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locked Re: Engine troubles in Sardegna

James Alton
 

Kim,

   That is interesting about the different stud spacing measurements, too bad.  You might ask Amanda to clarify the measurements on the pump listed below to be sure that it is what you need before ordering.  I can tell you that the pump listed below fit a 1983 UK model Perkins and also my 1987 Perkins series 200.  If I can help further let me know.  If you want to send me your email address I will send you the entire back and forth thread on the pump order, there could be some useful information contained.

Best,
James Alton
SV Sueno
Maramu #220

Cut and pasted from the order sent to Amanda:

Perkins Engine Water Pump for Bobcat OEM 6630541, Later Model"  

Make: Perkins
Model:
Machine Serial #: 6630541
#'s on Part:


-----Original Message-----
From: Kimberly Bunch via groups.io <kimberlybunch@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Thu, Jun 9, 2022 10:52 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Mayday! Engine troubles in Sardegna

Thanks James. Yes please, we'd like the part number. And we'll try them if the other orders don't come through.

Parts4engines stipulates on their website that there are two versions with different measurements.47 and 49 and that they only have 47. Ours is definitely more than 47.
What a headache, sorry about that.

Cheers
Kim


Re: Zinc Anodes

luvkante
 

Hi Eric,

Brilliant idea! Where do you connect the hanging anode to?

Martin
AMEL 54 #149 CHIARA
Varazze/Italy


Re: Fridge pump

Dean Gillies
 

Hi Den and Julie,
The water lines through the fridge do vibrate a bit, so if they come in contact with a panel on the boat that resonates then you can hear it. However, in your case it's intermittent, so I wonder if there is some debris in your lines which is causing partial blockage and causing the lines to vibrate more.

it might be time to flush the lines with something. I do mine with white vinegar, letting it lie for 24 hours before flushing through. To be honest I don't have any clear evidence that it works, other than the fact my lines keep working ok!

Other owners use stronger solutions, Barnacle Buster is a product that some folks swear by. I guess it depends on what you can get in Croatia.

Cheers

--
Dean Gillies
SV Stella *****,  Amel 54-154


Re: Fresh Water Indicator Light on 24vdc panel (SM2K)

Eric Freedman
 

Hi Rick,

Make sure that the hot wire that goes to the light in the engine room is connected between the pressure switch and the pump motor.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io On Behalf Of Rick Stanley
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2022 1:44 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Fresh Water Indicator Light on 24vdc panel (SM2K)

 

Hey folks quick question. Fresh water pump indicator light hasn't worked on our boat since we purchased it. Bought a new bulb, black and blue wires off the old bulb and onto the new bulb ....and no joy. Any thought on where to go next for troubleshooting? It's entirely possible, if not probable, the actual bulb wasn't bad at all but something in the wiring is off. We have a Flojet pump if that matters at all.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks!!

Rick Stanley
Capt, S/V Althea
AMEL SM2K #317
Rock Hall, MD


Re: Saloon 9eh Climma Air Conditioner replacement

Eric Freedman
 

Thanks Mark,

Fair Winds

Eric

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io On Behalf Of Mark Erdos
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2022 1:36 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Saloon 9eh Climma Air Conditioner replacement

 

 

 

Hi Eric,

Yes it fits. It is a very tight fit. I should also tell you I removed the foam and wood Amel had for the Climma unit to sit on. Since the Webasto compressor has a floating mount, this is not needed. You should measure without the wood and foam padding. If you feel the need to dampen the sound, you could use a much thinner rubber pad. I didn't see the need and am happy with the sound level. I think it is comparable to the Climma I replaced.

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

On 6/7/2022 9:19 AM, Eric Freedman wrote:

Hi Mark,

Did this unit fit under the saloon seat?

I measure 12 inches this unit seems to be 13 inches high.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io On Behalf Of Mark Erdos
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2022 11:00 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Saloon 9eh Climma Air Conditioner replacement

 

Hi Eric,

Hope all is well.

As my Climma units die, I have been replacing them with Webasto FCF Platinum units. I am very happy with these. My oldest Webasto unit is 2 years old. The plumbing for seawater is the same size and the units are plug and play. It includes the control panel, so this is an additional savings. The units appear to be well-made.

One of the key selling points for me was the cooling water requirements (GPH). It is much lower than Dometic requirements and as you know the Amel moves the same water through all 3 units, so it is good not to have a finicky unit that will shut down. Also, they are less expensive.

https://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1&id=3050595

Hope this helps.

