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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Alex aboard Nikimat

Craig Briggs
 

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Alex,
Thanks for the update. Judy and I are praying for you and the honest people of St Martin. 
Bill Rouse
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Some might pray for the dishonest and desperate ones, too. 
Best to all.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Alex aboard Nikimat

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Alex,

Thanks for the update. Judy and I are praying for you and the honest people of St Martin. 


CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus
Amel School www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550
+1(832) 380-4970

   

On Sep 9, 2017 12:49, "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thanks Bill for posting my Facebook post on the Forum.

The Hotel generator is only working a few hours a day - they are running out of diesel…
Plus their internet is no longer working, so I was lucky to get the internet from a near by hotel with my booster.
I don’t know how much longer I will have access so I have to prioritize replies.

here is what I previously posted on FB.

Dear Friends,

Last Thursday, looking at the European models (ECMWF) for Hurricane Irma on Windy.com I cried.
I knew it was coming on Sint Maarten as a Category 4 and there is little chance a boat can survive that.

The American model (GFS) were showing Irma going north, but Levi on https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/ mention that the European models were anticipating a stronger Bermuda High keeping the hurricane low - video of Thursday 31 https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/blog/2017/08/

Thursday and Friday I inquire about hotel suites for the week or the month, removed the sails (as insurance requires), put 19 dock lines and 2 chains with 4 more lines to add across the marina 24 hour prior.
All my neighbors thought I was crazy, some call me Spider Man.

I gave myself 24 hours to decide.
As hours went by the European model stay consistant, while the american models slowly started to show Irma more south.
So I booked a suite for 1 week, with option to extend for several month, then posted that I won’t be able to reply any message as I will be vey busy emptying the boat.

Again, my neighbors thought I was crazy (good thing - as I used all day long 1 of the only 2 marina carts).
Sunday and Monday I work non stop from 4.30 (am) until 11.00 (pm) only eating Ricola and drinking coconut water, no time to cook.
I did not even watch the weather, would have been a waste of time, any minute was precious.
Adrenaline kept me running and but couldn’t sleep more than 2 hours, turning and turning and thinking, so I just got up to work.

Today (Tuesday) was my last chance so I started at 3.30.
By 9.30 I had moved 90% of the boat… all my cloth, towels, toiletry, scuba equipment (tanks, BCD, regulators), TV, DVD, food, all the wine, Cachaca, rum, Champagne, etc., most tools, ALL my spare parts (about $70.000 worth new - oil and fuel filter for engine and genset, belt, bow thruster parts, C-Drive parts, air conditioning part, nav light, etc.), 3 of the sail (Genoa, Main and Mizzen) and some of their blocks, main and mizzen preventers, boat cousin, 1 canvas, etc.
In order to save time, I just took the drawers out, anything I could think which I care for or be sold later, I even took out the LED light I put on some of the fixture!
My spare Spade anchor (could not be used, since I already used 2 chains).

Final check to lock the hatches, secure the 2 watertight door, close the valves and kiss my boat.
By then, my neighbors told me it was a Category 5.
Everybody is panicking now trying to empty their boats.

As I was waiting for the marina employee, I even removed the 2 sets of blue, red and yellow lines used with the whisker poles!
With some complications (apparently Marina employees do not work when it is raining…) so thanks to Byron a neighbor - I finally had the last 3 lines across the marina (also thanks to the previous owner as onboard had 2 lines of 100 meter / 330 ft on 2 rolls) they were just long enough to loop the cleats across the marina plus I had a 200 ft 7/8 anchor line I bought last year in San Juan.
Regardless of all the lines (really put for insurance reason) marina employees and myself agree no boat will survive.

No more water at the marina nor hotel, electricity is still on, we have a curfew at 5.00 pm, I saw the military people patrolling.
I bought enough water for 6 weeks.
I am exhausted, feel so beat up I can barely stand up.
I remember during Hurricane Ike in 2008, I couldn’t sleep until the Eye came, this time I think I will sleep through anything.
The Suites have Double Hurricane windows, hope they will hold.
Tomorrow morning 8.00 will be when the eye will pass by.
I suspect communication (internet, phone, etc.) will be down for some time.

