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Introduction and gennaker/ballooner querry

David Dickman
 

Hello fellow Amelians:
   My name is David Dickman and I was fortunate in being able to recently purchase Amel 54 #100 (previously GalacSea II).  The previous owners, the Halphens, were superb caretakers and the boat is exquisite. 

    The new name of the boat is GALINI and I am confident she will fulfill her new namesake for many years to come.

     My query regards the use: hoist and dousing of the ballooner/gennaker sail in tandem with the genoa.  I have a 3 track foil and have researched this question on the forum and web in general.  I understand the concept of the two slides, as well as the hook/catch system, but am leary of trying it without further insight.  Thus, I am asking if anyone has a detailed instruction quide to same they would be willing to share.

    Thanks for any help you can provide; thrilled to be in same company of such fine sailors.

Best,
    David


Re: Insurance

Mark Erdos
 

Another vote for Topsail (5% discount to OCC members). However, they will not cover US flagged boats in the USA. Perhaps a consideration once you get there or a least worth a conversation in the meantime.

 

As an FYI, the Marine Shop in NZ sells the same policy. They might sell to a US boat in the US. I’m not sure. The policy is: Global Yacht Cover underwritten by Great Lake Insurance SE (AM Best A+ rating)

 

Hope this helps.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chuck_Kim_Joy
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2022 4:46 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Insurance

 

Greetings All,
Are there any US citizens with US flagged boats fully insured in the Mediterranean presently or recently? I am looking for an insurance policy to cross the Atlantic and cruise the Med. Thank you in advance and all the best!

Chuck and Kim 
Joy SM 388
St.martin WI


Re: Insurance

Mark Erdos
 

 

Something to consider: if you are in paying for named storm coverage in the Caribbean and your insurance company requires you to be out of the hurricane zone, you are paying a lot of money for something that has a very tiny chance of a claim. Perhaps consider a policy with no coverage for named storms. Yes, there are risks but there are also places to sail close to the West Indies that take you 99.9% out of harm’s way.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Scott SV Tengah
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2022 12:11 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Insurance

 

Not in the Med right now, but I can tell you that insurance for the Med is FAR cheaper than the Caribbean, so I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.

I was paying $4k a year in the Med and the moment I hit the Caribbean, that more than doubled. And that's with staying above the Florida/Georgia line during Hurricane season. Had to be completely out of the Caribbean, so going south didn't work.

Frankly, I found Med sailing far more challenging than the Caribbean, so not sure why it's cheaper. It's true that the wind was either non-existent or too much. Most of our engine hours in our half circumnavigation to date were from the Med. So was our strongest winds and steepest seas (Gulf du Lyon).

But the land life cannot be beat. 

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #6
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


𝗣𝗿𝗼𝘃𝗶𝘀𝗶𝗼𝗻𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗥𝗼𝘂𝗻𝗱𝘁𝗮𝗯𝗹𝗲 𝗩𝗶𝗱𝗲𝗼 𝗶𝘀 𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗱𝘆 𝘁𝗼 𝘃𝗶𝗲𝘄

 

Thanks to the Panelists participating in the Provisioning Roundtable!

Anyone can view the video at https://youtu.be/IduAA8kMZlo
Bill


CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   


D400 Wind Generator 24V

Chris Doucette
 

FYI I am selling a Brand New D400 Wind Generator Kit (generator, resistors, charge regulator, etc.) if anyone on this group is in the market for one.

CHris
S/V Amarok SM385


Re: Endless rope loops

Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
 

Thanks everyone for all the great feedback. As regards strength and overall security, is there any difference between a loop and a soft shackle?

 

 

Cheers,

Paul

 

Paul Dowd & Sharon Brown

S/Y Ya Fohi, Amel 54 #98
tel: +44 (0)7710 466619

skype: pauldowd
web:
https://my.yb.tl/yafohi

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sv Garulfo
Sent: 27 February 2022 19:59
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Endless rope loops

 

 

One thing to note is that despite what their setup looks like, those loops don’t have to (and most certainly can’t) be made in-situ. The blocks need to be taken appart, which is not difficult and a good occasion to thoroughly inspect and clean them. 

 

Changing the protection sleeve is do-able but don’t expect professional looking results on the first few tries... 

The internal line on mine were stitched properly. 

 

The alternative is soft shackles, easier to splice, don’t need to take the blocks appart, but maybe not as elegant...

 

 

 

Thomas

GARULFO 

A54-122

Rapa, French Polynesia

 

 

 


On 27 Feb 2022, at 12:03, Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> wrote:

I remade most of them on my 54. You just need replacement dyneema chafe protection sleeves and a fid set like this:

https://www.amazon.com/Samson-Selma-Splicing-Fids-Five/dp/B006L9GB48

Carefully open one up by removing the whipping threads. If you feel like it, replace the 4mm (perhaps it's 5mm) line inside. Mine looked fine, so I did not replace the internal line. Once you open it up, you will see how easy it is to make the loop. Restitch it as Amel's method of making the loop can possibly unravel if the loop is not kept under tension and vibrates a lot.

