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Re: Looking fir Resources in Ft Lauderdale

Bill Kinney
 

Tony,  

For sail maintenance we have had good results from the local North Sail loft.  They will come to the boat and remove the sails, and reinstall them when complete.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Le Marin, Martinique 
locked Re: Engine troubles in Sardegna

Kimberly Bunch
 

Thanks Danny. That's a good product to have in case you need it. We'll probably try for a longer term solution first, but may have to do what you have suggested.

Cheers,
Kimberly SV Kujira Maramu #98
Sardegna
locked Re: Engine troubles in Sardegna

Kimberly Bunch
 

Thanks James!
We now suppose the serial number was written incorrectly or we read it wrong. And that the V is actually a U for United Kingdom 🤣

Unfortunately I think the parts 4 engines does not have the pump with the correct spacing between the bolts...we have heard good things about the company from our friends also.

Thanks for all the tips. We'll try everything we can! And we'll try to get in touch with Umberto. Hope he can help us.

Cheers,

Kimberly
SV Kujira Maramu #98
Sardegna
Re: Saloon 9eh Climma Air Conditioner replacement

Ian Townsend
 

We installed a 10K Webasto in that space. Fits fine.





-------- Original message --------
From: Eric Freedman <kimberlite.ef@...>
Date: 2022-06-07 3:19 p.m. (GMT-05:00)
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Saloon 9eh Climma Air Conditioner replacement

Hi Mark,

Did this unit fit under the saloon seat?

I measure 12 inches this unit seems to be 13 inches high.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io On Behalf Of Mark Erdos
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2022 11:00 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Saloon 9eh Climma Air Conditioner replacement

 

Hi Eric,

Hope all is well.

As my Climma units die, I have been replacing them with Webasto FCF Platinum units. I am very happy with these. My oldest Webasto unit is 2 years old. The plumbing for seawater is the same size and the units are plug and play. It includes the control panel, so this is an additional savings. The units appear to be well-made.

One of the key selling points for me was the cooling water requirements (GPH). It is much lower than Dometic requirements and as you know the Amel moves the same water through all 3 units, so it is good not to have a finicky unit that will shut down. Also, they are less expensive.

https://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1&id=3050595

Hope this helps.

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff

www.creampuff.us

 

On 6/6/2022 3:44 PM, Eric Freedman wrote:

Has anyone replaced the Climma compact 9eh unit in the saloon?

I replaced the aft cabin one with a Dometic, but it will not fit under the seat in the saloon.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 
Re: Saloon 9eh Climma Air Conditioner replacement

Bill Kinney
 

We found the height restriction made a it a challenge finding one to fit.   We went with a 9k reverse cycle unit by Mermaid Manufacturing that just fits. 

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Le Marin, Martiniquec
Collisions at sea

Paul Harries
 

Yet another headache for sailors.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/hyundai-tanker-just-became-first-193000380.html

--
Paul Harries
Prospective Amel Buyer
locked Re: Engine troubles in Sardegna

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Kimberly, a get you going for the moment fix would be hand moldable epoxy. I used it on the exhaust elbow on a previous yacht when I was on an ocean passage. It lasted well. The product I used was emerkit. It will even adhere to wet or underwater surfaces, wood, epoxy or metal. I wont go to sea without it aboard.
Kind Regards
Danny
SM 299
Ocean Pearl

On 08/06/2022 01:08 Kimberly Bunch via groups.io <kimberlybunch@...> wrote:


Thank you Danny for your reply. We did check that it wasn't any of the hoses or clips, etc first.

We've found a hole in the fresh water pump ( see photo below) and now it's a struggle to get the nuts and bolts off to remove it. We're in the process of trying to find a replacement pump of the right model. What should be easy is made complicated by the fact that it's 40 years old, the nuts are rusty and we've tried heating them, WD40 and brute force. Only a couple of them have budged...

Re: Saloon 9eh Climma Air Conditioner replacement

Eric Freedman
 

Hi Mark,

Did this unit fit under the saloon seat?

I measure 12 inches this unit seems to be 13 inches high.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io On Behalf Of Mark Erdos
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2022 11:00 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Saloon 9eh Climma Air Conditioner replacement

 

Hi Eric,

Hope all is well.

As my Climma units die, I have been replacing them with Webasto FCF Platinum units. I am very happy with these. My oldest Webasto unit is 2 years old. The plumbing for seawater is the same size and the units are plug and play. It includes the control panel, so this is an additional savings. The units appear to be well-made.

