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Re: Lee Sails or equivalent
smiles bernard
Thanks very much all
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Sounds like I might try a few alternatives to Lee Craig - yes I did mean uk manufactured. The quote was from Crusader who I think are good and made out as yet unused new Genoa. Thanks for the tip about ‘Uk sailmakers’ I’ll drop them a line Many thanks Miles
On 18 Mar 2019, at 17:24, Craig Briggs via Groups.Io <sangaris@...> wrote:
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Re: Cleaning Santorin Diesel tank
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James Alton
Herbert,
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I concur with Joels advice RE the professional tank cleaning. I am however concerned about the quantity of water that you have removed from your filters, especially given that you have been filtering your fuel. That seems like way too much for condensation. I am not sure of where the tank fill is on the Santorin but I would suggest having a good look at your tank fill O-ring to be sure that it is in top shape. I replace the O-ring on my tank fill every couple of years and also apply some grease to the O-ring to further improve the seal. As a simple test for leakage, you can carefully insert some dry paper towel into the fill, install the cap in the normal way, wet the tank fill with a pressurized hose, remove the cap and check to see if there is any water soaked into the paper towels. Just be super careful that you don’t lose the towels down the fill with this test. The tank vent can also be a potential source of water, if the fuel fill seems fine, I would have a look at the vent. Best of luck. I hope that you find the source of the water in your fuel and can get the tank cleaned. James SV Sueno Maramu #220
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Re: Cleaning Santorin Diesel tank
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Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Hi Herbert, been there. We fueled in the Galapagos and were in no wind after a couple of days. We motored for a few hours and the perspex bowl at the bottom of the raor was full of water. We stopped the engine and drained the water and replaced both the racor and the on engine filter. The racor had stopped all the water.There was no water in the second filter. Started up and in short order there was water in the racor bowl again. Being mid Pacific and lacking options we drained it and carried on. Kept a careful eye on it and drained the water before the glass was full. Did this several times and eventually the water stopped. Clearly we had got water in our fuel in the Galapagos The racor let no water through and we had no further problems. Since the racor on first inspection had stopped all the water I felt confident in this approach. Important to catch it before the racor bowl was overfull. Made it from there to NZ through all sorts of conditions with no problems. Been a fan of Racors ever since. They did the job they were there to do. I have two. One services the engine, the other the gen set. Kind Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl
On 19 March 2019 at 10:42 Herbert Lackner <herbert@...> wrote:
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Re: Cleaning Santorin Diesel tank
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amelforme
In most areas with a large yachting presence and commercial fishing fleets, one can usually find commercial tank cleaning/fuel polishing contractors who also have the capability or the resources elsewhere to put access ports in the fuel tanks. You could start out by seeking the tank cleaning/fuel polishing service providers and asking them where you can find an experienced tradesman who can add access ports. You will need at least two and you can be guided by the marks made on the tank exterior where the internal baffles were welded. I am not near the sea today so perhaps someone could take a photo and post it here of a late model Super Maramu tank top with the access ports as done by Amel. Early series SM 53 also did not have access ports in the fuel tanks until about 1997, but I am not sure of the actual date these ports were incorporated. Make sure the ports are big enough to allow access to the entire interior of the tanks in order to perform a complete cleaning of all internal surfaces. Otherwise, any biologic material will just regenerate and start the ugly cycle all over again.
Hope this helps you, Joel
JOEL F. POTTER-CRUISING YACHT SPECIALIST~L.L.C. THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY UNSURPASSED AMEL MARKETING EXPERIENCE AND PRODUCT KNOWLEDGE Office 954-462-5869 Cell 954-812-2485
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Re: Easy way to access the Amel Yacht Owners Group has been provided and paid for by longtime member.
rossirossix4
Hi,
You are welcome. For years we pointed the domain AmelOwnersGroup.com to the old site. It, along with AmelYachtOwnersGroup.com is now pointed to the new site. Data (on the old site) showed monthly "hits" in the hundreds each month, so we knew many owners were using it. We will keep AmelOwnerGroup.com active for another year at least and AmelYachtOwnersGroup.com indefinitely. It is a very, very small price to pay for what has been an outstanding resource. Let me be a bit sentimental. Before we bought our first Amel, a Santorin 16 years ago, I spent countless hours scouring the group for information about the reality of owning and operating an Amel and was thoroughly and I mean completely convinced that the Amel was a safe, well thought out cruising boat with minimal maintenance problems and good access to fix anything that needed to be fixed. I'm happy to report that this indeed has been the case. But...our first real introduction to the Amel World (around 30+ years ago) was through the highly informative and well written ads by Joel Potter that appeared in Cruising World (along with other sailing magazines). Joel did an amazing job of thoughtfully conveying just how good a boat these Amels were and I give him full credit for initiating our interest in these great boats. Bob and Suzanne, KAIMI Super Maramu 429 Currently anchored in Fort-de-France and about to go over to dinner with newer Amel owners Paul and Lorraine on SM Maracuya
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Cleaning Santorin Diesel tank
#Wiki
Herbert Lackner
Hi Amelians,
just started to cross the pacific, after three days without wind, lot of waves and using the engine the water separator and the racor filter have been full of brown water. I cleaned it several times, after an hour it was always full again. I put out maybe 2 liters of brown ugly dirty water and we decided to sail back to Costa Rica to fix that. Up to now I never had any drop of water in the water separator, checked this once a year. We always fill up using a water-filter so it might be condensed water. After changing and cleaning several times now (in shallow water) no dirt comes out, but there might be some more in the tank that is waiting for the next waves. I do not know what the problem is, I assume that the water is there already since some time, but only when motoring in heavy seas (what we have not done for a long time) it was "shaked" and mixed with the clean diesel. When we refueled in Golfito I added some Biozid, maybe this "killed" the bacteria and created the dirt... Our Santorin has no service port for the diesel tank (for me that is a design issue...), so cleaning needs some creativity. Had anyone the same problem, how did you solve that? How to clean the tank to get all the dirt out without service port? Did anyone add a service port? thx, herbert, SN120, KALI MERA Costa Rica (again)
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Re: Lee Sails or equivalent
Miles,
By "UK manufactured" sails, may I assume you mean United Kingdom, not the brand "UK Sailmakers". We've had two sets done by UK Sailmakers, one at their New York loft (actually made in China and finished at the NY loft) and one at their loft in Marmaris, Turkey (actually made at the loft in Marmaris). All have been excellent and very well priced. Craig SN68
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Re: Lee Sails or equivalent
We've been very happy with our new TriRadial Cut Pro Radial Genoa made by Q Sails, part of Bill's Yacht School discount program. Great product and an even better price.
