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B&G Forward Scan Transducer Install

Matt & Michelle
 

Michelle and I are preparing for haulout in a few weeks, and intend to install a B&G Forward Scan transducer while out of the water. 

Question: Does anyone have any knowledge to share on do's and don'ts from your installation?  

Matt&Michelle
SV Talia SM#209
Hampton, VA


GPS roll over date issue. Relevant to previous topic

Matt Salatino
 

https://panbo.com/2022-gps-rollovers-furuno-airmar-jrc-and-who-else/

seems to be a relatively widespread issue……


Re: BT Silicone Lip Seal #solution #spares #replacement

JOSE PRIETO
 

Hi Mark!

Thanks for the suggestion, I will try myus.

Cheers

JP
--
Jose Prieto
SV Wayag, SM 323
Currently Aguadulce, Spain


Re: How to get the gearbox from the boom

Willem Kroes
 

Thank you all for the tips and documentation. My mechanic is infected at the moment by Covid, but I transferred all the information to him and he will do the job the coming week or so when he is recovered.

Best regards,

Willem Kroes

SM2k #351 Kavanga
now in Licata on Sicily


Re: Lofrans Tigres

 

Amel has never used DIN that I know of, but several owners, including me changed the gypsy to DIN.



CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   

On Sun, Jan 30, 2022 at 8:34 AM rob dillmann <rob.dillmann@...> wrote:
I am replacing my 38 years old Lofrans Tigres. Does anyone know whether Amel used DIN or ISO specifications for the gypsy?
I suppose ISO since these are generally used in southern europe.

Best regards,


Rob Dillmann
Westwind Mango 43


Lofrans Tigres

rob dillmann
 

I am replacing my 38 years old Lofrans Tigres. Does anyone know whether Amel used DIN or ISO specifications for the gypsy?
I suppose ISO since these are generally used in southern europe.

Best regards,


Rob Dillmann
Westwind Mango 43


Dimensions of Countertop Above Washing/Dryer for SM2K

Tilo Peters
 

Hi all,
I'm trying to make a cutting board for a friend with a SM2K that fits into the countertop area above the washing machine but I need the measurements. Could someone provide me the following:

Dimensions of the countertop
Position, height and width of the pull handle
Angle of the sloped wood on the port side (or the height of the console cover and the horizontal distance between the top and bottom)
Angle of the sloped fiddle on the starboard side as well as the height
Height of the fiddle on the forward and aft edges.

Thanks!
Tilo Peters
Biding my time until retirement and an Amel SM


Re: Rebuild of Main , manual gearbox

 

Eric,

Yes, Amel has a rebuild kit that will fit the foils on a SM and 54, except for late model 54s where Amel increased the size of the foil on the 54 main furler.

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CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   

On Sat, Jan 29, 2022, 22:36 Eric Freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:

The last 2 days I had the pleasure of rebuilding the manual furler for the mainsail.

I would first like to thank Mother Ship Adrift for his video. It was very helpful. I saw in a later video that his epoxy reinforcement did not work and he came up with another solution.

I ran out of time so I am going to mount the rebuilt gearbox on the torn foil. When I return i will have a machinist cut a piece of solid round stock to fit inside of the foil with a groove cut into it to it to accommodate the sail track.

Does anyone remember Amel having a kit to repair the bottom of the foil?
I thought they had one years ago.

The only difference between my rebuild and Mother ship is that I had tubes of grease and a gear puller on board.
The image attached is the roller bearing that came out of my gearbox. I am surprised it worked at all.


Fair Winds

Eric
SM 376 kimberlite



Rebuild of Main , manual gearbox

Eric Freedman <kimberlite@...>
 

The last 2 days I had the pleasure of rebuilding the manual furler for the mainsail.

I would first like to thank Mother Ship Adrift for his video. It was very helpful. I saw in a later video that his epoxy reinforcement did not work and he came up with another solution.

I ran out of time so I am going to mount the rebuilt gearbox on the torn foil. When I return i will have a machinist cut a piece of solid round stock to fit inside of the foil with a groove cut into it to it to accommodate the sail track.

Does anyone remember Amel having a kit to repair the bottom of the foil?
I thought they had one years ago.

The only difference between my rebuild and Mother ship is that I had tubes of grease and a gear puller on board.
The image attached is the roller bearing that came out of my gearbox. I am surprised it worked at all.


