical/Sailor24To12VoltReg.pdf
./Electrical/SentryBatteryChargers.pdf
./GroundTackle/FortressAnchor.pdf
./GroundTackle/LofransTigresWindlass.pdf
./GroundTackle/PochonChainCounter_French.pdf
./Head/JabscoElectricToilet.pdf
./Head/JabscoElectricToiletConversion.pdf
./Misc/RadioShackThermometer.pdf
./Navigation/BrookesAndGatehouse/B&GSonicSpeedExtra.pdf
./Navigation/BrookesAndGatehouse/B&GSonicSpeedInstall.pdf
./Navigation/BrookesAndGatehouse/B&GSonicSpeedInstallDocPack.pdf
./Navigation/BrookesAndGatehouse/B&GSonicSpeedUser.pdf
./Navigation/Hydra2000.pdf
./Navigation/PlastimoCompass.pdf
./Safety/ACR_EPIRB.pdf
./Safety/DavisRadarReflector.pdf
./Safety/EdsonManualPump.pdf
./Safety/HendersonManualBilgePump.pdf
./Safety/HorizonVHFRadio.pdf
./Safety/IcomVHFRadio.pdf
./Safety/KatadynSurvivorWaterMaker.pdf
./Safety/LifeSling.pdf
./Safety/RapidFireStrobe.pdf
./Safety/WorldClassPFD_38AHAR.pdf
./Safety/WorldClassPFD_38AS-HAR.pdf
./Safety/ZodiacLiferaftEnglish.pdf
./Water/DessalatorWaterMaker.pdf
./Water/FEITFreshWaterPump.pdf
./Water/GroheShowerControl.pdf
./Water/JabscoWaterAccumulator.pdf
./Water/QuickWaterHeater.pdf
./Water/SeagullWaterFilter.pdf
./Water/WaterPumpLocationPurposeUnknown.pdf
./Winch/LewmarElectricWinch.pdf
./Winch/LewmarWinchAdjust.pdf

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, ldesalvo@... wrote:

Hello Mark,
If you post these files I woould also love to know where to find them.
Jim and Linda on "LIEBLING" SM #207
Currentely in La Paz, Mexico.

---- Original Message ----
From: markghayden@...
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Re: SM 93 Ballooner sails & Amel Electronic Manual
Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 19:10:56 -0000

Last year, we scanned the manuals for all the systems, including the
Amel documents and schematics and posted a link to an external site
where others could download them. I don't know if anyone did and the
site I put them doesn't exist anymore. Let me know if there is
interest and I can find another place to host the files. We put all
the manuals on our laptops and ipad and have found it quite handy to
always have them available. The total scans were about 500MB and we
only scanned English when there were multiple languages.

cheers, Mark
SM2K 331
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Re: [Amel] Re: Amel Orange Boot Stripe and corrosion in engine room

Paul LaFrance <pflafrance@...>
 

Steve
When we where in La Rochelle this past month, I inquired about the boot stripe. They indicated at the factory that the boot stripe was set correctly to begin with and as more options where added to the SM it made the stern sink a little lower. They did not alter the stripe over time time and they agreed that it should possibly have been done with the addition of more weight. We repainted the boot stripe maintaining the bow as original and raised the stern so it was out of the water. (Easier cleaning). We do not have the white part between the anti fouling and boot stripe that was there before. C'est la vie.
Looks great and a number of Amel owners in the Caribbean have noted it.

Paul & Sue LaFrance
SV NOMAD SM 362 currently in Bristol, RI, USA





To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
From: ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com
Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 16:12:08 +0000
Subject: RE: [Amel] Re: Amel Orange Boot Stripe and corrosion in engine room







Hi Steve, All SMs that I know of seem to float stern down, particularly when in cruising load mode. As a result I would take a lot of convincing that Amel have actually painted the orange stripe in the right place all these years. We love Amels dearly ( this is our third ) but stubbornness is one of their virtues. Having spent hours and hours over 9 years, in the water or in the dinghy, cleaning the orange and intermediate white stripe, we decided last year, when we applied Coppercoat antifouling, that enough was enough. We took a deep breath and brought the Coppercoat to the TOP of the orange stripe, adding a new blue stripe above that, with the intermediate white stripe in between. I cannot tell you how pleased we are with the result. Should have done it years ago. The hull looks just right, slightly sleeker, the fact that the Coppercoat ( brown but going very softly green with oxidisation) comes up so high looks right. No more cleaning of that lower part and , an added bonus, noticeably less white hull to clean and polish---and you can do that from the dinghy or dock without getting your polishing rag wet. In our experience you don't need to change the angle, just raise the waterline and add a new coloured strip. Happy painting, Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Ibiza ( where the water temp is 23c but the sea is awash with jellyfish!)