You will want to make an endless loop as per original and not use a soft shackle for this application, imo. First, you want the additional sun/chafe protection from the sleeve and also making a strong enough soft shackle that has that small of an inside diameter will be difficult. 

You could buy replacements from Amel but I suggest getting the fids and learning how to splice and also make soft shackles. In addition, you can slowly start replacing the hard shackles aboard with soft shackles. I bought some commercial soft shackles in the past and threw a few out because I realize how poorly the diamond knot was tied. Don't assume that buying it pre-made will mean that it's better.


--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


Re: Cruising in Chile

Rachael
 

Thanks for this Ian

Hubby’s been sent out for popcorn, looking forward to viewing it tonight!

We might have some good news to share with you soon, hope to see you in Sussex before too long if not Greece.

BW

Rachael & Robin Courtenay
Seeking an Amel
Europe


Re: Endless rope loops

Sv Garulfo
 


One thing to note is that despite what their setup looks like, those loops don’t have to (and most certainly can’t) be made in-situ. The blocks need to be taken appart, which is not difficult and a good occasion to thoroughly inspect and clean them. 

Changing the protection sleeve is do-able but don’t expect professional looking results on the first few tries... 
The internal line on mine were stitched properly. 

The alternative is soft shackles, easier to splice, don’t need to take the blocks appart, but maybe not as elegant...



Thomas
GARULFO 
A54-122
Rapa, French Polynesia




On 27 Feb 2022, at 12:03, Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> wrote:

I remade most of them on my 54. You just need replacement dyneema chafe protection sleeves and a fid set like this:

https://www.amazon.com/Samson-Selma-Splicing-Fids-Five/dp/B006L9GB48

Carefully open one up by removing the whipping threads. If you feel like it, replace the 4mm (perhaps it's 5mm) line inside. Mine looked fine, so I did not replace the internal line. Once you open it up, you will see how easy it is to make the loop. Restitch it as Amel's method of making the loop can possibly unravel if the loop is not kept under tension and vibrates a lot.

You will want to make an endless loop as per original and not use a soft shackle for this application, imo. First, you want the additional sun/chafe protection from the sleeve and also making a strong enough soft shackle that has that small of an inside diameter will be difficult. 

You could buy replacements from Amel but I suggest getting the fids and learning how to splice and also make soft shackles. In addition, you can slowly start replacing the hard shackles aboard with soft shackles. I bought some commercial soft shackles in the past and threw a few out because I realize how poorly the diamond knot was tied. Don't assume that buying it pre-made will mean that it's better.


--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Insurance

Scott SV Tengah
 

Not in the Med right now, but I can tell you that insurance for the Med is FAR cheaper than the Caribbean, so I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.

I was paying $4k a year in the Med and the moment I hit the Caribbean, that more than doubled. And that's with staying above the Florida/Georgia line during Hurricane season. Had to be completely out of the Caribbean, so going south didn't work.

Frankly, I found Med sailing far more challenging than the Caribbean, so not sure why it's cheaper. It's true that the wind was either non-existent or too much. Most of our engine hours in our half circumnavigation to date were from the Med. So was our strongest winds and steepest seas (Gulf du Lyon).

But the land life cannot be beat. 

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #6
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Endless rope loops

Scott SV Tengah
 

I remade most of them on my 54. You just need replacement dyneema chafe protection sleeves and a fid set like this:

https://www.amazon.com/Samson-Selma-Splicing-Fids-Five/dp/B006L9GB48

Carefully open one up by removing the whipping threads. If you feel like it, replace the 4mm (perhaps it's 5mm) line inside. Mine looked fine, so I did not replace the internal line. Once you open it up, you will see how easy it is to make the loop. Restitch it as Amel's method of making the loop can possibly unravel if the loop is not kept under tension and vibrates a lot.

You will want to make an endless loop as per original and not use a soft shackle for this application, imo. First, you want the additional sun/chafe protection from the sleeve and also making a strong enough soft shackle that has that small of an inside diameter will be difficult. 

You could buy replacements from Amel but I suggest getting the fids and learning how to splice and also make soft shackles. In addition, you can slowly start replacing the hard shackles aboard with soft shackles. I bought some commercial soft shackles in the past and threw a few out because I realize how poorly the diamond knot was tied. Don't assume that buying it pre-made will mean that it's better.


