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Switching toi Propane

Marty Scheinberg <martyray@...>
 

If you plan in advance Amel will build a mini locker (typical Amel excellence) in the aft
lazerette. They would need an empty propane tank in order to build to size. The
mini locker would house two propane tanks. The gas line that runs from the galley
aft, would remain the same. However, a different size "Y" valve would also live in the
locker to accomodate the different type of gas. It would also be quite simple to switch
back to butane. In addition, an On /Off propane switch would be mounted in the
galley area [physically close to the butane switch (Ouvert/Ferme)] and the gas would
flow through both switches. I leave the butane O/F switch permanently in the Ouvert
position. I recommend a visit to the yard in Hyeres. My SM is "Rosebud", hull # 191.
More info required? Feel free to ontact me..
Good Luck, Marty


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] switching to Propane

Jim <jim@...>
 

Hi Walter,
Group member martyray@..., owner of SM Rosedbud has used propane for several years. I am sending him a copy of your email. Good luck.
Jim Grossman

----- Original Message -----
From: Walter Lundstrom
To: AmelGroup
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 7:18 AM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] switching to Propane


Hi,

We have been in the Med for the last 18 months with "Linnea" our Amel SMM
(hull no. 366). Our boat is currently setup with the standard butane bottles
supplied by Amel. However, we are crossing to Caribbean (and later Florida)
in a few weeks, and it seems like we will need to switch to propane. Does
anybody have any advise/experience about what changes we would need to do to
start using propane instead of butane?

Walter Lundstrom
S/Y Linnea

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110v

Walter Lundstrom <linneasail@...>
 

We have just left the Med, and we're going to Caribbean and later on Florida
with "Linnea" our SMM 2000. We have not installed an inverter and are
looking for a simple way to get 220v from the 110 outlets in the US. I know
that we will not be able to use the dish washer and the washer/dryer due to
the difference in frequency. However, I have some recollection about some
really simple and smart way to get 220v from 110v.

Any advise would be great!

Walter
S/Y Linnea (hull no. 366)


switching to Propane

Walter Lundstrom <linneasail@...>
 

Hi,

We have been in the Med for the last 18 months with "Linnea" our Amel SMM
(hull no. 366). Our boat is currently setup with the standard butane bottles
supplied by Amel. However, we are crossing to Caribbean (and later Florida)
in a few weeks, and it seems like we will need to switch to propane. Does
anybody have any advise/experience about what changes we would need to do to
start using propane instead of butane?

Walter Lundstrom
S/Y Linnea


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Life raft

Hans-Joachim Schröder <Achimschro@...>
 

Hello Michael,

no specific information available for this particular liferaft. The manufacturer was highly recognized in Germany for the quality of their products. Their focus is no longer on liferafts for leisure boats.

The website is: www.bfa-augsburg.de

Hope this helps.

Regards

Achim Schröder
Kirk # 81 "Assis"

----- Original Message -----
From: silkair@...
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Life raft


Could anyone give me any positive or negative comments about a 15 year old
Deutsche Parachute 6-man liferaft.
Thanks, Michael P. McCarthy


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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rig tuning

Joel F. Potter <jfpottercys@...>
 

Howdy PEN AZEN.

Boat show here, hence the delay. Yes the mizzen backstays are much looser.
You can tighten them so they don't vibrate in big breeze but not too much.
I plan on a large write up on rig tuning as soon as the show is over.

Hope this helps.

All the best,
Joel

-----Original Message-----
From: Ian & Judy Jenkins [mailto:ianjudyjenkins@...]
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 2:48 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rig tuning


Hi Joel, On the subject of rigs, how tight do you make your backstays?
Every other part of my standing rigging is very tight but my backstays
have
always had a fair bit of play in them.Would you tighten them to the same
extent as the rest of the rig? Ian Jenkins, Pen Azen SM 302