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
From: svsummerlove@yahoo.com
Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 15:19:54 +0000
Subject: [Amel] Re: Amel Orange Boot Stripe and corrosion in engine room

I would think that intentionally painting the boot stripe at an angle that isn't parallel to the water for marketing purposes is out of character for Capt Henri. If he wanted to "pose" a boat for the marketing literature photo with no anti-fouling paint showing to make it look "dynamic", I believe he was clever enough to artificially load one for that purpose, rather than painting the stripe in the wrong place on 450 boats. Nor do I see him sacrificing function for "eye appeal".

I'm not talking about simply raising the boot stripe 4" so the stern is barely out of the water, and the bow is now 12" out of the water. I'm asking about the consequences of changing the angle of it down the length of the boat so that it's 4" to 8" out of the water all the way to the stern. I've already got 8" of "dry" anti-fouling paint at the bow. I don't need 4 more inches.

Example:

If I want the fiberglass along the waterline to remain free of growth, I have 3 choices:

1. I can leave the boot stripe where it is now, and try to balance the boat with weight distribution so the bow rides 4" lower and the stern 4" higher.

2. I can change only the "location" of the entire boot stripe by raising it 4", so it is now 12" out of the water at the bow, and 4" out at the stern.

3. I can change both the "angle" and the "location" of the boot stripe so it is 4" out of the water along its entire length.

Since the boot stripe of every SM I've seen rides bow high with the stern in the water, it can be assumed that either none of the owners are capable of proper weight distribution, or the boot stripe was painted in the wrong place to begin with.

My concern is that, assuming the naval architect who put it there knew what he was doing and had a good reason for doing it, I don't want to alter the angle of the boot stripe without knowing that reason.

Does anyone know that reason?

Many thanks,

Steve
SM340
Summer Love


--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Richard03801 <richard03801@...> wrote:

In the normal loading for ocean work all the Amel seem to need the water line raised seems the Capt wanted the "sales" appearance to be more dynamic. We too collected an marine forest on the waterline and stern. Grant when healed over cross for days you will get growth on the leeward side as it is under water.

Smooth sailing.

Regards
Richard SM 209 ANNAPOLIS FOR SALE.

"Yacht Brokerage Service above and beyond the expected"

Walczak Yacht Brokerage Service LLC
2 Compromise St
Annapolis, MD 21401

Cell 603 767 5330
Office
Fax

www.Walczakyacht.com

On May 22, 2011, at 17:49, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:

Hi all, we too have the low stern. Knowing Amel do nothing without good reason and they build this model for many years without changing the waterline I wondered if they expected more ground tackle weight in the anchor locker than most of us have or more heavy items stored in the bow lockers?.
Corrosion in the engine room. A friend with a SM asked me how come my engine room is so free of corrosion and rust and his was so bad. The answer is WD40 or in NZ, CRC 556
Spray it regularly and liberally over just about every thing including alternators and electric motors. Makes a huge difference.
Regards
Danny and Yvonne
SM299 Ocean Pearl
Mangonui New Zealand
--- On Mon, 23/5/11, Chris Smither <yachtakwaaba@...> wrote:

From: Chris Smither <yachtakwaaba@...>
Subject: Re: [Amel] Amel Orange Boot Stripe
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Monday, 23, May, 2011, 8:57 AM



Bill,
Once we moved onto our Amel as "liveaboards" we raised the antifoul to meet the stripe......after doing it we were told by others that this was a certain sign of "liveaboards"
Now that we have decided to stay in Phuket, and do no more ocean crossings.....at the next haulout I was thinking of re-adjusting the waterline......say no more!!
Glad to see that your move from the Maldives to the Med went well.

All the Best

Mike
Akwaaba
SN 027

________________________________
From: Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@...>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Amel Orange Boot Stripe


Eric, I was tempted to raise the antifouling paint to meet the stripe to solve the same issue, but I believe that BeBe will begin to loose weight now that we are in the Med...we'll see.

Best,

Bill
BeBe, Sm2k, #387
Currently Marmaris, Turkey

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, kimberlite <kimberlite@> wrote:

Bill,

I noticed a few weeks ago that the boot stripe area in the stern had marine
growth. The yard recommended that I raise the waterline as the stern is
lower in the water than the stripe.