--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Cruising in Chile

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 




Guys 'n gals,

From time to time on this website I have banged on about our 7 year circumnavigation of South America, including three seasons in Chile and how an Amel is the perfect boat to take there. I am a member of the Royal Thames Yacht Club in London. The vice commodore there is an old friend and his wife twisted my arm to give a talk last week. 
 In case you have exhausted all your box sets and have absolutely nothing else to amuse you, here is my talk.

It starts at about the 6th minute and there is a bit of a glitch between the first and second slides, but if you keep going it takes about 80 minutes in all.

 I hope it will give you some idea of sailing in Chile.  Pen Azen is in the Aegean these days but our hearts are very much out there. If we won the lottery we would have a second Pen Azen based in Puerto Montt.

 Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Kilada, Greece
 


Re: Insurance

Drew Gaffney
 

We used TopSail after Pantaenius withdrew from the US market.  Rigging issues were excluded until new standing rigging installed.  Excellent geographic coveragel
Drew
Former Owner
SV Revelation SM2k290

On Sat, Feb 26, 2022 at 6:46 AM Chuck_Kim_Joy <clacey9@...> wrote:
Greetings All,
Are there any US citizens with US flagged boats fully insured in the Mediterranean presently or recently? I am looking for an insurance policy to cross the Atlantic and cruise the Med. Thank you in advance and all the best!

Chuck and Kim 
Joy SM 388
St.martin WI


Re: Mizzen Staysail sheets.

Courtney Gorman
 

I also have only 1 sheet for my mizzen Ballooner I believe 12 meters wish it was 13
Cheers
Courtney
Trippin

On Feb 26, 2022, at 5:46 PM, Germain Jean-Pierre <jp.germain45@...> wrote:

Ooops… wrong email addy...



Hello Group,

I have a new Mizzen Staysail/Ballooner. Came without sheets.

What type of material and dimensions are they?

Many thanks.


Jean-Pierre Germain, Eleuthera, SM007 NZ
jp.germain45@...







1996 SM153 “Loca Lola II” For Sale

Ian Townsend
 

Our fellow Amelians;

We are putting “Loca Lola II” for sale. 

- 1996 Super Maramu hull number 153

- Canadian registered but will be made available for sale in the US or elsewhere if requested. Currently located in the Bahamas
- we are the third owners
- in SM terms, it is lightly used having done only one transatlantic (Canaries to Martinique)
- though she was in above average condition when we purchased the boat in 2014, we are very proud of the fact that through our numerous upgrades, regular maintenance and with the amazing help of the AMEL community, she is a much better vessel now than ever.
- we are selling due a health reason
- Asking $289K

Email us at smlocalola@... for specs and photos. 


Ian
SM153
Loca Lola II
Bahamas


Re: Endless rope loops

Alan Leslie
 

Hi Paul,

Its easy enough to make soft shackles with a length of dyneema and a fid....

https://www.animatedknots.com/soft-shackle

Cheers

Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: Endless rope loops [sizing]

David Vogel
 

Greets.,

 

I have found 6mm too small (for the mainsheet-to-boom attachment, for instance, even though doubled-up), and swapped that for 8mm, retaining the multiple turns (wraps).  10mm for the genoa tack, as this is a single loop.  12mm for the genoa sheets.  In addition, I am using a velcro band-wrap to hold the soft shackles exactly how I want them, especially those not constantly under load (e.g. sheets, which could be subject to flogging), or those not directly observable (head of genoa).

 

I would be interested in the experience of others, as I am using ‘what feels right’, but without any science re load factors etc.

 

Best,

 

David

SM#396, Perigee

 

 

From: <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Chuck_Kim_Joy <clacey9@...>
Reply to: <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Date: Sunday, 27 February 2022 at 12:11 pm
To: <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Endless rope loops

 

Hi David,

What mm are you finding that will cover most replacements or are you matching mm to load very specifically. 

 

All the best,

Chuck 

Joy 388

 

On Sat, Feb 26, 2022 at 6:37 PM David Vogel <david.vogel@...> wrote:

Greets,

 

Are you referring to “soft shackles”?

 

If so, you can buy these at a chandlery, or go to a rigger / sail-maker, and get them made up to spec.  We are in the process of replacing all met-to-metal shackle with soft shackles.

 

Best,

 

David

SM#396, Perigee

 

 

From: <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...>
Organisation: FGPS
Reply to: <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Date: Sunday, 27 February 2022 at 11:33 am
To: <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Endless rope loops

 

Hi All,

 

Many of the “endless rope loops” – I don’t know what the technical term is – that secure e.g. the mizzen sheet block to the boom, amongst a number of other things, look to be in need of replacement. I was wondering if anyone can recommend a suitable alternative to these as I know that to make them in situ as would be required requires some expertise which I do not have and cannot see gaining anytime soon.

 

Cheers,

Paul

 

Paul Dowd & Sharon Brown

S/Y Ya Fohi, Amel 54 #98
tel: +44 (0)7710 466619

skype: pauldowd
web:
https://my.yb.tl/yafohi

 


--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


Re: Mizzen Staysail sheets.

