Re: Dessalator control panel product site glass
Many thanks to all the very helpful comment, suggestion for this problem. Upon further investigation I found that my site glass is cracked. Per Tony’s post, I’ve emailed Stephan at CT Platon for replacement glass.
Regards, Kevin -- Kevin & Kristen Schmit KIANA SM #362 |
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Re: Dessalator control panel product site glass
Hi,
I have had almost exactly this same issue except the product water was exiting at the bottom of the flow meter glass because it had shattered as in the picture. I found replacement glass inserts with float directly from CT Platon in France - received them about a week ago. 77 euros each, min qty of 2 - a fix and a spare. Contact Stephan Liquard at CT Platon: s.liquard@... All your o-rings should be lubricated using food grade silicon grease before inserting and re-assembling. Also be aware that the plastic solenoid valve threaded inlet from the flow meter that directs the product either overboard or into the tank is susceptible to leaking also IF the system has been worked on previously as is the case with mine. Tony |
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Re: "silentwind" generator & bracket (to fit SM mizzen) for sale
Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Hi Chris, one thing I forgot to mention. The Super wind has an off switch for use in very strong winds or if service down stream needed and power needs to be turned off. It shorts the feed wires together which stops the blades (or dramatically slows them) and separates from the batteries.
Danny
SM
299
Ocean Pearl
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Re: "silentwind" generator & bracket (to fit SM mizzen) for sale
Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Hi Chris, you will get a lot of support for ditching the wind generator but not from me
I was fortunate to select a Super Wind and to place it on top of the mizzen. It is sient in all wind strength, and I mean silent not heard at all. There is a yacht just down the marina from me with two mounted quite low. Walking past can't hear a thing. It is vibration free, and I mean totally vibration free. It is designed for remote locations where maintenance is impractical. (Not sure if they were thinking about the top of a mast). It's blades are geared and feather mechanically automatically, not by Blade distortion like some. The design has total feathering above 40 knots so no need to fear it self destruction in storm force wind. Mounting. There is an oblong plate on top of the mizzen that extends beyond the extrusion
A hole in each corner and a matching plate on the bottom of the generator mast and you are done. I have a 5mm thick piece of hard rubber between. Nil nil vibration. Output. The graph provided with the unit shows minimal output at 10 knots good at 15, and excellent in wide 20 knots and above. I have two solar panels as well. Sunny and still, they do the work. Windy and cloudy super wind does the job.Sunny and windy. Wow. I see you are in NZ. I am on the work berth Opua marina this week. You are welcome to visit. Pedigree is on the main marina with the same set up.lastly my first one lasted 10 years before the bearings wore and I replaced it.
Danny
SM 299
Ocean Pearl
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Re: Dessalator control panel product site glass
Thanks for the photos. When/if you remove it, measurements, please.
On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 5:31 PM Kevin Schmit <kevschmit64@...> wrote:
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Re: Dessalator control panel product site glass
william reynolds
Had the same issue on my Dessolator site glass. Martin , in Spain had the answer. If you have the glass flowmeter and not the plastic one you are in luck. Simply Remove the sight glass panel from the panel and you will see there are o rings on either end of the glass. Clean up any dirt or corrosion, replace the o rings and you are back in business. Bill Reynolds Cloudstreet SM2K 331 |
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Re: "silentwind" generator & bracket (to fit SM mizzen) for sale
Ruslan Osmonov
Hi Chris,
Be careful with Wind Generator (WG) charging of LiFePO batteries, you should be able to somewhat easily stop the blades from spinning when you need to. - Unlike Solar, WG always produces energy (given there is wind), this is why you will see diversion or "load bank" installed with WG. the way it works is that when regulator senses battery full, it temporarily diverts flow into the load bank. Load bank could be a set of resistors, or a water heater, or a fan that can take unwanted energy and "dump" it. - MPPT won't work with WG out of the box. I spoke with few manufactures on this subject and they all said it's not going to work. During this process I also discovered that WG is not as popular as Solar and there are not that many options for WG regulators. Additionally most regulators are not designed to work with LiFePO batteries. - One