Did you or any other owner raise the stripe?

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Judy and Bill aboard
SV BeBe
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 2:41 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Amel Orange Boot Stripe





We are in Marmaris, Turkey and just had the boot stripe renewed using a two
part paint matched to Amel orange.

We have purchased the paint twice and have paint, hardener and thinner
available for any Amel owner in the area to pick up.

Contact us at svbebe"at"gmail.com or Turkey cell at +90535-082-2191.

Bill
s/v BeBe, SM2k, #387
Currently Marmaris, Turkey















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Re: [Amel] Lofrans windlasses

john rogers <jsrogers@...>
 

Another comment about Windless switches. An Electrician at Newport Shipyard
has recommended that I install a relay controlled by the helm anchor wash
down switch which will also activate and deactivate power at the windlass.
This will also prevent an accidental activation of the windlass, which
could result in the damages mentioned.



From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Zlatar
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 10:53 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel] Lofrans windlasses





Thanks everybody for your comments, I will change them to the deck mounted
switches, easy to get anywhere and I think they have less problems.I
realize this is something that you can´t wait that they fail to change
them..I received a comment of another Amel owner, that had this problem in
40 knots and 4 mts seas, the anchor went loose and the damage was Eu
100.000. The switch is Us $ 10.00.

________________________________
From: Anne and John Hollamby <annejohnholl@gmail.com
<mailto:annejohnholl%40gmail.com> >
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Lofrans windlasses

I would have suspected the switches on the top of the winch as these are a
Pochon/Amel "inprovement" to the winch and prone to failure and the type
used is not readily available in chandleries. It is very easy to disconnect
them and use deck mounted switches further forward so that it is easy to see

the anchor coming up.

Anne and John, SM 319, Bali Hai

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Woods" <DENNISWOODS@IRELAND.COM
<mailto:DENNISWOODS%40IRELAND.COM> >
To: <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> >
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 2:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Lofrans windlasses

Hi Jorge,
Mine did the same. It hauled up the anchor on its own and could not be
switched off. even disconnecting the switches on the cockpit panel. It
would only stop when you switched it off on main fuse panel in the
forward cabin. The fault was the Lofrans control panel also located on
the front of the port side locker. This was relaced and all ok.
Regards,
Dennis Woods IL Flauto Magico SM2K 408

On 29 May 2011, at 07:05, Jorge wrote:

Hi all
I have a Lofrans mod Tigres, and today after a heavy rain while at
dock,at 5 am my windlass started to work alone, Y normally tie the
anchor as a safety precaution, and so this time.
I I haven´t done it, this time, the anchor and chain would have gone
to the water. Wet switch ?

Any comments?
Jorge and Isabel
SV Excalibur





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Re: [Amel] Lofrans windlasses

Jorge Zlatar <jorge.zlatar@...>
 

Hi Ian,
Long time::::......
Yes you are right,I do it all the time, Thanks for your advise anyway...
How are the davits still working? We are now in Turkey.
See you some time again.
Best regards to Judy
Jorge Zlatar SV Excalibur


________________________________
From: Ian & Judy Jenkins <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 1:03 PM
Subject: RE: [Amel] Lofrans windlasses


 

Hola Jorge, I really recommend that you use a snubber when you anchor. Not only does this mean that your winch is only carrying the weight of the chain when you are using it but , more importantly, if your winch starts to unload of its own accord---or if the chain jumps off the gypsy-- you are still safely attached to your anchor. We use a snubber every time we anchor, a simple stainless steel hook attached to about 10m of octoplait. Never had a problem detaching it in all conditions over the last 17 years, certainly over a thousand anchorages. Fair winds, Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Ibiza


To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
From: jorge.zlatar@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 07:52:30 -0700
Subject: Re: [Amel] Lofrans windlasses

Thanks everybody for your comments, I will change them to the deck mounted switches, easy to get anywhere and I think they have less problems.I realize this is something that you can´t wait that they fail to change them..I received a comment of another Amel owner, that had this problem in 40 knots and 4 mts seas, the anchor went loose and the damage was Eu 100.000. The switch is Us $ 10.00.



________________________________
From: Anne and John Hollamby <annejohnholl@gmail.com>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Lofrans windlasses

I would have suspected the switches on the top of the winch as these are a
Pochon/Amel "inprovement" to the winch and prone to failure and the type
used is not readily available in chandleries. It is very easy to disconnect
them and use deck mounted switches further forward so that it is easy to see
the anchor coming up.

