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Re: Introduction: new owner of Amel Sharki N° 68 of 1982 Manua

Courtney Gorman
 

Welcome Marco congratulations on your new to you AMEL 


On Dec 4, 2022, at 9:17 AM, Marco Baldan via groups.io <africanmarco@...> wrote:

Dear fellow Amel owners, 

Here I am, happy new owner of a 1982 Amel Sharki, the N° 68, named Manua.
My name is Marco Baldan and I am a humanitarian surgeon from Venice-Italy, with a strong passion for sailing life.
After multiple sailing experiences on friends boats, in 2011 I purchased in Holland a 27 feet Albin Vega that I upgraded for single-handed sailing and sailed, mostly alone from Holland to Italy in 2012. I eventually described this boat and the adventures I had with her in a book: The long route of the Spray and almost all I have discovered about this fantastic sailing boat: https://maredicarta.com/.../the-long-route-of.../t/170256
With the expansion of my family and my sailing ambitions, some two years ago, I started looking for more comfortable and larger blue water sailboats and read about the Amel Sharki. Thought this could be the right boat for me and looked for one to sail as a crew. Joined Manua on the Aegean Sea last year and got convinced so started searching the web for Sharki units for sale (at that time Manua was not for sale). Luckily for me, the previous owner contacted me earlier this year to inform me about his decision to sell her. Thanks to him, I could familiarize with Manua over some 10 weeks aboard and, after a survey by Olivier Beautè confirming the good conditions of the unit, I became her new happy owner :-)
Below the 2018 sale web page: I had joined the Amel Yacht Owners Group about two years ago and here found plenty of useful information that led me to becoming an Amel Sharki owner: thanks to you all! 


Fair winds and merry Christmas,
Marco Baldan

 


 
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Re: Freshwater pump - Wiring the Pilot Lamp on the 24v Panel

CW Bill Rouse
 

If you are interested in how to wire the pilot light when replacing an OEM pump with a Marco pump follow this link to download "Marco - How to wire the Green Light on the 24 Volt Panel": 

https://preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/files-requested-by-amel-yacht-owners.html


CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   

On Sat, Dec 3, 2022 at 11:58 PM Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> wrote:
I didn't notice much of a difference but I have to admit I don't blast the water at full volume very often. 

With the UP6/E, even our cockpit sprayer provides plenty of volume. When leaving all taps open to, say, empty out all 900 liters after a bleach cleaning, the bilge pump barely keeps up. I wouldn't want more flow, personally.

On Sat, Dec 3, 2022 at 9:30 PM Nick Newington via groups.io <ngtnewington=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Scott,

How do you find the flow rate with the UP6/E compared to the original pump? 

Kind regards

Nick

On 2 Dec 2022, at 20:02, Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> wrote:

there's


--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com

Introduction: new owner of Amel Sharki N° 68 of 1982 Manua

Marco Baldan
 

Dear fellow Amel owners, 

Here I am, happy new owner of a 1982 Amel Sharki, the N° 68, named Manua.
My name is Marco Baldan and I am a humanitarian surgeon from Venice-Italy, with a strong passion for sailing life.
After multiple sailing experiences on friends boats, in 2011 I purchased in Holland a 27 feet Albin Vega that I upgraded for single-handed sailing and sailed, mostly alone from Holland to Italy in 2012. I eventually described this boat and the adventures I had with her in a book: The long route of the Spray and almost all I have discovered about this fantastic sailing boat: https://maredicarta.com/.../the-long-route-of.../t/170256
With the expansion of my family and my sailing ambitions, some two years ago, I started looking for more comfortable and larger blue water sailboats and read about the Amel Sharki. Thought this could be the right boat for me and looked for one to sail as a crew. Joined Manua on the Aegean Sea last year and got convinced so started searching the web for Sharki units for sale (at that time Manua was not for sale). Luckily for me, the previous owner contacted me earlier this year to inform me about his decision to sell her. Thanks to him, I could familiarize with Manua over some 10 weeks aboard and, after a survey by Olivier Beautè confirming the good conditions of the unit, I became her new happy owner :-)
Below the 2018 sale web page: I had joined the Amel Yacht Owners Group about two years ago and here found plenty of useful information that led me to becoming an Amel Sharki owner: thanks to you all! 


