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Re: Re : [Amel] Navigation Charts- Android

Gaffney, Drew <drew.gaffney@...>
 

Duncan,
We have both iPad and Android with Navionics. There are some differences, but both are excellent and a welcome alternative to Maxsea and C-Maps 2009. We actually run both Maxsea at the nav station on a laptop and either the Droid or the iPad at the helm.
The iPad has a bigger screen, which is nice, but the Droid can be expanded for whatever detail one wishes.
Both work without cell coverage. The iPad must include wireless, as that's where the GPS resides. The Droid works when in airplane mode (wireless off), but the iPad requires the phone to be on, although cell coverage is not needed. There's an irritating error message without cell coverage, but it's easily dismissed without affecting navigation.
The Droid has smaller, chart sets. Australia and all of Indonesia, Malaysia, and Thailand are on a single Navionics chart set for iPad, but require multiple modules for Droids.
Interestingly, the "up-to-date" Navionics charts are often more up-to-date, but not always. Sometimes, there are major inaccuracies. Sometimes C-Map is more accurate. As we have both available, we compare and note which seems to reflect reality best.
We carry paper charts, but use them less and less. The color, detail, and ease of use push us to electronic charts. We have numerous back-up GPS alternatives on-board, although the GPS system remains a single-point failure risk. It's possible to make paper copies of key portions of electronic charts, e.g. anchorages, harbor approaches, etc. We sometimes do that.
The "hacked" version of Maxsea used by most cruisers requires Windows XP, and that's becoming more difficult to get and maintain. When our current, 3yr old laptop dies, we'll use OpenCPN running Win7 on the laptop at the nav station and continue using Navionics on the Droid and/or iPad at the helm.
Drew
SV Revelation SM390,
On the hard, Pangkor Marina, Malaysia


Amel Euros 41 #240 "Gran Roque" for sale

tresliebres <eonoemedia@...>
 

Hi, I'm owner of a Amel Euros with which he intended to circumnavigate starting next year. But family circumstances have truncated my plans, so I changed my sailing plans and look for a smaller boat. So, I put my Amel for sale. It has Spanish flag and is in very good condition. The engine, a Volvo 75 hp MD21A has about 2200 hours, works very well, and has recently been reviewed. The boat has a Raymarine C80 with sounder module, AIS and radar Raytheon. It also has a 730 Cetrek autopilot so far it works great. If any member of the group is interested in the boat will be happy to send pictures and all the information you need. Oh, and most importantly, the price ... 39,000 euros. A true gift


Re: [Amel] Mango model for selling

Frederic Houdaille <fhoudaille@...>
 

Hello Luis,
 
Thanks for getting back to me.
 
I am indeed interested in pursuing this conversation and look forward to getting pics and specs.
 
Have a good night!
 
Frederic


________________________________
From: Luis I. Gonzalez de Vallejo <l_gonzalezvallejo@yahoo.es>
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2011 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Mango model for selling



 

ALOYSIUS / AMEL MANGO
I apologize for the delay in my answer. I am preparing a set of pictures and details on the boat as soon as possible. The boat is on the Royal Sailing Club of Alicante, southeast of Spain. She has an Spanish flag. I always sail myself the boat and is maintained at top condition. No osmosis at all, every year the hull is checked by professionals. Engine, generator, electricity, electronics and all spares have been renewed peridodicaly e.g. the engine  NANNI DIESEL  115 cv is almost new , around 1000 hr, the generator  a Master volt  is almost new as well.
Electronics include  Simrad autopilot and a second one  Neco autopilot. Electronics   are  Simrad ( plotter),2 GPS,  Furuno radar.. Vetus bow thruster.. Central heating, full set of sails, auxiliar Avon for 6 pax + engine, one electric winch..  
A comprehensive list will be provide and a set of pictures. Beacause the boat is not yet advertised I have not prepared this information.
The boat is ready to sail anywhere and she is full equipped. If I ask myself what she has not have: no air condition either water desalator.
About the price I have consulted to professionals and they recommend a price about 135,000 € as a very good opportunity on value/cost  relationship,however this is an orientative price.
Please let me know if you are interested to send you detail information.
Regards,
Luis

Catedrático de Ingeniería Geológica
Universidad Complutense de Madrid
www.gonzalezdevallejo.com

________________________________
De: Frederic Houdaille <fhoudaille@yahoo.com>
Para: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Enviado: viernes 18 de noviembre de 2011 16:33
Asunto: Re: [Amel] Mango model for selling

 
Hi Luis,
Could you please email me the specifics on your boat (as well as pictures). I am actively looking for the right Amel at the right price for our planned family trip.
Thanks.
Fred

________________________________
From: Luis I. Gonzalez de Vallejo <l_gonzalezvallejo@yahoo.es>
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 4:31 AM
Subject: [Amel] Mango model for selling

 

I have a Mango since 1994. She is  perfect  condition, professional maintenence, and most of the esential parts are all new, eg.engine,generator, electricity,electronics,water pumps ... ready to sail around the world. Unfortunatly due to retirement I am to change my sailing plans . The boat is moored in  Alicante Royal  Sailing Club ( East Spain).
I have not yet advertished for selling, but any of the Amel´s owners group  interested  are welcome to address me.
Regards,
Luis
Aloysius  
Alicante,Spain 
 
Catedrático de Ingeniería Geológica
Universidad Complutense de Madrid
www.gonzalezdevallejo.com

________________________________
De: oo7.larshansen <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
Para: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Enviado: jueves 17 de noviembre de 2011 18:36
Asunto: Re: [Amel] Earlier models of the Mango/Maramu

 

Thanx for all the answers!

