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Re: cocpit table for amel maramu

Dave_Benjamin
 

Lior,

We found the original table to be a bit large and cumbersome. If I were building from scratch, I would not copy that one. A smaller one that attaches to the mizzen mast with a flip-down leg seems to work well.

--- In amelyachtowners@..., Lior <lior246@...> wrote:

hello all
i would like to make a cocpit table for my old maramu.
does anyone have maybe a plan, picture or any tips how to fix it and make it comftable?

thanks a lot in advance for your tips.

lior
sababa, maramu #155






Re: Maramu holding tank

Dave_Benjamin
 

Ross,

Congrats. You will undoubtedly love your new boat. We have hull #29, one of the very early ones.

We converted our aft head to storage so the toilet was removed. If I were to re-install a toilet, I would seriously consider one of the composting models. I've done a lot of research on them and they seem to be serving people quite well.

We have a Lavac in the forward toilet compartment with a holding tank under the forepeak berth on port. I like the Lavac and designed a rather novel plumbing arrangement that works exceedingly well. It requires 3 diverter (aka Y-valves) valves but it provides utmost flexibility.

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "maramu261" <maramu261@...> wrote:

Hello, Greetings to all, we have just purchased Maramu #261 1989 (Big THANKYOU to Joel and Vela Potter). I must install holding tanks for the heads to be legal in the US. Any experienced opinions on sizes, deck pumpout placement, venting placement, part numbers will be much appreciated. Also, is there an owners manual in English for the later model Maramu (not super)? Thanks, Ross


Re: [Amel] New Member Test Email

Duncan Hagemeyer
 

Richard,

Not a done deal yet, but I have a contract and will survey on 10/26,27. She is the 2006 Reborn V in Antigua.

Will advise if I am a real Amel groupie.

Duncan
On Oct 13, 2011, at 5:32 PM, Richard03801 wrote:

Welcome aboard which boat did you buy we track by year, hull number xxx and type. It is always good info to base advice on.

Regards
SM209 for sale in Annapolis.

Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

"brokerage beyond your expectations"

On Oct 13, 2011, at 11:57, Duncan Hagemeyer <wdhagemeyer@...> wrote:

Hi,

Just logging in to the group.

Duncan Hagemeyer
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cocpit table for amel maramu

Lior <lior246@...>
 

hello all
i would like to make a cocpit table for my old maramu.
does anyone have maybe a plan, picture or any tips how to fix it and make it comftable?

thanks a lot in advance for your tips.

lior
sababa, maramu #155


Rép. : [Amel] Re: Maramu holding tank

joseph mc donnell
 

Hi Serge
Check out Photo Album 107, also check out the plans for the tanks in the files section. A company called Hendersons in the UK will make up a tank to your drawings, but if you look around I'm sure you will find a company locally capable of building a tank to your specifications, just make sure there are internal baffles in the tanks.
Regards Joe


Rép. : [Amel] Re: Maramu holding tank

Serge Tremblay <laetitiaii@...>
 

Hi Joe,
 
I need to install a black water tank...
 
Could'nt find "oceanhobo" in the photo section even if i listed the photos by authors!
 
Please advise.
 
Serge V/ Opera   Mango#51


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De : joemac4sail <joemac4sail@...>
Objet : [Amel] Re: Maramu holding tank
À : amelyachtowners@...
Date: jeudi 13 octobre 2011 19 h 12



 



Hi Ross
Have a look at the photos of holding tanks retro fitted to a Santorin and posted by "oceanhobo" in the photo section. I'm sure that the mesurements will be different on a Maramu. but you will get the idea of whats involved. Of note is that the capacity of these tanks is superior to that of the tanks on the SM2000. There are also drawings available.
Regards Joe
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Re: [Amel] New Member Test Email

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

Welcome aboard which boat did you buy we track by year, hull number xxx and type. It is always good info to base advice on.

Regards
SM209 for sale in Annapolis.

Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

"brokerage beyond your expectations"

On Oct 13, 2011, at 11:57, Duncan Hagemeyer <wdhagemeyer@...> wrote:

Hi,

Just logging in to the group.