In the 5 years I have own NIKIMAT, countless memories.

Wednesday 6 of September 06.30.
I am through the eye now.
It was absolutely terrifying.
Not enough time to give you all the details as it will start again soon.
The wind was absolutely terrifying. I thought the door was going to explode.
I did not know which room was the safest. 
My ears were popping from the wind and low pressure, was like going down an elevator. I took pictures of the barometer, it is stuck on the low. 
2 of the hurricane proof glassed broke, thankfully there is a 2nd layer of glass. 
The rain was so strong it poor around the windows. 
There is about 5 cm or 2 inches of water in the bedroom (lost a few things there).
There is 3 cm or 1 inch of bedroom in the bathroom, which allow me to fill up the restroom and use the toilet. 
There is about 1 cm or 1/2 inch of water in the living room. 
The water has pilled up on the balcony there is about 20 cm / 8 inches. 
I was in the kitchen corner and smell like something burning. 
It was the air conditioning starting to get on fire and had to walk in 2 inch of water to unplug it. 
I was shacking writing things as they happen. 
The hotel employees are so great, they came check on everybody. 
Wind is picking up again got to go.

After 1 hour of calm, the eye has gone through and the wind picked up from another direction, hitting the door, I am afraid it will break so put all the Pelican cases, tool box, sewing machine, rope drum in front of it to add strength.
Now assessing the situation:
The bedroom still has 5 cm / 2 inches of water: step down converter partially under water, shoes and bag of champagne saber wet, the rest is in plastic boxes of waterproof bags, so minimal loss considering the situation.
From what I remember from Ike in 2008, I think lots of rain show come next.
So preparing for the next steps.
I have 20 cm / 8 inch of water on the balcony behind the hurricane window. Just in case I raise my keyboard, spare fresh water pump, etc.
It is hot and dump.
Thankfully the generator is still working and I use a fan to cool down (not going to risk another fire using the air conditioning) and also charging camera, computer and phone batteries.
The rain has not filled up the hotel cistern, somehow I don’t think it will, and water will become a huge issue for hygiene.
Not just for cooking and shower, but mostly for the toilet.
So I transferred some of my stuff into the closets, etc. and fill up 8 large buckets with the water from the bathroom floor.
This will allow me to flush the restroom once a day for several weeks.
My ears are popping again as the pressure is going back up.
Drinking/cooking water will become an issue as I will need to use some for basic hygiene as well - just use 150 cc for basic cleaning, mostly hand and feet.

— then was the message Bill posted —

Then today

The situation has terribly degraded.
People are stealing anything. I took pictures of 20 to 25 people breaking in Blue Point electronic to steal anything they could. They saw me taking pictures I feared for my life and biked away.
I saw hundred of people robbing the grocery store Carrefour.
Many people have become ruthless and savages.
Bobby’s Boatyard did well, most boats safe.
Port de Plaisance marina is devastated, catamaran flipped over, monohull sink.
The hotel 50kw generator is running low on diesel, I went with an employee to NIKIMAT and dove to open the lazaret, 4 out of my 5 Jerry Cans floated (I assume the diesel is good), couldn’t find the 5th one, probably puncture.
The hotel sewer tanks are almost full and about to overflow in the street.
I bought the last water bottles at the grocery store next to my hotel, I am good for several weeks.
Rarely I get internet connection
Army and police are doing their best, but they are very nervous and not enough of them, people still walk at night to try to rob buildings.
This has become a 3rd World Country.
I am more afraid of the people than the Hurricane.

Sincerely, Alexandre


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Alex aboard Nikimat

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Thanks Bill for posting my Facebook post on the Forum.

The Hotel generator is only working a few hours a day - they are running out of diesel…
Plus their internet is no longer working, so I was lucky to get the internet from a near by hotel with my booster.
I don’t know how much longer I will have access so I have to prioritize replies.

here is what I previously posted on FB.