One of the key selling points for me was the cooling water requirements (GPH). It is much lower than Dometic requirements and as you know the Amel moves the same water through all 3 units, so it is good not to have a finicky unit that will shut down. Also, they are less expensive.

https://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1&id=3050595

Hope this helps.

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff

www.creampuff.us

 

On 6/6/2022 3:44 PM, Eric Freedman wrote:

Has anyone replaced the Climma compact 9eh unit in the saloon?

I replaced the aft cabin one with a Dometic, but it will not fit under the seat in the saloon.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 
Re: A54 Furler wiring

Arno Luijten
 

As reported earlier on this forum, I had one going up in smoke quite literary crossing the ocean. Not a great experience as the guest cabin was full of smoke that smelled terrible. Typically the smell of (bromate) flame retarders. So on itself that was good or else we would have a fire on board. But it was a scary experience.
I removed the device (the Boom version) and cleaned up after it. It kept smelling for days. I put in a 50A megafuse instead (Not the 100A that was tied to the cables there!) and that has worked fine since although I’m very careful using the outhaul. The device is a current limiter with auto-reset function, using semiconductors (solid state). Useful to avoid burning out your furling motors. The furler motors are apparently around 450 Watts each, drawing less then 20A, but probable with higher startup current. I’m planning to ask Amel what to do about this once I’m in France. The blow-out may have to to with changing to Lithium batteries that have less voltage drop at high loads.
There must be better versions of these devices. They seem to be custom made given the lack of identification on them.

Regards,
Arno Luijten
A54-121
 
locked Re: Engine troubles in Sardegna

James Alton
 

Kimberly,

  The Perkins engine was a pretty popular engine but I did not know that some were some manufactured in Pakistan.  

  My contact in Arbatax is Umberto at the Reiulta yard. If you contact him, let him know that you have been in contact with James and Joann SV Sueno,  We stored with Umberto for years and found him to be  honest and fair.  Getting parts in Sardinia did prove to be a bit difficult unfortunately. If I can help further let me know.

James Alton
SV Sueno
Maramu #220


-----Original Message-----
From: Kimberly Bunch via groups.io <kimberlybunch@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Tue, Jun 7, 2022 4:16 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Mayday! Engine troubles in Sardegna

Thanks James for your help also! Here is the info on our engine... It's actually made in Pakistan! Surprising!

serial number GA00270V38990G.. So  GA=4.154, V=Pakistan, G=1980

Thanks also for reminding us to check the pump we order will come with a gasket. Nothing worse than a missing gasket!

We'd really appreciate your contact info in Arbatax. 

Thanks again,

Kimberly

locked Re: Engine troubles in Sardegna

James Alton
 

Kimberly,

   Parts for engines,  (parts4engines.com) has the freshwater pump in stock for 95 pounds.  They have been quick to ship items to me.  I ordered a gasket set yesterday for my series 200 Perkins and it shipped today.  Wire brush off the paint and rust on the stubs for the water pump and soak with PB Blaster or whatever penetrating oil that you can get ahold of.  Tap on the nuts respray and be patient.  The heat will help draw the penetrating oil in. The hole in the water pump is a drain hole and needs to be left open.  When the seals are good there is no leakage out of the hole.  Unfortunately once the seals fail the water pump bearings tend to fail in fairly short order so you need to get this fixed.  

Best of luck,

James Alton
SV Sueno
Maramu #220


-----Original Message-----
From: Kimberly Bunch via groups.io <kimberlybunch@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Tue, Jun 7, 2022 4:08 pm
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Mayday! Engine troubles in Sardegna

Thank you Danny for your reply. We did check that it wasn't any of the hoses or clips, etc first.

We've found a hole in the fresh water pump ( see photo below) and now it's a struggle to get the nuts and bolts off to remove it. We're in the process of trying to find a replacement pump of the right model. What should be easy is made complicated by the fact that it's 40 years old, the nuts are rusty and we've tried heating them, WD40 and brute force. Only a couple of them have budged...
Re: A54 Furler wiring

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Thanks Nick.

Respectfully;


Mohammad Shirloo
+1-323-633-2222 Cell
+1-424-644-0908 Fax
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Nick Newington via groups.io <ngtnewington@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2022 5:47:15 PM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] A54 Furler wiring
 
Hi Mohammad,
Look back to a thread from 18/05/2022 about Thermal Overload Protectors fitted on some 54’s but not my hull 019.

It is illuminating..

Kind regards

Nick 

S/Y Amelia
Turkey
AML54-019


On 7 Jun 2022, at 17:47, Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...> wrote:


Thank you

Respectfully;


Mohammad Shirloo
+1-323-633-2222 Cell
+1-424-644-0908 Fax
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Ruslan Osmonov via groups.io <rosmonov@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2022 2:26:31 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] A54 Furler wiring
 
Hi Mohammad, I believe those are heat protectors. 