Alan Leslie
 

Hi JP,

If you wanted to know for sure, our mizzen ballooner is in the lazarette under the barbeque and stuff.
I'm pretty sure it has only one sheet and it's 10mm polyester about 12m long.

Cheers

Alan
Elyse SM437 


Re: Endless rope loops

Doug Smith
 

You can make them fairly easily. The diameter on mine were 4.5 inches and I used 1/8”, 3/16” and 1/4” dyeneema to make them.  On Aventura the 1/8 dyneema matches very closely to the original ones. 
Directions are here. https://l-36.com/loop.php

Thanks, Doug Smith

Amel 54-113, Aventura

Dugsmith98@...

On Feb 26, 2022, at 6:05 PM, Chuck_Kim_Joy <clacey9@...> wrote:


Hi David,
What mm are you finding that will cover most replacements or are you matching mm to load very specifically. 

All the best,
Chuck 
Joy 388

On Sat, Feb 26, 2022 at 6:37 PM David Vogel <david.vogel@...> wrote:

Greets,

 

Are you referring to “soft shackles”?

 

If so, you can buy these at a chandlery, or go to a rigger / sail-maker, and get them made up to spec.  We are in the process of replacing all met-to-metal shackle with soft shackles.

 

Best,

 

David

SM#396, Perigee

 

 

From: <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...>
Organisation: FGPS
Reply to: <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Date: Sunday, 27 February 2022 at 11:33 am
To: <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Endless rope loops

 

Hi All,

 

Many of the “endless rope loops” – I don’t know what the technical term is – that secure e.g. the mizzen sheet block to the boom, amongst a number of other things, look to be in need of replacement. I was wondering if anyone can recommend a suitable alternative to these as I know that to make them in situ as would be required requires some expertise which I do not have and cannot see gaining anytime soon.

 

Cheers,

Paul

 

Paul Dowd & Sharon Brown

S/Y Ya Fohi, Amel 54 #98
tel: +44 (0)7710 466619

skype: pauldowd
web:
https://my.yb.tl/yafohi

 


--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


Re: Remote temperature, pressure and humidity monitoring

Doug Smith
 

Jose,
I placed my Cerbo in the space behind the main battery switches and mounted it using DIN 35 mm rails. I placed this as well as two relays for starting the generator based on SOC and commands from the Cerbo. I also used the GX display which is hardwired and mounted that to the face of the bookshelf right behind the navigation seat.
The Ruuvi discs are mounted in the freezers and refrigerators using the 3M command strips with Velcro on one side so I can easily pull them to update firmware and more importantly, change out the batteries.
I’m attaching some screenshots of the install on Aventura. Disregard the actual temperatures since she is sleeping for the winter and I haven’t turned on the systems so those are ambient temperatures.

Thanks, Doug Smith

Amel 54-113, Aventura
Dugsmith98@...

On Feb 25, 2022, at 7:18 PM, Jose Venegas via groups.io <josegvenegas@...> wrote:

Dough

Great to hear that you found them easy to install. I was also thinking about buying some and monitor them with the Victron Cerbo GX as you are doing.
Where did you mount the Cerbo and how far from it are the sensors?
I found that the Cerbo blue tooth signal is rather weak.

Jose Venegas
Ipanema SM2K 278
Currently in San Andres Colombia





Re: Endless rope loops

Chuck_Kim_Joy
 

Hi David,
What mm are you finding that will cover most replacements or are you matching mm to load very specifically. 

All the best,
Chuck 
Joy 388

On Sat, Feb 26, 2022 at 6:37 PM David Vogel <david.vogel@...> wrote:

Greets,

 

Are you referring to “soft shackles”?

 

If so, you can buy these at a chandlery, or go to a rigger / sail-maker, and get them made up to spec.  We are in the process of replacing all met-to-metal shackle with soft shackles.

 

Best,

 

David

SM#396, Perigee

 

 

From: <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...>
Organisation: FGPS
Reply to: <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Date: Sunday, 27 February 2022 at 11:33 am
To: <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Endless rope loops

 

Hi All,

 

Many of the “endless rope loops” – I don’t know what the technical term is – that secure e.g. the mizzen sheet block to the boom, amongst a number of other things, look to be in need of replacement. I was wondering if anyone can recommend a suitable alternative to these as I know that to make them in situ as would be required requires some expertise which I do not have and cannot see gaining anytime soon.

 

Cheers,

Paul

 

Paul Dowd & Sharon Brown

S/Y Ya Fohi, Amel 54 #98
tel: +44 (0)7710 466619

skype: pauldowd
web:
https://my.yb.tl/yafohi

 


--
Cheers
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

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