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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Lofrans Tigres Windlass rebuild question

Stephen Davis
 

Hi Tom,

I'm fairly certain I know what your problem is, as mine was doing the same thing until I rebuilt it last spring. 

First, you need to remove the rope drum from the windlass. This may be easier said than done if the windlass has not been apart in years. In my case, it required lots of penetrating oil, and the better part of a day to get it off. Ultimately, I used a mallet, large pry bars, and finally a gear puller to get it off the shaft. Once you have it off you will see a bronze gear (dog clutch) with pawls facing inward and engaging with the pawls on the emergency wheel which is what you engage the handle into. On the dog clutch, there are 2 springs which push the dog clutch out just enough on the back stroke to reposition for another stroke of pulling the chain up. In my case these springs were unable to do there job due to salt and corrosion, and after a good cleaning and lubrication, all worked as advertised. Another possibility is that the springs are worn out, and need to be replaced. 

Imtra is the distributor for Lofrans in the USA. They have a some very good techs, and are happy to talk to you. Also, most any parts you need are available. FYI...if you are heading south this fall, Lofrans parts are readily available in Martinique at about 60% of US prices. 

Good luck with the windlass project. 

Steve Davis
Aloha SM72
St Georges, Grenada

On Oct 2, 2016, at 16:00, peacock8491@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I have begun to disassemble the windlass and rebuild it, there is a small oil leak. 

The windlass manual function has never worked since purchasing the boat (used). I insert the handle, I can pull it back, but it does not ratchet forward. Any idea what the problem is, or what to look for as I take it apart?

Many thanks to Nikimat for the wonderful documentation of the process.

Thanks to all for your help. 

Tom Peacock

Aletes SM 240

Chesapeake Bay


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Lofrans Tigres Windlass rebuild question

Thomas Peacock
 

Just to clarify my problem:

If the anchor is in the water, I insert the handle in the hole on the drum; I pull the handle back as far as it will go; my understanding is by pushing the handle forward, it will ratchet to it's most forward position, allowing me to then pull the handle back, and raise the anchor further. However, the handle will not move forward.
Or am I doing it incorrectly?
Thanks,
Tom Peacock
Aletes, SM#240
Chesapeake Bay


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Advice on Singlehand for the SM or 40 footers

Colin - ex SV Island Pearl
 

On our SM53 I often sail single handed fairly easily in local waters. The only time I really need a 2nd person to help is when docking at our marina berth to have someone attach the lines whilst I am still at the controls. Over time however, with a little practice and patience for the right conditions becomes doable by using the tide and wind direction to help hold the boat alongside the wharf for those vital seconds when leaving the controls and getting a line or two attached when the wind or tide is fighting against you.

Recently I have met another new Amel owner who purchased a lovely Santorini ketch here in Brisbane recently and have had the pleasure of assisting him to become familiar with Amels' unique sailing aspects, plus will help him sail her to New Zealand in mid October.

Having now experienced both boats I must say that the Santorini is a really good option for a great cruising boat, and agree with Ian's comments as she is so much easier to dock when sailing alone, and has a really beautiful motion at sea in both light and strong winds. Of course it doesn't have some of the extra features which the length of the SM allows however I would absolutely have to now rate it as the best and safest 46ft boat I have ever sailed on, and I feel it is particularly great for someone who sails alone often being very much easier to get in and out of tight spaces plus having excellent pointing and light wind sailing ability plus most capable in a good blow in a rough sea.

Colin Streeter
Island Pearl II, Amel53 #332.
Brisbane, Australia

On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 7:23 PM, Ian Park parkianj@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Jimbo
The Santorin is the easiest boat to handle that I have ever sailed, there isnt anything I cant do single handed. The hard parts, like marinas is made easy with the super efficient bow thruster; anchoring because the boat is heavy and stays put while working on deck or by using the cockpit anchor controls.
We (Linda 66 and me 69) have sailed as a couple from Sardinia to Scotland to the Caribbean by ourselves.
I guess you will find the same from other Amel owners.

Good luck

Ian

Ocean Hobo SN96




--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Lofrans Tigres Windlass rebuild question

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning Tom,

Most welcome for the document !!! Glad someone use it !!!

Do you mean you can not “lower” the anchor using the ratchet?
I think it was only made to retrieve the anchor (as emergency) not to lower it.