Fair winds and merry Christmas,
Marco Baldan

 


 





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Re: Starlink -first impressions at Malta

Matt Salatino
 

We bought our SL in the US and brought it to Europe. Works fine, and continuously from Greece to Sicily. 

So far, changing continents didn’t affect function. 
Re: Sharki - Cockpit Table Ideas?

Marco Baldan
 

This is what I found (photo 2) on my recently purchased Sharki Manua (N° 68 of 1982), besides the original larger cockpit table (photo 1).
This beautiful table fits on the same support of the original table and still allows to move in the cockpit. It folds on a single leg and is hold horizontal by the mainsheet cleat. It is good for 2 persons.

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Re: Starlink -first impressions at Malta

Scott SV Tengah
 

Same 50% discount applies in NZ until the end of the year. 520nzd or about $333 usd.

I am very close to just buying it even though we plan to travel overland in NZ for a few months and won't be using it.

My intent is to use it in the Tropical South Pacific and SE Asia next year. That plan, of course, is dependent on Mr. Musk sticking to his 2023 timeline to provide service to the islands. Further, the T&Cs say you cannot change continents and I'm unclear if Mr. Musk considers NZ as Oceania and therefore the dish won't work in the tropical SP and Asia.



--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com
Re: Replacing Volvo D3-110C fuel injectors

Scott SV Tengah
 

Chris,

Apparently common rail injectors need to be coded to the ECU. This is the downside of a clean, efficient modern engine, I guess. Good thing it failed on the way to NZ and not when we're in Papua or Madagascar!


The Volvo D3 uses Bosch injectors. The local Volvo Penta mechanic has never coded a D3 but they have a Vodia tool, at least.


--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com
Re: Freshwater pump

Scott SV Tengah
 

I didn't notice much of a difference but I have to admit I don't blast the water at full volume very often. 

With the UP6/E, even our cockpit sprayer provides plenty of volume. When leaving all taps open to, say, empty out all 900 liters after a bleach cleaning, the bilge pump barely keeps up. I wouldn't want more flow, personally.

On Sat, Dec 3, 2022 at 9:30 PM Nick Newington via groups.io <ngtnewington=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Scott,

How do you find the flow rate with the UP6/E compared to the original pump? 

Kind regards

Nick

On 2 Dec 2022, at 20:02, Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> wrote:

there's


--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com
Re: Freshwater pump

David Vogel
 

Hi Ian & Judy

It did not occur to me not to hook it up
to the indicator light.
Both pump and light are still working
Ah hah, good to know.

Thanks,

David
SM$#396, Perigee, NZ


From: <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of "ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@...>" <ianjudyjenkins@...>
Reply to: <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Date: Saturday, 3 December 2022 at 10:50 pm
To: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Freshwater pump

Hi David,

About 10 years ago we switched to an ordinary Jabsco model. Slightly noisier, more powerful ( we don't have showering  teenagers on board ! )  . Cheaper than the original Amel pump. We carry a spare.

 It did not occur to me not to hook it up to the indicator light. 

Both pump and light are still working.

Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Greece

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of David Vogel <david.vogel@...>
Sent: 02 December 2022 22:55
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Freshwater pump
 
Hi all,

Faced with limited availability (and time) at the moment we needed to replace the already non-OEM freshwater pump, I elected to go for a generic electronically-controlled variable-speed constant-pressure pump, the JABSCO model 42755-0394 (so-called VFlo5), providing 19 LPM (5.0 GPM).

I was advised by Frank in Martinique that the electronic controller of the VFlo series pumps does not take kindly to being hooked up to a run-indicator lamp, such as we have on our 24v DC panel - apparently, doing so destroys the electronic controller.  Rather than test this advice, we have done without the indicator lamp since moving aboard.  We are as a consequence well attuned to the sound of the pump when operating.

