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Advice on Singlehand for the SM or 40 footers

jandrkennedy@...
 


Hi there all you fantastic Amel Owners - I hope to join you soon.
 
I am based in Auckland New Zealand and sailed for most of my life.
 
I have owned a number of yachts starting with a 25 footer, then a 29 and moving to a Chieftain 38.
 
I have pretty good coastal experience and done some a New Zealand North Island Circumnav and also sailed form  Auckland to Christchurch.

I am getting to my late 50’s and I am going cruising - My wife will come sometimes with me - but I need to be able to sail her alone also.
 
I have been looking around now for the last six months as to what to buy for my voyages.

With out a doubt I am sold on the Amel and the concept therein.

I am going to buy an Amel over the next 12 months in New Zealand or if I can not get what I need/want then I will look to Europe and the US and start my cruising from there a little later (need to tidy up my business before going offshore and extended cruising) 

I really love the Super Maramu from all I can read and see online -   - but would really appreciate some advice on how easy is it to sail alone.



Would also be grateful for any other comments on other Amel - like the Santorin or Maramu the 40 footers.

Thanks in advance for any advice

Jimbo 



Re: Leak detector of mass circuit

Herbert Lackner
 

 

Thanks Alan,

 

Fair winds, herbert

SN120, KALI MERA

 


Re: SSB Antenna

Herbert Lackner
 

As far as I know standard on the Santorin was only the isolator an the triatic for the HF receiver.  When we ordered the new rigging from ACMO they offered us to put the isolator on the mizzen backstay instead of the triatic.  In think there is no need anymore for the Triatic isolator?  Our SSB works fine using the backstay as an antenna (Kenwood 480HX, MFJ 993 BRT).

 

Herbert, KALI MERA, SN120

 

 

 

 

 


Re: AC earth on SM and SN

Herbert Lackner
 

Trevor,

 

Will upload pictures when back at the boat in november.

 

We have the standard Amel Battery Monitor for all systems, then one special for the genset, for each of the three solar panels a dedicated MPP regulator, each with a solar computer – display. As the Volvo is not running at the same time as the shaft-alternator I do always know how many Amperes are delivered by each single power source and what gets loaded into the battery “grand total”.  Total consumption in Ahs from the batteries is monitored between charging cycles using the genset.

 

Fair winds, herbert lackner

SN120 KALI MERA, Trinidad

 

 

 


Autopilot breaker tripped...

svperegrinus@yahoo.com
 

Hello all, the breaker on the 24V panel that feeds the Raymarine factory autopilot computer tripped today.  When I went to re-set it, I pressed the green breaker button and it wouldn't stay depressed.  So I gave up.


A couple of hours later, once we anchored off, I tried again and it all worked as usual.  The Raymarine pilot moves the rudder, etc.   


Now, we were not using this Raymarine autopilot when this happened, nor did we use it today at all.  


We have a second/independent B&G autopilot and we were using the B&G when this happened.  The Raymarine was on simply because we routinely have it on, even when we don't use it (we used the Raymarine yesterday, for example).


Weak breaker?  Some capacitor on the Raymarine T-300 about to die?  Was it a mistake to have the Raymarine "on" for many hundreds of hours, without using it, so we shortened its life?


Thanks in advance,


Peregrinus

SM2K No. 350 (2002)

At anchor, Panarea (Aeolian Islands)


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Dive Compressor

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning Fred,

Glad I could help and that you are happy with your compressor!

I haven’t noticed and I actually fill up a bucket of water to keep the tank cooler.
After I use the compressor, I definitely keep the storage open for it to cool down.
I like the fan idea, will do that as well.

Sincerely, Alexandre




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On Sun, 10/2/16, scentstone@gmail.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Dive Compressor
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, October 2, 2016, 7:42 AM


 









Hi Thomas, Alexandre (and
others)
We have a Bauer
Junior II in 220V installed in La Rochelle, following
Alexandre drawings (thanks a lot Alexandre !!) and
electrical wiring was made by Fred from Nautic Elec.It
works great !One point that has to be reported is
ventilation : even when moving the compressor in the locker
using the sliders it's often not enough for the compressor's
engine if the
external temperature is quite high. Better to fill tanks in
the evening or to push fresh air using a fan… Does someone
share my experience about temperature
? ThksF.
ScentstoneSM2K #375


Re: Dive Compressor

scentstone
 

Hi Thomas, Alexandre (and others)

We have a Bauer Junior II in 220V installed in La Rochelle, following Alexandre drawings (thanks a lot Alexandre !!) and electrical wiring was made by Fred from Nautic Elec.
It works great !
One point that has to be reported is ventilation : even when moving the compressor in the locker using the sliders it's often not enough for the compressor's engine if the external temperature is quite high. Better to fill tanks in the evening or to push fresh air using a fan… Does someone share my experience about temperature ?
 
