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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Wearing out bearing

Bill Kinney <greatketch@...>
 

Yes, you need two speedi-sleeves.

You put on one, all the way to the shoulder, then put the second one on.  Be gentle with the 2nd one. If you are over ambitious in installation of the second one it is possible to overlap them. Other than ripping off the second one and starting over there is no good way to fix it if you go too far.  A little overlap isn’t a disaster, it occurs in a place where the seal  lips do not bear.

The total width of the seal bearing surface on a wearing-out-bearing is from the shoulder to the chamfer is…. (surprise!) 28 mm.  So two speedi-sleeves is a perfect fit.

Bill Kinney
SM #160, Harmonie
On the Hard, Fort Lauderdale, FL
“Ships and men rot in port."






On Dec 1, 2016, at 21:43, sonsev52@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Bill

Speedi-sleeves are only 14 mm long. One sleave can work only with 2 seals. We have 3 seals. Do you install 2 SpeedI-sleeves?
If you install 2 sleeves, then how do you do that?



Changing companionway veneer.

sailormon <kimberlite@...>
 

James,

You do not have to remove the sliding companionway or the hard dodger to replace the veneer.

If you send me your email I will send you photos of how I did mine.

Basically you remove the stop at the bottom of the companionway door . Then the door will slide all the way up to the dodger.

You can then use a router to remove the veneer and put new veneer on. Of course what is in the track cannot be changed, but you can’t see it.

Mine looks beautiful after 5 or 6 years.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 3:12 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Maramu cockpit canopy

 

 

Eric,

 

   The exterior teak veneer has delaminated and I want to replace or reface the panel.   I would also like to improve the exterior seal during this project.  

 

Best,

 

James Alton

SV Sueno,  Maramu #220

Arbatax,  Italy

 

On Dec 1, 2016, at 3:46 PM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

James,

Why are you removing the companionway slider?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:a melyachtowners@...] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 10:31 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Maramu cockpit canopy

 

  

 


vetus coupling number--Kent?

sailormon <kimberlite@...>
 

Hi,

Does anyone know the part number of the Vetus engine coupling for the Yanmar 4jh3 engine?

There seems to be 3 shaft sizes on the Vetus website and they all have keyways. Did Amel use the keyway?

I need to make an aluminum disk the same size as the coupling to align the engine.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 9:26 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Strange Battery charging…

 

 

Hi Alex. If they are flooded lead acid batteries I'd bet they need desulphation. Typical symptoms. Seem to charge quickly with low input and then lose charge quickly

 I'm on ocean pearl doing hers right now.

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

 

 

 

Alex,

I think I told you to check out DC Battery in Miami because they had an efficient method of delivering all over the Caribbean and you could not find GRP 31 batteries in PR.

However, you are now in Tortola. I would research what is available in Tortola ans St Thomas.

There is probably no doubt that you are beyond the replacement date of your batteries and your charger is cooking the batteries. Your charger is reading the internal shorts and resistance in those batteries and interpreting it as the batteries need more amps and the charger is delivering them.

Since you are connected to shore power, all you need is two good 12VDC batteries connected in series = 24VVDC. And you do not need a starting battery.  Use a digital tester to find 2 good batteries out of the 9 you have then connect them in series to the house bank. Use your smallest charger and ASAP find NEW batteries.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

 

On Dec 1, 2016 5:27 PM, "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Good afternoon Bill,

7 weeks ago in San Juan, I checked the batteries (with the tester you recommended), all except for 2 were bad.
I check the acidity and (to me) it look like 2 were shots… the rest ok.

Unfortunately DC Battery (which you recommended and would recommend to anyone), couldn’t deliver on time (before I left San Juan).
Now that that I get the emigration extension I can order the batteries from them and receive them in 3 weeks.

Going to check tomorrow if one of more is warm.

In the event I am cooking the batteries, is the boat at risk? Fire, etc. ?
I could disconnect them and set the battery charger in power supply mode.