The original VFlo5 I installed failed after 12 months, but the replacement has been running satisfactorily now for almost 5 years (touch wood).  I believe that the JABSCO 42755-series pumps are now obsolete, replaced by the functionally identical R4426 & R4320 series pumps by JABSCO's parent company XYLEM.  I understand the parts are interchangeable.

w: xylem.com/en-us/products--services/pumps-packaged-pump-systems/pumps/positive-displacement-pumps2/diaphragm/vflo-5.0-gpm-19-lpm-constant-flow-water-pressure-pumps-20508280/

Best,

David
SM#396, Perigee
Bay of Islands, NZ



From: <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of "Nick Newington via groups.io" <ngtnewington@...>
Reply to: <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Date: Saturday, 3 December 2022 at 6:10 am
To: "main@amelyachtowners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Freshwater pump

I have not had any luck sourcing the spares kit for the original AMFA freshwater pressure pump. IMNASA have no stock.

So much for my faith that the impeller would last forever with only freshwater use, it seams that the bronze impeller is worn slightly and now the pump does not like to prime as well as it used to when the tank is nearly empty. Tell tale sign is that it is beginning to fail.

So I am thinking of going for one of Marco’s pumps. The one I like is the UP 12/A 24v. It pumps 36 litres per minute. Could just fit on top of the existing pressure vessel.  Retail price 571 euros, but there is a discount available…

I have considered the electronic controlled ones but think that it is likely to be less reliable, and more costly. It may be more efficient and can, according to Marco be installed without a pressure vessel. So I see that advantage, but then I read that it is better to use a pressure vessel. So what is the advantage?
 
In my book the less electronic controls the better, especially considering the basic set up, with the current pump which worked flawlessly for 16 years;  simple mechanical pressure switch, the same as on the Marco, a pressure vessel to damp cycling and cushion the loads that I will continue to use.

Before I make the order I am open to persuasion as to a better option. Any opinions out there?

Kind regards

Nick Newington

S/Y Amelia Amel 54-019
Re: Placement of sails on headstay foil

CW Bill Rouse
 

Eric,

I think it can be aligned 180 degrees different than I show. Call me next week and I'll explain. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse 
Amel Owners Yacht School
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com 
Yacht School Calendar: www.preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/calendar.html


   


On Sat, Dec 3, 2022, 17:39 Eric Freedman <kimberlite.ef@...> wrote:

Thanks Bill

Yes They definitely got it wrong in Martinique.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2022 8:42 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Placement of sails on headstay foil

 

Maybe this helps you:



CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School

720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 

   

 

Bio & References

 

On Fri, Dec 2, 2022 at 7:30 PM Eric Freedman <kimberlite.ef@...> wrote:

I do not need to now how the motor is taken apart. I believe that they put the foil in the furler 180 degrees out of sync with the motor.

I need to know how the foil sits in the furler—in other words where do the grooves go in relationship to the furler.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io On Behalf Of Slavko Despotovic
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2022 8:14 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Placement of sails on headstay foil

 

Hi Leopold,

it is bad photo I have attached. Sorry for that.  Part needs painting. Other than that it is ok. Thank you for your offer.
--
Slavko
SM 2000
#279 Bonne Anse in Croatia

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Re: Placement of sails on headstay foil

Eric Freedman
 

Thanks Bill

Yes They definitely got it wrong in Martinique.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2022 8:42 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Placement of sails on headstay foil

 

Maybe this helps you:

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CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School

720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 

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On Fri, Dec 2, 2022 at 7:30 PM Eric Freedman <kimberlite.ef@...> wrote:

I do not need to now how the motor is taken apart. I believe that they put the foil in the furler 180 degrees out of sync with the motor.