Take a look at this thread. 
https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/main/topic/91136114#63435


--
Fair winds
Ruslan Osmonov
Phanthom, A54 #44

Re: A54 Furler wiring

Nick Newington
 

Hi Mohammad,
Look back to a thread from 18/05/2022 about Thermal Overload Protectors fitted on some 54’s but not my hull 019.

It is illuminating..

Kind regards

Nick 

S/Y Amelia
Turkey
AML54-019


On 7 Jun 2022, at 17:47, Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...> wrote:


Thank you

Respectfully;


Mohammad Shirloo
+1-323-633-2222 Cell
+1-424-644-0908 Fax
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Ruslan Osmonov via groups.io <rosmonov@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2022 2:26:31 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] A54 Furler wiring
 
Hi Mohammad, I believe those are heat protectors. 

Take a look at this thread. 
https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/main/topic/91136114#63435


--
Fair winds
Ruslan Osmonov
Phanthom, A54 #44

Re: SM Genoa Furler question

CW Bill Rouse
 

Thanks to all who participated. 

BTW, The last generation of the Genoa furler was used on the SN & SM. It seems that the consensus of opinion is that these are not really needed.


image.png


CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   


On Tue, Jun 7, 2022 at 9:24 AM Ian Park <parkianj@...> wrote:
Bill
Photos of Santorin forestay bush.


27 mm and 37 mm with a 10 mm forestay

Best wishes

Ian
Re: A54 Furler wiring

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Thank you

Respectfully;


Mohammad Shirloo
+1-323-633-2222 Cell
+1-424-644-0908 Fax
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Ruslan Osmonov via groups.io <rosmonov@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2022 2:26:31 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] A54 Furler wiring
 
Hi Mohammad, I believe those are heat protectors. 

Take a look at this thread. 
https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/main/topic/91136114#63435


--
Fair winds
Ruslan Osmonov
Phanthom, A54 #44

Re: SM Genoa Furler question

Ian Park
 

Bill
Photos of Santorin forestay bush.


27 mm and 37 mm with a 10 mm forestay

Best wishes

Ian
Re: A54 Black Water tank hoses replacement

Craig Briggs
 

Hi Rusian,
Yes, all black water hose will become permeated with bad smells after time and you clearly do not need to replace the ball valve.

A much better option, and what I did many years ago, is replace all the hose sections with PVC pipe. It completely eliminates all odors forever. Use rubber couplings to connect the PVC to the through-hull and tank, which eliminates any vibration issues and makes installation a snap. The rubber couplings come in all sizes you might need, from straight and reducing couplings to "Y" connectors (it looks like you would only need two straight couplings for your fix). "FERNCO" seems a major supplier and Amazon has a full line of several brands. For other than straight runs, you can assemble PVC components ("Y"s, "T"s, Elbows, etc) as needed and then use the rubber couplings at the ends as needed. 

After many years, if the flow is decreased by salts building up in the pipes (just as it does inside of hoses), it is a simple task to disconnect the PVC sections, clean the salts out with acid and reassemble.
-
Fair and sweet smelling winds, -
Craig Briggs - s/v Sangaris / SN68  Tropic Isle Harbor, FL
Re: SM Genoa Furler question

CW Bill Rouse
 

Kent,

Thanks.

Bill


CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   


On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 7:40 PM karkauai via groups.io <karkauai=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Kristy had not had those bushings since I got her 12 years ago.  There seem to be no oscillations nor I'll effects on the swage or cable.
--
Kent & Iris
KRISTY
SM243
locked Re: Engine troubles in Sardegna

Kimberly Bunch
 

Thanks James for your help also! Here is the info on our engine... It's actually made in Pakistan! Surprising!

serial number GA00270V38990G.. So  GA=4.154, V=Pakistan, G=1980

Thanks also for reminding us to check the pump we order will come with a gasket. Nothing worse than a missing gasket!

We'd really appreciate your contact info in Arbatax. 

Thanks again,

Kimberly
locked Re: Engine troubles in Sardegna

Kimberly Bunch
 

Thank you Danny for your reply. We did check that it wasn't any of the hoses or clips, etc first.

We've found a hole in the fresh water pump ( see photo below) and now it's a struggle to get the nuts and bolts off to remove it. We're in the process of trying to find a replacement pump of the right model. What should be easy is made complicated by the fact that it's 40 years old, the nuts are rusty and we've tried heating them, WD40 and brute force. Only a couple of them have budged...
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