>From: "Joel F. Potter" <jfpottercys@...>
>Reply-To: amelyachtowners@...
>To: <amelyachtowners@...>
>Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rig tuning
>Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 18:10:38 -0400
>
>Hi Vito,
>
>I NEVER advocated a loose rig. It's dangerous to have loose rigging on
an
>AMEL. Most riggers/yards loosen the rigging because most boats are tuned
>loose because they flex. Amels are tuned very tight because they don't
>flex. You shouldn't have much sag in the headstay and very little, if
any,
>real slop in the lazy side shourds.
>
>TIGHT IS RIGHT. NEVER LOOSE.
>
>Hope this helps.
>Joel SUPER MARAMU MILLENNIUM #400 "MARY BROWN"
> -----Original Message-----
> From: asm283 [mailto:no_reply@...]
> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 8:53 AM
> To: amelyachtowners@...
> Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rig tuning
>
>
> I would be intrested in any opinions and recomendations on tuning the
> Amel ketch rig. The proper tune of the rig is directly related to the
> boats ability to point. Joel you recomend a loose rig what is your
> reason for this?
>
> Thanks
>
> Vito Ciaravino
> asm283
>
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] FT. LAUDERDALE BOAT SHOW

BINS Dick <richard.bins@...>
 

Joel

It was nice to briefly visit with you and your lovely wife in Annapolis.
Commissioning ISSUES on the HR prevented us from meeting with you. We did
have an eventful & enjoyable two week cruise on the Chesapeake. We are
attempting to schedule a return to Ft. Lauderdale before Xmas, to revisit
the Mary Brown & inspect a new Tayana 55 that was recently delivered down
there. Hoping you have a successful show in FT. Lauderdale.

Richard Bins

-----Original Message-----
From: Joel F. Potter [mailto:jfpottercys@...]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 3:24 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] FT. LAUDERDALE BOAT SHOW


WOOPS! You who are familiar with Fort Lauderdale already know that there is
no PIER 55, our boat will be at PIER 66, Dock C-64. Hope to see you there.

All the best,
Vela Potter
-----Original Message-----
From: Joel F. Potter [mailto:jfpottercys@...]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 12:38 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] FT. LAUDERDALE BOAT SHOW


Dear Fellow Amel Owners:

With the Fort Lauderdale Boat Show upon us from October 30th - November 3,
we have received numerous inquiries from the Amel tribe on obtaining free
tickets to the show. I have a good supply of tickets for Friday October
31
through Monday November 3 available on a first come first served basis.
My
own Super Maramu Millennium MARY BROWN will be displayed at the show at
Pier
55 at Dock C-64. This is an "open entry" part of the show, you don't need
a
ticket to get in. Just stop by MARY BROWN and I'll be pleased to give you
tickets for the rest of the show. Free shuttle buses run about every
twenty
minutes to this area from parking at the Convention Center and on to the
shows other venues.

Again, I have a good supply of tickets, not a limitless supply. I don't
expect to run out but...Additionally, we spend a great deal of energy and
money to prepare for and to exhibit at the boat show. We may not be able
to
visit with you for as long as we wish so please try and understand if we
seem pre-occupied. The first function of boat shows is to take maximum
advantage of this target rich, uh, I mean potential client laden
environment. The show will not be the proper place to request parts and
service nor to share in any tales of woe...there's a time and a place for
everything. Everyone at Amel is always more than happy to assist our
clients as best we can through proper channels.

Myself and Vela along with Stephanie Rullier from the Amel Shipyard in La
Rochelle will be aboard. We look forward to seeing as many of you as
possible during the show. Until then, fair winds and following seas.

All the best,
Joel F. Potter Cruising Yacht Specialist
Amel's Sole Associate for the Americas
Super Maramu Millennium #400 "MARY BROWN"







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winterizing watermaker

Randy Kilmon <drifter01us@...>
 

"Drifter" has been in the Caribbean for the past four
years. We're back in the Chesapeake Bay now and need
to winterize the watermaker. The Amel manual suggests
using glycerin mixed with the "pickleing" chemical.
Does anyone know if the non-toxic, pink antifreeze
would work just as well?
Many thanks,
Randy Kilmon
S/Y "Drifter" Amel SM 2000 #240

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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rig tuning

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Hi Joel, On the subject of rigs, how tight do you make your backstays? Every other part of my standing rigging is very tight but my backstays have always had a fair bit of play in them.Would you tighten them to the same extent as the rest of the rig? Ian Jenkins, Pen Azen SM 302


From: "Joel F. Potter" <jfpottercys@...>
Reply-To: amelyachtowners@...
To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rig tuning
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 18:10:38 -0400

Hi Vito,

I NEVER advocated a loose rig. It's dangerous to have loose rigging on an
AMEL. Most riggers/yards loosen the rigging because most boats are tuned
loose because they flex. Amels are tuned very tight because they don't
flex. You shouldn't have much sag in the headstay and very little, if any,
real slop in the lazy side shourds.

