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Re: Foreign boats in the EU

Ken & Judy <goldendaze@...>
 

We just left the EU and Med after 4.5 years.
The boat can stay 18 months, if not chartered, and used by non-EU.
After the boats 18 months is up you need to take it to a
non-EU country for a day and the clock starts over. We kept marina/fuel
receipts as proof that the boat was out of EU.

Americans (and perhaps all non-EU) can stay 180 days out of 360,
and then must stay out for 180 days, or any combinations thereof (90/90),
in the Schengen countries. Or get a visa, which we did not do.

Ken and Judy
SV Golden Daze
Maramu #194


Re: Foreign boats in the EU

Ralph Caruso
 

We are Americans, living in France, with an American-flagged boat that has been here for over 3 years.  We established our residency here, and with that we were allowed to import our boat into the EU as part of personal effects, with no charges for VAT or customs duty.  The process is tricky, and you have to start it in the US with an application for a long-stay visa, but it is worth it if you have a US-flagged boat here.  We have been stopped 3 times so far by French, Spanish, and Irish customs boats that seemed to be quite interested when they saw the US flag.  They were polite, efficient, friendly, and quite dissapointed when I showed them the import documents and our resident cards, but they had no questions whatsoever about their validity.  Whole process takes about 30 minutes, done at sea or in a marina, depending on where they find you.

For non EU-residents, I believe that the 18 month rule applies to the boat, and the 90 day Schengen rule for people who do not have long-term visas.  Just getting the visas is not too difficult, but it does require a visit to a consulate in the US, in person, and providing proof of financial resources and health insurance coverage.  I also don't know how someone on a boat  would prove that they had a long-term place to stay in the EU, if the boat is not acceptable.  We have a house here, so that was not an issue.

For people who think this is a bit much, our friends here all complain about the process for visiting the US - same aggravation, high costs, and I think that foreign boats in the US have to call in whenever they move from one port to another, which would be a real pain for Chesapeake Bay cruisers, or someone just moving along the ICW.

Ralph Caruso


Re: [Amel] Re: Foreign boats in the EU

Chris Smither <yachtakwaaba@...>
 

Bill,
   I am not sure, but in the depths of my memory I seem to recall that there is a Schengen visa, (?Class D??) which allows extended stay in the EU. You have to apply in your own country, and it does cover multiple entries. It is issued for study, extended family visits, retirement....and a few others

   Of course everything might have changed, but this might be worth a look....

Mike
S/V Akwaaba
Santorin SN027



________________________________
From: Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@svbebe.com>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 4:57 PM
Subject: [Amel] Re: Foreign boats in the EU


 
We are American...BeBe is a US registered and documented yacht without any EU VAT being paid. We are in the Med.

It is our understanding and experience that what you have received and posted is accurate.

However, immigration is just as big of an issue for Americans in the Med. Because of the EU Schengen Agreement, Americans are only allowed 90 days within the EU, then have to stay out of the EU for 90 days before returning for another 90 days. If an American in Italy travels to Spain for a weekend and returns to Italy, he will not get the benefit of a renewed visa for two reasons. 1.) Spain is part of the EU. 2.) You have to remain out of the EU for 90 days.

We were in Turkey (non-EU) for 60 days, then Greek Islands (EU) for 85 days, and now we are in Northern Cyprus (technically non-EU). We will winter in Northern Cyprus. In the spring we will return to Turkey where we are allowed 90 days. More importantly we can take a short ferry ride to a Greek Island and return the same day with 90 more days.

We do not know how we are going to manage this 90 day in/out rule when we get to the western Med. I think Tripoli is probably out of the question!

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387
Currently N Cyprus

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, " Anne and John Hollamby" <annejohnholl@...> wrote:

I met an American who was intending to winter in Italy and I thought that he might become liable for VAT so I asked the Royal Yachting Association for advice which I set out below for the benefit of any affected owners.
It is of course only the opinion of the UK Tax Office and other countries may take a different view !