More illustration coming, just haven’t had the time…

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico




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On Sun, 10/2/16, peacock8491@gmail.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Lofrans Tigres Windlass rebuild question
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, October 2, 2016, 3:00 PM


 









I have begun to disassemble the windlass and
rebuild it, there is a small oil leak. The windlass
manual function has never worked since purchasing the boat
(used). I insert the handle, I can pull it back, but it does
not ratchet forward. Any idea what the problem is, or what
to look for as I take it apart?Many thanks to Nikimat
for the wonderful documentation of the process.Thanks
to all for your help. Tom PeacockAletes SM
240Chesapeake Bay









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Re: SSB Antenna

Ian Park
 

I seem to remember Olivier saying the triatic was a weather fax antenna sat here than HF. Also I thought he said that the triatic was not actually needed.
I'm sure that statement will be corrected if my memory is wrong!

Ian

Ocean Hobo SN96


Re: Lofrans Tigres Windlass rebuild question

Ian Park
 

Mine only hauls chain on the backward pull, not the forward. Manual windlass especially usually haul in both directions.
Hope this is what you're looking at.

Ian

Ocean Hobo SN96


Re: Advice on Singlehand for the SM or 40 footers

Ian Park
 

Jimbo
The Santorin is the easiest boat to handle that I have ever sailed, there isnt anything I cant do single handed. The hard parts, like marinas is made easy with the super efficient bow thruster; anchoring because the boat is heavy and stays put while working on deck or by using the cockpit anchor controls.
We (Linda 66 and me 69) have sailed as a couple from Sardinia to Scotland to the Caribbean by ourselves.
I guess you will find the same from other Amel owners.

Good luck

Ian

Ocean Hobo SN96


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Dive Compressor

Alex Ramseyer <alexramseyer@...>
 

Hi David,
the boat is currently located in Florida and I'll be on it in the beginning of November. I have plans to be in the Caribbean for the winter and in the mediterranean next summer.
Alex, SY "NO STRESS"


On Sunday, October 2, 2016 4:12 PM, "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
Good morning Fred,

Glad I could help and that you are happy with your compressor!

I haven’t noticed and I actually fill up a bucket of water to keep the tank cooler.
After I use the compressor, I definitely keep the storage open for it to cool down.
I like the fan idea, will do that as well.

Sincerely, Alexandre

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On Sun, 10/2/16, scentstone@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Dive Compressor
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Sunday, October 2, 2016, 7:42 AM


 









Hi Thomas, Alexandre (and
others)
We have a Bauer
Junior II in 220V installed in La Rochelle, following
Alexandre drawings (thanks a lot Alexandre !!) and
electrical wiring was made by Fred from Nautic Elec.It
works great !One point that has to be reported is
ventilation : even when moving the compressor in the locker
using the sliders it's often not enough for the compressor's
engine if the
external temperature is quite high. Better to fill tanks in
the evening or to push fresh air using a fan… Does someone
share my experience about temperature
? ThksF.
ScentstoneSM2K #375













Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Advice on Singlehand for the SM or 40 footers

Eric Freedman
 

Jimbo,

I love to sail Kimberlite singlehanded. My longest trip so far was a 12 day passage from St Marten to Long Island, NY. The only issue was waking every 25-30 minutes to take a look around and then get back to sleep.

No amount of electronics can warn you of a very small boat, a whale , or something floating.

 

A few years ago we almost salvaged a boat named Scat where the skipper was so sick he had to be hauled off.

Things to worry about are getting sick or sailing in extreme weather.

For a few days it is no problem on an extended voyage it is perilous.

 

In any event if you are going to single hand a boat Amel is the boat to do it in.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2016 12:02 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Advice on Singlehand for the SM or 40 footers

 

 

Hi Jimbo,

 

I don’t usually singlehand, but… 

 

When things are working, I never have to wake my partner during my watch for anything while we are underway, which was not true for my old boat.  My partner commented one day when I had put up the downwind poles by myself without her help, saying she thought that was the one thing I needed her for!  We did rip a balloner sail one night that took our combined efforts to get back down on deck.  I probably could have handled that myself, but I was very glad I didn’t have to!  

 

The boat is well laid out, and not tiring to sail, even in rough conditions. That’s important when you’re alone.

 

On many boats, singlehanding is pretty straightforward when things work, and gets complicated/difficult/challenging when things go wrong.  So a good seamanlike preventative maintenance program is even more important that it it normally would be. An Amel is not a boat that you can ignore for very long and still expect her to treat you right.

 

For me, if I was buying a boat with the idea of singlehanding a lot, I would probably get something smaller, but that’s just me. Several forum members do a lot of successful singlehanded voyaging on Super Maramus.

 

Bill Kinney

SM #160, Harmonie

Annapolis, MD

“Ships and men rot in port."

 

 

 

 

On Oct 2, 2016, at 15:41, jandrkennedy@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 


Hi there all you fantastic Amel Owners - I hope to join you soon.

 

I am based in Auckland New Zealand and sailed for most of my life.

 

I have owned a number of yachts starting with a 25 footer, then a 29 and moving to a Chieftain 38.