Its my fault, that I didn't describe the reason for my question. My wife and I are considering a used Mango for a tour around the world. I guess we will start in the Mediterranean and the go all the way, if my wife (and I) can comply with the life on board.
Long time ago I decided (Yes I have asked my wife) that a Amel Super Maramu would be my preferred choice, but as time goes on my general economy is decreasing (hope that's an Ok term!)
Therefore I have been looking more at elder Amel boats as the Mango. But I can't understand if there should have been made a 52 feet model, and a 49/48 foot model, I mean that the difference is to small to make any difference in the cost of the boat, and why should anybody choose a 48/49 if you can get 52 feet. So what sizes of the Amel Mango has been made, and what are the differences between these models?

Lars

________________________________
Luis I. González de Vallejo

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Luis I. González de Vallejo

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Re: [Amel] Mango model for selling

Luis I. Gonzalez de Vallejo <l_gonzalezvallejo@...>
 

ALOYSIUS / AMEL MANGO
I apologize for the delay in my answer. I am preparing a set of pictures and details on the boat as soon as possible. The boat is on the Royal Sailing Club of Alicante, southeast of Spain. She has an Spanish flag. I always sail myself the boat and is maintained at top condition. No osmosis at all, every year the hull is checked by professionals. Engine, generator, electricity, electronics and all spares have been renewed peridodicaly e.g. the engine  NANNI DIESEL  115 cv is almost new , around 1000 hr, the generator  a Master volt  is almost new as well.
Electronics include  Simrad autopilot and a second one  Neco autopilot. Electronics   are  Simrad ( plotter),2 GPS,  Furuno radar.. Vetus bow thruster.. Central heating, full set of sails, auxiliar Avon for 6 pax + engine, one electric winch..  
A comprehensive list will be provide and a set of pictures. Beacause the boat is not yet advertised I have not prepared this information.
The boat is ready to sail anywhere and she is full equipped. If I ask myself what she has not have: no air condition either water desalator.
About the price I have consulted to professionals and they recommend a price about 135,000 € as a very good opportunity on value/cost  relationship,however this is an orientative price.
Please let me know if you are interested to send you detail information.
Regards,
Luis


Catedrático de Ingeniería Geológica
Universidad Complutense de Madrid
www.gonzalezdevallejo.com


________________________________
De: Frederic Houdaille <fhoudaille@yahoo.com>
Para: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Enviado: viernes 18 de noviembre de 2011 16:33
Asunto: Re: [Amel] Mango model for selling


 
Hi Luis,
Could you please email me the specifics on your boat (as well as pictures). I am actively looking for the right Amel at the right price for our planned family trip.
Thanks.
Fred


________________________________
From: Luis I. Gonzalez de Vallejo <l_gonzalezvallejo@yahoo.es>
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 4:31 AM
Subject: [Amel] Mango model for selling


 

I have a Mango since 1994. She is  perfect  condition, professional maintenence, and most of the esential parts are all new, eg.engine,generator, electricity,electronics,water pumps ... ready to sail around the world. Unfortunatly due to retirement I am to change my sailing plans . The boat is moored in  Alicante Royal  Sailing Club ( East Spain).
I have not yet advertished for selling, but any of the Amel´s owners group  interested  are welcome to address me.
Regards,
Luis
Aloysius  
Alicante,Spain 
 
Catedrático de Ingeniería Geológica
Universidad Complutense de Madrid
www.gonzalezdevallejo.com

________________________________
De: oo7.larshansen <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
Para: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Enviado: jueves 17 de noviembre de 2011 18:36
Asunto: Re: [Amel] Earlier models of the Mango/Maramu

 

Thanx for all the answers!

Its my fault, that I didn't describe the reason for my question. My wife and I are considering a used Mango for a tour around the world. I guess we will start in the Mediterranean and the go all the way, if my wife (and I) can comply with the life on board.
Long time ago I decided (Yes I have asked my wife) that a Amel Super Maramu would be my preferred choice, but as time goes on my general economy is decreasing (hope that's an Ok term!)
Therefore I have been looking more at elder Amel boats as the Mango. But I can't understand if there should have been made a 52 feet model, and a 49/48 foot model, I mean that the difference is to small to make any difference in the cost of the boat, and why should anybody choose a 48/49 if you can get 52 feet. So what sizes of the Amel Mango has been made, and what are the differences between these models?

Lars

________________________________
Luis I. González de Vallejo

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________________________________
Luis I. González de Vallejo

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Re: Hydraulic brake frrom amel

Eric Freedman
 

Hi,
I am awaiting a new spring from Amel. I will then take the cylinder apart when I get to the boat in January and see what is what. I will report back.
Fair Winds
Eric
SM 376 Kimberlite

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe" <yahoogroups@...> wrote:

Eric,

Please keep us posted as there are a number of us who may need this fix.

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387


--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, kimberlite <kimberlite@> wrote:

I think this makes sense.

ERIC
SM 376







Dear Eric,



According to your description and our experience, we think that the spring
located inside the unit may be worn out. Could you please tell us if you
have dismantled the unit to check if this spring is in good condition or
not?



Thank you in anticipation for your comments.



With our best regards,



Maud/Chantiers AMEL

<mailto:sav@> sav@







_____



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Re: Re : [Amel] Navigation Charts- Android

Dave_Benjamin
 

Duncan,

We still carry the paper charts. I don't know about outputting from smart phone to another device, however you can use a tablet Android or I-Pad with navigation software. A good friend of mine has impressed me with his I-Pad. It gives you a great nav display and the software was only about $60 USD. I'm sure the Android apps work in similar manner on Android tablets.