Anne and John, SM 319, Bali Hai

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Woods" <DENNISWOODS@IRELAND.COM>
To: <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 2:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Lofrans windlasses


Hi Jorge,
Mine did the same. It hauled up the anchor on its own and could not be
switched off. even disconnecting the switches on the cockpit panel. It
would only stop when you switched it off on main fuse panel in the
forward cabin. The fault was the Lofrans control panel also located on
the front of the port side locker. This was relaced and all ok.
Regards,
Dennis Woods IL Flauto Magico SM2K 408

On 29 May 2011, at 07:05, Jorge wrote:

Hi all
I have a Lofrans mod Tigres, and today after a heavy rain while at
dock,at 5 am my windlass started to work alone, Y normally tie the
anchor as a safety precaution, and so this time.
I I haven´t done it, this time, the anchor and chain would have gone
to the water. Wet switch ?

Any comments?
Jorge and Isabel
SV Excalibur









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Re: [Amel] Lofrans windlasses

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Ian and Judy and Jorge, when underway the anchor should always be secured, coastal voyages we shackle it, off shore we shackle and seriously lash it. Many yachts have been lost through anchors coming adrift in heavy weather.
You cannot trust wiches and switches for something so dangerous
Regards
Danny
SM299
Ocean Pearl
Mangonui
NZ

--- On Tue, 31/5/11, Ian & Judy Jenkins <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com> wrote:


From: Ian & Judy Jenkins <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: [Amel] Lofrans windlasses
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 31, May, 2011, 10:03 PM


 




Hola Jorge, I really recommend that you use a snubber when you anchor. Not only does this mean that your winch is only carrying the weight of the chain when you are using it but , more importantly, if your winch starts to unload of its own accord---or if the chain jumps off the gypsy-- you are still safely attached to your anchor. We use a snubber every time we anchor, a simple stainless steel hook attached to about 10m of octoplait. Never had a problem detaching it in all conditions over the last 17 years, certainly over a thousand anchorages. Fair winds, Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Ibiza


To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
From: jorge.zlatar@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 07:52:30 -0700
Subject: Re: [Amel] Lofrans windlasses

Thanks everybody for your comments, I will change them to the deck mounted switches, easy to get anywhere and I think they have less problems.I realize this is something that you can´t wait that they fail to change them..I received a comment of another Amel owner, that had this problem in 40 knots and 4 mts seas, the anchor went loose and the damage was Eu 100.000. The switch is Us $ 10.00.



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From: Anne and John Hollamby <annejohnholl@gmail.com>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Lofrans windlasses

I would have suspected the switches on the top of the winch as these are a
Pochon/Amel "inprovement" to the winch and prone to failure and the type
used is not readily available in chandleries. It is very easy to disconnect
them and use deck mounted switches further forward so that it is easy to see
the anchor coming up.

Anne and John, SM 319, Bali Hai

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From: "Dennis Woods" <DENNISWOODS@IRELAND.COM>
To: <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 2:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Lofrans windlasses


Hi Jorge,
Mine did the same. It hauled up the anchor on its own and could not be
switched off. even disconnecting the switches on the cockpit panel. It
would only stop when you switched it off on main fuse panel in the
forward cabin. The fault was the Lofrans control panel also located on
the front of the port side locker. This was relaced and all ok.
Regards,
Dennis Woods IL Flauto Magico SM2K 408

On 29 May 2011, at 07:05, Jorge wrote:

Hi all
I have a Lofrans mod Tigres, and today after a heavy rain while at
dock,at 5 am my windlass started to work alone, Y normally tie the
anchor as a safety precaution, and so this time.
I I haven´t done it, this time, the anchor and chain would have gone
to the water. Wet switch ?

Any comments?
Jorge and Isabel
SV Excalibur





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Re: [Amel] Lofrans windlasses

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Hola Jorge, I really recommend that you use a snubber when you anchor. Not only does this mean that your winch is only carrying the weight of the chain when you are using it but , more importantly, if your winch starts to unload of its own accord---or if the chain jumps off the gypsy-- you are still safely attached to your anchor. We use a snubber every time we anchor, a simple stainless steel hook attached to about 10m of octoplait. Never had a problem detaching it in all conditions over the last 17 years, certainly over a thousand anchorages. Fair winds, Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Ibiza

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
From: jorge.zlatar@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 07:52:30 -0700
Subject: Re: [Amel] Lofrans windlasses

Thanks everybody for your comments, I will change them to the deck mounted switches, easy to get anywhere and I think they have less problems.I realize this is something that you can´t wait that they fail to change them..I received a comment of another Amel owner, that had this problem in 40 knots and 4 mts seas, the anchor went loose and the damage was Eu 100.000. The switch is Us $ 10.00.