I need to know how the foil sits in the furler—in other words where do the grooves go in relationship to the furler.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io On Behalf Of Slavko Despotovic
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2022 8:14 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Placement of sails on headstay foil

 

Hi Leopold,

it is bad photo I have attached. Sorry for that.  Part needs painting. Other than that it is ok. Thank you for your offer.
--
Slavko
SM 2000
#279 Bonne Anse in Croatia

Leroy Somer Bronze Gear Available from a Machine Shop in Houston

CW Bill Rouse
 

Jason Rutledge recently had copies made of the Leroy Somer Bronze gear in Leroy Somer Gearboxes.

If interested, here are the details:

 Leroy Somer Bronze Gear Made in Houston, Texas.pdf


CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   
Re: Creaking mizzen boom

JB Duler
 

Neil, we found that the creaking was coming from the boom sheave. But why? After a close look we found that the out-haul line was too stretchy and the sheave was facilitating that.
There is always this balance between too stretchy and no stretch at all (dyneema). We switched to dyneema at the end.
--
John Bernard "JB" Duler
San Francisco
Meltem # 19, Western Med
Re: Creaking mizzen boom

Neil Meyrick
 

Thanks Bill for the info as always - and thanks Scott for reassuring me that this is not likely to go away any time soon!

I’ll certainly have a go at cleaning and lubricating the sheaves but just knowing that it is a normal part of the boat’s living and breathing and not a sign of impending problem is great
Re: Starlink

Matt Salatino
 

Re: Freshwater pump

WASABI - Rudolf Waldispuehl
 

Nick

 

Please get in touch with Dott.ssa Chiara Fruzza from Gianneschi. She is very helpful (and a Doctor btw); - I explained what kind of pumps (Climma and Fresh Water pump) I have on Board and she directed me to the right dealer (See e-mail below). The two Pumps are Autoclave systems CB 20 ME and the ACB 61 G.

Both Climma and Fresh Water are Italian brand and I got the complete set including Seals, O-rings, capacitors, etc. I was very happy and I rebuild the Climma Pump who was leaking. The Freshwater is still working well but the 8lt. accumulator tank bladder was defect, so I changed it completely was only 77€.

 

Happy sailig

Ruedi

WASABI A54-No.55

==========================================================================

Dear Rudolf

In Spain you could contact:

Blaunaval SL : C/Gremi Sucreres i Candeleres, 40 / Pol. Son Castelló / 07009 Illes Baleares - Spain

Ph. +34 971 703686  Mobile + 34 667 543 924  E-mail: info@...

Gianneschi’s specialist:  Mateo Nadal Segui

  

Importaciones Nautica S:A.      Ctra. Fornells, 13 – Zona Industrial Les Ferries 17459 – Girona –  

Ph. +34 972481100 – Fax. +34 972481115 – E-mail: imasa@...

Gianneschi’s specialist: Mr. Juan Duratio

     

Precision Marine Engineering S.L (Mr. Poima 27, Poligon Can Valero,

07011 Palma De Mallorca. Ph. +34 971297601 Fax +34 971297601 E-mail: spares@...

Gianneschi’s specialist: Camino Prieto

 

Kind regards

-- 

Dott.ssa Chiara Fruzza 
Ufficio commerciale estero / Export sales dept. 
fruzza@... 
In case of complaints write to claim@...
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via Luigi Gianneschi 270 - 55041 Capezzano Pianore - Lucca - ITALIA
Tel +39 0584 365101 (r.a.) Fax +39 0584 969411 
Web Site: www.gianneschi.net - E-mail: info@...
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If you are not an intended recipient(s),please notify to info@... promptly and destroy this message

 

Il 17/12/2020 14:41, Rudolf Waldispuehl ha scritto:

Dear Dott.ssa Giara

 

You gave me the contacts last summer to order Service Kit’s for your pumps and Autoclave systems CB 20 ME and the ACB 61 G.

I’m now looking for a distributor/dealer in SPAIN (Mainland). Can you give me an address where I order parts for the Gianneschi Pumps and Autoclave in SPAIN?