Cheers,
Dave

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Duncan Hagemeyer <wdhagemeyer@...> wrote:

Well, Dave that may just push me over to a smart phone! $4! A question; can an Android app be used with a chart plotter or sent to a lap top? I spent many years in the Caribbean using paper charts. Electronic will be new to me. I presume that they can be a real benefit. A hand held GPS works great if one has entered the precise coordinates of the mark.
On Nov 29, 2011, at 10:37 AM, Dave_Benjamin wrote:

I've been using the Android app from Navionics. While I've only used it a bit here in California, I am impressed so far. I think it was $4 USD for "US West" and well worth it.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Serge Tremblay <laetitiaii@> wrote:

Hi,
While I have commercial versions of Captain and MaxSea, I prefer the software of OPEN CPN (free sofware) with the C-Map charts i purchased with MaxSea.
Â
I understand that OPEN CPN is available for Android:http://fr.androidzoom.com/android_applications/communication/openvpn-installer_epia.html

Serge, V Opera , Mango #51
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De : Giovanni Testa <gtesta23@>
À : amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Envoyé le : Mardi 29 Novembre 2011 8h38
Objet : Re: [Amel] Navigation Charts

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Hi to all,
do you have some experiences with new navionics app. for I.TAP2 or Samsung Android ?
fair winds
Gianni
sv EUTIKIA
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Piller
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 12:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Navigation Charts

Hi Duncan, we have being running ENC charting software (very good and very cheap) with a GPS connection that has worked very well. We also use C-map for our chart plotter that has worked very well and has NEVER not put us in the right place. As to over lays with weather you can look at a number of GRIB files that will over lay... Once off shore it becomes a matter of how good you sat phone is. As SSB generally is to slow to get reliable information all the time. We like C-map as it has a higher level/density of depths and always puts buoy way points on the safe side of the buoy.

Good luck
Richard
SM 209 on Challenge for Sale in Annapolis

________________________________
From: wdhagemeyer <wdhagemeyer@>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 10:37 AM
Subject: [Amel] Navigation Charts

I know enought about computers to be dangerous. I have an Apple Mac OS-X, 4g processor and 8g RAM and a Toshiba laptop running Windows 7 with 2.5g processor and 4g RAM. I prefer the windows system for day to day use, but the Apple would be an option to move to the boat as a photo/entertainment/navigation station.

All I have from my old boat is some Imray Isolare paper charts. I am thinking of adding so modern charts that tie to the Amel 54 system. I particularly like the idea of having weather overlay on active charts.

Any suggestion on makers of charts and how either of these systems could interface?

Duncan

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Re: Hydraulic brake frrom amel

Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Eric,

Please keep us posted as there are a number of us who may need this fix.

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, kimberlite <kimberlite@...> wrote:

I think this makes sense.

ERIC
SM 376







Dear Eric,



According to your description and our experience, we think that the spring
located inside the unit may be worn out. Could you please tell us if you
have dismantled the unit to check if this spring is in good condition or
not?



Thank you in anticipation for your comments.



With our best regards,



Maud/Chantiers AMEL

<mailto:sav@...> sav@...







_____



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Re : Re : [Amel] Navigation Charts- Android

Serge Tremblay <laetitiaii@...>
 

Hi Duncan,
 
OPEN CPN is a navigation software, similar to those commercially available.
 
People have a prejudice against 'free' software.
 
In the present situation, the free software is simpler and more efficient than the commercially available others, - while i have to admit, Open CPN does not have the 'spare parts' management facility of ' Cap'tain', but... being able to record that i have two spare oil filters can be done otherwise ...
 
Download it, try it on your  computer - whatever version works for you - Windows', Mac or Linux and if you want to use it with Android, try it. I have not used it with Android, but I am advised it works. I would not be interested in what i consider 'gadgets', but if you like strolling the cockpit while listening to your favorite music and looking at a small chart showing the position of your vessel at anchor ... or at sea ... ( I recognise the tablet or telephone mignt be useful for a crew, uncertain of the ability of the skipper!)

This 'free' software works better with AIS...  certainly as good as MaxSea, in my humble opinion.

We have been told so eloquently that 'Santa does not exist' that we become unable to recognize that there 'still' is good FREE software... there is a colony - isolated in the cyber-never-landed floating world, that hopes, everything good does not have a financial price or is made commercially.

This is why I love sailors, most of them are ready to help without asking for a bankcard...

But do not repeat it to anyone, it might spoil the secret and the fun of being a 'pleasure' boat user...

Serge, V Opéra - Mango #51
 
 
 
 
 
Hi Serge,

Well, I am more confused than ever.  What is OPEN CPN? (is that Captain?)  I looked a the hyperlink to android and I might as well be reading Greek.  Is the Android only good for the small screen of a smart phone?

Duncan
On Nov 29, 2011, at 8:52 AM, Serge Tremblay wrote:

Hi,
While I have commercial versions of Captain and  MaxSea, I prefer  the software of OPEN CPN (free software) with the  C-Map charts i purchased with MaxSea.
 
I understand that OPEN CPN is available for Android:http://fr.androidzoom.com/android_applications/communication/openvpn-installer_epia.html

Serge, V Opera , Mango #51
 
De : Giovanni Testa <gtesta23@tin.it>
À : amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Envoyé le : Mardi 29 Novembre 2011 8h38
Objet : Re: [Amel] Navigation Charts

 
Hi to all,
do you have some experiences with new navionics app. for I.TAP2 or Samsung Android ?
fair winds
Gianni
sv EUTIKIA
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Piller
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 12:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Navigation Charts

Hi Duncan, we have being running ENC charting software (very good and very cheap) with a GPS connection that has worked very well. We also use C-map for our chart plotter that has worked very well and has NEVER not put us in the right place. As to over lays with weather you can look at a number of GRIB files that will over lay... Once off shore it becomes a matter of how good you sat phone is. As SSB generally is to slow to get reliable information all the time. We like C-map as it has a higher level/density of depths and always puts buoy way points on the safe side of the buoy.