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff

www.creampuff.us

 

On 6/6/2022 3:44 PM, Eric Freedman wrote:

Has anyone replaced the Climma compact 9eh unit in the saloon?

I replaced the aft cabin one with a Dometic, but it will not fit under the seat in the saloon.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 


Re: Zinc Anodes

Eric Freedman
 

Ruslan,

I use regular R7 zincs—bigger is better.

You just drill out the hole a bit and use a grinder on the top to make a flat spot . Easier to get and much more zinc.

 

I also hang this zinc over the side whenever I am in a marina. The boat next to you might be “hot” this zinc shows a lot of wear and is much better than the normal guppy that is available in most chandleries

https://www.boatzincs.com/hanging_anode_zinc.html

 

I also use this device when I am in a marina to see what the electric is in the water.

https://www.boatzincs.com/corrosion-reference-electrode.html

 

Fair Winds

 

 

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io On Behalf Of Ruslan Osmonov
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2022 12:22 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Zinc Anodes

 

Just FYI, I called Technoseal USA and they stock up BoatZinc.com with 125mm diameter and 11mm hole zinc anodes. 
Although they call them Azimut, because Azimut boats need it in USA, but the rep told me it is Technoseal product.
https://www.boatzincs.com/Azimut-R4.html

--
Fair winds
Ruslan Osmonov
Phanthom, A54 #44


Re: Watermaker membrane #solution #replacement

Jérémy
 

Nice topic.

Last week I put the watermaker back into service on my SM #121 (1994).
It only had 9 hours of operation...
I followed restart procedure from the Dessalator manual, changed the prefilter for a new one, cleaned the TDS sensor, flushed the membrane with fresh water for 30 minutes... and start producing water. Led was green, and it produce about 30L/h (I have a 50L/h unit but water temperature was probably around 15°C). Works perfectly well during 4h, then I shut if off.

Water looks clean... tastes normal. Not salty.

I don't have a portable TDS tester. I just thought: if the water was not good, the orange light should come on and the solenoid valve should dump the water overboard.

Also, I have a new SEAGULL IV X1 filter. Do you think it is enough to trust and drink the water ? (actually I already did :p )

I saw the price of new membranes. Maybve it would help to produce more liters/h (but maybe not... maybe the 30L/h were normal for 15°C water), but, I'm not a full time cruiser, so I can wait a bit (specially, like other have mentioned, membranes are overpriced in Europe...)


Jérémy
SM#121
Le 09/06/2022 à 13:26, JOSE PRIETO a écrit :

Dear Amelians, I ask for help.  

My Desalator D60 watermaker has been little used in its life apparently.  In the last 4 months I've been using it more intensively (at least 2 times a week).  I always measure the TDS and normally it was below 500 ppm, around 450. A few days ago the ppm suddenly went up to 960, and I notice that the watermaker often goes beyond the green range after some time of water production, and turns off (Red light).  I immediately think about replacing the membranes, but I have no experience in the behavior of the membrane, if it deteriorates quickly, or the tds goes down slowly.  Another observation is that the value of the membrane in the USA is around 250 usd, and in Europe where I am, the Desalator dealer asks for 400 euros per membrane.  Any help will be welcome
--
Jose Prieto
SV Wayag, SM 323
Currently Menorca, Spain


--
SM #121 Nausicaä
Nantes, France


Re: Autoprop rebuild

 

Kevin,


Bill

CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   

On Thu, Jun 9, 2022 at 3:04 PM Kevin Schmit <kevschmit64@...> wrote:
Autoprop rebuild disassembly -check!
Here’s to hoping the assembly goes as smooth as the tear down.  Thanks to all those members before me that shared their Autoprop information.


--


Kevin & Kristen Schmit
KIANA
Herrington Harbor North-On the hard
Chesapeake Bay, MD
SM #362


Autoprop rebuild

Kevin Schmit
 

Autoprop rebuild disassembly -check!
Here’s to hoping the assembly goes as smooth as the tear down.  Thanks to all those members before me that shared their Autoprop information.