TIGHT IS RIGHT. NEVER LOOSE.

Hope this helps.
Joel SUPER MARAMU MILLENNIUM #400 "MARY BROWN"
-----Original Message-----
From: asm283 [mailto:no_reply@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 8:53 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rig tuning


I would be intrested in any opinions and recomendations on tuning the
Amel ketch rig. The proper tune of the rig is directly related to the
boats ability to point. Joel you recomend a loose rig what is your
reason for this?

Thanks

Vito Ciaravino
asm283


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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] FT. LAUDERDALE BOAT SHOW

Joel F. Potter <jfpottercys@...>
 

WOOPS! You who are familiar with Fort Lauderdale already know that there is
no PIER 55, our boat will be at PIER 66, Dock C-64. Hope to see you there.

All the best,
Vela Potter

-----Original Message-----
From: Joel F. Potter [mailto:jfpottercys@...]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 12:38 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] FT. LAUDERDALE BOAT SHOW


Dear Fellow Amel Owners:

With the Fort Lauderdale Boat Show upon us from October 30th - November 3,
we have received numerous inquiries from the Amel tribe on obtaining free
tickets to the show. I have a good supply of tickets for Friday October
31
through Monday November 3 available on a first come first served basis.
My
own Super Maramu Millennium MARY BROWN will be displayed at the show at
Pier
55 at Dock C-64. This is an "open entry" part of the show, you don't need
a
ticket to get in. Just stop by MARY BROWN and I'll be pleased to give you
tickets for the rest of the show. Free shuttle buses run about every
twenty
minutes to this area from parking at the Convention Center and on to the
shows other venues.

Again, I have a good supply of tickets, not a limitless supply. I don't
expect to run out but...Additionally, we spend a great deal of energy and
money to prepare for and to exhibit at the boat show. We may not be able
to
visit with you for as long as we wish so please try and understand if we
seem pre-occupied. The first function of boat shows is to take maximum
advantage of this target rich, uh, I mean potential client laden
environment. The show will not be the proper place to request parts and
service nor to share in any tales of woe...there's a time and a place for
everything. Everyone at Amel is always more than happy to assist our
clients as best we can through proper channels.

Myself and Vela along with Stephanie Rullier from the Amel Shipyard in La
Rochelle will be aboard. We look forward to seeing as many of you as
possible during the show. Until then, fair winds and following seas.

All the best,
Joel F. Potter Cruising Yacht Specialist
Amel's Sole Associate for the Americas
Super Maramu Millennium #400 "MARY BROWN"







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FT. LAUDERDALE BOAT SHOW

Joel F. Potter <jfpottercys@...>
 

Dear Fellow Amel Owners:

With the Fort Lauderdale Boat Show upon us from October 30th - November 3,
we have received numerous inquiries from the Amel tribe on obtaining free
tickets to the show. I have a good supply of tickets for Friday October 31
through Monday November 3 available on a first come first served basis. My
own Super Maramu Millennium MARY BROWN will be displayed at the show at Pier
55 at Dock C-64. This is an "open entry" part of the show, you don't need a
ticket to get in. Just stop by MARY BROWN and I'll be pleased to give you
tickets for the rest of the show. Free shuttle buses run about every twenty
minutes to this area from parking at the Convention Center and on to the
shows other venues.

Again, I have a good supply of tickets, not a limitless supply. I don't
expect to run out but...Additionally, we spend a great deal of energy and
money to prepare for and to exhibit at the boat show. We may not be able to
visit with you for as long as we wish so please try and understand if we
seem pre-occupied. The first function of boat shows is to take maximum
advantage of this target rich, uh, I mean potential client laden
environment. The show will not be the proper place to request parts and
service nor to share in any tales of woe...there's a time and a place for
everything. Everyone at Amel is always more than happy to assist our
clients as best we can through proper channels.