Thks
F.

Scentstone
SM2K #375


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Tank Overflow

amelforme
 

Kent, you don't have to grow up if you don't want to. I'm proof.

Joel 
THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY
954-812-2485

On Oct 1, 2016, at 7:12 PM, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Thanks Joel.  I'll look under the galley fridge, but have never been able to get to the forward tank.  There are some good pics and directions in this forum, but the forward mid-ships corner of the freezer enclosure just will not budge.  What am I missing?

Well, pardner, where the deer and the antelope play, a saloon is where a thirsty cowpoke gets a bottle and a shot glass and washes the trail dust down....
Come to think of it, maybe it is a saloon.
I'd heard both, but being a French boat and "salon" being a French word defined as a "living room" or "gathering place" or "sitting room", I assumed that us Yanks had bastardized the term.

Here's what the Boaters Encyclopedia says:
"Many boaters seem to find the word cabin rather lacking the elegance and significance they associate with their boats. Therefore, they refer to their cabin as a salon, a fancy French term for reception hall or a room filled with perfumed finery.Hairdressers, beauticians, and couturiers have salons; sailors have a saloonThe Encyclopedia of Nautical Knowledge defines a  saloon this way: “In a cargo and smaller passenger vessels, the main  cabin, or that serving as a dining-room, assembly room, etc.” The Oxford Concise Dictionary describes a saloon as a “public room for first-class or for all passengers on ship.”The only dissonant note is sounded by Webster’s New World Dictionary, which allows the use of both salonand saloon but then confesses that saloon is “specifically, the main social cabin of a passenger ship.” Nevertheless, whereas most sailors use the word saloon, most powerboaters seem to prefer salon.It’s possible that some boaters use the word salon because they don’t want their boats to be associated with saloons where strong alcoholic drinks are served and rough men indulge in fisticuffs. But a better choice than either salon or saloon would be cabin. What could be simpler or more correct?"

I stand corrected...guess I'm not that cultured and classy after all.  But I am wiser than I was 30 min ago.  Do you suppose I'll ever grow up?

Kent, aka Rusty, aka Patch
SM 243
Kristy
Currently Curacao

On Oct 1, 2016, at 5:24 PM, 'Joel Potter' jfpottercys@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello Kent. Probably one of the tank top access ports needs tightening or the gaskets replaced if you are certain it is not coming in through the top of the water level indicator receiver tube. Kent you are way too cultured and classy to call your saloon a salon.

 

 

Joel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist LLC

THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

954 462 5869 office

954 812 2485 cell

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 4:41 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Tank Overflow

 

 

Hi all,
The last two times I've filled my fresh water tanks, just sitting at the dock, I've gotten water in the salon bilge. I didn't fill over 925 L the last time. There's no apparent water coming out of the port at the top of the center tank. Does anyone know where this is escaping from the tanks?
Thanks in advance.
Kent
SM243
Kristy
Currently Curacao


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dive Compressor

SV Perigee
 

Hi Alex,

Were are you - we may be in the market for one shortly.

B.regards,

David




On Wednesday, 28 September 2016, 10:31, "Alex Ramseyer alexramseyer@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
Hi Jean-Pierre,
the reason why I was asking is that the boat I bought has two installed. If someone needs a compresoor, I could make a good offering.
Alex Ramseyer
SY NO STRESS, AMEL54, n15,
alexramseyer@...


On Tuesday, September 27, 2016 12:28 PM, "Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
Hello Alex,

The most common dive compressor is the Bauer Junior.  However, Robin from SM Gros Doux installed a less expensive German (IIRC) unit which is smaller and ighter.

Look up his blog under “Gros Doux”.  He also answers his emails promptly.  His solution may interest you.

Fair winds,

Jean-Pierre Germain
SY Eleuthera SM007


On 27 Sep 2016, at 09:35, Alex Ramseyer alexramseyer@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Thomas,
have you decided for a dive compressor in the meantime?
Kind Regards, Alex
AMEL54 no 15, "NO STRESS"



Jean-Pierre Germain,
+44 7551 211 511
jp.germain@...






Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Tank Overflow

karkauai
 

I looked there, Bill.  No evidence of water coming out there.  Thing is, I've always filled it to just below 1000L with no oroblems until now.  At 1000L on the gauge, there was still a couple of inches of air at the top of the middle tank.
The float still moves freely, but I wonder if it's lost bouyancy somehow?
Most likely suspect is, as Joel (my hero and mentor) suggested, one of the inspection hatches.  I'll investigate further tomorrow.
Kent
SM 243
Kristy

Kent Robertson
828-234-6819 voice/text

On Oct 1, 2016, at 5:35 PM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Kent,

I suspect the top of the floating gauge. I have had water bubble out of there when I accidently overfill. On BeBe, 387, it will accumlate in the bilge below the companionway steps.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Tank Overflow

karkauai
 

Thanks Joel.  I'll look under the galley fridge, but have never been able to get to the forward tank.  There are some good pics and directions in this forum, but the forward mid-ships corner of the freezer enclosure just will not budge.  What am I missing?