As always thanks so much for your help!..
Always learning…

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Harbor View Marina, Tortola, BVI

------------------------------ --------------
On Thu, 12/1/16, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups. com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Strange Battery charging…
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups. com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups. com>
Date: Thursday, December 1, 2016, 2:58 PM


 









Alex,
You need to get your batteries
checked before jumping to any other
conclusions.
Be sure
they are checked with a digital battery check instrument. My
guess is that you have one or more batteries with an
internal short.
Be
careful that you do not "cook" your battery
bank...sounds like you are getting close.
Open it up and touch the
batteries...if any of them feel warm or hot, that is
probably the problem battery...BUT...surely someone in
Tortola has a digital battery checker where they will
provide you a printout for each battery.
BillBeBe
387St. John
On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 8:31
PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups. com>
wrote:















 









Good afternoon,



During the 3 days power outage in Puerto Rico, I noted my
batteries were getting weak…

Would not fully recharge.

Accidentally, I reset the Link 10… but it kept the
setting, just now showing 100% instead of the 90%.



Due to the lack of wind, I mostly motor to Tortola, then
drift for 6 hours to wait for customs and emigration to
open, again I noted the batteries were weak (freezer
compressor stop).



I have now been at the marina for a month, and something
very strange is happening:



The first week, instead to get the usual charge of 0.2
amp/hour on the Link 10, I had 1 Amp hour.

The second week, was over 2 amp/hour charge

The 3rd week, I had 3 Amp/hour charge.

I thought my 40 Amp battery charger could have an issue, so
switch to the 60 Amp and still higher charge.

Now I am showing 8 Amp/hour charge ?!?

So the 100% has been reach for 3 weeks and is showing an
excess of 470 Amp (above my 100%) which is not possible as
my battery bank is only 400 Amp (8 batteries 100 amp each, 4
x 2 in series).



I wish it could be true…

Any idea?

This weekend, going to go back to the smaller charger to see
what it charges.



Thanks in advance



Sincerely, Alexandre

SM2K #289 NIKIMAT

Harbor View Marina, Tortola, BVI

































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Re: Wearing out bearing

VLADIMIR SONSEV
 

Bill

Speedi-sleeves are only 14 mm long. One sleave can work only with 2 seals. We have 3 seals. Do you install 2 SpeedI-sleeves?
If you install 2 sleeves, then how do you do that?


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Strange Battery charging…

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Alex. If they are flooded lead acid batteries I'd bet they need desulphation. Typical symptoms. Seem to charge quickly with low input and then lose charge quickly
 I'm on ocean pearl doing hers right now.
Regards
Danny
SM 299
Ocean Pearl


On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 11:03, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]
wrote:
 

Alex,

I think I told you to check out DC Battery in Miami because they had an efficient method of delivering all over the Caribbean and you could not find GRP 31 batteries in PR.

However, you are now in Tortola. I would research what is available in Tortola ans St Thomas.

There is probably no doubt that you are beyond the replacement date of your batteries and your charger is cooking the batteries. Your charger is reading the internal shorts and resistance in those batteries and interpreting it as the batteries need more amps and the charger is delivering them.

Since you are connected to shore power, all you need is two good 12VDC batteries connected in series = 24VVDC. And you do not need a starting battery.  Use a digital tester to find 2 good batteries out of the 9 you have then connect them in series to the house bank. Use your smallest charger and ASAP find NEW batteries.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail


On Dec 1, 2016 5:27 PM, "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Good afternoon Bill,

7 weeks ago in San Juan, I checked the batteries (with the tester you recommended), all except for 2 were bad.
I check the acidity and (to me) it look like 2 were shots… the rest ok.

Unfortunately DC Battery (which you recommended and would recommend to anyone), couldn’t deliver on time (before I left San Juan).
Now that that I get the emigration extension I can order the batteries from them and receive them in 3 weeks.

Going to check tomorrow if one of more is warm.