Fair Winds

Eric
SM 376 kimberlite



Re: Amel Maramu replacement waterlock

Bill Kinney
 
Edited

Richard,

I believe what you are using there is 3" Trident FLEX wet exhaust hose. That hose is rated for a minimum bend radius of 9 inches, which  looks like a MUCH more gentle bend than you are trying to force it into. (See specifications here:  https://tridentmarine.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/250-Specifications-Sheet.pdf) This hose can not be heated to reduce its bend radius below the specified value.  Under enough heat to significantly soften the rubber, this hose will come apart--as you are finding.

You can either use a much more expensive silicone rubber hose with a significantly lower specified minimum bend radius, OR a fiberglass adapter elbow to make the bend.   My understanding (possibly wrong) was that on boats with your engine installation the Vetus LSG was the muffler that Amel used, yet the picture of your failed muffled does not look like that model?  The Vetus LSG has a rotating elbow on the exhaust inlet, which might make your hose routing a lot easier.

Also, if you are having trouble with air getting sucked into the engine cooling water circuit, suspect backflow through the air conditioning circuit.  If there is no functioning check valve in the system, enough air can get pulled in to prevent the low pressure alarm from actuating even if the inlet is totally blocked. It can certainly reduce cooling water flow in the engine enough to cause this problem.  Without the low pressure alarm going off, the only other OEM alarm is the high engine temperature.  By the time the engine temperature reaches the alarm, the exhaust system has been destroyed, as you have found.

With a plastic muffler, an exhaust temperature alarm to alert you too low raw cooling water flow is vital.  Borel or Aqualarm make units that work.

I'd add to that: A metal muffler does NOT make this problem very much less serious.  You might not destroy the muffler, but without sufficient raw water flow you can certainly destroy all the rubber hoses from the engine to the hull exhaust.  I doubt that very many of us carry a complete set of spares for all that length of large diameter hose!  A high exhaust temperature alarm is a really, really, good idea for any boat with a wet exhaust.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Hollywood, FL, USA


Re: Amel Maramu replacement waterlock

James Alton
 

Richard,

   The exhaust hose can easily handle the normal exhaust temperatures with cooling water flowing through.  But when the flow of cooling water is eliminated the temperatures rise considerably.  Your issue it seems to me is with the loss of cooling, not the exhaust hose.  

James Alton
SV Sueno
Maramu #220


-----Original Message-----
From: Richard May via groups.io <airwisrich2000@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Sun, Jan 30, 2022 3:35 am
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Amel Maramu replacement waterlock

At the risk of thread drift, here is what the melt looked like in place.  See the hard turn of the exhaust hose.  When I got the new hose, heated it and bent it, I could hear crackling on the inside as it began to come apart from the bending.  I am considering an adapter.  OR, a very stiff support in the style of this:



--
Richard May
SM 477 Avogato


Re: Amel Maramu replacement waterlock

Richard May
 

At the risk of thread drift, here is what the melt looked like in place.  See the hard turn of the exhaust hose.  When I got the new hose, heated it and bent it, I could hear crackling on the inside as it began to come apart from the bending.  I am considering an adapter.  OR, a very stiff support in the style of this:



--
Richard May
SM 477 Avogato


Re: Amel Maramu replacement waterlock

Richard May
 

I replaced the muffler recently after it melted down.  Exhaust coming up from engine room first looked like it was coming from over the side.
Upshot was that the raw water pump impeller cover had burn signature on it AND the "valley" where the o-ring resides for the cover of the impeller had started to deteriorate.  After thoroughly investigating the entire system for blockage, it is my opinion that air was getting in the impeller and causing it to loose prime or just not get the volume through that was required.  I did have the high temp alarm activate about the time I found the melted muffler.  Also, the exhaust hose between the turbo and the muffler had de-laminated at the sharp bend down by the muffler.












--
Richard May
SM 477 Avogato


Re: BT Silicone Lip Seal #solution #spares #replacement

JB Duler
 

Jose,
I am in California and will go to Spain probably in May if it is not late. Happy to help.
--
John Bernard "JB" Duler
San Francisco
Meltem # 19, Western Med


Re: BT Silicone Lip Seal #solution #spares #replacement

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Hello Jose;

 

We’re in California now and are planning to fly out to Kokomo in Montenegro in April. If you provide the manufacturer information, the part number, the quantity you need and your shipping address, I can try order and ship out for you.

 

Can anyone confirm that these also work with the A54 Bow Thruster?

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Erdos via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2022 9:34 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] BT Silicone Lip Seal #replacement #solution #spares

 

Perhaps a friendly and helpful Amel owner in the US would be willing to receive and then forward the seals to you.