Dear Friends,

Last Thursday, looking at the European models (ECMWF) for Hurricane Irma on Windy.com I cried.
I knew it was coming on Sint Maarten as a Category 4 and there is little chance a boat can survive that.

The American model (GFS) were showing Irma going north, but Levi on https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/ mention that the European models were anticipating a stronger Bermuda High keeping the hurricane low - video of Thursday 31 https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/blog/2017/08/

Thursday and Friday I inquire about hotel suites for the week or the month, removed the sails (as insurance requires), put 19 dock lines and 2 chains with 4 more lines to add across the marina 24 hour prior.
All my neighbors thought I was crazy, some call me Spider Man.

I gave myself 24 hours to decide.
As hours went by the European model stay consistant, while the american models slowly started to show Irma more south.
So I booked a suite for 1 week, with option to extend for several month, then posted that I won’t be able to reply any message as I will be vey busy emptying the boat.

Again, my neighbors thought I was crazy (good thing - as I used all day long 1 of the only 2 marina carts).
Sunday and Monday I work non stop from 4.30 (am) until 11.00 (pm) only eating Ricola and drinking coconut water, no time to cook.
I did not even watch the weather, would have been a waste of time, any minute was precious.
Adrenaline kept me running and but couldn’t sleep more than 2 hours, turning and turning and thinking, so I just got up to work.

Today (Tuesday) was my last chance so I started at 3.30.
By 9.30 I had moved 90% of the boat… all my cloth, towels, toiletry, scuba equipment (tanks, BCD, regulators), TV, DVD, food, all the wine, Cachaca, rum, Champagne, etc., most tools, ALL my spare parts (about $70.000 worth new - oil and fuel filter for engine and genset, belt, bow thruster parts, C-Drive parts, air conditioning part, nav light, etc.), 3 of the sail (Genoa, Main and Mizzen) and some of their blocks, main and mizzen preventers, boat cousin, 1 canvas, etc.
In order to save time, I just took the drawers out, anything I could think which I care for or be sold later, I even took out the LED light I put on some of the fixture!
My spare Spade anchor (could not be used, since I already used 2 chains).

Final check to lock the hatches, secure the 2 watertight door, close the valves and kiss my boat.
By then, my neighbors told me it was a Category 5.
Everybody is panicking now trying to empty their boats.


As I was waiting for the marina employee, I even removed the 2 sets of blue, red and yellow lines used with the whisker poles!
With some complications (apparently Marina employees do not work when it is raining…) so thanks to Byron a neighbor - I finally had the last 3 lines across the marina (also thanks to the previous owner as onboard had 2 lines of 100 meter / 330 ft on 2 rolls) they were just long enough to loop the cleats across the marina plus I had a 200 ft 7/8 anchor line I bought last year in San Juan.
Regardless of all the lines (really put for insurance reason) marina employees and myself agree no boat will survive.

No more water at the marina nor hotel, electricity is still on, we have a curfew at 5.00 pm, I saw the military people patrolling.
I bought enough water for 6 weeks.
I am exhausted, feel so beat up I can barely stand up.
I remember during Hurricane Ike in 2008, I couldn’t sleep until the Eye came, this time I think I will sleep through anything.
The Suites have Double Hurricane windows, hope they will hold.
Tomorrow morning 8.00 will be when the eye will pass by.
I suspect communication (internet, phone, etc.) will be down for some time.

In the 5 years I have own NIKIMAT, countless memories.

Wednesday 6 of September 06.30.
I am through the eye now.
It was absolutely terrifying.
Not enough time to give you all the details as it will start again soon.
The wind was absolutely terrifying. I thought the door was going to explode.
I did not know which room was the safest. 
My ears were popping from the wind and low pressure, was like going down an elevator. I took pictures of the barometer, it is stuck on the low. 
2 of the hurricane proof glassed broke, thankfully there is a 2nd layer of glass. 
The rain was so strong it poor around the windows. 
There is about 5 cm or 2 inches of water in the bedroom (lost a few things there).
There is 3 cm or 1 inch of bedroom in the bathroom, which allow me to fill up the restroom and use the toilet. 
There is about 1 cm or 1/2 inch of water in the living room. 
The water has pilled up on the balcony there is about 20 cm / 8 inches. 
I was in the kitchen corner and smell like something burning. 
It was the air conditioning starting to get on fire and had to walk in 2 inch of water to unplug it. 
I was shacking writing things as they happen. 
The hotel employees are so great, they came check on everybody. 
Wind is picking up again got to go.