Myself and Vela along with Stephanie Rullier from the Amel Shipyard in La
Rochelle will be aboard. We look forward to seeing as many of you as
possible during the show. Until then, fair winds and following seas.

All the best,
Joel F. Potter Cruising Yacht Specialist
Amel's Sole Associate for the Americas
Super Maramu Millennium #400 "MARY BROWN"


Euros plexiglas doghouse supports

Ian McKnight <aimkesho@...>
 

I need to replace the Plexiglas supports to the doghouse of my 1973 Amel Euros. Amel tell me that the moulds for these are no longer available. Has anyone found an alternative source for these, or an alternative method of supporting the doghouse roof without loosing too much visibility?
Ian, sy Kesho


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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: anchor chain

amelforme
 

Dear Amel Owners,

Not meaning to or wanting to pick on my friend and seasoned sailor Bill Atz,
but be EXTREMELY CAREFUL about deciding to use stainless steel chain. It
isn't as strong as high test but, more importantly, it is much more brittle
and prone to shock load failure and work-hardening failure. It's pretty and
doesn't rust...but breaks more often.

On older Super Maramus we used 8mm which is about 5/16". Now we use 10mm
and I advise owners of older boats to upgrade to this size. I believe the
windlass distributor IMTRA (www.imtra.com) offers the correct size gypsy for
proper fit.

Hope this helps.

Joel F. Potter
Hull # 400 "MARY BROWN"

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill & Sara Atz [mailto:WCZ4455@...]
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 3:14 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: anchor chain


--- In amelyachtowners@..., pagandaisy <no_reply@y...>
wrote:
> I am about to purchase new anchor chain in the States to ship down
to
> my 9 year old SM in the Caribbean. M. Selo says 8mm was installed
> when the boat was purchased. This is approximately 5/16" I
believe.
> I know link sizes are different between BBB & High Test. Any
> suggestions?
>
> Arnold Grubin

Arnold, It seems that many boats here in the Caribbean are buying
stainless steel chain in either Trinidad or Venezuela. The price is
still more than galvanized, but much less than SS in the US, and
once you buy it, you shouldn't need to buy again. I can't quote you
exact prices, but I can get you the Trinidad price with a simple
phone call if you wish; just let me know. Bill on Lady Sadie


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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: anchor chain

Hanspeter Bättig <hanspeter.baettig@...>
 

Hi Bill

I'm sailed my SM for 2 Years in the Caribs and Venezuela and also more then 8 Years in the Med and Red Sea.
Amel told me altime that 50 m of 8 mm galva. chain is enough, but I use very succesfully 60 m of still galvan but 10 mm chain. Never changed this since 8 Years and no rost!
Stainless anchor chain is still to expensive withe no advantage.
Greetings from Switzerland
Hanspeter
SM#16

----- Original Message -----
From: Bill & Sara Atz
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 9:13 PM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: anchor chain


--- In amelyachtowners@..., pagandaisy <no_reply@y...>
wrote:
> I am about to purchase new anchor chain in the States to ship down
to
> my 9 year old SM in the Caribbean. M. Selo says 8mm was installed
> when the boat was purchased. This is approximately 5/16" I
believe.
> I know link sizes are different between BBB & High Test. Any
> suggestions?
>
> Arnold Grubin

Arnold, It seems that many boats here in the Caribbean are buying
stainless steel chain in either Trinidad or Venezuela. The price is
still more than galvanized, but much less than SS in the US, and
once you buy it, you shouldn't need to buy again. I can't quote you
exact prices, but I can get you the Trinidad price with a simple
phone call if you wish; just let me know. Bill on Lady Sadie


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Re: anchor chain

Bill & Sara Atz <WCZ4455@...>
 

--- In amelyachtowners@..., pagandaisy <no_reply@y...>
wrote:
I am about to purchase new anchor chain in the States to ship down
to
my 9 year old SM in the Caribbean. M. Selo says 8mm was installed
when the boat was purchased. This is approximately 5/16" I
believe.
I know link sizes are different between BBB & High Test. Any
suggestions?