Good luck
Richard
SM 209 on Challenge for Sale in Annapolis

________________________________
From: wdhagemeyer <wdhagemeyer@gmail.com>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 10:37 AM
Subject: [Amel] Navigation Charts

I know enought about computers to be dangerous. I have an Apple Mac OS-X, 4g processor and 8g RAM and a Toshiba laptop running Windows 7 with 2.5g processor and 4g RAM. I prefer the windows system for day to day use, but the Apple would be an option to move to the boat as a photo/entertainment/navigation station.

All I have from my old boat is some Imray Isolare paper charts. I am thinking of adding so modern charts that tie to the Amel 54 system. I particularly like the idea of having weather overlay on active charts.

Any suggestion on makers of charts and how either of these systems could interface?

Duncan

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De : Duncan Hagemeyer <wdhagemeyer@gmail.com>
À : amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Envoyé le : Mardi 29 Novembre 2011 22h06
Objet : Re: Re : [Amel] Navigation Charts- Android
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Re: Re : [Amel] Navigation Charts- Android

Duncan Hagemeyer
 

Hi Serge,

Well, I am more confused than ever. What is OPEN CPN? (is that Captain?) I looked a the hyperlink to android and I might as well be reading Greek. Is the Android only good for the small screen of a smart phone?

Duncan

On Nov 29, 2011, at 8:52 AM, Serge Tremblay wrote:

Hi,
While I have commercial versions of Captain and MaxSea, I prefer the software of OPEN CPN (free software) with the C-Map charts i purchased with MaxSea.

I understand that OPEN CPN is available for Android:http://fr.androidzoom.com/android_applications/communication/openvpn-installer_epia.html

Serge, V Opera , Mango #51

De : Giovanni Testa <gtesta23@tin.it>
: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Envoy le : Mardi 29 Novembre 2011 8h38
Objet : Re: [Amel] Navigation Charts


Hi to all,
do you have some experiences with new navionics app. for I.TAP2 or Samsung Android ?
fair winds
Gianni
sv EUTIKIA
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Piller
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 12:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Navigation Charts

Hi Duncan, we have being running ENC charting software (very good and very cheap) with a GPS connection that has worked very well. We also use C-map for our chart plotter that has worked very well and has NEVER not put us in the right place. As to over lays with weather you can look at a number of GRIB files that will over lay... Once off shore it becomes a matter of how good you sat phone is. As SSB generally is to slow to get reliable information all the time. We like C-map as it has a higher level/density of depths and always puts buoy way points on the safe side of the buoy.

Good luck
Richard
SM 209 on Challenge for Sale in Annapolis

________________________________
From: wdhagemeyer <wdhagemeyer@gmail.com>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 10:37 AM
Subject: [Amel] Navigation Charts

I know enought about computers to be dangerous. I have an Apple Mac OS-X, 4g processor and 8g RAM and a Toshiba laptop running Windows 7 with 2.5g processor and 4g RAM. I prefer the windows system for day to day use, but the Apple would be an option to move to the boat as a photo/entertainment/navigation station.

All I have from my old boat is some Imray Isolare paper charts. I am thinking of adding so modern charts that tie to the Amel 54 system. I particularly like the idea of having weather overlay on active charts.

Any suggestion on makers of charts and how either of these systems could interface?

Duncan

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Re: Re : [Amel] Navigation Charts- Android

Duncan Hagemeyer
 

Well, Dave that may just push me over to a smart phone! $4! A question; can an Android app be used with a chart plotter or sent to a lap top? I spent many years in the Caribbean using paper charts. Electronic will be new to me. I presume that they can be a real benefit. A hand held GPS works great if one has entered the precise coordinates of the mark.
On Nov 29, 2011, at 10:37 AM, Dave_Benjamin wrote:

I've been using the Android app from Navionics. While I've only used it a bit here in California, I am impressed so far. I think it was $4 USD for "US West" and well worth it.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Serge Tremblay <laetitiaii@...> wrote:

Hi,
While I have commercial versions of Captain and MaxSea, I prefer the software of OPEN CPN (free sofware) with the C-Map charts i purchased with MaxSea.

I understand that OPEN CPN is available for Android:http://fr.androidzoom.com/android_applications/communication/openvpn-installer_epia.html

Serge, V Opera , Mango #51

De : Giovanni Testa <gtesta23@...>
À : amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Envoyé le : Mardi 29 Novembre 2011 8h38
Objet : Re: [Amel] Navigation Charts


Hi to all,
do you have some experiences with new navionics app. for I.TAP2 or Samsung Android ?
fair winds
Gianni
sv EUTIKIA
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Piller
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 12:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Navigation Charts

Hi Duncan, we have being running ENC charting software (very good and very cheap) with a GPS connection that has worked very well. We also use C-map for our chart plotter that has worked very well and has NEVER not put us in the right place. As to over lays with weather you can look at a number of GRIB files that will over lay... Once off shore it becomes a matter of how good you sat phone is. As SSB generally is to slow to get reliable information all the time. We like C-map as it has a higher level/density of depths and always puts buoy way points on the safe side of the buoy.