Anne and John, Bali Hai, SM319



From: Stuart Carruthers
Sent: 23 September 2011 11:55
To: ' Anne and John Hollamby'
Subject: RE: VAT P/N H13105


Without knowing the precise details it is difficult to give precise advice. He may well have done his homework and everything is in order. There is also the possibility that the Italian authorities take a different view locally. I can only give general guidance provided by HMRC in respect of Temporary Admission, which in theory should be the same throughout the EU.


Subject to certain conditions vessels which are temporarily imported from outside the EU for private use may be eligible for relief from duty and VAT.

The vessel must be:

· registered outside the customs territory of the EU in the name of a person established outside the customs territory of the EU. If it is not registered it must belong to someone who has their normal place of residence outside the customs territory of EU; and

· be used by a non EU resident.

· The vessel must also be clearly identifiable, for example by registration number/ certificate, name of the vessel or hull identification number.

· If used by a non EU resident, the period of relief is up to 18 months. However, if the vessel has been rehired by an EU hire service for private use, the vessel must be re-exported outside the EU within 8 days of the hire.


Clearly it will be up to the non EU boat owner to make sure that he has his paperwork in order.


Regards


Stuart Carruthers

RYA Cruising Manager

Royal Yachting Association

T: 02380 604230 | M: 07909992382 | E: stuart.carruthers@...




RYA House, Ensign Way, Hamble, Southampton, Hampshire, SO31 4YA
www.rya.org.uk T: 02380 604100 F: 02380 604299






From: Anne and John Hollamby [mailto:annejohnholl@...]
Sent: 23 September 2011 11:13
To: Stuart Carruthers
Subject: VAT P/N H13105


Hello Stuart,

We are in a marina in italy and there is a non EU boat near us. The owner has booked in for the winter season six months and believes that he has no reason to worry. I think he is wrong. Please send me advice so I can give him defiitive advice.


Many thanks, John Hollamby







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Re: [Amel] Foreign boats in the EU

Paul LaFrance <pflafrance@...>
 

We also checked with Amel on this and they stated as long as the vessel was registered to a personnal name and not a corporation it would apply as outlined below. Vessels incorporated (vessel owned by a corporation) do not get the 18 months.

Paul LaFrance
SV NOMAD SM #362



To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
From: annejohnholl@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 11:03:07 +0200
Subject: [Amel] Foreign boats in the EU






I met an American who was intending to winter in Italy and I thought that he might become liable for VAT so I asked the Royal Yachting Association for advice which I set out below for the benefit of any affected owners.
It is of course only the opinion of the UK Tax Office and other countries may take a different view !

Anne and John, Bali Hai, SM319

From: Stuart Carruthers
Sent: 23 September 2011 11:55
To: ' Anne and John Hollamby'
Subject: RE: VAT P/N H13105

Without knowing the precise details it is difficult to give precise advice. He may well have done his homework and everything is in order. There is also the possibility that the Italian authorities take a different view locally. I can only give general guidance provided by HMRC in respect of Temporary Admission, which in theory should be the same throughout the EU.

Subject to certain conditions vessels which are temporarily imported from outside the EU for private use may be eligible for relief from duty and VAT.

The vessel must be:

registered outside the customs territory of the EU in the name of a person established outside the customs territory of the EU. If it is not registered it must belong to someone who has their normal place of residence outside the customs territory of EU; and

be used by a non EU resident.

The vessel must also be clearly identifiable, for example by registration number/ certificate, name of the vessel or hull identification number.

If used by a non EU resident, the period of relief is up to 18 months. However, if the vessel has been rehired by an EU hire service for private use, the vessel must be re-exported outside the EU within 8 days of the hire.

Clearly it will be up to the non EU boat owner to make sure that he has his paperwork in order.