 

I have pretty good coastal experience and done some a New Zealand North Island Circumnav and also sailed form  Auckland to Christchurch.

 

I am getting to my late 50’s and I am going cruising - My wife will come sometimes with me - but I need to be able to sail her alone also.

 

I have been looking around now for the last six months as to what to buy for my voyages.

 

 

With out a doubt I am sold on the Amel and the concept therein.

 

I am going to buy an Amel over the next 12 months in New Zealand or if I can not get what I need/want then I will look to Europe and the US and start my cruising from there a little later (need to tidy up my business before going offshore and extended cruising) 

 

I really love the Super Maramu from all I can read and see online -   - but would really appreciate some advice on how easy is it to sail alone.

 

 

 

Would also be grateful for any other comments on other Amel - like the Santorin or Maramu the 40 footers.

 

Thanks in advance for any advice

 

Jimbo 

 

 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Advice on Singlehand for the SM or 40 footers

Bill Kinney <greatketch@...>
 

Hi Jimbo,

I don’t usually singlehand, but… 

When things are working, I never have to wake my partner during my watch for anything while we are underway, which was not true for my old boat.  My partner commented one day when I had put up the downwind poles by myself without her help, saying she thought that was the one thing I needed her for!  We did rip a balloner sail one night that took our combined efforts to get back down on deck.  I probably could have handled that myself, but I was very glad I didn’t have to!  

The boat is well laid out, and not tiring to sail, even in rough conditions. That’s important when you’re alone.

On many boats, singlehanding is pretty straightforward when things work, and gets complicated/difficult/challenging when things go wrong.  So a good seamanlike preventative maintenance program is even more important that it it normally would be. An Amel is not a boat that you can ignore for very long and still expect her to treat you right.

For me, if I was buying a boat with the idea of singlehanding a lot, I would probably get something smaller, but that’s just me. Several forum members do a lot of successful singlehanded voyaging on Super Maramus.

Bill Kinney
SM #160, Harmonie
Annapolis, MD
“Ships and men rot in port."





On Oct 2, 2016, at 15:41, jandrkennedy@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


Hi there all you fantastic Amel Owners - I hope to join you soon.
 
I am based in Auckland New Zealand and sailed for most of my life.
 
I have owned a number of yachts starting with a 25 footer, then a 29 and moving to a Chieftain 38.
 
I have pretty good coastal experience and done some a New Zealand North Island Circumnav and also sailed form  Auckland to Christchurch.

I am getting to my late 50’s and I am going cruising - My wife will come sometimes with me - but I need to be able to sail her alone also.
 
I have been looking around now for the last six months as to what to buy for my voyages.


With out a doubt I am sold on the Amel and the concept therein.

I am going to buy an Amel over the next 12 months in New Zealand or if I can not get what I need/want then I will look to Europe and the US and start my cruising from there a little later (need to tidy up my business before going offshore and extended cruising) 

I really love the Super Maramu from all I can read and see online -   - but would really appreciate some advice on how easy is it to sail alone.



Would also be grateful for any other comments on other Amel - like the Santorin or Maramu the 40 footers.

Thanks in advance for any advice

Jimbo 





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Forestay service/replacement

Bill Kinney <greatketch@...>
 

Dave,

Craig on Sangaris posted a good description back in March on how to do this, you’ll find it back in the group archives.  It’s not a very complex job.  You can also learn some tricks on how to get it up and down if you go to youtube and look up the video from the series posted by S/V Delos on their rerig project in Thailand.

I am curious about what failed on your friend’s boat.  was it the swage?  the mast tang? clevis pin? wire? 

Bill Kinney
SM #160, Harmonie
Annapolis, MD
“Ships and men rot in port."





On Oct 2, 2016, at 20:15, drdavegoodman@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


Looking for information on servicing or replacing the forestay on a 1998 Amel SM as part of an overall rigging overhaul.

Recently heard from a friend who experienced failure of the forestay connection near the top of the mast.

Thanks




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Forestay service/replacement

Mark Erdos
 

It would help a lot if you told us your location.

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Super Maramu 2000

Hull #275

www.creampuff.us

Currently cruising:  Tampa Bay for hurricane season

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2016 8:15 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Forestay service/replacement

 

 

Looking for information on servicing or replacing the forestay on a 1998 Amel SM as part of an overall rigging overhaul.

Recently heard from a friend who experienced failure of the forestay connection near the top of the mast.

Thanks


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Leak detector of mass circuit

Hajé Weisfelt
 

Which I would Love to have as well.

Thx, Hajé, Charmed II (Sharki 104)


Forestay service/replacement

drdavegoodman
 

Looking for information on servicing or replacing the forestay on a 1998 Amel SM as part of an overall rigging overhaul.