Duncan Hagemeyer


Re: Maramu holding tank

joseph mc donnell
 

Hi Ross
Have a look at the photos of holding tanks retro fitted to a Santorin and posted by "oceanhobo" in the photo section. I'm sure that the mesurements will be different on a Maramu. but you will get the idea of whats involved. Of note is that the capacity of these tanks is superior to that of the tanks on the SM2000. There are also drawings available.
Regards Joe
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New Member Test Email

Duncan Hagemeyer
 

Hi,

Just logging in to the group.

Duncan Hagemeyer


Re: [Amel] Maramu holding tank

David Wallace
 

Hi Ross,
Air Ops (Maramu #104) has a holding tank foward which was installed in the boat when we bought her in 2000. It was supplied by Amel and is mounted behind the head storage panel, in the aft upper half. The head pumps up into the tank and then gravity feeds overboard if the single valve at the thru-hull is open. There is a vent/pump out fitting on the deck next to the toe rail. We've had no issues with it.
There was no holding tank in the aft head so we installed a LectraSan which fits nicely but we've never been happy with it and wouldn't get one again. The boat is now in Mexico and we primarily use the forward head but will have to figure out a solution before we return her to the US. The holding tank from Amel would work just as well in the aft head but it's unlikely they still have them. Might be worth asking, though...
Dave


Re: Maramu holding tank

jjjk12s <jjjk12s@...>
 

Ross,

Congratulations.

I have a box shaped holding tank in the aft head only. It is near floor level attached to the bulkhead between the sink and the hull. The vent comes out on the near-vertical part of the deck moulding above the head (slightly aft) and the deck pump-out is in the deck above the head compartment. The plumbing is quite neat in the lockers. The diverter valve is just next to the outlet from the holding tank. The toilet is manual and pumps into the tank. There is an electric pump to empty the holding tank. I did not install the system, it came with the boat. The only problem was the electric pump was quite high and after not being used for a while the valves inside were a bit stiff and it would not prime. Horrid job to fix as I only realsised it wasn't emptying the holding tank when it was over full. I have now moved the electric pump so it is below the level of the top of the tank so it does not need to prime itself.

I have another non amel boat which has an electric toilet which goes to the holding tank above sea level. A 2-way valve is between the holding tank and the sea to divert to pump out. This is a simple way to do things as gravity empties the tank to the sea (directly if the 2-way valve is open), but, in a maramu the holding tank would have to be high up to empty to the sea by gravity.

The other way to do it is to have a second diverter valve bewteen the toilet and the hoding tank so the toilet can discharge directly overboard but then you have lots of plumbing. I think there is a diagram somewhere here of a system like this from a Santorin which may help you.

Can't help you with a manual- mine is older and in french but with school french and a dictionary it is not too hard to figure it out as it is so short. Hopefully you have the seperate manuals for the equipment on board in english. I expect there are not many questions Joel can't assist you with.

John (Popeye 1981 Maramu)

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "maramu261" <maramu261@...> wrote:

Hello, Greetings to all, we have just purchased Maramu #261 1989 (Big THANKYOU to Joel and Vela Potter). I must install holding tanks for the heads to be legal in the US. Any experienced opinions on sizes, deck pumpout placement, venting placement, part numbers will be much appreciated. Also, is there an owners manual in English for the later model Maramu (not super)? Thanks, Ross


Maramu holding tank

maramu261
 

Hello, Greetings to all, we have just purchased Maramu #261 1989 (Big THANKYOU to Joel and Vela Potter). I must install holding tanks for the heads to be legal in the US. Any experienced opinions on sizes, deck pumpout placement, venting placement, part numbers will be much appreciated. Also, is there an owners manual in English for the later model Maramu (not super)? Thanks, Ross


Re: [Amel] Current in the bow truster at starting !! (link is her corect)

murray k. seidel <mseidel@...>
 

Eric- I have known Bill Siefert since I owned a Tartan 34 and Tartan 37,
each for 10 years and raced hard. I also spent time with him and his wife
when I was at the Naval War college in the early 80’s. So what was an
orthopedic surgeon doing at the War college? Long story besides having been
on active duty in the Navy Vietnam era. Please pass my e-mail address on to
him and phone number. mseidel@... and 910-470-1225. Thanks. Murray
Seidel, Wilmington, N.C.