After 1 hour of calm, the eye has gone through and the wind picked up from another direction, hitting the door, I am afraid it will break so put all the Pelican cases, tool box, sewing machine, rope drum in front of it to add strength.
Now assessing the situation:
The bedroom still has 5 cm / 2 inches of water: step down converter partially under water, shoes and bag of champagne saber wet, the rest is in plastic boxes of waterproof bags, so minimal loss considering the situation.
From what I remember from Ike in 2008, I think lots of rain show come next.
So preparing for the next steps.
I have 20 cm / 8 inch of water on the balcony behind the hurricane window. Just in case I raise my keyboard, spare fresh water pump, etc.
It is hot and dump.
Thankfully the generator is still working and I use a fan to cool down (not going to risk another fire using the air conditioning) and also charging camera, computer and phone batteries.
The rain has not filled up the hotel cistern, somehow I don’t think it will, and water will become a huge issue for hygiene.
Not just for cooking and shower, but mostly for the toilet.
So I transferred some of my stuff into the closets, etc. and fill up 8 large buckets with the water from the bathroom floor.
This will allow me to flush the restroom once a day for several weeks.
My ears are popping again as the pressure is going back up.
Drinking/cooking water will become an issue as I will need to use some for basic hygiene as well - just use 150 cc for basic cleaning, mostly hand and feet.

— then was the message Bill posted —

Then today


The situation has terribly degraded.
People are stealing anything. I took pictures of 20 to 25 people breaking in Blue Point electronic to steal anything they could. They saw me taking pictures I feared for my life and biked away.
I saw hundred of people robbing the grocery store Carrefour.
Many people have become ruthless and savages.
Bobby’s Boatyard did well, most boats safe.
Port de Plaisance marina is devastated, catamaran flipped over, monohull sink.
The hotel 50kw generator is running low on diesel, I went with an employee to NIKIMAT and dove to open the lazaret, 4 out of my 5 Jerry Cans floated (I assume the diesel is good), couldn’t find the 5th one, probably puncture.
The hotel sewer tanks are almost full and about to overflow in the street.
I bought the last water bottles at the grocery store next to my hotel, I am good for several weeks.
Rarely I get internet connection
Army and police are doing their best, but they are very nervous and not enough of them, people still walk at night to try to rob buildings.
This has become a 3rd World Country.
I am more afraid of the people than the Hurricane.

Sincerely, Alexandre


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Instrument Interconnections

Sv Garulfo
 

Hi Dean,

Let me know if it still doesn't work.

Thanks

Thomas
Garulfo 
Amel 54 #122
Hyeres, France

On 9 September 2017 at 16:59, trifin@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Thomas,

Can you please email that diagram, it didn't come up on the post.
Dean at soundthinking dot com dot au
Many thanks
Dean



Re: Instrument Interconnections

Dean Gillies
 

Hi Thomas,
Can you please email that diagram, it didn't come up on the post.
Dean at soundthinking dot com dot au
Many thanks
Dean


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Hurricane and canvas.

JEFFREY KRAUS
 

We encountered 50 (analog gauge tops out at that at the helm) and began, at one point, tp see some corners go. I carry a couple different nylon twine sizes aboard. I use them to mend nets. I was able to seize up the corners with twine and fasten them down (I think i fastened the corners to the handrail). The twine is like a sailors duct tape. Different sizes help. 



Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S7.

-------- Original message --------
From: "kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: 9/9/17 1:06 AM (GMT-04:00)
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Hurricane and canvas.

 

Duane,

Just to expand, the Raymarine instruments including the cockpit chart plotter are very waterproof. After being submerged many times we had no problems with the instruments, We also had no water down below.

