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Re: [Amel] Current in the bow truster at starting !! (link is her corect)

Dimitris Krassopoulos <dkra@...>
 

You can make all the parts in a local machine shop. You can manufacture them
by high tensil metal without a problem and they are going to function much
better than the original parts. You should leave the plastic screws on the
propeller as a fuse if you catch a rope or plastic bag. According to others
you can put grease instead of oil so the bowthruster is going to work more
smoothly. I know that the whole system is a weak point of the SM this one of
the reasons that I decided to buy the Amel 54. Regarding your decision to
buy an Oyster I am sure that you are going to have much more problems with
the after sales support as the boats are manufactured in different yards
with different parts. The important thing with Amel boats of the same
generation is that they are more or less the same with same parts.



Regards



Dimitris



From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jlm@jlmertz.fr
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 9:23 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel] Current in the bow truster at starting !! (link is her
corect)





YES,
The torque at starting is to height and perhaps the nominal torque,
All the pieces that brake (see photos) brook under normal condition.
Actually I am studying adding a soft start (for next year)
I am not happy with AMEL after sales they refuse to replace the parts so
Next boat will be an OYSTER .....
JLuc
----------------------------------------------------------

Le 09/10/2011 20:01, kimberlite a écrit :

Jean-luc.

Do I understand correctly that all the parts listed in your email broke
while using your bow thruster?

Did it happen at one time?

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

?

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< <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
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<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Jean-Luc
Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2011 12:23 PM
To: <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
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Subject: [Amel] Current in the bow truster at starting !! (link is her
corect)

I broke without making a wrong action :
- All nylon screw of the propeller,
- The motor shaft
- The internal parts

so I recently measured the current in the bowthuster: 950A! at starting.
You can see the graphics in the Photo section :
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/1499947610/pic/li
st

Hopping it can help you anderstandsomme some problems.
jluc CottonBay

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Re: [Amel] Current in the bow truster at starting !! (link is her corect)

jlm@jlmertz.fr
 

YES,
The torque at starting is to height and perhaps the nominal torque,
All the pieces that brake (see photos) brook under normal condition.
Actually I am studying adding a soft start (for next year)
I am not happy with AMEL after sales they refuse to replace the parts so
Next boat will be an OYSTER .....
JLuc
------------------------------------------------------------------------

Le 09/10/2011 20:01, kimberlite a écrit :

Jean-luc.

Do I understand correctly that all the parts listed in your email broke
while using your bow thruster?

Did it happen at one time?

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

?

_____

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Jean-Luc
Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2011 12:23 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Amel] Current in the bow truster at starting !! (link is her
corect)

I broke without making a wrong action :
- All nylon screw of the propeller,
- The motor shaft
- The internal parts

so I recently measured the current in the bowthuster: 950A! at starting.
You can see the graphics in the Photo section :
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/1499947610/pic/li
st

Hopping it can help you anderstandsomme some problems.
jluc CottonBay

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Re: [Amel] Current in the bow truster at starting !! (link is her corect)

Eric Freedman
 

Jean-luc.

Do I understand correctly that all the parts listed in your email broke
while using your bow thruster?

Did it happen at one time?

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

?



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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jean-Luc
Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2011 12:23 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Current in the bow truster at starting !! (link is her
corect)





I broke without making a wrong action :
- All nylon screw of the propeller,
- The motor shaft
- The internal parts

so I recently measured the current in the bowthuster: 950A! at starting.
You can see the graphics in the Photo section :
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/1499947610/pic/li
st

Hopping it can help you anderstandsomme some problems.
jluc CottonBay


Current in the bow truster at starting !! (link is her corect)

jlm@jlmertz.fr
 

I broke without making a wrong action :
- All nylon screw of the propeller,
- The motor shaft
- The internal parts

so I recently measured the current in the bowthuster: 950A! at starting.
You can see the graphics in the Photo section : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/1499947610/pic/list

Hopping it can help you anderstandsomme some problems.
jluc CottonBay


Bow Thruster : current at starting

jlm@jlmertz.fr
 

I broke without making a wrong action :
- All nylon screw of the propeller,
- The motor shaft
- The internal parts

so I recently measured the current in the bowthuster: 950A! at starting.
You can see the graphics in the Photo section : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/1499947610/pic/list.

Hopping it can help you anderstandsomme some problems.
jluc CottonBay


Loose wood trim on fuel tank

Eric Freedman
 

I had a problem with the wood trim on the top inboard edge of the fuel tank
coming loose.