 

Or worst case, you can use a freight forwarding company like myus.com

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of JOSE PRIETO
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2022 3:10 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] BT Silicone Lip Seal #replacement #solution #spares

 

Dear amelians,
I'm going to overhaul BT next month.
Does anyone in the group have a silicone lip seal kit that can sell me?
I have the boat in Spain and I exchanged some emails with the SSP manufacturer in the US, but they replied that they does not ship outside the US.

Can someone help me?

Jose Prieto
SV Wayag, SM 323
Currently AguaDulce, Spain


Re: BT Silicone Lip Seal #solution #spares #replacement

Mark Erdos
 

Perhaps a friendly and helpful Amel owner in the US would be willing to receive and then forward the seals to you.

 

Or worst case, you can use a freight forwarding company like myus.com

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of JOSE PRIETO
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2022 3:10 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] BT Silicone Lip Seal #replacement #solution #spares

 

Dear amelians,
I'm going to overhaul BT next month.
Does anyone in the group have a silicone lip seal kit that can sell me?
I have the boat in Spain and I exchanged some emails with the SSP manufacturer in the US, but they replied that they does not ship outside the US.

Can someone help me?

Jose Prieto
SV Wayag, SM 323
Currently AguaDulce, Spain


Re: Question how to do the alignment of the Furuno rudder reference unit fap-6112

 

I am not sure what you are doing but will add that you have to do the same process with each pilot.

Bill

CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   

On Sat, Jan 29, 2022 at 9:39 AM Hans-Joerg Wildhagen <carpediemsail@...> wrote:
Hi Bill 
Thank you for the quick response.
I have this document.
But I have set center before and it says done
See picture 
But the alignment will not work
He don’t let me do the physical Center a second time.
Any idea

Cheers Hans


CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> schrieb am Sa. 29. Jan. 2022 um 10:05:
You need this manual: Furuno navpilot700_711c_720_installation_manual.pdf

You'll mechanically set the rudder references and the rudder to the center position, then electronically set the pilot to center.
image.png


On Sat, Jan 29, 2022 at 8:44 AM Hans-Joerg Wildhagen <carpediemsail@...> wrote:
Good morning 

I have two reference units. One I did replace. But the alignment matches not with the rudderposition.
When the alignment is ok than it’s like on the picture with reference units
When the rudder is in the center than it looks like on picture with 711 autopilot
Hm….
See pictures

Any ideas?
Thank for your help.

Cheers Hans
Wasabi Amel 55 no 13


Re: Question how to do the alignment of the Furuno rudder reference unit fap-6112

Hans-Joerg Wildhagen
 

Hi Bill 
Thank you for the quick response.
I have this document.
But I have set center before and it says done
See picture 
But the alignment will not work
He don’t let me do the physical Center a second time.
Any idea

Cheers Hans


CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> schrieb am Sa. 29. Jan. 2022 um 10:05:

You need this manual: Furuno navpilot700_711c_720_installation_manual.pdf

You'll mechanically set the rudder references and the rudder to the center position, then electronically set the pilot to center.
image.png


On Sat, Jan 29, 2022 at 8:44 AM Hans-Joerg Wildhagen <carpediemsail@...> wrote:
Good morning 

I have two reference units. One I did replace. But the alignment matches not with the rudderposition.
When the alignment is ok than it’s like on the picture with reference units
When the rudder is in the center than it looks like on picture with 711 autopilot
Hm….
See pictures

Any ideas?
Thank for your help.

Cheers Hans
Wasabi Amel 55 no 13


Re: Question how to do the alignment of the Furuno rudder reference unit fap-6112

 

You need this manual: Furuno navpilot700_711c_720_installation_manual.pdf

You'll mechanically set the rudder references and the rudder to the center position, then electronically set the pilot to center.
image.png


CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   

On Sat, Jan 29, 2022 at 8:44 AM Hans-Joerg Wildhagen <carpediemsail@...> wrote:
Good morning 

I have two reference units. One I did replace. But the alignment matches not with the rudderposition.
When the alignment is ok than it’s like on the picture with reference units
When the rudder is in the center than it looks like on picture with 711 autopilot
Hm….
See pictures

Any ideas?
Thank for your help.

Cheers Hans
Wasabi Amel 55 no 13


Question how to do the alignment of the Furuno rudder reference unit fap-6112

Hans-Joerg Wildhagen
 

Good morning 

I have two reference units. One I did replace. But the alignment matches not with the rudderposition.
When the alignment is ok than it’s like on the picture with reference units
When the rudder is in the center than it looks like on picture with 711 autopilot
Hm….
See pictures

Any ideas?
Thank for your help.

Cheers Hans
Wasabi Amel 55 no 13

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