We had the Jordan drogue out when the wind got round 50 knots, thus the stern was to the waves.

We also had the entire cockpit enclosure up. We call it the doghouse. It withstood the wind for almost the entire hurricane. The last 6 hours the zipper on the rear enclosure, which was facing directly into the wind started to come apart. We took some sail thread and sewed the zippers shut.

I now have the same enclosure but, I have had loops made of webbing sewn into the rear enclosure on either side of the zippers about every 10 inches. If necessary I can tie the 
loops together and take the strain off the zippers..

If you have taken the dodger off you know what a pain it is. When I had it off for repair,
I had the sail maker put zippers the width of the dodger where the supports go. I just have to  unzip them and remove the forward bolt rope to remove the dodger.
Fair Winds,
Eric SM 376 kimberlite



----- Original Message -----
From: "kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]"
Date: Friday, September 8, 2017 5:25 pm
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Hurricane Prep
To: kimberlite@...
Cc: amelyachtowners@...

>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> Date: Friday, September 8, 2017 5:14 pm
> Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Hurricane Prep
> To: Duaneamelyachtowners@...,
>
> > Duane,
> > We had Kimberlite under water with just the masts sticking out
> > of the sea in a hurricane.
> > We must have been submerged at least 30 times without any
> cover
> > on the instruments and we had no water damage.
> > Fair Winds,
> > Eric
> > Sm 376 Kimberlite
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners]"
> > Date: Friday, September 8, 2017 3:08 pm
> > Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Hurricane Prep
> > To: amelyachtowners@...
> >
> > > Our boat has a piece of vinyl that attaches to the top of
> the
> > > dodger and forms a curtain just in front of the helm seat,
> all
> > > the way across the cockpit. It also has a zipped doorway for
> > > the companionway.
> > >
> > >
> > > It seems that it would help protect the instruments from
> rain,
> > > and keep water from going down into the companionway drop
> down
> > > doorway.
> > >
> > >
> > > The minus point is that if it shreds (and it is in good
> shape)
> > > it will beat the boat up. What is the common wisdom on this,
> > > use it or not?
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Duane
> > > Wanderer, SM #477
> > >
> >
>


Hurricane and canvas.

kimberlite@...
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Hurricane Prep

JEFFREY KRAUS
 

Duane, anything 50 + your canvas is going to be prone to shred. Pay attention to what Eric from Kimberlte said. The canvas was designed to protect the cockpit occupannt from unco.fortable weather at sea, not protect the instruments from getting exposed to moisture.                                         Regards, jeff.                                                        Spirit Amel 54 #14. Cabp Rojo PR



Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S7.

-------- Original message --------
From: "sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: 9/8/17 3:08 PM (GMT-04:00)
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Hurricane Prep

 

Our boat has a piece of vinyl that attaches to the top of the dodger and forms a curtain just in front of the helm seat, all the way across the cockpit.  It also has a zipped doorway for the companionway.  


It seems that it would help protect the instruments from rain, and keep water from going down into the companionway drop down doorway.  


The minus point is that if it shreds (and it is in good shape) it will beat the boat up.  What is the common wisdom on this, use it or not?


Thanks,

Duane

Wanderer, SM #477


Cheers Alex

pjn.mccallin@...
 

Good evening Ben, yes safely tucked up in Jolly Harbour. The marina staff have told owners all is well, though with the caveat of the next storm not to far away! Bummer!

We have been advised that Yachts moored in the IWW marina did not fair well I would have bet money that the Lagoon would have afforded good protection, shows you what I know.

May meet up next season, we return mid November with a shed load of spares as usual!

Regards Patrick & Elaine regards also to Gayle.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Hurricane Prep

kimberlite@...
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Hurricane Prep

John Clark
 

Duane,
   If you are at anchor/on a mooring the wind will be from the front making it unlikely to shred.   Also if wind does wrap around, the rain will be impacting your instruments and companionway like firehose.  It might be good to have something there to hold back the water.    
A thought,  maybe duct tape over instruments and cableways?