After reattaching the trim with 4200 adhesive I fashioned 2 braces of
stainless to prevent the trim from ever loosening again

They are the last photos in the Kimberlite photo file.

Fair Winds

Eric

Super Maramu 376 Kimberlite


Re: [Amel] AMEL 54 - Annapolis Sailboat Show

Sailing Vessel Bozo Cinq <bozocinq@...>
 

Diane and Pat,



Thank you very much for you kind words about my AMEL 54 "Bozo Cinq". The
true value and quality of a boat is the condition it is in after 5 years out
in the environment. I will tell you that we have had a terrific time on the
vessel doing an Atlantic crossing, Caribbean, Trinidad, Curacao, Turks and
Caicos, Bahamas, Florida and now Chesapeake Bay. WOW, what great memories!
It now has 10,000 nautical miles under the hull. The AMEL is a very, very
easy boat to maintain. For people that want to cruise the AMEL is a terrific
vessel for the money. I have yet to run across another brand that can come
close to the quality and seaworthiness of an AMEL. Sadly, our decision to
sell, it is time that we need to move to a trawler type vessel.



Gary L. Wollenberg

Sailing Vessel "Bozo Cinq"

bozocinq@wollenberg.net





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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of dianexnielsen@aol.com
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 8:36 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel] AMEL 54 - Annapolis Sailboat Show






Gary,

Pat and I are in Annapolis for the Sailboat Show. We boarded lots of boats
at the show today, the Oyster, Passport, Hylas etc and then I said let's go
see the 54 Amel which was a 2 second walk from the show. We spoke to the
broker who gave us permission to board. The boat is immaculate and
absolutely beautiful. Your boat just blew all those other high end yachts
away. I walked off your boat and said, that it is the most beautiful boat in
the show, and actually should be in the show. Nothing beats the Amel. They
take your breath away. I really wish Amel would return to this show, their
presence is missed.

Diane and Pat
Anchored in from of the Naval Academy, Annapolis
sv Shenanigans #123

-----Original Message-----
From: bozo_cinq <bozocinq@wollenberg.net <mailto:bozocinq%40wollenberg.net>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> >
Sent: Wed, Sep 21, 2011 5:13 pm
Subject: [Amel] AMEL 54 - Annapolis Sailboat Show

If any of you are going to attend the upcoming Annapolis Sailboat show. This
is to let you know that my AMEL 54 will be on display at the Annapolis
Sailboat show October 6-10th. For photo's & specification go to
www.walczakyach.com and click on "Yachts For Sale".

Gary, AMEL 54 #44


Re: [Amel] AMEL 54 - Annapolis Sailboat Show

dianexnielsen@...
 

Gary,

Pat and I are in Annapolis for the Sailboat Show. We boarded lots of boats at the show today, the Oyster, Passport, Hylas etc and then I said let's go see the 54 Amel which was a 2 second walk from the show. We spoke to the broker who gave us permission to board. The boat is immaculate and absolutely beautiful. Your boat just blew all those other high end yachts away. I walked off your boat and said, that it is the most beautiful boat in the show, and actually should be in the show. Nothing beats the Amel. They take your breath away. I really wish Amel would return to this show, their presence is missed.

Diane and Pat
Anchored in from of the Naval Academy, Annapolis
sv Shenanigans #123

-----Original Message-----
From: bozo_cinq <bozocinq@wollenberg.net>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, Sep 21, 2011 5:13 pm
Subject: [Amel] AMEL 54 - Annapolis Sailboat Show




If any of you are going to attend the upcoming Annapolis Sailboat show. This is to let you know that my AMEL 54 will be on display at the Annapolis Sailboat show October 6-10th. For photo's & specification go to www.walczakyach.com and click on "Yachts For Sale".

Gary, AMEL 54 #44


Re: Mast paint

Jose Venegas
 

That is a great suggestion, Thanks

Jose
Ipanema SM278

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "John Hollamby" <annejohnholl@...> wrote:

I followed previous advice. one answer was a Reanult car paint number and the other,which I used,was to take the plastic cover near the base of the mast to an auto paint supplier and they will make up a computer selected copy of the colour. I was given a perfect match.

Regards, Anne and John, Bali Hai, SM319


Re: [Amel] Frigoboat Refrigerator

Dimitris Krassopoulos <dkra@...>
 

Bill,



The colors are the new Amel standard they do not make any custom coloring as
you know.