Good luck
Richard
SM 209 on Challenge for Sale in Annapolis

________________________________
From: wdhagemeyer <wdhagemeyer@...>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 10:37 AM
Subject: [Amel] Navigation Charts

I know enought about computers to be dangerous. I have an Apple Mac OS-X, 4g processor and 8g RAM and a Toshiba laptop running Windows 7 with 2.5g processor and 4g RAM. I prefer the windows system for day to day use, but the Apple would be an option to move to the boat as a photo/entertainment/navigation station.

All I have from my old boat is some Imray Isolare paper charts. I am thinking of adding so modern charts that tie to the Amel 54 system. I particularly like the idea of having weather overlay on active charts.

Any suggestion on makers of charts and how either of these systems could interface?

Duncan










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Hydraulic brake frrom amel

Eric Freedman
 

I think this makes sense.

ERIC
SM 376







Dear Eric,



According to your description and our experience, we think that the spring
located inside the unit may be worn out. Could you please tell us if you
have dismantled the unit to check if this spring is in good condition or
not?



Thank you in anticipation for your comments.



With our best regards,



Maud/Chantiers AMEL

<mailto:sav@amel.fr> sav@amel.fr







_____


Re: Re : [Amel] Navigation Charts- Android

Dave_Benjamin
 

I've been using the Android app from Navionics. While I've only used it a bit here in California, I am impressed so far. I think it was $4 USD for "US West" and well worth it.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Serge Tremblay <laetitiaii@...> wrote:

Hi,
While I have commercial versions of Captain and  MaxSea, I prefer  the software of OPEN CPN (free sofware) with the  C-Map charts i purchased with MaxSea.
 
I understand that OPEN CPN is available for Android:http://fr.androidzoom.com/android_applications/communication/openvpn-installer_epia.html

Serge, V Opera , Mango #51
 
De : Giovanni Testa <gtesta23@...>
À : amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Envoyé le : Mardi 29 Novembre 2011 8h38
Objet : Re: [Amel] Navigation Charts

 
Hi to all,
do you have some experiences with new navionics app. for I.TAP2 or Samsung Android ?
fair winds
Gianni
sv EUTIKIA
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Piller
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 12:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Navigation Charts

Hi Duncan, we have being running ENC charting software (very good and very cheap) with a GPS connection that has worked very well. We also use C-map for our chart plotter that has worked very well and has NEVER not put us in the right place. As to over lays with weather you can look at a number of GRIB files that will over lay... Once off shore it becomes a matter of how good you sat phone is. As SSB generally is to slow to get reliable information all the time. We like C-map as it has a higher level/density of depths and always puts buoy way points on the safe side of the buoy.

Good luck
Richard
SM 209 on Challenge for Sale in Annapolis

________________________________
From: wdhagemeyer <wdhagemeyer@...>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 10:37 AM
Subject: [Amel] Navigation Charts

I know enought about computers to be dangerous. I have an Apple Mac OS-X, 4g processor and 8g RAM and a Toshiba laptop running Windows 7 with 2.5g processor and 4g RAM. I prefer the windows system for day to day use, but the Apple would be an option to move to the boat as a photo/entertainment/navigation station.

All I have from my old boat is some Imray Isolare paper charts. I am thinking of adding so modern charts that tie to the Amel 54 system. I particularly like the idea of having weather overlay on active charts.

Any suggestion on makers of charts and how either of these systems could interface?

Duncan

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Re : [Amel] Navigation Charts- Android

Serge Tremblay <laetitiaii@...>
 

Hi,
While I have commercial versions of Captain and  MaxSea, I prefer  the software of OPEN CPN (free sofware) with the  C-Map charts i purchased with MaxSea.
 
I understand that OPEN CPN is available for Android:http://fr.androidzoom.com/android_applications/communication/openvpn-installer_epia.html

Serge, V Opera , Mango #51
 
De : Giovanni Testa <gtesta23@tin.it>
À : amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Envoyé le : Mardi 29 Novembre 2011 8h38
Objet : Re: [Amel] Navigation Charts

 
Hi to all,
do you have some experiences with new navionics app. for I.TAP2 or Samsung Android ?
fair winds
Gianni
sv EUTIKIA
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Piller
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 12:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Navigation Charts

Hi Duncan, we have being running ENC charting software (very good and very cheap) with a GPS connection that has worked very well. We also use C-map for our chart plotter that has worked very well and has NEVER not put us in the right place. As to over lays with weather you can look at a number of GRIB files that will over lay... Once off shore it becomes a matter of how good you sat phone is. As SSB generally is to slow to get reliable information all the time. We like C-map as it has a higher level/density of depths and always puts buoy way points on the safe side of the buoy.

Good luck
Richard
SM 209 on Challenge for Sale in Annapolis

________________________________
From: wdhagemeyer <wdhagemeyer@gmail.com>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 10:37 AM
Subject: [Amel] Navigation Charts

I know enought about computers to be dangerous. I have an Apple Mac OS-X, 4g processor and 8g RAM and a Toshiba laptop running Windows 7 with 2.5g processor and 4g RAM. I prefer the windows system for day to day use, but the Apple would be an option to move to the boat as a photo/entertainment/navigation station.

All I have from my old boat is some Imray Isolare paper charts. I am thinking of adding so modern charts that tie to the Amel 54 system. I particularly like the idea of having weather overlay on active charts.

Any suggestion on makers of charts and how either of these systems could interface?

Duncan



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Re: [Amel] Navigation Charts

Giovanni TESTA
 

Hi to all,
do you have some experiences with new navionics app. for I.TAP2 or Samsung Android ?
fair winds
Gianni
sv EUTIKIA

----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Piller
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 12:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Navigation Charts



Hi Duncan, we have being running ENC charting software (very good and very cheap) with a GPS connection that has worked very well. We also use C-map for our chart plotter that has worked very well and has NEVER not put us in the right place. As to over lays with weather you can look at a number of GRIB files that will over lay... Once off shore it becomes a matter of how good you sat phone is. As SSB generally is to slow to get reliable information all the time. We like C-map as it has a higher level/density of depths and always puts buoy way points on the safe side of the buoy.