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Ian & Margaret S/V Loca Lola II SM153 Exumas, Bahamas
On Mar 18, 2019, at 3:16 PM, smiles bernard via Groups.Io <smilesbernard@...> wrote:
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Re: Different Yanmar 4JH3-HTE and other yanmar Specific Fuel Consumption
mr_hermanns <jeremy@...>
I've got a 4JH4-TE in a OG Maramu.
Burns about 1GPH at ~2,000-~2,100 RPM @ around 6kts'ish @2,400RPM we do about 7kts'ish and burn over 2GPH. Not sure if that helps ;) -- Jeremy Hermanns - "Jer" SVCerulean.com Maramu #105 Marina Del Rey, CA
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Re: Easy way to access the Amel Yacht Owners Group has been provided and paid for by longtime member.
mr_hermanns <jeremy@...>
Thanks Bob!
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Re: Lee Sails or equivalent
Miles, Some people who have had experience with Lee Sails may give a favorable answer because the Lee Sails they received were much better than the worn sails they replaced and the sails the Lee Sails were cheaper than anything else they could buy. However, that experience is no basis for comparison to other sails made by other sailmakers. Regarding Lee Sails, I have seen their sails installed on 2 SMs. They were not only cut the wrong size, but they were the worst made new sails I have ever seen...and I have seen plenty. Best,
On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 2:16 PM smiles bernard via Groups.Io <smilesbernard=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote: Hello
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Lee Sails or equivalent
smiles bernard
Hello
Does anyone have any experience of Lee Sails? We are considering them as an almost half price alternative for UK manufactured sails. Normally we get what we pay to a degree but the price difference is enough for me to pause and consider. Our Maramu has the single spreader isomat masts without furler ( just slab reefing ) so reasonably simple sails I am being quoted for fully battened with cars that go into the mast luff box - we have them currently and they work ok. Any thoughts or experience most welcome Many thanks Miles Maramu 162
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Re: Dual Pre Filters for Fuel
Germain Jean-Pierre
Hi Alan, I have the same mechanics and installed twin 7550. Work very well. Jean-Pierre , Eleuthera, SM007 Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
-------- Original message -------- From: "Alan "Woody" Wood" <woody@...> Date: 19/03/2019 00:46 (GMT+12:00) To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Dual Pre Filters for Fuel Hi guys..
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Re: Engine room lining on Amel 54
Looks the same as my 54
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On Mar 18, 2019, at 1:29 AM, s/v Paloma <sailingpaloma1@...> wrote:
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Re: Anode wear
Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
Thanks to all for your good advice - I will check at the next haulout.
-- Cheers Paul Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98
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Re: Gas pipe size - SM
Ian Park
Santorin is 8mm. 5/16”. Presume SM is same.
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Gas pipe size - SM
David Cummane
Hi
Can someone advise the (copper) gas pipe size feeding into the gas locker on a SM? I am sizing the fittings for the suggested Burkert solenoid valve (6013/125301) but am not on board to measure the pipe. I assume it is 1/4 inch. Many thanks David SM #101
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Re: Dual Pre Filters for Fuel
amelforme
The Racor Duplex 500 works. Amel placed the filters low specifically to make it easy to prime/bleed with even minimum fuel in the tank without the need of a electric prime pump. Pumps that get used infrequently often get atrophy and fail prematurely. JOEL F. POTTERCRUISING YACHT SPECIALIST LLC THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY Office 954-462-5869
On Mar 18, 2019, at 7:46 AM, Alan Woody Wood <woody@...> wrote:
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Re: Dual Pre Filters for Fuel
Stefano Biffi
Hi woody I did same last year: rancor double filter. I am far from the boat to tell you exactly the data. Same engine, position behind the two alternators, no problem in the last 85 hours last year.
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Where are you and hull number? Stefano N’EVEREST sm 185 in Italy
Il giorno 18 mar 2019, alle ore 14:46, Alan Woody Wood <woody@...> ha scritto:
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Dual Pre Filters for Fuel
Alan "Woody" Wood
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