--


Kevin & Kristen Schmit
KIANA
Herrington Harbor North-On the hard
Chesapeake Bay, MD
SM #362


Re: Watermaker membrane #solution #replacement

Roman Lawrence
 

Here the offer from Lenntech

Dear Sir/Madam,

Thank you for contacting Lenntech.
Based on the data from your enquiry, I can offer you the following:

 

 

Model

Brand

Quantity

Price/Unit

Total

Delivery Time

1

SW30-2540

Datasheet

HS Code: 84219990
Country of Origin: United States

Dupont

2 Pieces

€ 215.00

€ 430.00

3-4 weeks tbc at order

Transport Germany
DAP. Delivered At Place

€ 50.00

 

Total Net Price EUR

€ 480.00

 

 

       

Destination Prospect

Germany

 

 

Quote Reference CERX182

LQ-1735

 

 

Payment conditions

Prepayment

 

 

Transport conditions

DAP. Delivered At Place

 

 


Lenntech delivers according to Orgalime SI14.
Above prices are valid for 15 days for the quoted quantities.
Our prices are exclusive of the legalization of documents such as invoices or certificates of origin by the Chamber of Commerce or embassy.


For any further questions, please don´t hesitate to contact me.
I am looking forward to your reply.



Best regards,

Loïc Quintarelli
Junior sales
Lenntech BV


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+31 15 275 57 15 (Direct)
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Phone: +31 152 610 900
Fax: +31 152 616 289
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Phone: +1 877 453 8095
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Phone: +971 4 429 5853
e-mail: info@...

 


Re: Watermaker membrane #solution #replacement

Roman Lawrence
 

hello Jose following text you will find an offer for original membranes, sa well the ones from China Alibaba (I paid DDP 511 $ for 4 off) as welli can the data shett for the watermaker in different languages as you will send me your email adress. (We met in June 2020 in Spain when we took our Super Maramu Coque en Re to Germany. We have had problems wit the petrol filter...petrol wa floating in the engine room)


locked Re: Engine troubles in Sardegna

Kimberly Bunch
 

Thanks James. Yes please, we'd like the part number. And we'll try them if the other orders don't come through.

Parts4engines stipulates on their website that there are two versions with different measurements.47 and 49 and that they only have 47. Ours is definitely more than 47.
What a headache, sorry about that.

Cheers
Kim


Re: Saloon 9eh Climma Air Conditioner replacement

Dan Carlson
 

For those that are off-grid/energy conscious, I installed the Webasto FCFP6000 units in the fore and aft cabins. They are very efficient and we have run then a number of times on our 3000w inverter. They cool effectively enough (no not a meat locker cold) but cool and dry. Even the aft cabin on a sunny afternoon. And overnight, once they reach temperature they draw only for the fan, and the water.pumo is only on when the compressor cycles on. 

It's good to hear that the 10,000 but unit fits in the main salon. I think that would be more appropriate for that spot.  

Regards, Daniel and Lori Carlson on sv BeBe, SM #387



On Thu, Jun 9, 2022, 1:35 AM Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> wrote:

 

 

Hi Eric,

Yes it fits. It is a very tight fit. I should also tell you I removed the foam and wood Amel had for the Climma unit to sit on. Since the Webasto compressor has a floating mount, this is not needed. You should measure without the wood and foam padding. If you feel the need to dampen the sound, you could use a much thinner rubber pad. I didn't see the need and am happy with the sound level. I think it is comparable to the Climma I replaced.

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us


On 6/7/2022 9:19 AM, Eric Freedman wrote:

Hi Mark,

Did this unit fit under the saloon seat?

I measure 12 inches this unit seems to be 13 inches high.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io On Behalf Of Mark Erdos
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2022 11:00 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Saloon 9eh Climma Air Conditioner replacement

 

Hi Eric,

Hope all is well.

As my Climma units die, I have been replacing them with Webasto FCF Platinum units. I am very happy with these. My oldest Webasto unit is 2 years old. The plumbing for seawater is the same size and the units are plug and play. It includes the control panel, so this is an additional savings. The units appear to be well-made.

One of the key selling points for me was the cooling water requirements (GPH). It is much lower than Dometic requirements and as you know the Amel moves the same water through all 3 units, so it is good not to have a finicky unit that will shut down. Also, they are less expensive.

https://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1&id=3050595

Hope this helps.

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff

www.creampuff.us

 

On 6/6/2022 3:44 PM, Eric Freedman wrote:

Has anyone replaced the Climma compact 9eh unit in the saloon?

I replaced the aft cabin one with a Dometic, but it will not fit under the seat in the saloon.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 


Re: Watermaker membrane #solution #replacement

 

Yesterday I saw a new Steyr MO144M38 engine advertised on China.com for 5000 €. Of course, it was FAKE. Although there are good sources in China, there are a lot of people that are highly skilled in taking advantage of those looking for a bargain.