Good luck
Richard
SM 209 on Challenge for Sale in Annapolis

________________________________
From: wdhagemeyer <wdhagemeyer@gmail.com>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 10:37 AM
Subject: [Amel] Navigation Charts



I know enought about computers to be dangerous. I have an Apple Mac OS-X, 4g processor and 8g RAM and a Toshiba laptop running Windows 7 with 2.5g processor and 4g RAM. I prefer the windows system for day to day use, but the Apple would be an option to move to the boat as a photo/entertainment/navigation station.

All I have from my old boat is some Imray Isolare paper charts. I am thinking of adding so modern charts that tie to the Amel 54 system. I particularly like the idea of having weather overlay on active charts.

Any suggestion on makers of charts and how either of these systems could interface?

Duncan







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engine mounts

Conn Williamson <connwilliamson@...>
 

I am removing the engine mounts for a refurb on our Mango.
The big center rubber mount under the mount doesn't want

to move. Is it just stuck there or is it screwed on.


Re: [Amel] Navigation Charts

Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
 

Hi Duncan, we have being running ENC charting software (very good and very cheap) with a GPS connection that has worked very well.  We also use C-map for our chart plotter that has worked very well and has NEVER not put us in the right place.  As to over lays with weather you can look at a number of GRIB files that will over lay... Once off shore it becomes a matter of how good you sat phone is. As SSB generally is to slow to get reliable information all the time.  We like C-map as it has a higher level/density of depths and always puts buoy way points on the safe side of the buoy. 

Good luck
Richard
SM 209 on Challenge for Sale in Annapolis



________________________________
From: wdhagemeyer <wdhagemeyer@gmail.com>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 10:37 AM
Subject: [Amel] Navigation Charts


 
I know enought about computers to be dangerous. I have an Apple Mac OS-X, 4g processor and 8g RAM and a Toshiba laptop running Windows 7 with 2.5g processor and 4g RAM. I prefer the windows system for day to day use, but the Apple would be an option to move to the boat as a photo/entertainment/navigation station.

All I have from my old boat is some Imray Isolare paper charts. I am thinking of adding so modern charts that tie to the Amel 54 system. I particularly like the idea of having weather overlay on active charts.

Any suggestion on makers of charts and how either of these systems could interface?

Duncan




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Re: [Amel] Re: Sailing to Florida

Kimberly Cerillo <kcvabeach@...>
 

Great to hear you had a nice sail so far!! Have fun in Ft. Lauderdale!



George and Kim

SM #353 Indecent



From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Veit Mueller
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 3:58 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel] Re: Sailing to Florida





Hello All:

Thank you for all your advise.
We looked at the weather and ended up on the inside (west of gulf stream) route.
Cape Hateras was calm and many stars...we ducked into Beaufort (very nice people) for a day to let a strong S wind system pass and are sailing since Thursday morning South.
Basically always a little S current (~30fathom line), and ok conditions.
Hope to arrive on Ft Lauderdale tomorrow.

Cheers,
Veit
ATMAN SM215

Sent from vm iPad

On Nov 21, 2011, at 9:49 AM, "Kimberly Cerillo" <kcvabeach@yahoo.com <mailto:kcvabeach%40yahoo.com> > wrote:

We have sailed down to Florida (the Keys/Ft. Lauderdale) a few times. We pretty much always stay inside the stream. We feel that we can check out the different areas along the coast (we love Charleston and St. Augustine) and can duck in if the weather becomes adverse. We always choose our weather window wisely when going around Hatteras, and tend to be more cautious than most. We have been around Hatteras about 6 times and have not ever hit any adverse wind/seas. If you are cautious with your weather, the passage can be beautiful, however, if you are not cautious, it isn’t called the Graveyard of the Atlantic for nothing. We have friends that encountered 25-30’ seas off Hatteras and ended up turning back towards Norfolk.

We were home ported in the Little Creek area of Norfolk for a couple of years and the crab pots and fishing nets can be problematic in the Chesapeake as they can be found in channels and are as likely as not to be poorly marked (we have seen quite a few that have black floats instead of the day glow orange).

If you have the time, stay inside and stop at the many beautiful ports along the coast.

George and Kim

SM #353 Indecent

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Veit Mueller
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 10:05 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Amel] Re: Sailing to Florida

Thanks for the post. We just left Cape Charles, VA on our way South.
still checking weather etc before we make a final decision.
Cheers,
Veit
ATMAN SM 215

Sent from vm iPad

On Nov 20, 2011, at 4:19 PM, "rossirossix4" <rossidesigngroup@gmail.com <mailto:rossidesigngroup%40gmail.com> <mailto:rossidesigngroup%40gmail.com> > wrote:

We arrived in Beaufort, NC yesterday afternoon after a 32 hour sail from Hampton, VA on the "inside" of the gulf stream around Cape Hatteras. We stayed within a few miles of the shore, avoiding most of the current of the gulf stream. We averaged 7+ knots for the 230 nm trip and it was pleasant (a bit cold this time of year)ran the diesel a total of 2 hours. BUT we paid close attention to the weather forecast and had favorable winds. There are fish pots out from Virginia Beach so be careful there at night, otherwise we did not see any. Again, rounding Cape Hatteras and Cape Lookout deserves respect and careful consideration of the weather but is worth a look.