 

Thanks for advice and best regards

Rudolf Waldispühl

SY WASABI

 

Von: Chiara Fruzza <fruzza@...>
Betreff: Re: Fwd: Service Kit's, & Carbone, etc.

Dear Rudolf,

We suggest to contact:ù

Versilia Supply Service Srl  (Mr. Paolo Cei – Mr Roberto Tedeschi – Mr. Stefano Tomei ) 

Via Coppino 433, 55049 Viareggio - Lucca 

Ph. +39 (0)584 387461   Fax: +39 (0)584 311322 Mobile: +39 3450958130 “Stefano”

E-mail: paolo@... – roberto@...  - stefano@...

More Info and WebChat: www.versilia.it

Kind regards

Dott.ssa Chiara Fruzza 
Ufficio commerciale estero / Export sales dept. 
fruzza@... 
In case of complaints write to claim@...

 

Von: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> im Auftrag von "Nick Newington via groups.io" <ngtnewington@...>
Antworten an: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Datum: Freitag, 2. Dezember 2022 um 18:10
An: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Betreff: [AmelYachtOwners] Freshwater pump

 

I have not had any luck sourcing the spares kit for the original AMFA freshwater pressure pump. IMNASA have no stock.

 

So much for my faith that the impeller would last forever with only freshwater use, it seams that the bronze impeller is worn slightly and now the pump does not like to prime as well as it used to when the tank is nearly empty. Tell tale sign is that it is beginning to fail.

 

So I am thinking of going for one of Marco’s pumps. The one I like is the UP 12/A 24v. It pumps 36 litres per minute. Could just fit on top of the existing pressure vessel.  Retail price 571 euros, but there is a discount available…

 

I have considered the electronic controlled ones but think that it is likely to be less reliable, and more costly. It may be more efficient and can, according to Marco be installed without a pressure vessel. So I see that advantage, but then I read that it is better to use a pressure vessel. So what is the advantage?

 

In my book the less electronic controls the better, especially considering the basic set up, with the current pump which worked flawlessly for 16 years;  simple mechanical pressure switch, the same as on the Marco, a pressure vessel to damp cycling and cushion the loads that I will continue to use.

 

Before I make the order I am open to persuasion as to a better option. Any opinions out there?

 

Kind regards

Nick Newington

 

S/Y Amelia Amel 54-019

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Re: Raising the waterline on an Amel that lists to one side?

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Hi Scott,

In common with many SM owners we found ourselves having to clean the aft waterline too often. After studying a variety of waterlines on different yachts we took the plunge when we put Coppercoat on in 2009 and we raised the Coppercoat to the top of the bootstripe. We added a fresh bootstripe above that.

We no longer have to clean the waterline.  If you look closely, the hull now looks sleeker, but in practice no one  notices the change. In 13 years it has yet to be noticed by any other SM owner.

Maybe they are just being polite---but Amel owners are not slow to express their views on aesthetics , so I don't think so.

Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Greece

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Ruslan Osmonov <rosmonov@...>
Sent: 02 December 2022 22:33
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Raising the waterline on an Amel that lists to one side?
 
Hi Scott, my 2c. Why not raise it to one of red stripes? 
If you try to make the waterline even, then later If the boat is balanced again, the water line will become crooked. To me uneven bottom paint is not a problem, uneven gelcoat height is a huge and rubbing stick into my eye.
I think you also want to preserve AMELs higher bow waterline. A lot of people buy into AMEL philosophy and dont always like deviating from it. If you use stripes and raise it up to them all around, I think it will work.         

On Fri, Dec 2, 2022 at 3:55 PM Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]
[Reason: mistake]

After nearly 5 years of scrubbing growth off our gelcoat in beautiful tropical locations, we've given up and decided to raise the waterline.

As with many Amels, we are a bit stern heavy, accentuated by the fact that we have a beefy solar arch and Simpson davits, which often hold our 100kg dinghy+motor combination at night on anchor. 