thing with WG regulators is that in case of open circuit, the regulator will default into "unregulated voltage" mode. And this is where it gets very bad very quick.... a lot of people forget that LiFePO has a BMS and can shut off itself, in essence creating open circuit environment. In the case of Load Dump everyone immediately thinks of Engine Alternator and many forget about WG. One case you should be very aware of is that if your LiFePO battery charge gets full and then depending on BMS it can either shut off charging or charging and load. At this point all the energy from WG is no longer flowing into the battery and has to go somewhere. Usually before even getting to this point WG regulator should have sensed battery SOC and started diverting energy to the load bank, but image it did not. I think of a few reasons why it did not do its job. When wind is strong enough, i.e. good current flowing, this current blows the fuse to the WG regulator quickly. When this happens, WG regulator has no more power and the system defaults into open circuit mode, which results into "unregulated voltage" flowing through the circuit. If the wind blows 20-25knts the circuit will see 35-46V coming from the WG. if Red Switches are ON, this high voltage will start to flow into the circuit. At his point many electonics onboard are not going to like what they get Voltage wise. That is one scenario, but even if you pop the breaker to WG and deal with the aftermath, the problem still continues, as I mentioned before, WG always produces energy and now this energy is not going anywhere. At this point, in the worst case scenario, WG can create fire, so to prevent this you either have to tie off blades or divert energy into the load bank. If you did not prepare for this scenario, electronic diversion (or some call it break) won't work, since regulator is no longer operational. so the only option will be to tie off the blades, which is not going to be an easy task given good wind and it wont be possible if WG is somewhere up hight on the mast. Hopefully this makes sense and you are aware of possible risks with WG charging of LiFePO. -- Fair winds Ruslan Osmonov Phantom, A54 #44 |
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Re: problem with main sail furler tube
Marco, is it possible that the Foil Profile is broken and no longer attached? If the following is what you have, contact me for the procedures to repair it. It is not difficult.
On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 7:29 AM Marco Mancini <marcomancini61@...> wrote:
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Re: problem with main sail furler tube
Marco Mancini
Dears I had more than one time an unpleasant experience with the SM main sail . The lower part of the furler tube of the main sail has come off from its place inside the mast during sailing upwind . To keep it again inside the mast we putted the bow in the wind than with a big effort, manually , we lowered the main sail strongly puling it down. This action pulled down also the swivel that has bring back the tube inside the mast . I don’t think ( and I hope) that this problem could be determined by a reduced resistance of the main mast that could generate a higher deformation of the mast slot with the exit of the furler tube . This summer I had again this problem and I find that the main sail clew ring was wrongly connected ( by the wite rope) to the main sail clew ring on the furler tube, although this happened with the little reduced surface of the main sail indeed with the sail little rolled on the tube. After this episode I attached again the lower part of the main sail on the master tube in what I think is correct mode and the furler tube is remained inside the must also sailing upwind with reduced and full main sail . Please do you have some suggestion and idea on this problem .
Thanks Marco Mancini SM 304 Italy
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Re: Introduction: new owner of Amel Sharki N° 68 of 1982 Manua
Ciao Marco, complimenti per la tua nuova barca che sono certo ti darà molte soddisfazioni. Io sono il felice possessore dello Sharki n⁰ 1 del 1980 che ho comprato nel 1989. Nel 92 ho mollato tutto e sono partito e sono ancora in giro adesso, dopo 30 anni. Se posso esserti di aiuto in qualsiasi cosa scrivimi tranquillamente, dopo 33 anni lo Sharki lo conosco piuttosto bene!!! La mia mail è giorgio.ardrizzi@... e sul 3881190750 mi trovi con WhatsApp. Buon vento! Giorgio Il Mar 6 Dic 2022, 08:48 INUS - BUSCH <mail@...> ha scritto:
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Re: Introduction: new owner of Amel Sharki N° 68 of 1982 Manua
INUS - BUSCH
Hi Marco,
congratulation and welcome to the Sharki owners and AMEL group.
Dieter Fal-lera Sharki #135
Von: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Marco Baldan via groups.io
Dear fellow Amel owners, I had joined the Amel Yacht Owners Group about two years ago and here found plenty of useful information that led me to becoming an Amel Sharki owner: thanks to you all!