Well, pardner, where the deer and the antelope play, a saloon is where a thirsty cowpoke gets a bottle and a shot glass and washes the trail dust down....
Come to think of it, maybe it is a saloon.
I'd heard both, but being a French boat and "salon" being a French word defined as a "living room" or "gathering place" or "sitting room", I assumed that us Yanks had bastardized the term.

Here's what the Boaters Encyclopedia says:
"Many boaters seem to find the word cabin rather lacking the elegance and significance they associate with their boats. Therefore, they refer to their cabin as a salon, a fancy French term for reception hall or a room filled with perfumed finery.Hairdressers, beauticians, and couturiers have salons; sailors have a saloonThe Encyclopedia of Nautical Knowledge defines a  saloon this way: “In a cargo and smaller passenger vessels, the main  cabin, or that serving as a dining-room, assembly room, etc.” The Oxford Concise Dictionary describes a saloon as a “public room for first-class or for all passengers on ship.”The only dissonant note is sounded by Webster’s New World Dictionary, which allows the use of both salonand saloon but then confesses that saloon is “specifically, the main social cabin of a passenger ship.” Nevertheless, whereas most sailors use the word saloon, most powerboaters seem to prefer salon.It’s possible that some boaters use the word salon because they don’t want their boats to be associated with saloons where strong alcoholic drinks are served and rough men indulge in fisticuffs. But a better choice than either salon or saloon would be cabin. What could be simpler or more correct?"

I stand corrected...guess I'm not that cultured and classy after all.  But I am wiser than I was 30 min ago.  Do you suppose I'll ever grow up?

Kent, aka Rusty, aka Patch
SM 243
Kristy
Currently Curacao

On Oct 1, 2016, at 5:24 PM, 'Joel Potter' jfpottercys@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello Kent. Probably one of the tank top access ports needs tightening or the gaskets replaced if you are certain it is not coming in through the top of the water level indicator receiver tube. Kent you are way too cultured and classy to call your saloon a salon.

 

 

Joel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist LLC

THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

954 462 5869 office

954 812 2485 cell

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 4:41 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Tank Overflow

 

 

Hi all,
The last two times I've filled my fresh water tanks, just sitting at the dock, I've gotten water in the salon bilge. I didn't fill over 925 L the last time. There's no apparent water coming out of the port at the top of the center tank. Does anyone know where this is escaping from the tanks?
Thanks in advance.
Kent
SM243
Kristy
Currently Curacao


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Tank Overflow

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

Kent,
Same thing happened to me as Bill described.  I overfilled tank and it ended up below companionway steps

Ben Driver
La Bella Vita
SM #347

On Oct 1, 2016, at 5:35 PM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Kent,

I suspect the top of the floating gauge. I have had water bubble out of there when I accidently overfill. On BeBe, 387, it will accumlate in the bilge below the companionway steps.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail


On Oct 1, 2016 3:41 PM, "karkauai@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi all,
The last two times I've filled my fresh water tanks, just sitting at the dock, I've gotten water in the salon bilge. I didn't fill over 925 L the last time. There's no apparent water coming out of the port at the top of the center tank. Does anyone know where this is escaping from the tanks?
Thanks in advance.
Kent
SM243
Kristy
Currently Curacao


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Tank Overflow

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Kent,

I suspect the top of the floating gauge. I have had water bubble out of there when I accidently overfill. On BeBe, 387, it will accumlate in the bilge below the companionway steps.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail


On Oct 1, 2016 3:41 PM, "karkauai@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi all,
The last two times I've filled my fresh water tanks, just sitting at the dock, I've gotten water in the salon bilge. I didn't fill over 925 L the last time. There's no apparent water coming out of the port at the top of the center tank. Does anyone know where this is escaping from the tanks?
Thanks in advance.
Kent
SM243
Kristy
Currently Curacao


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Tank Overflow

amelforme
 

Hello Kent. Probably one of the tank top access ports needs tightening or the gaskets replaced if you are certain it is not coming in through the top of the water level indicator receiver tube. Kent you are way too cultured and classy to call your saloon a salon.