From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Jean-Luc MERTZ
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 2:00 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] Current in the bow truster at starting !! (link is her
corect)





YES
see her :
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/301203532/pic/lis
t
and :
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/1398062604/pic/li
st
JLuc
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Le 10/10/2011 22:08, kimberlite a écrit :

Hi,

Do you have photos of the broken parts?

Ps I always race a 57 foot Oyster from St Martin to New York.

I have beaten him buy 17 hours to 2 days I have never lost and I use a 110
Yankee cut 10oz headsail..

The skipper is Bill Seifert who ran the Tartan Factory, the J-boat
factory,
and the Alden Factory. Now he just maintains the owners 2 Oysters.
East and
West coasts of the USA.

He also wrote a book called Offshore Sailing , and lectures at the
Marion-Bermuda safety at sea course.

I hate the companionway steps, it is like climbing Mt Everest, and the
saloon is too big for offshore, the ports are also too large.

Bill spends the winter on the boat maintaining it. If you want a lot of
maintenance and a poor offshore boat, get an Oyster. My friend bill
agrees.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

_____

From: amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...
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<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of
jlm@... <mailto:jlm%40jlmertz.fr> <mailto:jlm%40jlmertz.fr>
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 2:23 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Amel] Current in the bow truster at starting !! (link is her
corect)

YES,
The torque at starting is to height and perhaps the nominal torque,
All the pieces that brake (see photos) brook under normal condition.
Actually I am studying adding a soft start (for next year)
I am not happy with AMEL after sales they refuse to replace the parts so
Next boat will be an OYSTER .....
JLuc
----------------------------------------------------------

Le 09/10/2011 20:01, kimberlite a écrit :

Jean-luc.

Do I understand correctly that all the parts listed in your email broke
while using your bow thruster?

Did it happen at one time?

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

?

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<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Jean-Luc
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To: amelyachtowners@...
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Subject: [Amel] Current in the bow truster at starting !! (link is her
corect)

I broke without making a wrong action :
- All nylon screw of the propeller,
- The motor shaft
- The internal parts

so I recently measured the current in the bowthuster: 950A! at starting.
You can see the graphics in the Photo section :
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/1499947610/pic/li
st

Hopping it can help you anderstandsomme some problems.
jluc CottonBay





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Re: [Amel] Current in the bow truster at starting !! (link is her corect)

jlm@jlmertz.fr
 

Le 10/10/2011 22:08, kimberlite a écrit :

Hi,

Do you have photos of the broken parts?

Ps I always race a 57 foot Oyster from St Martin to New York.

I have beaten him buy 17 hours to 2 days I have never lost and I use a 110
Yankee cut 10oz headsail..

The skipper is Bill Seifert who ran the Tartan Factory, the J-boat
factory,
and the Alden Factory. Now he just maintains the owners 2 Oysters.
East and
West coasts of the USA.

He also wrote a book called Offshore Sailing , and lectures at the
Marion-Bermuda safety at sea course.

I hate the companionway steps, it is like climbing Mt Everest, and the
saloon is too big for offshore, the ports are also too large.

Bill spends the winter on the boat maintaining it. If you want a lot of
maintenance and a poor offshore boat, get an Oyster. My friend bill
agrees.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

_____

From: amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of
jlm@... <mailto:jlm%40jlmertz.fr>
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 2:23 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Amel] Current in the bow truster at starting !! (link is her
corect)

YES,
The torque at starting is to height and perhaps the nominal torque,
All the pieces that brake (see photos) brook under normal condition.
Actually I am studying adding a soft start (for next year)
I am not happy with AMEL after sales they refuse to replace the parts so
Next boat will be an OYSTER .....
JLuc
----------------------------------------------------------

Le 09/10/2011 20:01, kimberlite a écrit :

Jean-luc.