Recently heard from a friend who experienced failure of the forestay connection near the top of the mast.

Thanks


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Advice on Singlehand for the SM or 40 footers

jandrkennedy@...
 

Yahoo Kent - thanks for that and also the Crew Website - 

Really appreciate you taking the time to write.

Will ask questions as I get on board and start looking at SM's

Jimbo


Re: Advice on Singlehand for the SM or 40 footers

jandrkennedy@...
 

Alan,
thanks for the quick reply - I thought so - that all the lines and it seems almost every control in a hands reach from the cockpit.

If you need any help or otherwise when you get to Gulf Harbour let me know.

Cheers again


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Advice on Singlehand for the SM or 40 footers

karkauai
 

Hi Jimbo,
You are on the right track!  I've owned Kristy, 1999 SM for 8 years.  I'm sailing her single handed quite a bit, and it's a breeze.  Anchoring is a piece of cake, and with the bow thruster even docking is doable if there's not too much wind.  I can rig the poles alone, and do downhill runs wing on wing rather than the double headsail rig.  I think I could hoist the ballooner by myself, but am not comfortable dousing it alone yet.

I've always been able to find crew for longer passages through a US based website called Offshore Passage Opportunities (www.sailopo.com). I'm sure there's something similar in NZ.  There's no shortage of sailors who want the experience of an offshore passage, and most of the time are happy to pay their transportation costs and share in the cost of provisioning.  I've learned a few things to ask before committing to a long voyage with someone you don't gave any experience with.  If you get that far, holler and I'll share some thoughts.

Good luck on your hunting.  There are a lot of well cared for Amels out there.  If you find one that you're interested in, there are a lot of more knowledgeable owners on this forum than I who can give you good advice on what to look for.

Steady as she goes,
Kent
Currently Curacao

Kent Robertson
828-234-6819 voice/text

On Oct 2, 2016, at 3:41 PM, jandrkennedy@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 


Hi there all you fantastic Amel Owners - I hope to join you soon.
 
I am based in Auckland New Zealand and sailed for most of my life.
 
I have owned a number of yachts starting with a 25 footer, then a 29 and moving to a Chieftain 38.
 
I have pretty good coastal experience and done some a New Zealand North Island Circumnav and also sailed form  Auckland to Christchurch.

I am getting to my late 50’s and I am going cruising - My wife will come sometimes with me - but I need to be able to sail her alone also.
 
I have been looking around now for the last six months as to what to buy for my voyages.

With out a doubt I am sold on the Amel and the concept therein.

I am going to buy an Amel over the next 12 months in New Zealand or if I can not get what I need/want then I will look to Europe and the US and start my cruising from there a little later (need to tidy up my business before going offshore and extended cruising) 

I really love the Super Maramu from all I can read and see online -   - but would really appreciate some advice on how easy is it to sail alone.



Would also be grateful for any other comments on other Amel - like the Santorin or Maramu the 40 footers.

Thanks in advance for any advice

Jimbo 



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Lofrans Tigres Windlass rebuild question

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Tom,

I am not sure what will stop a Lofrans Tigres from ratcheting forward, but will tell you that the most common issue I have seen for leaking is overfilling. Is it possible you have an oil level higher than the sight glass?

Bill Rouse
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On Oct 2, 2016 3:00 PM, "peacock8491@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I have begun to disassemble the windlass and rebuild it, there is a small oil leak. 

The windlass manual function has never worked since purchasing the boat (used). I insert the handle, I can pull it back, but it does not ratchet forward. Any idea what the problem is, or what to look for as I take it apart?

Many thanks to Nikimat for the wonderful documentation of the process.

Thanks to all for your help. 

Tom Peacock

Aletes SM 240

Chesapeake Bay


Lofrans Tigres Windlass rebuild question

Thomas Peacock
 

I have begun to disassemble the windlass and rebuild it, there is a small oil leak. 

The windlass manual function has never worked since purchasing the boat (used). I insert the handle, I can pull it back, but it does not ratchet forward. Any idea what the problem is, or what to look for as I take it apart?

Many thanks to Nikimat for the wonderful documentation of the process.

Thanks to all for your help. 

Tom Peacock

Aletes SM 240

Chesapeake Bay


Re: Advice on Singlehand for the SM or 40 footers

Alan Leslie
 

Hello Jimbo,

I have an Amel Super Maramu 2000 and I frequently sail solo....In 2013 I sailed Elyse by myself around Vanuatu and then from Vanuatu to New Caledonia ...staying awake is my only issue.
This boat is much easier to sail alone than my previous IOR boat which was all manual.
We are in Noumea right now heading for NZ in the next few weeks. Intend to lay up in Gulf Harbour for the cyclone season.

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437