________________________________
From: Anne and John Hollamby <annejohnholl@gmail.com>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Lofrans windlasses

I would have suspected the switches on the top of the winch as these are a
Pochon/Amel "inprovement" to the winch and prone to failure and the type
used is not readily available in chandleries. It is very easy to disconnect
them and use deck mounted switches further forward so that it is easy to see
the anchor coming up.

Anne and John, SM 319, Bali Hai

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Woods" <DENNISWOODS@IRELAND.COM>
To: <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 2:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Lofrans windlasses


Hi Jorge,
Mine did the same. It hauled up the anchor on its own and could not be
switched off. even disconnecting the switches on the cockpit panel. It
would only stop when you switched it off on main fuse panel in the
forward cabin. The fault was the Lofrans control panel also located on
the front of the port side locker. This was relaced and all ok.
Regards,
Dennis Woods IL Flauto Magico SM2K 408

On 29 May 2011, at 07:05, Jorge wrote:

Hi all
I have a Lofrans mod Tigres, and today after a heavy rain while at
dock,at 5 am my windlass started to work alone, Y normally tie the
anchor as a safety precaution, and so this time.
I I haven´t done it, this time, the anchor and chain would have gone
to the water. Wet switch ?

Any comments?
Jorge and Isabel
SV Excalibur









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Re: [Amel] Lofrans windlasses

Jorge Zlatar <jorge.zlatar@...>
 

Thanks everybody for your comments, I will change them to the  deck mounted switches, easy to get  anywhere and I think they have less problems.I realize this is something that you can´t wait that they fail to change them..I received a comment of another Amel owner, that had this problem in 40 knots and 4 mts seas, the anchor went loose and the damage was Eu 100.000. The switch is Us $ 10.00.



________________________________
From: Anne and John Hollamby <annejohnholl@gmail.com>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Lofrans windlasses

I would have suspected the switches on the top of the winch as these are a
Pochon/Amel "inprovement" to the winch and prone to failure and the type
used is not readily available in chandleries. It is very easy to disconnect
them and use deck mounted switches further forward so that it is easy to see
the anchor coming up.

                        Anne and John, SM 319,  Bali Hai

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Woods" <DENNISWOODS@IRELAND.COM>
To: <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 2:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Lofrans windlasses


Hi Jorge,
Mine did the same. It hauled up the anchor on its own and could not be
switched off. even disconnecting the switches on the cockpit panel. It
would only stop when you switched it off on main fuse panel in the
forward cabin. The fault was the Lofrans control panel also located on
the front of the port side locker. This was relaced and all ok.
Regards,
Dennis Woods IL Flauto Magico SM2K 408

On 29 May 2011, at 07:05, Jorge wrote:

Hi all
I have a Lofrans mod Tigres, and today after a heavy rain while at
dock,at 5 am my windlass started to work alone, Y normally tie the
anchor as a safety precaution, and so this time.
I I haven´t done it, this time, the anchor and chain would have gone
to the water. Wet switch ?

Any comments?
Jorge and Isabel
SV Excalibur





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Re: [Amel] Lofrans windlasses

Anne and John Hollamby <annejohnholl@...>
 

I would have suspected the switches on the top of the winch as these are a Pochon/Amel "inprovement" to the winch and prone to failure and the type used is not readily available in chandleries. It is very easy to disconnect them and use deck mounted switches further forward so that it is easy to see the anchor coming up.

Anne and John, SM 319, Bali Hai

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Woods" <DENNISWOODS@IRELAND.COM>
To: <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 2:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Lofrans windlasses


Hi Jorge,
Mine did the same. It hauled up the anchor on its own and could not be
switched off. even disconnecting the switches on the cockpit panel. It
would only stop when you switched it off on main fuse panel in the
forward cabin. The fault was the Lofrans control panel also located on
the front of the port side locker. This was relaced and all ok.
Regards,
Dennis Woods IL Flauto Magico SM2K 408

On 29 May 2011, at 07:05, Jorge wrote:

Hi all
I have a Lofrans mod Tigres, and today after a heavy rain while at
dock,at 5 am my windlass started to work alone, Y normally tie the
anchor as a safety precaution, and so this time.
I I havent done it, this time, the anchor and chain would have gone
to the water. Wet switch ?

Any comments?
Jorge and Isabel
SV Excalibur









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