Regards

Stuart Carruthers

RYA Cruising Manager

Royal Yachting Association

T: 02380 604230 | M: 07909992382 | E: stuart.carruthers@rya.org.uk


RYA House, Ensign Way, Hamble, Southampton, Hampshire, SO31 4YA
www.rya.org.uk T: 02380 604100 F: 02380 604299


From: Anne and John Hollamby [mailto:annejohnholl@gmail.com]
Sent: 23 September 2011 11:13
To: Stuart Carruthers
Subject: VAT P/N H13105

Hello Stuart,

We are in a marina in italy and there is a non EU boat near us. The owner has booked in for the winter season six months and believes that he has no reason to worry. I think he is wrong. Please send me advice so I can give him defiitive advice.

Many thanks, John Hollamby

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Re: Foreign boats in the EU

Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@...>
 

We are American...BeBe is a US registered and documented yacht without any EU VAT being paid. We are in the Med.

It is our understanding and experience that what you have received and posted is accurate.

However, immigration is just as big of an issue for Americans in the Med. Because of the EU Schengen Agreement, Americans are only allowed 90 days within the EU, then have to stay out of the EU for 90 days before returning for another 90 days. If an American in Italy travels to Spain for a weekend and returns to Italy, he will not get the benefit of a renewed visa for two reasons. 1.) Spain is part of the EU. 2.) You have to remain out of the EU for 90 days.

We were in Turkey (non-EU) for 60 days, then Greek Islands (EU) for 85 days, and now we are in Northern Cyprus (technically non-EU). We will winter in Northern Cyprus. In the spring we will return to Turkey where we are allowed 90 days. More importantly we can take a short ferry ride to a Greek Island and return the same day with 90 more days.

We do not know how we are going to manage this 90 day in/out rule when we get to the western Med. I think Tripoli is probably out of the question!

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387
Currently N Cyprus

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, " Anne and John Hollamby" <annejohnholl@...> wrote:

I met an American who was intending to winter in Italy and I thought that he might become liable for VAT so I asked the Royal Yachting Association for advice which I set out below for the benefit of any affected owners.
It is of course only the opinion of the UK Tax Office and other countries may take a different view !

Anne and John, Bali Hai, SM319



From: Stuart Carruthers
Sent: 23 September 2011 11:55
To: ' Anne and John Hollamby'
Subject: RE: VAT P/N H13105


Without knowing the precise details it is difficult to give precise advice. He may well have done his homework and everything is in order. There is also the possibility that the Italian authorities take a different view locally. I can only give general guidance provided by HMRC in respect of Temporary Admission, which in theory should be the same throughout the EU.


Subject to certain conditions vessels which are temporarily imported from outside the EU for private use may be eligible for relief from duty and VAT.

The vessel must be:

· registered outside the customs territory of the EU in the name of a person established outside the customs territory of the EU. If it is not registered it must belong to someone who has their normal place of residence outside the customs territory of EU; and

· be used by a non EU resident.

· The vessel must also be clearly identifiable, for example by registration number/ certificate, name of the vessel or hull identification number.

· If used by a non EU resident, the period of relief is up to 18 months. However, if the vessel has been rehired by an EU hire service for private use, the vessel must be re-exported outside the EU within 8 days of the hire.


Clearly it will be up to the non EU boat owner to make sure that he has his paperwork in order.


Regards


Stuart Carruthers

RYA Cruising Manager

Royal Yachting Association

T: 02380 604230 | M: 07909992382 | E: stuart.carruthers@...




RYA House, Ensign Way, Hamble, Southampton, Hampshire, SO31 4YA
www.rya.org.uk T: 02380 604100 F: 02380 604299






From: Anne and John Hollamby [mailto:annejohnholl@...]
Sent: 23 September 2011 11:13
To: Stuart Carruthers
Subject: VAT P/N H13105


Hello Stuart,

We are in a marina in italy and there is a non EU boat near us. The owner has booked in for the winter season six months and believes that he has no reason to worry. I think he is wrong. Please send me advice so I can give him defiitive advice.


Many thanks, John Hollamby







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Antifouling Ameron

klausuecker <no_reply@...>
 

Hello,

we have very good experiences in using antifouling ABC # 3 AMERON for the last 11 years.