Hampton, VA municipal marina is a great stop...$1.20/ft with SSCA, $1.25 BOATUS AND if you buy 2 nights 3rd is free...comes to $0.80/foot if you stay 3 days!
Bob
Brittany de la Mer

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , "veitm@..." <veitm@...> wrote:

Hello all:
We have our boat in Annapolis and are planning to sail her South to Florida - Ft Lauderdale.
Wondering wether to go East or West of the Gulfstream.
Anybody any good tips?
Cheers,
Veit - ATMAN SM 215
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Re: [Amel] Hydraulic shaft brake

Victoria Stewart harper
 

Hi all,I find that if you loosen the locknut and screw the adjusting bolt at the back or the cylinder in (clockwise) the tension in the actuating spring will increase and clamp the disc.Also, if the cylinder fails, by turning the bolt anti clockwise you can release the caliper which allows you to use the engine.
John HarperSM 200 Jovic

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
From: kimberlite@optonline.net
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 17:10:52 -0500
Subject: [Amel] Hydraulic shaft brake




























Richard,



The brake works kind of backwards. If you look at the diagram I posted the

hydraulic pressure pushes the pin away from the brakes and an outside spring

opens the calipers. When there is no pressure, a internal spring pushes the

pin towards the calipers and closes them. The problem is that the pin does

not extend enough to close the calipers or the socket that the pin sits in

is worn. I believe hydraulic pressure or lack thereof has nothing to do with

the problem.



Fair Winds



Eric



Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite



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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard03801

Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 5:03 PM

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: [Amel] Hydraulic shaft brake



Eric is the pressure bleeding off when the engine is off? It not look at the

hyd valve/switch as this is a normally break. Y



Regards

Sm 209 for sale in Annapolis

Richard Piller



Cell 603 767 5330



On Nov 27, 2011, at 15:02, kimberlite <kimberlite@optonline.net

<mailto:kimberlite%40optonline.net> > wrote:



Gary,
The actuator opens the brakes very well. The problem is when the engine is
off.
So hydraulics has nothing to do with the problem. I have been speaking
with

Giovanni and he had the same problem. He clamped an aluminum plate between
the pin and the brake levers and it worked fine. I am going to take the
brake assembly apart and see if the concave section of the brake assembly
is

worn. I believe that is the problem . If it is I plan on taking it to a
welding shop and build up the cup
Has anyone else experienced this problem?
Fair Winds
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite
_____
From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>

[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of amelliahona

Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 2:01 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>

Subject: [Amel] Re: Hydraulic shaft brake
Eric:
My problem was the brake not closing, same as yours. The actuator closes
via

spring pressure to prevent the shaft from turning when the engine is off.
When the engine is running and the transmission is engaged, hydraulic
pressure operates against the spring pressure to open the jaws of the
brake.

I do not know what the pressure has to be, but it is a balance between
spring pressure and hydraulic pressure.
Gary
--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>

<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , kimberlite <kimberlite@...>
wrote:
Gary,
When the engine is not running the brake does not close. Hydraulic
pressure
is only needed when the engine is running.
My problem is the reverse of yours. Your brakes did not open, mine do
not

close.
Fair Winds
Eric
Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite
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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>

<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>

<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of amelliahona
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 12:42 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>

<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Amel] Re: Hydraulic shaft brake
Eric: When my boat was one month old, (SM # 335, 2001) I noticed that my
hydraulic shaft brake was not actuating properly. Amel, sent a team to
the

Canary Islands to effect repairs under warranty. What they found was
that

the transmission was not putting out the specified amount of hydraulic
pressure to actuate the brake actuator. The repair required replacement
of

the transmission, all done very efficiently by Amel at not cost to me. I
don't know what the specs are for the pressure or anything else beyond
this
but perhaps you could begin trouble shooting by measuring the hydraulic
actuating pressure by "T" ing a pressure gauge into the hydraulic line.
Of

course firstly, verify that the transmission has the proper fluid level.
Another thing you might try, to verify that the hydraulic piston is
working
normally, would be to remove it, and actuate it with regulated
compressed

shop air so that you could verify at what pressure it actuates etc.
Just a couple of thoughts.
Gary Silver
s/v Liahona
On the hard at Spice Island Marine Services in Grenada
--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>

<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , kimberlite@ wrote:
I am having trouble with the hydraulic shaft brake on my 100 hp
yanmar.

The brake shoes do not close completely and the shaft continues to
spin.

.
To temporarily repair this I placed a block of wood between the
hydraulic
actuator and the engine mount frame and that applied enough pressure to
close the brake shoes. The brake shoes do not appear worn. I also do not
know which way to turn the bolt on the actuator to tighten the brake
shoe

clearance.
Any suggestions?
Fair winds
Eric SM 376 Kimberlite
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Hydraulic shaft brake

Eric Freedman
 

Richard,

The brake works kind of backwards. If you look at the diagram I posted the
hydraulic pressure pushes the pin away from the brakes and an outside spring
opens the calipers. When there is no pressure, a internal spring pushes the
pin towards the calipers and closes them. The problem is that the pin does
not extend enough to close the calipers or the socket that the pin sits in
is worn. I believe hydraulic pressure or lack thereof has nothing to do with
the problem.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard03801
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 5:03 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel] Hydraulic shaft brake





Eric is the pressure bleeding off when the engine is off? It not look at the
hyd valve/switch as this is a normally break. Y

Regards
Sm 209 for sale in Annapolis
Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

On Nov 27, 2011, at 15:02, kimberlite <kimberlite@optonline.net
<mailto:kimberlite%40optonline.net> > wrote:

Gary,

The actuator opens the brakes very well. The problem is when the engine is
off.