Regards



Dimitris



From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Judy and Bill aboard
SV BeBe
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 8:25 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel] Frigoboat Refrigerator







Thanks Pat...I will await your response...please check my thoughts below:

Thanks Serge and Dimitris...and Dimitris, of course I remember you in Soros.
I wanted to ask you if the boot stripe and rub rail color was something
custom you had done. The platinum color really changes the overall
appearance of the 54. I noticed that the 55 uses this color.

My Thoughts:
I am beginning to think that there may be some moisture in the line that
freezes causing an obstruction, or possibly some other material causing an
obstruction.

I am sure the control box turns the compressor OFF with high pressure or
high heat. I wish I knew if under this circumstance where the compressor is
turned OFF for high pressure or temp by the Control Module, and assuming
that the thermostat is closed (on), if the Control Module is programmed to
turn back on without a delay. The delay is important for the pressure to
reduce before the compressor turns back on.

Best,

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387
Currently N. Cyprus

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , Diane Nielsen
<dianexnielsen@...> wrote:

Hi Bill, Pat and I are on our way sailing to Annapolis for the annual
sailboat show. I will read your email to the Frigoboat vendor when we attend
the show tomorrow.

Diane & Pat
Shenanigans
SM#123

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 6, 2011, at 5:08 AM, "Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe"
<yahoogroups@...> wrote:

I am looking for advice.

The Frigoboat refrigerator cycles on/off frequently and is showing an
error code of 3 flashes which according to Frigoboat, "Indicates that the
compressor cannot start due to too high a differential pressure in the
compressor. This is a common problem where poor voltage, or breaks in the
power supply or thermostat wiring cause the controller to attempt a
compressor restart too soon after it has been stopped for some reason. It
can also be caused by a refrigerant overcharge."

I have replaced the Danfoss control box, part number #101N0210, and the
Frigaboat thermostat, Part number E250500. I replaced these at different
times and each time defrosted and removed the refrigerator. Each time I also
checked all wiring connections. Each time when I re-installed and turned on
the refrigerator, it worked fine for 2-3 days, freezing the freezer
compartment and the temperature in the refrigerator at 41 degrees
Fahrenheit. It would cycle normally for 2-3 days, then start the short cycle
and the 3 flash error code.

The closed system has never been touched with gauges or the addition of
Freon.

We are not currently where we can get expert repair service.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this?

Best,

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387
Currently Northern Cyprus




Mast paint

John Hollamby <annejohnholl@...>
 

I followed previous advice. one answer was a Reanult car paint number and the other,which I used,was to take the plastic cover near the base of the mast to an auto paint supplier and they will make up a computer selected copy of the colour. I was given a perfect match.

Regards, Anne and John, Bali Hai, SM319


Re: [Amel] Frigoboat Refrigerator

Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Thanks Pat...I will await your response...please check my thoughts below:

Thanks Serge and Dimitris...and Dimitris, of course I remember you in Soros. I wanted to ask you if the boot stripe and rub rail color was something custom you had done. The platinum color really changes the overall appearance of the 54. I noticed that the 55 uses this color.

My Thoughts:
I am beginning to think that there may be some moisture in the line that freezes causing an obstruction, or possibly some other material causing an obstruction.

I am sure the control box turns the compressor OFF with high pressure or high heat. I wish I knew if under this circumstance where the compressor is turned OFF for high pressure or temp by the Control Module, and assuming that the thermostat is closed (on), if the Control Module is programmed to turn back on without a delay. The delay is important for the pressure to reduce before the compressor turns back on.

Best,

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387
Currently N. Cyprus

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Diane Nielsen <dianexnielsen@...> wrote:

Hi Bill, Pat and I are on our way sailing to Annapolis for the annual sailboat show. I will read your email to the Frigoboat vendor when we attend the show tomorrow.

Diane & Pat
Shenanigans
SM#123

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 6, 2011, at 5:08 AM, "Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe" <yahoogroups@...> wrote:

I am looking for advice.

The Frigoboat refrigerator cycles on/off frequently and is showing an error code of 3 flashes which according to Frigoboat, "Indicates that the compressor cannot start due to too high a differential pressure in the compressor. This is a common problem where poor voltage, or breaks in the power supply or thermostat wiring cause the controller to attempt a compressor restart too soon after it has been stopped for some reason. It can also be caused by a refrigerant overcharge."