Now we like to find out a selling place for this product in Durban, Richards Bay or other places in South Africa.

Who can help us ?

Many thanks
Klaus


Foreign boats in the EU

Anne and John Hollamby <annejohnholl@...>
 

I met an American who was intending to winter in Italy and I thought that he might become liable for VAT so I asked the Royal Yachting Association for advice which I set out below for the benefit of any affected owners.
It is of course only the opinion of the UK Tax Office and other countries may take a different view !

Anne and John, Bali Hai, SM319



From: Stuart Carruthers
Sent: 23 September 2011 11:55
To: ' Anne and John Hollamby'
Subject: RE: VAT P/N H13105


Without knowing the precise details it is difficult to give precise advice. He may well have done his homework and everything is in order. There is also the possibility that the Italian authorities take a different view locally. I can only give general guidance provided by HMRC in respect of Temporary Admission, which in theory should be the same throughout the EU.


Subject to certain conditions vessels which are temporarily imported from outside the EU for private use may be eligible for relief from duty and VAT.

The vessel must be:

· registered outside the customs territory of the EU in the name of a person established outside the customs territory of the EU. If it is not registered it must belong to someone who has their normal place of residence outside the customs territory of EU; and

· be used by a non EU resident.

· The vessel must also be clearly identifiable, for example by registration number/ certificate, name of the vessel or hull identification number.

· If used by a non EU resident, the period of relief is up to 18 months. However, if the vessel has been rehired by an EU hire service for private use, the vessel must be re-exported outside the EU within 8 days of the hire.


Clearly it will be up to the non EU boat owner to make sure that he has his paperwork in order.


Regards


Stuart Carruthers

RYA Cruising Manager

Royal Yachting Association

T: 02380 604230 | M: 07909992382 | E: stuart.carruthers@rya.org.uk




RYA House, Ensign Way, Hamble, Southampton, Hampshire, SO31 4YA
www.rya.org.uk T: 02380 604100 F: 02380 604299






From: Anne and John Hollamby [mailto:annejohnholl@gmail.com]
Sent: 23 September 2011 11:13
To: Stuart Carruthers
Subject: VAT P/N H13105


Hello Stuart,

We are in a marina in italy and there is a non EU boat near us. The owner has booked in for the winter season six months and believes that he has no reason to worry. I think he is wrong. Please send me advice so I can give him defiitive advice.


Many thanks, John Hollamby







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Re: [Amel] Re: FW: How to get a tall mast under a low bridge.

Eric Freedman
 

There is more



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNjI0aB1AgQ
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNjI0aB1AgQ&feature=relmfu> &feature=relmfu





_____

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Judy and Bill aboard
SV BeBe
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 1:57 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Re: FW: How to get a tall mast under a low bridge.





Here is one that was tilted even farther over; completely on its side.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXHsNmQehr4
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXHsNmQehr4&feature=player_embedded>
&feature=player_embedded

Not doing this with my boat!!

Judy
S/V BeBe
SM2 #387


Re: [Amel] Re: Mainsail Euros 41

José Luis García-Serrano <eonoemedia@...>
 

Tks Paolo

2011/9/27 paolo <paolopepere@tiscali.it>

**




--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "tresliebres" <eonoemedia@...>
wrote:

Hi, I'm new to the group. First of all a greeting for everyone. Three
months ago I bought an Amel Euros 41 that needs a new mainsail. If someone
in the group has a healthy and wants to sell here you have a buyer. I also
want to know Luff and Foot if anyone knows to look on ebay.
If you search in this forum a file named: Amel Euros 39&41 you can find all
sails's sizes you need, good chance



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Re: Mainsail Euros 41

paolo <paolopepere@...>
 

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "tresliebres" <eonoemedia@...> wrote:

Hi, I'm new to the group. First of all a greeting for everyone. Three months ago I bought an Amel Euros 41 that needs a new mainsail. If someone in the group has a healthy and wants to sell here you have a buyer. I also want to know Luff and Foot if anyone knows to look on ebay.
If you search in this forum a file named: Amel Euros 39&41 you can find all sails's sizes you need, good chance


Re: FW: How to get a tall mast under a low bridge.

Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Here is one that was tilted even farther over; completely on its side.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXHsNmQehr4&feature=player_embedded

Not doing this with my boat!!

Judy
S/V BeBe
SM2 #387


Re: Mainsail Euros 41

Dave_Benjamin
 

As a sailmaker, I've seen people buy used sails with varying amounts of success. If you happen to get a response from a Euro owner, consider yourself very fortunate. It is going to be quite challenging to find a suitable sail on the secondary market.

Here's why. The Euros is a cruising boat with a modestly sized rig. A used sail to fit your boat will most likely have been built for a smaller and lighter craft. Thus it will have cloth that is too light for your purposes and other construction details are inadequate. As an example, we own a Maramu. The main on our boat is smaller than the mainsail on many boats that are under 40' and weigh half as much as we do.

Then you run into the real reason this is likely to be an unfulfilled quest. Few if any cruisers sell sails that are still in good serviceable condition. Most of the cruising sails we replace should have been replaced years ago. Racers will often sell sails that are still serviceable. However your mainsail isn't much larger than the mainsail on a J-27 that weighs 3800 lbs (1724 kg) so it would be a very short-lived solution at best.

Sails are your engine and in my opinion are not what you want to take shortcuts with. I've seen many boats with first rate electronics and other gadgets but poor sails. This past cruising season a boat went on a reef in Australia because their mainsail shredded while they were trying to sail out of harms way.

I've checked out databases for rig dimensions for the Euros but we don't have it listed. I am happy to send you a measurement worksheet and instructions on how to measure your rig. One issue you are likely to encounter is that the tack setback may not be compatible and the tack attachment will be klugey. Similar problems may be encountered with the clew attachment if you have an outhaul car. Then there's the issue of luff hardware. You may need to web on new hardware or pay a sailmaker to do it. If the used sail has nylon slides that have been in use for more than 5 years, they should be replaced with new slides. Use Alsplip or PTFE coated stainless slides at the headboard and where any full battens attach.

If I can be of assistance, feel free to contact me off-list.

Regards,

Dave Benjamin
S/V Exit Strategy
Amel Maramu #29
Owner - Island Planet Sails
www.IslandPlanetSails.com

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "tresliebres" <eonoemedia@...> wrote:

Hi, I'm new to the group. First of all a greeting for everyone. Three months ago I bought an Amel Euros 41 that needs a new mainsail. If someone in the group has a healthy and wants to sell here you have a buyer. I also want to know Luff and Foot if anyone knows to look on ebay.


Super Maramu Dishwasher

seafeverofcuan <seafeverofcuan@...>
 

I have taken out the dishwasher from my 2004 Super Maramu Redline Hull no 425.
The boat is in Trinidad, I will be back on board from 10th October. Anyone interested please contact me on trevorlusty@hotmail.com or call +447803020888.
Trevor Lusty
Sea Fever of Cuan


Mainsail Euros 41

tresliebres <eonoemedia@...>
 

Hi, I'm new to the group. First of all a greeting for everyone. Three months ago I bought an Amel Euros 41 that needs a new mainsail. If someone in the group has a healthy and wants to sell here you have a buyer. I also want to know Luff and Foot if anyone knows to look on ebay.


Re: [Amel] FW: How to get a tall mast under a low bridge.

Chris Smither <yachtakwaaba@...>
 

Hi
Try this link

http://www.davidparrot.com/David_Parrot/In_Movies.html


The video is called ' Boat Balls2' and is on YouTube
David Parrot seems to have been a remarkable man.
Hope you can view it,
Cheers

Chris and Mike



________________________________
From: Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@xtra.co.nz>
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] FW: How to get a tall mast under a low bridge.