Arnold Grubin
Arnold, It seems that many boats here in the Caribbean are buying
stainless steel chain in either Trinidad or Venezuela. The price is
still more than galvanized, but much less than SS in the US, and
once you buy it, you shouldn't need to buy again. I can't quote you
exact prices, but I can get you the Trinidad price with a simple
phone call if you wish; just let me know. Bill on Lady Sadie


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Propane System Update

DHession@...
 

Bob, on Hanalei:

We have a 1989 Maramu, straight from France, and had to convert the existing
butane system to AYBA propane standard. I would describe how we did this; but
I'm not familiar with the Santorin layout.

If you'd like to know what we did and how we did it, reply direct or via the
group.

Dennis, on Marion


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Propane System Update

Willem J. Kroes <w.kroes@...>
 

Hi Bob,

I also own a Santorin (1992) "Kavanga" and updated the propane system
recently. A friend made for me a stainless steel locker for 2 aluminium
propane bottles (6 kg propane each). The locker is situated in the rear
locker (where also the old small locker was situated) with the long side
against the bulhead and the head of the propane locker close to the starbord
side wooden construction. The locker is about 0,5 metre from the bottom on a
support. There is also a hose from the starbord rear side of the bottom of
the locker to the corner of the last step of the stern with a vent fitting..
I also installed a solenoid (Trident bought from West Marine) with a control
panel. Installation was straight forward: I pulled 1 wire throufh the pipe
from the locker leading to the charting area,. From there 50 cm back through
the second pipe leading to the corner of the corridor area.. The most
difficult part was to direct the wire through the pipe leading to the
overhead cable area close to the galley. I installed the conrol panel
adjacent to the AC panel on the aft bulkhead on the port side. The power
connection was fixed through one of the circuitbreakers of the DC panel.
So I ended with a switch on the control panel that gives a green light as
power is on the wire in the rear locker. To connect the solenoid at the low
pressure side of the regulator in the propane locker is easy.

I installed the new propane system in June and after a vacation of 6 weeks
to Norway I am still on the first propane bottle of 6 kg.

Best Regards,

Willem J. Kroes
Amel Santorin "Kavanga"
home port: Zaandam, The Netherlands

----- Original Message -----
From: "rossirossix4" <equinoxsolstice@...>
To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2003 12:12 AM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Propane System Update


Based on a pre-purchase marine survey of my recently acquired 1993
Santorin, and a resulting requirment from my insurance company, I
have been asked to update its propane system. It presently has a
sealed propane locker but no solenoid at the propane tank and an
intermediate valve in the galley. The requirement is to add a
solenoid, to add a pressure test valve, and make the hose continuous
from the solenoid to the flex that feeds the stove. Does anyone
have experience or insights to share with me regarding the "right"
and easiest way to do this? Is it difficult to remove and replace
the existing feed with a continuous one? Thanks, Bob on Hanalei.



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anchor chain

pagandaisy <no_reply@...>
 

I am about to purchase new anchor chain in the States to ship down to
my 9 year old SM in the Caribbean. M. Selo says 8mm was installed
when the boat was purchased. This is approximately 5/16" I believe.
I know link sizes are different between BBB & High Test. Any
suggestions?

Arnold Grubin


Propane System Update

rossirossix4 <equinoxsolstice@...>
 

Based on a pre-purchase marine survey of my recently acquired 1993
Santorin, and a resulting requirment from my insurance company, I
have been asked to update its propane system. It presently has a
sealed propane locker but no solenoid at the propane tank and an
intermediate valve in the galley. The requirement is to add a
solenoid, to add a pressure test valve, and make the hose continuous
from the solenoid to the flex that feeds the stove. Does anyone
have experience or insights to share with me regarding the "right"
and easiest way to do this? Is it difficult to remove and replace
the existing feed with a continuous one? Thanks, Bob on Hanalei.


Transatlantic Speed Record smashed today

Zanareva
 

Ok, this isn't specific to Amels, but we're all sailors so I thought
everyone would be interested!

Today Mari-Cha IV shattered several sailing speed records. The 140
foot all carbon fiber schooner crossed the Atlantic in 6 days, 17
hours, 52 minutes--beating the existing record by over 2 days. Mari
Cha IV also set the 24 hour distance record sailing 525 nautical
miles! Check out all the news and great photos at
http://www.maricha4.com

Richard
SM "Spice"