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Re: "silentwind" generator & bracket (to fit SM mizzen) for sale
Chris Paul
Thanks for your reply Jose, I would be most interested in any ideas or comments. I have numerous reasons for getting rid of the wind generator: 1. I want to be able to able to fly the Mizzen Ballooner. 2. I now have Lithium Batteries & my electrician said the wind generator does not work well with Lithium. 3. Even though the wind generator is a "silentwind" it is not silent. - When the wind gets up to 25-30Kn it puts a vibration through the boat (only 10A~240W). - I also do not wish to annoy my neighbours (or my partner). 4. Mostly it outputs between 3A-5A in 15Kn. In these conditions it is reasonably quiet. - good for trade winds but not NZ. Questions: 1. Can anyone tell me how difficult it is to put the wind generator on top of the mast. I assume: - the Mizzen needs to be taken out, (probably only worth it if mizzen needs to be taken out for other reasons) - aluminium fabrication required. Costly, I would love to know how much. Solar arch is also costly. 2. I assume to make this work for lithium: - Rewind the wind generator to a voltage significantly higher than 24V AC, (thinner wire, more turns??) - Rectify 3 phase AC into DC, - then use MPPT so it is controlled along with the solar panels. I would be interested if anyone has done this and integrated it into a LFP system. 3. I would be interested how others found the noise & vibration. Maybe it could be rubber mounted?? 4. Is it worth fixing/replacing? (cost/benefit??). My Calcs (best guess): In Trade wind areas 400W wind generator - is probably equivalent to 300W - 400W of solar In Non-Trade wind areas 400W wind generator is probably equivalent to 100W - 200W of solar My Conclusions: I suspect wind power, particularly for boats with LFP batteries & for boats outside the trades has had its day & once it is broken it is not worth fixing particularly if difficult fabrication (top of mizzen) is required. Regards, Chris Paul SV GLAZIG SM 352
On Tuesday, 6 December 2022 at 08:11:00 am NZDT, Jose Venegas via groups.io <josegvenegas@...> wrote:
Keeping it on top of the mizen mast gets more wind and does no interfere with the mizen balooner Jose Gabriel Ipanema SM 2k 278 |
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Re: Raising the waterline on an Amel that lists to one side?
Years ago I mentioned our listing problem to a Ft Lauerdale pro who mostly dealt with power boats. His quick answer was, "just lead her over, like we (powerboaters) do", meaning to place some lead on the starboard side to offset the list, be it from a generator to port, a stern heavy arch, or, nowadays, light weigh of lithium batteries to starboard.
There are many options. On our SN the starboard forward hanging locker is perfect. Just build some sturdy racks outboard of where the clothes hang, anchored to the fore and aft bulkheads so no load is on the hull, and lash or bolt some lead bricks onto them. Many options are available - this one gets the weigh forward to lift the stern as well as offset the port list. I initially reacted negatively to his suggestion as added weight seemed anathama to having a fast boat - he simply asked if I was racing anymore. Not. And, most likely, the waterline can stay at its original position. -- Craig Briggs - s/v Sangaris / SN68 Tropic Isle Harbor, FL |
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Re: Dessalator control panel product site glass
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Re: tb/OPEN CPN CM93 Vector charts/AYOG
Sending you a link to download CM93 charts of the world
On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 4:23 PM Teun BAAS <teun@...> wrote:
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Re: Dessalator control panel product site glass
Kevin, I have not seen the Dessalator Flowmeter outside of the control panel, but I have seen others. They generally have a glued or threaded top. Before you order a new one, check what you have. They all have threaded IN & OUT connections. I would really like a photo. You can find liquid flowmeters in a lot of places including Amazon.
On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 3:46 PM Kevin Schmit <kevschmit64@...> wrote:
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Re: tb/OPEN CPN CM93 Vector charts/AYOG
Michael Winand
https://o-charts.org/shop/en/oesenc/33-au.html Michael Nebo On Tue, 6 Dec 2022, 9:23 am Teun BAAS, <teun@...> wrote:
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tb/OPEN CPN CM93 Vector charts/AYOG
Morning,
I am trying to learn OPEN CPN and have installed on a MacBook Pro as well as on Windows laptop.
Can anybody tell me where I can find/download the CM93 VECTOR charts for OPEN CPN? Although I like to have access to all I specifically need AUSTRALASIA, POLYNESIA, MELANESIA right now.
Thanks for the help.
Best Regards Teun SV AMELIT A54 #128
HOPE ISLAND MARINA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA December 6, 2022 08:22:27
You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT
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Re: Creaking mizzen boom
Eloi Bamberg
Hi Sott,
I replaced the sheaves on my SM. I think the most important is to repolish the axles. After this, oiling the sheaves last again 1 season, before it was just 1or 2 weeks. |
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Dessalator control panel product site glass
Hello Amelians, As I increase the pressure regulator I started noticing a stream of water running out of the top of the site glass. I shut the unit down and removed the control panel and re taped and then tightened all of the water fitting connections. Fired unit back up and still have the water leak. It appears to be flowing out of the top of the sealed sight glass….? |
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