Do I understand correctly that all the parts listed in your email broke
while using your bow thruster?

Did it happen at one time?

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

?

_____

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<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
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<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Jean-Luc
Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2011 12:23 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Amel] Current in the bow truster at starting !! (link is her
corect)

I broke without making a wrong action :
- All nylon screw of the propeller,
- The motor shaft
- The internal parts

so I recently measured the current in the bowthuster: 950A! at starting.
You can see the graphics in the Photo section :
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/1499947610/pic/li
st

Hopping it can help you anderstandsomme some problems.
jluc CottonBay

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Re: [Amel] Current in the bow truster at starting !! (link is her corect)

jlm@jlmertz.fr
 

I totally agree with your philosophy but I am very enraged, in Collerie
again AMEL after sales,
And on the second hand, about the AMEL 54, I have not only good feed
back (mast, air conditioning etc..),
So I really look an alternative,
Merci for you contribution,
JLuc
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Le 10/10/2011 14:58, Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe a écrit :



J'luc,

Be careful what you wish for. You are upset now, but will likely
change your tune when you change to that prestigious brand made in
multiple yards without sufficient forethought in the combination of
complicated systems.

I know several Oyster owners that wish that they had bought an Amel
and one of them will even admit it.

A friend of ours owns a Oyster 62 and has constant problems with
repairs with difficulties receiving the proper parts. His 3
refrigerator/freezers quit on him in Bonaire. The
refrigerator/freezers shared a common part...I think it was the
compressor, but do not remember for sure. He was without refrigeration
in all 3 units for 6 weeks waiting for Oyster to get him the correct
part. At that time his Oyster was about 6-8 years old.

After 30,000 miles and an almost complete circumnavigation, the bow
thruster on BeBe works the same as when we bought her. We service the
bow thruster every 18-24 months with new seals, new prop hub, new
nylon screws and new oil.

I will also say that the bow on BeBe moves faster with the Amel bow
thruster than any Oyster I have been on or been near when in operation.

I hope this helps you and good luck.

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387
Currently Cyprus

--- In amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>, Jean-Luc MERTZ <jlm@...>
wrote:

Hi all,
I agree with you if you rapidly change the direction you can loss your
propeller, so I couldn't measured the current in this case.
So to limit as possible the start current and toque at starting or by
rapidly direction change I will try to add an soft-start by adding an
start resistor. Hopping it was enough
jluc
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Le 10/10/2011 12:18, Richard03801 a écrit :

Hi all checking current draw a motor start will ALWAYS show a high
draw without put much power output due to having to start rotation.
When the thrusters is loaded (pushing water) what is the load? When
you rapidly change direction the loads on the prop and the motor go
way up. AMEL designed the unit to move the bow of a 25ton yacht. The
plastic screws are there to protect the drive package, operation of
the unit in rapid direct change will cause problems.

Regarding a brand change you may want to interview a number of owners
of boats you may be considering, you well find AMEL to still be your
best choice.

Regards

Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

"brokerage beyond your expectations"

On Oct 9, 2011, at 12:23, "Jean-Luc" <jlm@...
<mailto:jlm%40jlmertz.fr>> wrote:

I broke without making a wrong action :
- All nylon screw of the propeller,
- The motor shaft
- The internal parts

so I recently measured the current in the bowthuster: 950A! at
starting.
You can see the graphics in the Photo section :
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/1499947610/pic/list

Hopping it can help you anderstandsomme some problems.
jluc CottonBay

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Re: [Amel] Current in the bow truster at starting !! (link is her corect)

jlm@jlmertz.fr
 

Merci,
Jean-Luc
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Le 10/10/2011 17:09, Dimitris Krassopoulos a écrit :

Dear Jurgen,

I was reffering to the internal parts of the bowthruster not the housing.
Sorry . The machine shop I used was in Syros and since the replacement
everything was working fine.