 
Hi John, for some reason copuldn't open this/ Any chance of sending it in a different format.
Regards
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl
Mangonui
New Zealand 

From: john martin <symoondog@hotmail.com>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, 26 September 2011 5:09 AM
Subject: [Amel] FW: How to get a tall mast under a low bridge.

 


From: symoondog@hotmail.com

I guess now we can all take our Amels down the intercoastal waterway. Who wants to go first.? And his mast was 80 feet tall.!!!!!

From: symoondog@hotmail.com
To: Subject: Re: Awesome Sailing Maneuver (Video)

http://dailypicksandflicks.com/2011/09/15/awesome-sailing-maneuver-video/

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Re: [Amel] FW: How to get a tall mast under a low bridge.

Barbara Nairne
 

Hi John,Same prob here too - said something about being forbidden on this server!!! RegardsBarbSueno AzulSuper Maramu No.39Mooloolaba QLD

--- On Mon, 26/9/11, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@xtra.co.nz> wrote:

From: Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@xtra.co.nz>
Subject: Re: [Amel] FW: How to get a tall mast under a low bridge.
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Received: Monday, 26 September, 2011, 2:14 PM
















 









Hi John, for some reason copuldn't open this/ Any chance of sending it in a different format.

Regards

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

Mangonui

New Zealand 



From: john martin <symoondog@hotmail.com>

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, 26 September 2011 5:09 AM

Subject: [Amel] FW: How to get a tall mast under a low bridge.



 





From: symoondog@hotmail.com



I guess now we can all take our Amels down the intercoastal waterway. Who wants to go first.? And his mast was 80 feet tall.!!!!!



From: symoondog@hotmail.com

To: Subject: Re: Awesome Sailing Maneuver (Video)



http://dailypicksandflicks.com/2011/09/15/awesome-sailing-maneuver-video/



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Re: [Amel] FW: How to get a tall mast under a low bridge.

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi John, for some reason copuldn't open this/ Any chance of sending it in a different format.
Regards
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl
Mangonui
New Zealand 

From: john martin <symoondog@hotmail.com>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, 26 September 2011 5:09 AM
Subject: [Amel] FW: How to get a tall mast under a low bridge.


 



From: symoondog@hotmail.com

I guess now we can all take our Amels down the intercoastal waterway. Who wants to go first.? And his mast was 80 feet tall.!!!!!


From: symoondog@hotmail.com
To: Subject: Re: Awesome Sailing Maneuver (Video)

http://dailypicksandflicks.com/2011/09/15/awesome-sailing-maneuver-video/






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Re: [Amel] FW: How to get a tall mast under a low bridge.

karkauai
 

Couldn't open it John.
Kent
SM243
KRISTY


Re: [Amel] Re: Caribbean Rendezvous

karkauai
 

Sounds like fun, Kim. We'd make an effort to be there.
Kent & Dawn
SM2K 243
Kristy
Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone powered by Alltel


Re: Caribbean Rendezvous

Kimberly Cerillo <kcvabeach@...>
 

Would anybody be interested in an Amel Yacht Rendezvous in the British
Virgin Islands in March?



It would be the perfect opportunity for owners of Amel Yachts to participate
in an exclusive Amel event. We could have fun 'races' from one overnight
anchorage to the next that everyone could enjoy. The setting of the British
Virgin Islands are a stunningly beautiful backdrop for this event.



This would be the ideal venue for Amel owners to meet, exchange ideas,
information and adventures. We would be able to view modifications many of
us have made to our yachts first hand, as well as being able to put a face
to the names that we see on the website.



I would love to get an Amel representative to participate, as this would be
a great opportunity for question and answer sessions, (a great takeaway for
Amel in developing their yachts) advise on industry advancements and
challenges as well as the opportunity to get to know the owners of one of
the finest cruising yachts in the world.



If anyone is interested in this, please let me know, as we live in Puerto
Rico, it would be easy for us to start the wheels turning on locations,
registrations and pricing.





Kim and George Cerillo

SM #353 Indecent