I have replaced the Danfoss control box, part number #101N0210, and the Frigaboat thermostat, Part number E250500. I replaced these at different times and each time defrosted and removed the refrigerator. Each time I also checked all wiring connections. Each time when I re-installed and turned on the refrigerator, it worked fine for 2-3 days, freezing the freezer compartment and the temperature in the refrigerator at 41 degrees Fahrenheit. It would cycle normally for 2-3 days, then start the short cycle and the 3 flash error code.

The closed system has never been touched with gauges or the addition of Freon.

We are not currently where we can get expert repair service.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this?

Best,

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387
Currently Northern Cyprus




Re: [Amel] Re: Adding grease to Genoa furling gearboxes on SM

Eric Freedman
 

Jose,

Thanks

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jose
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 4:34 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Re: Adding grease to Genoa furling gearboxes on SM





Eric,
Sorry about the delay, life has been hectic lately.

Photos posted Under Ipanama.

They also include a pix of the outhaul shaft extractor and a couple of other
things.

Enjoy them

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , kimberlite <kimberlite@...>
wrote:





Jose,

Did you post the photos of where you placed the nylon screws in the Genoa
furler?

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Jose
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 3:33 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Amel] Adding grease to Genoa and Main furling gearboxes on SM

Danny,

Thanks a lot for posting your method for adding grease to the gear boxes.
I
started to hear ominous sounds during Genoa furling and rapidly added two
careful drilled and threaded two access ports to the gearbox. I used the
same thread as that of the access ports of the auto prop as I was going to
use the bronze screws that remained from a recent overhaul of the
propeller.
However, I thought it would be best to use nylon hardware to avoid any
possible electrolysis. Using the same grease gun I had for the prop, I
injected new grease into one port and allowed it to flow out on the other
while periodically running the gearbox until the color of the exiting
grease
was close to that of the one I was injecting.
Magically the ominous sound calmed down to an quiet purr and I believe the
life of this gearbox may have been saved.

I plan to post a couple of pix of the process as I get back to the boat.

Thanks again!

Jose Venegas
Ipanema SM 2K
Constitution Marina, Boston

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
<simms@> wrote:

We were in Shelter bay Colon and decided to replace the bearings in the
outhaul gearbox as a precaution before the Pacific crossing.I removed the
boom inverted it and hit hard with my best hammer to no avail.In my former
life the standard procedure in this situation is the gas torch. I
approached
the yard to see if they could help and instead of a gas torch I got a big
man with a big wheel puller and large hammer. result, shattered end plate
on
the gear box. I then got what I had asked for, a gas torch and an
experience
operator. Less than a minute, a gentle tap and out it came. Yes some very
localised paint discoloration, very easy to fix. The story of how we got a
new end for the gearbox manufactured in Colon over a weekend is another
story, suffice to say there are fine tradesmen there if you can find
them..

regards
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl
Mangonui
New Zealand








Tips for Removing Masts

Jose Venegas
 

In preparation for our Atlantic Crossing next spring, I will be taking down the masts for inspection and PM. I have a couple of question:

1) what do you do with the radar and other long cables?
2) any special spots to look for deterioration?
3) Where can I find the mast paint in the USA?

Any other tips will be greatly appreciated.

BTH, I just posted a few pix under Ipanema.

Thanks in advance,

Jose

Ipanema SM2K 278
Boston


Re: Adding grease to Genoa furling gearboxes on SM

Jose Venegas
 

Eric,
Sorry about the delay, life has been hectic lately.

Photos posted Under Ipanama.

They also include a pix of the outhaul shaft extractor and a couple of other things.

Enjoy them

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, kimberlite <kimberlite@...> wrote:





Jose,

Did you post the photos of where you placed the nylon screws in the Genoa
furler?

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

_____

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Jose
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 3:33 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Amel] Adding grease to Genoa and Main furling gearboxes on SM

Danny,

Thanks a lot for posting your method for adding grease to the gear boxes. I
started to hear ominous sounds during Genoa furling and rapidly added two
careful drilled and threaded two access ports to the gearbox. I used the
same thread as that of the access ports of the auto prop as I was going to
use the bronze screws that remained from a recent overhaul of the propeller.
However, I thought it would be best to use nylon hardware to avoid any
possible electrolysis. Using the same grease gun I had for the prop, I
injected new grease into one port and allowed it to flow out on the other
while periodically running the gearbox until the color of the exiting grease
was close to that of the one I was injecting.
Magically the ominous sound calmed down to an quiet purr and I believe the
life of this gearbox may have been saved.

I plan to post a couple of pix of the process as I get back to the boat.