 

 

Joel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist LLC

THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

954 462 5869 office

954 812 2485 cell

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2016 4:41 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Tank Overflow

 

 

Hi all,
The last two times I've filled my fresh water tanks, just sitting at the dock, I've gotten water in the salon bilge. I didn't fill over 925 L the last time. There's no apparent water coming out of the port at the top of the center tank. Does anyone know where this is escaping from the tanks?
Thanks in advance.
Kent
SM243
Kristy
Currently Curacao


Water Tank Overflow

karkauai
 

Hi all,
The last two times I've filled my fresh water tanks, just sitting at the dock, I've gotten water in the salon bilge. I didn't fill over 925 L the last time. There's no apparent water coming out of the port at the top of the center tank. Does anyone know where this is escaping from the tanks?
Thanks in advance.
Kent
SM243
Kristy
Currently Curacao


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Antal genoa car

Mark Pitt
 

Hi Mike,

Mauri Pro Sailing in the US carries the full range of Antal equipment and parts. If it is not on their web site, then email them.

Mark Pitt, Sabbatical III, ASM #419, currently in Alghero, Sardinia


On 10/1/2016 3:26 AM, 'Mike Ondra' mdondra@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

Does anyone have a source for replacement genoa car for SM2000? Or parts? Antal 40x8. Made in Italy. Cannot find our configuration with beckets/bales both fore and aft on the car.

Mike Ondra

Aletes SM#240

Rock Hall, MD



Antal genoa car

Mike Ondra
 

Does anyone have a source for replacement genoa car for SM2000? Or parts?  Antal 40x8. Made in Italy. Cannot find our configuration with beckets/bales both fore and aft on the car.

Mike Ondra

Aletes SM#240

Rock Hall, MD


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Locker Lids SM

James Alton
 

Alan,

   One really great thing about fiberglass is that with the proper technique and material, it is possible to restore the strength lost when damaged.  The basics are to remove all of the fractured glass using a grinder.  You don't have to make a big mess on a project like this since there are tools such as the roloc discs that can be chucked into a variable speed drill and operated at a fairly slow speed using 24-36 grit so that a good wet dry vacuum (use a bag rather than just a filter) will pick up 99% of the dust.  Next you need to measure the thickness of the laminate and multiply that dimension by at least 8 and preferably ten to layout your scarfs.  The scarf greatly increases the bonding surface and evens out the load.  It is the same principle as scarfing wood.  The scarf needs to be cut down to a feather edge to restore as much strength as possible.  I believe that in your case that you can add an inside patch over the fracture which would give you a solid Base to hold your feather edges and strengthen the repair as well.  I like to use a vinyl ester resin instead of polyester since the bond is better as are the physicals.   You can also use a good epoxy which bonds great but may not be as hard or as temperature stable unless you use an elevated cure epoxy.  I don't yet know what the layup of that part of an Amel is but generally you try to replace the same fiber orientation and fabric that was used when possible.  The repair once cured needs to be restored to the correct shape per original except you need to make it just a small amount lower to provide room for your gel coat.  Colour matching gel coat and deck patterns can perhaps be the hardest part.  The gel coat is important to protect the resin (especially epoxies) from UK so coat it with something.  

Best,
James Alton
SV Sueno, Maramu 46
Sardinia, Italy



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From: "divanz620@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: 9/30/16 08:24 (GMT+01:00)
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Locker Lids SM

 

A couple of our locker lids....one at the bow, have cracks in the fibreglass, and now bend, where the knob screws down on the lip...

Anyone have a good way of repairing this ?

Cheers

Alan

Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Cable in the mizzen mast

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Paul,

Many sailboats are made without the tube (hose or conduit). I assume that Amel's purpose of the hose is to increase the life of the in-mast wiring. As example, a 35 year-old Maramu had its VHF antenna wire recently replaced for the first time. I have a friend with a Catalina 48 who replaced all of the main mast wiring when it was 8 years old.

On BeBe, 387, the tube (hose) is very visible inside the inspection plate. There is a separation or opening at the first spreader where the radar wire normally connects. There are also several strings placed in the tube by Amel. One string goes to the opening at the first spreader and the other two to the top of the mast. These strings are used to pull new wire. The strings have a piece of plastic tied to the string about every two meters. This makes pulling the string a little difficult, but keeps the strings and wires from wrapping around each other.

Possibly, most Amels are made this way.

Best, 

Bill
BeBe 387

On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Ian Park parkianj@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Paul
I guess that is why mine is banging inside the mast.It must have come detached and dropped into view!
Hopefully someone may have more knowledge of its installation.
Best wishes

Ian
Ocean Hobo SN96



Re: Cable in the mizzen mast

Ian Park
 

Paul
I guess that is why mine is banging inside the mast.It must have come detached and dropped into view!
Hopefully someone may have more knowledge of its installation.
Best wishes

Ian
Ocean Hobo SN96