So hydraulics has nothing to do with the problem. I have been speaking
with
Giovanni and he had the same problem. He clamped an aluminum plate between
the pin and the brake levers and it worked fine. I am going to take the
brake assembly apart and see if the concave section of the brake assembly
is
worn. I believe that is the problem . If it is I plan on taking it to a
welding shop and build up the cup

Has anyone else experienced this problem?

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of amelliahona
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 2:01 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Amel] Re: Hydraulic shaft brake

Eric:

My problem was the brake not closing, same as yours. The actuator closes
via
spring pressure to prevent the shaft from turning when the engine is off.
When the engine is running and the transmission is engaged, hydraulic
pressure operates against the spring pressure to open the jaws of the
brake.
I do not know what the pressure has to be, but it is a balance between
spring pressure and hydraulic pressure.

Gary

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , kimberlite <kimberlite@...>
wrote:

Gary,

When the engine is not running the brake does not close. Hydraulic
pressure
is only needed when the engine is running.

My problem is the reverse of yours. Your brakes did not open, mine do
not
close.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of amelliahona
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 12:42 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Amel] Re: Hydraulic shaft brake





Eric: When my boat was one month old, (SM # 335, 2001) I noticed that my
hydraulic shaft brake was not actuating properly. Amel, sent a team to
the
Canary Islands to effect repairs under warranty. What they found was
that
the transmission was not putting out the specified amount of hydraulic
pressure to actuate the brake actuator. The repair required replacement
of
the transmission, all done very efficiently by Amel at not cost to me. I
don't know what the specs are for the pressure or anything else beyond
this
but perhaps you could begin trouble shooting by measuring the hydraulic
actuating pressure by "T" ing a pressure gauge into the hydraulic line.
Of
course firstly, verify that the transmission has the proper fluid level.
Another thing you might try, to verify that the hydraulic piston is
working
normally, would be to remove it, and actuate it with regulated
compressed
shop air so that you could verify at what pressure it actuates etc.

Just a couple of thoughts.

Gary Silver
s/v Liahona
On the hard at Spice Island Marine Services in Grenada

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , kimberlite@ wrote:

I am having trouble with the hydraulic shaft brake on my 100 hp
yanmar.
The brake shoes do not close completely and the shaft continues to
spin.
.
To temporarily repair this I placed a block of wood between the
hydraulic
actuator and the engine mount frame and that applied enough pressure to
close the brake shoes. The brake shoes do not appear worn. I also do not
know which way to turn the bolt on the actuator to tighten the brake
shoe
clearance.
Any suggestions?
Fair winds
Eric SM 376 Kimberlite











Re: [Amel] Hydraulic shaft brake

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

Eric is the pressure bleeding off when the engine is off? It not look at the hyd valve/switch as this is a normally break. Y

Regards
Sm 209 for sale in Annapolis
Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

On Nov 27, 2011, at 15:02, kimberlite <kimberlite@optonline.net> wrote:

Gary,

The actuator opens the brakes very well. The problem is when the engine is
off.

So hydraulics has nothing to do with the problem. I have been speaking with
Giovanni and he had the same problem. He clamped an aluminum plate between
the pin and the brake levers and it worked fine. I am going to take the
brake assembly apart and see if the concave section of the brake assembly is
worn. I believe that is the problem . If it is I plan on taking it to a
welding shop and build up the cup

Has anyone else experienced this problem?

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

_____

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of amelliahona
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 2:01 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Re: Hydraulic shaft brake

Eric:

My problem was the brake not closing, same as yours. The actuator closes via
spring pressure to prevent the shaft from turning when the engine is off.
When the engine is running and the transmission is engaged, hydraulic
pressure operates against the spring pressure to open the jaws of the brake.
I do not know what the pressure has to be, but it is a balance between
spring pressure and hydraulic pressure.

Gary

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , kimberlite <kimberlite@...>
wrote:

Gary,

When the engine is not running the brake does not close. Hydraulic
pressure
is only needed when the engine is running.

My problem is the reverse of yours. Your brakes did not open, mine do not
close.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





_____

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of amelliahona
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 12:42 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Amel] Re: Hydraulic shaft brake





Eric: When my boat was one month old, (SM # 335, 2001) I noticed that my
hydraulic shaft brake was not actuating properly. Amel, sent a team to the
Canary Islands to effect repairs under warranty. What they found was that
the transmission was not putting out the specified amount of hydraulic
pressure to actuate the brake actuator. The repair required replacement of
the transmission, all done very efficiently by Amel at not cost to me. I
don't know what the specs are for the pressure or anything else beyond
this
but perhaps you could begin trouble shooting by measuring the hydraulic
actuating pressure by "T" ing a pressure gauge into the hydraulic line. Of
course firstly, verify that the transmission has the proper fluid level.
Another thing you might try, to verify that the hydraulic piston is
working
normally, would be to remove it, and actuate it with regulated compressed
shop air so that you could verify at what pressure it actuates etc.

Just a couple of thoughts.

Gary Silver
s/v Liahona
On the hard at Spice Island Marine Services in Grenada

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , kimberlite@ wrote:

I am having trouble with the hydraulic shaft brake on my 100 hp yanmar.
The brake shoes do not close completely and the shaft continues to spin.
.
To temporarily repair this I placed a block of wood between the
hydraulic
actuator and the engine mount frame and that applied enough pressure to
close the brake shoes. The brake shoes do not appear worn. I also do not
know which way to turn the bolt on the actuator to tighten the brake shoe
clearance.
Any suggestions?
Fair winds
Eric SM 376 Kimberlite


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