Dimitris

From: amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Jurgen
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 5:42 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Amel] Current in the bow truster at starting !! (link is her
corect)

--- In amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , "Dimitris Krassopoulos"
<dkra@...> wrote:

You can make all the parts in a local machine shop. You can manufacture
them
by high tensil metal without a problem and they are going to
function much
better than the original parts. You should leave the plastic screws
on the
propeller as a fuse if you catch a rope or plastic bag. According to
others
you can put grease instead of oil so the bowthruster is going to
work more
smoothly. I know that the whole system is a weak point of the SM
this one
of
the reasons that I decided to buy the Amel 54. Regarding your
decision to
buy an Oyster I am sure that you are going to have much more
problems with
the after sales support as the boats are manufactured in different yards
with different parts. The important thing with Amel boats of the same
generation is that they are more or less the same with same parts.



Regards



Dimitris

Hi Dimitris,
as you might have read I lost my bowthruster propeller unit into the
sea. A
very nice Greek fisherman retrieved it. You mentioned that one could
fabricate all parts in steel. What about the fiberglasstube which attaches
to the thruster motor and houses the motor/propeller shaft. My tube is too
short now because it sheared off where the motor srews are. May be you can
give me some ideas.

Best regards
Jurgen Mango 'ARGO VI'

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<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Amel] Current in the bow truster at starting !! (link
is her
corect)





YES,
The torque at starting is to height and perhaps the nominal torque,
All the pieces that brake (see photos) brook under normal condition.
Actually I am studying adding a soft start (for next year)
I am not happy with AMEL after sales they refuse to replace the parts so
Next boat will be an OYSTER .....
JLuc
----------------------------------------------------------

Le 09/10/2011 20:01, kimberlite a écrit :

Jean-luc.

Do I understand correctly that all the parts listed in your email
broke
while using your bow thruster?

Did it happen at one time?

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

?

_____

From: <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
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<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>

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Subject: [Amel] Current in the bow truster at starting !! (link is her
corect)

I broke without making a wrong action :
- All nylon screw of the propeller,
- The motor shaft
- The internal parts

so I recently measured the current in the bowthuster: 950A! at
starting.
You can see the graphics in the Photo section :
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/1499947610/pic/li
st

Hopping it can help you anderstandsomme some problems.
jluc CottonBay

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Re: [Amel] Popeye

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

Thanks to you for being a
Member and helping out.

Regards

Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

"brokerage beyond your expectations"

On Oct 10, 2011, at 14:25, "rfmolony" <rfmolony@...> wrote:

Popeye, Amel Maramu hull number 91 has been sold, in Brisbane Australia, and so I will be leaving the group. My thanks for the existence of this group. Popeye made 18 days to Panama and then 72 days Panama to Brisbane, direct and single-handed. Apart from a blown fuse in the auto-pilot and the need to bleed the diesel toward the end of the trip, there were no issues at all. It breaks my heart to sell her, but it is better for her to be "out doing", than "sitting waiting".


Re: [Amel] Current in the bow truster at starting !! (link is her corect)

kimberlite <kimberlite@...>
 

Hi,

Do you have photos of the broken parts?



Ps I always race a 57 foot Oyster from St Martin to New York.

I have beaten him buy 17 hours to 2 days I have never lost and I use a 110
Yankee cut 10oz headsail..

The skipper is Bill Seifert who ran the Tartan Factory, the J-boat factory,
and the Alden Factory. Now he just maintains the owners 2 Oysters. East and
West coasts of the USA.

He also wrote a book called Offshore Sailing , and lectures at the
Marion-Bermuda safety at sea course.



I hate the companionway steps, it is like climbing Mt Everest, and the
saloon is too big for offshore, the ports are also too large.

Bill spends the winter on the boat maintaining it. If you want a lot of
maintenance and a poor offshore boat, get an Oyster. My friend bill agrees.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of jlm@...
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 2:23 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] Current in the bow truster at starting !! (link is her
corect)





YES,
The torque at starting is to height and perhaps the nominal torque,
All the pieces that brake (see photos) brook under normal condition.
Actually I am studying adding a soft start (for next year)
I am not happy with AMEL after sales they refuse to replace the parts so
Next boat will be an OYSTER .....
JLuc
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Le 09/10/2011 20:01, kimberlite a écrit :

Jean-luc.