Thanks again!

Jose Venegas
Ipanema SM 2K
Constitution Marina, Boston

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
<simms@> wrote:

We were in Shelter bay Colon and decided to replace the bearings in the
outhaul gearbox as a precaution before the Pacific crossing.I removed the
boom inverted it and hit hard with my best hammer to no avail.In my former
life the standard procedure in this situation is the gas torch. I approached
the yard to see if they could help and instead of a gas torch I got a big
man with a big wheel puller and large hammer. result, shattered end plate on
the gear box. I then got what I had asked for, a gas torch and an experience
operator. Less than a minute, a gentle tap and out it came. Yes some very
localised paint discoloration, very easy to fix. The story of how we got a
new end for the gearbox manufactured in Colon over a weekend is another
story, suffice to say there are fine tradesmen there if you can find them..

regards
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl
Mangonui
New Zealand
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Rép. : [Amel] Frigoboat Refrigerator

Serge Tremblay <laetitiaii@...>
 

If there is no glitch in the compressor, evidenced by a low high pressure, the other reason for the high differential pressure may be a contamination/obstruction of the capilary. In the old days, when refrigerant polution was not an issue and no vacuum pump was available, we used to discharge the system from the high side and refill it again from the low side- I beleive the current Danfoss BD 50 requires about 3.5 ounces of gas, so even with older compressors, it was rather inexpensive. The process was not only an attempt to eliminate particles which may have dislodged from inside the system's tubing wall but also a tiny amount of water which may have accumulated and freeze at the end of the capilary, thus blocking same.
 
Nowaday, the correct procedure is first securely empty the gas, then change the filter/dryer and vacuum the system for a few (or more) hours and then refill the sytem.
 
For more info or free advice visit Dick Kolman's web site.
 
BTW I have changed my whole system (refrigerator and compressor) to which I have added sea water cooling, and , in the tropics, the efficiency is worth the expense...
 
Serge      V/Opera  Mango #51


--- En date de : Jeu, 6.10.11, Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@svbebe.com> a écrit :


De : Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@svbebe.com>
Objet : [Amel] Frigoboat Refrigerator
À : amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: jeudi 6 octobre 2011 05 h 08


 



I am looking for advice.

The Frigoboat refrigerator cycles on/off frequently and is showing an error code of 3 flashes which according to Frigoboat, "Indicates that the compressor cannot start due to too high a differential pressure in the compressor. This is a common problem where poor voltage, or breaks in the power supply or thermostat wiring cause the controller to attempt a compressor restart too soon after it has been stopped for some reason. It can also be caused by a refrigerant overcharge."

I have replaced the Danfoss control box, part number #101N0210, and the Frigaboat thermostat, Part number E250500. I replaced these at different times and each time defrosted and removed the refrigerator. Each time I also checked all wiring connections. Each time when I re-installed and turned on the refrigerator, it worked fine for 2-3 days, freezing the freezer compartment and the temperature in the refrigerator at 41 degrees Fahrenheit. It would cycle normally for 2-3 days, then start the short cycle and the 3 flash error code.

The closed system has never been touched with gauges or the addition of Freon.

We are not currently where we can get expert repair service.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this?

Best,

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387
Currently Northern Cyprus








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Re: [Amel] Frigoboat Refrigerator

Dimitris Krassopoulos <dkra@...>
 

Bill,



If you remember me from Syros. Probably you need to put some Freon in the system I had a similar problem on my SM2000.



Regards



Dimitris

Alma Libre Too

www.almalibre.gr







From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Diane Nielsen
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 4:41 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel] Frigoboat Refrigerator





Hi Bill, Pat and I are on our way sailing to Annapolis for the annual sailboat show. I will read your email to the Frigoboat vendor when we attend the show tomorrow.

Diane & Pat
Shenanigans
SM#123
On Oct 6, 2011, at 5:08 AM, "Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe" <yahoogroups@svbebe.com <mailto:yahoogroups%40svbebe.com> > wrote:

I am looking for advice.

The Frigoboat refrigerator cycles on/off frequently and is showing an error code of 3 flashes which according to Frigoboat, "Indicates that the compressor cannot start due to too high a differential pressure in the compressor. This is a common problem where poor voltage, or breaks in the power supply or thermostat wiring cause the controller to attempt a compressor restart too soon after it has been stopped for some reason. It can also be caused by a refrigerant overcharge."

