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Re: Now locker floor replacement
Aletes locker drain was also blocked. Pushing a fish (wire puller) up the drain pipe from the T in the foreword head bilge broke it loose. Water gushed out along with the mud and sand. Hose pressure through the holes in the anchor locker floor cleaned out the rest.
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Key to this was the access now afforded through the port bow locker floor now completed. Mike Ondra Aletes SM240  On May 19, 2019, at 5:51 PM, Germain Jean-Pierre <jp.germain45@...> wrote:
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Re: Tidbits
Nice one Mark!! Sorry we missed meeting you guys by not very far. We came through Panama two weeks ago and are now in Ecuador. Best regards Colin & Lauren on SV Island Pearl II, sm#332 On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 3:02 PM Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:
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Tidbits
(not sure where I found this so as to give credit where due)
Ever wonder where the terms port (left) and starboard (right) came from?
Ships used to have their rudders affixed to the right side, and this was the side they steered from. 'Starboard' is a corruption of 'steorbord' or 'steer-board.' In fact, the word 'steer' comes from the Old Norse 'stýri' meaning rudder.
When pulling into port, ships approached with the land on their left side to avoid damaging the rudder. This is why that side is called 'port side.' It was originally called 'larboard,' derived from 'load-board' (the side you load cargo on), but they decided that the term sounded too similar to 'starboard' and changed it.
When two ships crossed paths, the one on the right side had the right-of-way (hence the name). Since ships often passed in the dark of night, they needed a way to determine the location and orientation of other vessels. So, they affixed a red light to left (port) side and a green light to the right (starboard) side.
If the red light of the other ship was visible, it meant that their left side was facing you, thus they were on the right, and that you should yield to them. If their green light was visible, then you were the one with the right-of-way. This is where we get our modern traffic signal colors: red means stop and green means go. This same color system is still used today on aircraft.
If you have trouble keeping it all straight, remember that port wine is red, and that there's never any left in the morning. Incidentally, port wine is named after the Portuguese seaport city of Porto, from which it was originally exported. All three of those uses of port that I just boldfaced are derived from the Latin word 'portus' meaning 'harbor.'
Now you know.
With best regards,
Mark
Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 Currently cruising - Panama www.creampuff.us
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Re: Marco UP6/E pump and MASS+ light
We have a Marco pump on Elyse and don't have it connected to the bonding system.
As I understand it the bonding system as far as pumps etc go is only applicable to those items in contact with salt water. Regarding the 24V indicator panel light, we have the original wire connected to the red wire between the smart sensor and the pump. The green light on the panel comes on when the pump cycles and goes off when it stops. Our pump has been installed now for 2+ years and we have had no issues with it. Cheers Alan Elyse SM437 |
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Re: Now locker floor replacement
Germain Jean-Pierre
Hi Gang, I solved the problem by always using the chain wash (now fresh water on our boat) and at least once a year… doing a pressure wash in the chain well compartment. Cheers from Fiji. Jean-Pierre Germain, SY Eleuthera, SM 007
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Re: Now locker floor replacement
Thomas Kleman
Mike- your floor looks great. I know how hard it is to cut and refine that shape. On L'ORIENT my chain locker bilge (under that glassed in perforated grate at the bottom of the chain locker) was hoplessly clogged. I ended up cutting an access port in it so I could vacuum it out periodically.....it drains fine now. Wondering if other people have this problem or I just pick muddier places to anchor than most.....the actual outlet underneath there is about 15mm above the bottom and offset.
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Re: The two "sticks" on the genoa top swivel
Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Hi Mike, a while back I posted a photo of a tongue that goes through the inner of the swivel and into the slot in the foil. This locates the center and prevents the scratching you mention. This tongue often wears through. A number of SM owners have found this. There is one important feature, which if missing allows this wear to occur. This is a nylon "pencil" that sits in the foil with a mating slot in it for this tongue. I believe this "pencil" is often lost when non Amel riggers are doing work. The tongue is secured by two grub screws easily accessed. I suggest you check for the tongue and the nylon pencil. I am picking you will find both missing. Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl On 20 May 2019 at 03:14 SV Trilogy <svtrilogy53@...> wrote:
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Re: Windlass switch
Gregory Shea
Duane,
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That makes perfect sense. Tomorrow’s job, thanks. One dollar to do the hitting, 49 for knowing where to hit.