Good luck, John

John Clark
SV Annie, SM 37
Feeling blessed on the Pamlico Sound.

On Sep 8, 2017 3:08 PM, "sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Our boat has a piece of vinyl that attaches to the top of the dodger and forms a curtain just in front of the helm seat, all the way across the cockpit.  It also has a zipped doorway for the companionway.  


It seems that it would help protect the instruments from rain, and keep water from going down into the companionway drop down doorway.  


The minus point is that if it shreds (and it is in good shape) it will beat the boat up.  What is the common wisdom on this, use it or not?


Thanks,

Duane

Wanderer, SM #477


Re: Hurricane Prep

Craig Briggs
 

Hi Duane, Always use ours when boats out of commission or wintering. Works great and took a 120mph bora in Croatia. Kent's advice in sage, though.
Cheerz Craig sn68 Sangaris


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Alternative for not working Sonic Speed sensors

Craig Briggs
 

Interesting. Ive got the DT version and the Temp function failed.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Hurricane Prep

karkauai
 

I wouldn't leave any canvas exposed to the wind.

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy

.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Alternative for not working Sonic Speed sensors

karkauai
 

I just looked at the DST800 online, and I'm pretty sure that's the one my electrician said was fraught with problems. They've quit installing them because of early returns with non functioning units.

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
SM243


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Bilge maitenance

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi,

We had bilge smell coming up the pipe to the aft head/shower. I over came it by adding an upward bend at the entry of that pipe to the bilge. This has the same effect as the S bends under household sinks. Fitted it about 7 years ago and had no trouble with it since. Its so long ago Id have to go and look at it again to see the detail of how it was done. No smell, no blockages.

Regards

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl

On 09 September 2017 at 03:12 "jhe1313@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Now I've cleaned my bilge thoroughly using a newly acquired Kaercher and wetvac.  It sparkled just a few days ago.  I did not see a copper strop but two keel bolts, which were backed by a stainless steel plate.  I have a follow up question:  what do people use against the smell of the bilge water?  Amel advice is to use bilge cleaner once a month (or week?).   Many thanks! 


 


Hurricane Prep

sailor63109@...
 

Our boat has a piece of vinyl that attaches to the top of the dodger and forms a curtain just in front of the helm seat, all the way across the cockpit.  It also has a zipped doorway for the companionway.  


It seems that it would help protect the instruments from rain, and keep water from going down into the companionway drop down doorway.  


The minus point is that if it shreds (and it is in good shape) it will beat the boat up.  What is the common wisdom on this, use it or not?


Thanks,

Duane

Wanderer, SM #477


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Alternative for not working Sonic Speed sensors

karkauai
 

I'll ask Craig, the thru-hull I want to use is a lot bigger than the AirMar one they tried today. Wasn't sure they could find an adapter.  I want to leave the big thruhull for possible use with forward looking sonar in the future.  If the depth sounder that doesn't require a thruhull works well and is reliable, I'll probably go with that.  The old sonar could die anytime, so it would've nice to have redundant system.

Kent Robertson
S/V Kristy
USA cell: 828-234-6819

On Sep 8, 2017, at 2:06 PM, sangaris@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Kent
Would the B&G DST800 (by Aitmar I'm sure) do the trick along with their Forward Scan transducer.
Craig ( off NJ shore en route to Chesapeake)


Re: Alternative for not working Sonic Speed sensors

Craig Briggs
 

Hi Kent
Would the B&G DST800 (by Aitmar I'm sure) do the trick along with their Forward Scan transducer.
Craig ( off NJ shore en route to Chesapeake)


Re: Bilge maitenance

Paul Osterberg
 

We do not use anything at all, but are very careful when doing the dishes no "residuals " are allowed to go down to the bilge. We have a ladies sock as  mesh collecting anything that eventually is on its way down to the bilge.
Now and then we use the hand pump as it drains the bilge better. On top of that we add a dishwasher tablet about once a week. More for fat and grease reduction than smell.
Use the hand pump at least on a weekly basis and smell will be significantly reduced

Paul on SY Kerpa SM 259 Port Washington heading south again