However, we are also suffering the "lithium list" as a result of losing nearly 300kg from our battery bank, located under the starboard side passage berth. This, combined with the heavier 11kw "comfort package" Onan on port, means that our previous 0.5 degree list has now increased to 1.5 degrees to port. 

Anyone repaint their waterline with a list like this? How did you manage it? The boatyard here in NZ believes if we have unequal height painted waterlines on port-stb, it will look terrible. As such, they want to have 8cm of bottom paint showing at the highest point (starboard bow) and then carry that laser aimed line through both sides to the stern. That would mean there is more bottom paint showing on starboard side, but at least port side won't have gelcoat underwater.

I have virtually no artistic sense, but I was considering a painted waterline that was higher on port, where the boat is heavier, but the painter believes, probably rightfully so, that theres's no good way to have the uneven height lines meet at the bow/stern.

Part of me is considering just ditching our Onan because we've used it a grand total of 8 hours in the last 12 months, despite being mostly off-grid!

Any thoughts or experiences that could help guide me? Thanks!

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


--
Fair winds
Ruslan Osmonov
Phantom, A54 #44

Re: A54 docking plan and hull support for Keel Foot repair/repaint

WASABI - Rudolf Waldispuehl
 

Thank you Bill, Nick, Mohamad et all,

 

I agree with your comments and I was somehow sure not to support the boat on the hull solely without support on the keel. But the yard asked because it’s too long time to keep the boat on the slings to apply epoxy multiple times before copper-coat.

The best option is as Nick mentioned, to have blocks of wood and when fully dry move the wood blocks to get access to the unpainted section. The keel sections needs to be dry as well before painting and the best is to move wood support around while sanding, painting, etc.

 

Thanks and best regards

Ruedi on WASABI in Lanzarote

 

Von: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> im Auftrag von CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>
Antworten an: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Datum: Freitag, 2. Dezember 2022 um 17:40
An: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Betreff: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] A54 docking plan and hull support for Keel Foot repair/repaint

 

I believe the question posed to Ruedi is: To get access to 100% of the ballast, including the underside, can the full weight of the boat be supported by stands?

 

I am sure the answer is no. 

 

I have known of more than one occasion whereby new epoxy was applied to the bottom of the ballast while the boat is suspended in travel lift slings. And, as David said above, the boat could be suspended by cables attached to the chainplates. I know that when every SM and every 54 was in production at Amel, the boat was suspended by cables attached to chainplates, but these boats were not rigged or loaded. I am not sure of the maximum vertical force the chainplates were designed for, although several of us have used this method to lift onto a transport ship.



CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School

720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 

   

 

On Fri, Dec 2, 2022 at 10:26 AM Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...> wrote:

Hi Reudi,

 

Maybe I’m misunderstanding the question. The Keel can be worked on with the boat set on normal stands in the yard. The height of the stands can be adjusted so you can have adequate access under the keel.  

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of WASABI - Rudolf Waldispuehl via groups.io
Sent: Friday, December 2, 2022 2:33 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] A54 docking plan and hull support for Keel Foot repair/repaint

 

Hi All

 

I need to epoxy/repaint my A54 Keel-Foot. Therefore the boat yard is asking for a docking-plan, and if we can dock the A54 supported on the Yard without the Keel Support, if this is possible at all?
I tried to find out in the owners manual how we can support the A54 on a boat yard for painting the Keel Foot (sole). There is no docking plan in the documentations. I asked SAV for such a document; - how and where to support the boat-hull without the bottom keel support in order to re-paint the Cast-Iron with Epoxy and further. I have no answer yet and maybe someone of you did it, or has the experience doing so.

Any successtions?

Best regards

Ruedi Waldispuehl

SY WASABI

AMEL54 #055

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Re: Freshwater pump

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Hi David,

About 10 years ago we switched to an ordinary Jabsco model. Slightly noisier, more powerful ( we don't have showering  teenagers on board ! )  . Cheaper than the original Amel pump. We carry a spare.

 It did not occur to me not to hook it up to the indicator light. 

Both pump and light are still working.

Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Greece

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Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Freshwater pump
 
Hi all,

Faced with limited availability (and time) at the moment we needed to replace the already non-OEM freshwater pump, I elected to go for a generic electronically-controlled variable-speed constant-pressure pump, the JABSCO model 42755-0394 (so-called VFlo5), providing 19 LPM (5.0 GPM).

I was advised by Frank in Martinique that the electronic controller of the VFlo series pumps does not take kindly to being hooked up to a run-indicator lamp, such as we have on our 24v DC panel - apparently, doing so destroys the electronic controller.  Rather than test this advice, we have done without the indicator lamp since moving aboard.  We are as a consequence well attuned to the sound of the pump when operating.

The original VFlo5 I installed failed after 12 months, but the replacement has been running satisfactorily now for almost 5 years (touch wood).  I believe that the JABSCO 42755-series pumps are now obsolete, replaced by the functionally identical R4426 & R4320 series pumps by JABSCO's parent company XYLEM.  I understand the parts are interchangeable.

w: xylem.com/en-us/products--services/pumps-packaged-pump-systems/pumps/positive-displacement-pumps2/diaphragm/vflo-5.0-gpm-19-lpm-constant-flow-water-pressure-pumps-20508280/

Best,

David
SM#396, Perigee
Bay of Islands, NZ



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Date: Saturday, 3 December 2022 at 6:10 am
To: "main@amelyachtowners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Freshwater pump

I have not had any luck sourcing the spares kit for the original AMFA freshwater pressure pump. IMNASA have no stock.

So much for my faith that the impeller would last forever with only freshwater use, it seams that the bronze impeller is worn slightly and now the pump does not like to prime as well as it used to when the tank is nearly empty. Tell tale sign is that it is beginning to fail.

So I am thinking of going for one of Marco’s pumps. The one I like is the UP 12/A 24v. It pumps 36 litres per minute. Could just fit on top of the existing pressure vessel.  Retail price 571 euros, but there is a discount available…

I have considered the electronic controlled ones but think that it is likely to be less reliable, and more costly. It may be more efficient and can, according to Marco be installed without a pressure vessel. So I see that advantage, but then I read that it is better to use a pressure vessel. So what is the advantage?
 
In my book the less electronic controls the better, especially considering the basic set up, with the current pump which worked flawlessly for 16 years;  simple mechanical pressure switch, the same as on the Marco, a pressure vessel to damp cycling and cushion the loads that I will continue to use.

Before I make the order I am open to persuasion as to a better option. Any opinions out there?

Kind regards

Nick Newington

S/Y Amelia Amel 54-019
Re: A54 docking plan and hull support for Keel Foot repair/repaint

WASABI - Rudolf Waldispuehl
 

Thank you David, I will keep the boat in the travel lift slings.

Cheers, Ruedi

 

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Betreff: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] A54 docking plan and hull support for Keel Foot repair/repaint

 

Hi rudolph,

  Yes.  My previous owners told me and showed a photo (attached) of using the lift padeyes near fore and aft side stays for extraction of the boat by crane when no sling travel lift is available.  My A54 manual describes this also (don't have that here at the office).  You could lift the boat from here and paint the  keel-foot.

 

David Dickman

SV Galini

A54#100

 

On Fri, Dec 2, 2022 at 4:33 AM WASABI - Rudolf Waldispuehl <Rudolf@...> wrote:

Hi All

 

I need to epoxy/repaint my A54 Keel-Foot. Therefore the boat yard is asking for a docking-plan, and if we can dock the A54 supported on the Yard without the Keel Support, if this is possible at all?
I tried to find out in the owners manual how we can support the A54 on a boat yard for painting the Keel Foot (sole). There is no docking plan in the documentations. I asked SAV for such a document; - how and where to support the boat-hull without the bottom keel support in order to re-paint the Cast-Iron with Epoxy and further. I have no answer yet and maybe someone of you did it, or has the experience doing so.

Any successtions?

Best regards

Ruedi Waldispuehl

SY WASABI

AMEL54 #055

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