I have replaced the Danfoss control box, part number #101N0210, and the Frigaboat thermostat, Part number E250500. I replaced these at different times and each time defrosted and removed the refrigerator. Each time I also checked all wiring connections. Each time when I re-installed and turned on the refrigerator, it worked fine for 2-3 days, freezing the freezer compartment and the temperature in the refrigerator at 41 degrees Fahrenheit. It would cycle normally for 2-3 days, then start the short cycle and the 3 flash error code.

The closed system has never been touched with gauges or the addition of Freon.

We are not currently where we can get expert repair service.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this?

Best,

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387
Currently Northern Cyprus







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Amel Euros 41 Stix

tresliebres <eonoemedia@...>
 

Hi,someone knows the Stix of Amel Euros 41?, and if can be considered a Bluewater?. I bought one, and the naval architect who is preparing the documentation for registered in Spain, tells me that his Stix is below 32 and can not be considered an offshore racing boat. It is a boat capable of crossing the Atlantic?. Thank you for your answers


Re: [Amel] Frigoboat Refrigerator

Diane Nielsen <dianexnielsen@...>
 

Hi Bill, Pat and I are on our way sailing to Annapolis for the annual sailboat show. I will read your email to the Frigoboat vendor when we attend the show tomorrow.

Diane & Pat
Shenanigans
SM#123
On Oct 6, 2011, at 5:08 AM, "Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe" <yahoogroups@svbebe.com> wrote:

I am looking for advice.

The Frigoboat refrigerator cycles on/off frequently and is showing an error code of 3 flashes which according to Frigoboat, "Indicates that the compressor cannot start due to too high a differential pressure in the compressor. This is a common problem where poor voltage, or breaks in the power supply or thermostat wiring cause the controller to attempt a compressor restart too soon after it has been stopped for some reason. It can also be caused by a refrigerant overcharge."

I have replaced the Danfoss control box, part number #101N0210, and the Frigaboat thermostat, Part number E250500. I replaced these at different times and each time defrosted and removed the refrigerator. Each time I also checked all wiring connections. Each time when I re-installed and turned on the refrigerator, it worked fine for 2-3 days, freezing the freezer compartment and the temperature in the refrigerator at 41 degrees Fahrenheit. It would cycle normally for 2-3 days, then start the short cycle and the 3 flash error code.

The closed system has never been touched with gauges or the addition of Freon.

We are not currently where we can get expert repair service.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this?

Best,

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387
Currently Northern Cyprus


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Re: [Amel] Adding grease to Genoa furling gearboxes on SM

jlm@jlmertz.fr
 

Le 06/10/2011 04:50, kimberlite a écrit :



Jose,

Did you post the photos of where you placed the nylon screws in the Genoa
furler?

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

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Subject: [Amel] Adding grease to Genoa and Main furling gearboxes on SM

Danny,

Thanks a lot for posting your method for adding grease to the gear
boxes. I
started to hear ominous sounds during Genoa furling and rapidly added two
careful drilled and threaded two access ports to the gearbox. I used the
same thread as that of the access ports of the auto prop as I was going to
use the bronze screws that remained from a recent overhaul of the
propeller.
However, I thought it would be best to use nylon hardware to avoid any
possible electrolysis. Using the same grease gun I had for the prop, I
injected new grease into one port and allowed it to flow out on the other
while periodically running the gearbox until the color of the exiting
grease
was close to that of the one I was injecting.
Magically the ominous sound calmed down to an quiet purr and I believe the
life of this gearbox may have been saved.

I plan to post a couple of pix of the process as I get back to the boat.

Thanks again!

Jose Venegas
Ipanema SM 2K
Constitution Marina, Boston

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<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
<simms@...> wrote:

We were in Shelter bay Colon and decided to replace the bearings in the
outhaul gearbox as a precaution before the Pacific crossing.I removed the
boom inverted it and hit hard with my best hammer to no avail.In my former
life the standard procedure in this situation is the gas torch. I
approached
the yard to see if they could help and instead of a gas torch I got a big
man with a big wheel puller and large hammer. result, shattered end
plate on
the gear box. I then got what I had asked for, a gas torch and an
experience
operator. Less than a minute, a gentle tap and out it came. Yes some very
localised paint discoloration, very easy to fix. The story of how we got a
new end for the gearbox manufactured in Colon over a weekend is another
story, suffice to say there are fine tradesmen there if you can find
them..

regards
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl
Mangonui
New Zealand
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Thank'you in advence for your pictures
merci
jl mertz
CottonBay
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