Greg Shea
Sharki 133 Cap des Iles
Currently at Preveza
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Re: Windlass switch
Duane Siegfri
Greg,
I'm not sure from your question: are you trying to unscrew them from the outside of the casing? If so you need to remove the nuts on the aft of the windlass aluminum cover, then slide the cover aft. You'll find a nut on the inside of the case on the switch. Remove the wires first, then the nut. Make sure you use a good sealant that you can get apart later to make the switches watertight to the case. If the rubber boot you mention is the surface you press on, it has a lip that goes under the actual hard plastic switch that lies beneath. You'll have to remove the switch to replace that. On my SM this is the proceedure for the Lofrans Tigres, but on older models it might be different. Duane Wanderer, SM#477 |
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Re: Marco UP6/E pump and MASS+ light
Duane Siegfri
Scott,
I had the same issue (masse light) with my Marco UP3E pump. I would be very interested in what you may have learned.. I also removed the bonding wire from the pump to solve the problem. However, a year later the pump stopped running in a place I could not easily replace it. I disassembled the motor and found the motor brush wire was completely corroded and had fallen apart. I'm guessing that the corroded wire was touching the case??? As a temporary repair I soldered in a new brush wire, but I don't expect it to work for long. I'm not sure what caused the brush wire to corrode. Only one of them did, the other was fine. Now I need to replace the pump and I am not sure I want another Marco pump. The cause of the corrosion could be external to the pump I suppose. There were not any leaks wetting the pump. The only thing I can think of causing the corrosion was the plumbing fittings I used. They were advertised as 316 stainless steel, but they are corroding internally like mad. I'm replacing that plumbing with Pex, plastic fittings and stainless pinch rings. Duane Wanderer, SM#477 |
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Re: The two "sticks" on the genoa top swivel
Mike Longcor (SV Trilogy)
Thanks everyone for the informative responses on this topic. We're having a new set of horns fabricated and plan to cover them with some hose material. Anything one can do to reduce halyard wraps, cuts, jams, etc. is certainly worthwhile. On a side note, while up at the masthead I noticed the foil/extrusion was heavily scratched around it's circumference for several inches right where the top swivel would sit. Perhaps there's an issue with our top swivel and it should be taken apart and serviced? Although while at deck level it spins easily and sounds very smooth. Or maybe the threads on the one horn we had up there were too long and made contact with the foil while furling? Just wondering if anyone has ever seen anything similar on their boat. Sorry no photo at the moment but I'll try and get one. Cheers, Mike & Hannah SV Trilogy, SM#23 Panama On Mon, 13 May 2019, 08:05 Gary Wells, <gary@...> wrote: A short piece of fuel line and some contact cement make good "caps" for those 'horns'. |
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Re: Now locker floor replacement
Nice detail. I’m going to leave the steel stub in the floor. After installing the PVC pipe I’ll glass it in heavily as well. If the steel eventually rots out the PVC and fiberglass should conduct the chain into the locker effectively. Anyway that’s the theory.
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Mike  Aletes On May 19, 2019, at 10:27 AM, Thomas Kleman <lorient422@...> wrote:
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Re: Now locker floor replacement
Thomas Kleman
 This is my fillet/header....note the back starboard windlass bolt. 4 inch Pvc works. Despite the appearance, I used silicone to seal the header to pvc joint and supported the PVC from below with my flange ring .I can remove the PVC easily if it ever needs replacement. |
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Re: Now locker floor replacement
Thomas Kleman
 My thinking was that the other 3 windlass bolts were secured by large fillets to the floor and supported by the floor joint to the vertical divider. I just created a 4th fillet for the back starboard bolt that also served as a header for my 4 inch Pvc. This piece is secured under the windlass by 7 screws and 5200. It fits inside the 4 inch Pvc and allows access to the back starboard windlass bolt because the bolt goes through the header plate. |
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Windlass switch
Gregory Shea
I need to change out the switch on my Lofrans Tigres windlass. I have the switch but how do you remove the rubber (?) boot that protects the switch. From the parts diagram it looks like it unscrews but that didn’t seem to work. Suggestions?
greg Shea Sharki 133 Cap des Iles cuttently at Preveza |
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Re: Seagull spigot (things that make you go hmmm)
Possibly the filter requires 10-20 minutes of flow to flush out preservatives. Most do. Did you do this? Best, CW Bill Rouse Yacht School - Supporting Amel Owners www.YachtSchool.us 720 Winnie St Galveston Island, TX 77550 +1(832) 380-4970 On Sat, May 18, 2019, 6:56 PM Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:
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Re: Now locker floor replacement
Hi Tom. The bolt you’re talking about screws into a steel plate embedded in the fiberglass. That plate is I believe welded to the hawse pipe to transfer load to the hawse pipe.. With the rusting out of the hawse pipe the plate also rusted and broke away the fiberglass encasement. It is highly compromised.
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The structural load from the windlass is transferred to the hawse pipe and ultimately resolved down to the Locker floor and then over to the vertical divider between the two bow lockers as the primary structural resistance. Therefore our thought is to utilize an L-shaped steel strap bolted directly to the vertical divider between the bow lockers to receive the windlass bolt and thereby transferred load directly from the bolt to the vertical divider.  We do need to remember that the forces on these bolts are limited by the power of the windlass motor. Actual anchoring loads should be directed to the big cleat or with bridle to the port and starboard bow cleats. Having directed the loads directly to the vertical panel The hawse pipe no longer takes the structural load. Our next step with this is to find a piece of pipe PVC plumbing pipe or PVC conduit that will slip over the stubs of the old hawse pipe that we left behind. I will follow up after doing so. Mike Aletes SM240 On May 18, 2019, at 6:36 PM, Thomas Kleman <lorient422@...> wrote:
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Re: Now locker floor replacement
Hi Gary. Here are some pictures of the hawse pipe. With scale. Note how rotted out the steel pipe was.
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Mike Aletes SM#240 On May 19, 2019, at 12:44 AM, Gary Silver via Groups.Io <garysilver@...> wrote:
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Re: Now locker floor replacement
Gary Silver
Hi Mike, Looking good. Could you provide the ID (inside diameter) of the Amel hawse pipe?
Thanks, Gary S. Silver s/v Liahona Amel SM 2000 # 335 |
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Re: Seagull spigot (things that make you go hmmm)
Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Hi Thomas, my understanding has both readings well within acceptable limits Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl On 19 May 2019 at 10:49 Thomas Kleman <lorient422@...> wrote: |
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