Do I understand correctly that all the parts listed in your email broke
while using your bow thruster?

Did it happen at one time?

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

?

_____

From: amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...
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<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Jean-Luc
Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2011 12:23 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Amel] Current in the bow truster at starting !! (link is her
corect)

I broke without making a wrong action :
- All nylon screw of the propeller,
- The motor shaft
- The internal parts

so I recently measured the current in the bowthuster: 950A! at starting.
You can see the graphics in the Photo section :
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/1499947610/pic/li
st

Hopping it can help you anderstandsomme some problems.
jluc CottonBay

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Popeye

rfmolony <rfmolony@...>
 

Popeye, Amel Maramu hull number 91 has been sold, in Brisbane Australia, and so I will be leaving the group. My thanks for the existence of this group. Popeye made 18 days to Panama and then 72 days Panama to Brisbane, direct and single-handed. Apart from a blown fuse in the auto-pilot and the need to bleed the diesel toward the end of the trip, there were no issues at all. It breaks my heart to sell her, but it is better for her to be "out doing", than "sitting waiting".


Re: [Amel] Current in the bow truster at starting !! (link is her corect)

Jurgen Johanssen <jurgenjohanssen@...>
 

Dimitris,
 
thank you very much for your answer.
 
Best regards
Jurgen


________________________________
From: Dimitris Krassopoulos <dkra@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Monday, 10 October 2011, 18:09
Subject: RE: [Amel] Current in the bow truster at starting !! (link is her corect)


 
Dear Jurgen,

I was reffering to the internal parts of the bowthruster not the housing.
Sorry . The machine shop I used was in Syros and since the replacement
everything was working fine.

Dimitris

From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Jurgen
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 5:42 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] Current in the bow truster at starting !! (link is her
corect)

--- In amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , "Dimitris Krassopoulos"
<dkra@...> wrote:

You can make all the parts in a local machine shop. You can manufacture
them
by high tensil metal without a problem and they are going to function much
better than the original parts. You should leave the plastic screws on the
propeller as a fuse if you catch a rope or plastic bag. According to
others
you can put grease instead of oil so the bowthruster is going to work more
smoothly. I know that the whole system is a weak point of the SM this one
of
the reasons that I decided to buy the Amel 54. Regarding your decision to
buy an Oyster I am sure that you are going to have much more problems with
the after sales support as the boats are manufactured in different yards
with different parts. The important thing with Amel boats of the same
generation is that they are more or less the same with same parts.



Regards



Dimitris

Hi Dimitris,
as you might have read I lost my bowthruster propeller unit into the sea. A
very nice Greek fisherman retrieved it. You mentioned that one could
fabricate all parts in steel. What about the fiberglasstube which attaches
to the thruster motor and houses the motor/propeller shaft. My tube is too
short now because it sheared off where the motor srews are. May be you can
give me some ideas.

Best regards
Jurgen Mango 'ARGO VI'

From: amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of jlm@...
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 9:23 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Amel] Current in the bow truster at starting !! (link is her
corect)





YES,
The torque at starting is to height and perhaps the nominal torque,
All the pieces that brake (see photos) brook under normal condition.
Actually I am studying adding a soft start (for next year)
I am not happy with AMEL after sales they refuse to replace the parts so
Next boat will be an OYSTER .....
JLuc
----------------------------------------------------------

Le 09/10/2011 20:01, kimberlite a écrit :

Jean-luc.

Do I understand correctly that all the parts listed in your email broke
while using your bow thruster?

Did it happen at one time?

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

?

_____

From: <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
amelyachtowners@... <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
< <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto: <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
amelyachtowners@... <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Jean-Luc
Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2011 12:23 PM
To: <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
amelyachtowners@... <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
< <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Amel] Current in the bow truster at starting !! (link is her
corect)

I broke without making a wrong action :
- All nylon screw of the propeller,
- The motor shaft
- The internal parts

so I recently measured the current in the bowthuster: 950A! at starting.
You can see the graphics in the Photo section :
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/1499947610/pic/li
st

Hopping it can help you anderstandsomme some problems.
jluc CottonBay










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