As far as I know, there is one manufacturer of membranes in the world. DOW Filtec makes very high-quality membranes using robotics. Before DOW bought Filmtec there was very few robotics involved in the manufacturing. I assume that some entity in China could manually lay up membranes, but I doubt that they will get to Filmtec's quality. Also, make sure that the Filmtec number starts with "SW" which designates saltwater. I saw some BW30-2540 advertised from China.com. BW is for brackish water. WARNING: These have a shelf life. If someone is selling you a bargain be sure you determine that it was made within 6 months and is in its original packaging. From Filmtec: "Wet elements are bagged in a durable, oxygen-barrier composite plastic bag and the preservative solution is delivered prior to vacuum sealing.  Precise preservative volume and high bag integrity help ensure a stable preservative environment during transportation and storage."

Regrettably, there is significant profit taking by some resellers of Filmtec's membranes. You should price shop. I believe that you should not pay more than 275 € for the following Filmtec membranes:
SW30 2540 
SW30-2521

Here is a US distributor who is a Yacht School Preferred Vendor: https://preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/airwaterice.html


CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   

On Thu, Jun 9, 2022 at 12:46 PM JOSE PRIETO <prietomd11@...> wrote:
Hi Slavco,

Thanks for the address.

best regards


--
Jose Prieto
SV Wayag, SM 323
Currently Menorca, Spain


Re: Zinc Anodes

Ruslan Osmonov
 

I don't know why it is called R4, but here are the parameters of it. 
I thought parameters wise is what AMELs need. No?
Diameter:  125mm (4.9")
Thickness:  21mm (0.8")
Hole Diameter:  11mm (0.4")
Countersink Diameter:  30mm (1.1") 

--
Fair winds
Ruslan Osmonov
Phanthom, A54 #44


Re: Fresh Water Indicator Light on 24vdc panel (SM2K)

 

I think I know why. I am betting that the original pump has been changed. The + wire to that light was connected to the SQUARE D pressure switch. The - 24v was connected to the negative bus on the back of the 24v breaker panel.
image.png



CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   

On Thu, Jun 9, 2022 at 12:43 PM Rick Stanley <rstanley907@...> wrote:
Hey folks quick question. Fresh water pump indicator light hasn't worked on our boat since we purchased it. Bought a new bulb, black and blue wires off the old bulb and onto the new bulb ....and no joy. Any thought on where to go next for troubleshooting? It's entirely possible, if not probable, the actual bulb wasn't bad at all but something in the wiring is off. We have a Flojet pump if that matters at all.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks!!

Rick Stanley
Capt, S/V Althea
AMEL SM2K #317
Rock Hall, MD


Re: Zinc Anodes

 

Ruslan,

R4 is too small
image.png


CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   

On Thu, Jun 9, 2022 at 11:22 AM Ruslan Osmonov <rosmonov@...> wrote:
Just FYI, I called Technoseal USA and they stock up BoatZinc.com with 125mm diameter and 11mm hole zinc anodes. 
Although they call them Azimut, because Azimut boats need it in USA, but the rep told me it is Technoseal product.
https://www.boatzincs.com/Azimut-R4.html

--
Fair winds
Ruslan Osmonov
Phanthom, A54 #44


Re: Watermaker membrane #solution #replacement

JOSE PRIETO
 

Hi Slavco,

Thanks for the address.

best regards


--
Jose Prieto
SV Wayag, SM 323
Currently Menorca, Spain


Fresh Water Indicator Light on 24vdc panel (SM2K)

Rick Stanley
 

Hey folks quick question. Fresh water pump indicator light hasn't worked on our boat since we purchased it. Bought a new bulb, black and blue wires off the old bulb and onto the new bulb ....and no joy. Any thought on where to go next for troubleshooting? It's entirely possible, if not probable, the actual bulb wasn't bad at all but something in the wiring is off. We have a Flojet pump if that matters at all.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks!!

Rick Stanley
Capt, S/V Althea
AMEL SM2K #317
Rock Hall, MD


Re: Zinc Anodes

Ruslan Osmonov
 

Just FYI, I called Technoseal USA and they stock up BoatZinc.com with 125mm diameter and 11mm hole zinc anodes. 
Although they call them Azimut, because Azimut boats need it in USA, but the rep told me it is Technoseal product.
https://www.boatzincs.com/Azimut-R4.html

--
Fair winds
Ruslan Osmonov
Phanthom, A54 #44

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