In the event I am cooking the batteries, is the boat at risk? Fire, etc. ?
I could disconnect them and set the battery charger in power supply mode.

As always thanks so much for your help!..
Always learning…

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Harbor View Marina, Tortola, BVI

------------------------------ --------------
On Thu, 12/1/16, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups. com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Strange Battery charging…
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups. com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups. com>
Date: Thursday, December 1, 2016, 2:58 PM


 









Alex,
You need to get your batteries
checked before jumping to any other
conclusions.
Be sure
they are checked with a digital battery check instrument. My
guess is that you have one or more batteries with an
internal short.
Be
careful that you do not "cook" your battery
bank...sounds like you are getting close.
Open it up and touch the
batteries...if any of them feel warm or hot, that is
probably the problem battery...BUT...surely someone in
Tortola has a digital battery checker where they will
provide you a printout for each battery.
BillBeBe
387St. John
On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 8:31
PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups. com>
wrote:















 









Good afternoon,



During the 3 days power outage in Puerto Rico, I noted my
batteries were getting weak…

Would not fully recharge.

Accidentally, I reset the Link 10… but it kept the
setting, just now showing 100% instead of the 90%.



Due to the lack of wind, I mostly motor to Tortola, then
drift for 6 hours to wait for customs and emigration to
open, again I noted the batteries were weak (freezer
compressor stop).



I have now been at the marina for a month, and something
very strange is happening:



The first week, instead to get the usual charge of 0.2
amp/hour on the Link 10, I had 1 Amp hour.

The second week, was over 2 amp/hour charge

The 3rd week, I had 3 Amp/hour charge.

I thought my 40 Amp battery charger could have an issue, so
switch to the 60 Amp and still higher charge.

Now I am showing 8 Amp/hour charge ?!?

So the 100% has been reach for 3 weeks and is showing an
excess of 470 Amp (above my 100%) which is not possible as
my battery bank is only 400 Amp (8 batteries 100 amp each, 4
x 2 in series).



I wish it could be true…

Any idea?

This weekend, going to go back to the smaller charger to see
what it charges.



Thanks in advance



Sincerely, Alexandre

SM2K #289 NIKIMAT

Harbor View Marina, Tortola, BVI

































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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Strange Battery charging…

James Alton
 

Alex,

   Bill’s suggestion sounds on target to me.  The additional amperage that is being put into your dying batteries is mostly going into heat + making hydrogen, so not good.  I don’t know the supply situation for batteries in your area but wanted to mention that if I were in your situation and could not quickly come up with at least two good batteries out of your old bank, I would look into buying whatever I could find locally that would fit and use those until the new batteries came in.   Regular car batteries will have a short life in this application but are cheap and would give you the means to start the engine if needed plus eliminate the risk of charging batteries that should not be in the boat.

Best,

James Alton
SV Sueno,  Maramu #220
Arbatax,  Italy

On Dec 1, 2016, at 8:02 PM, Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


There is , or at least there was a large battery supplier in St. Thomas near the sub base. I bought batteries there about 15 years ago and they had a large inventory . I can't remember the name , ask around.
Pat SM#123


-----Original Message-----
From: 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Thu, Dec 1, 2016 5:03 pm
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Strange Battery charging…

 
Alex,
I think I told you to check out DC Battery in Miami because they had an efficient method of delivering all over the Caribbean and you could not find GRP 31 batteries in PR.
However, you are now in Tortola. I would research what is available in Tortola ans St Thomas.
There is probably no doubt that you are beyond the replacement date of your batteries and your charger is cooking the batteries. Your charger is reading the internal shorts and resistance in those batteries and interpreting it as the batteries need more amps and the charger is delivering them. 
Since you are connected to shore power, all you need is two good 12VDC batteries connected in series = 24VVDC. And you do not need a starting battery.  Use a digital tester to find 2 good batteries out of the 9 you have then connect them in series to the house bank. Use your smallest charger and ASAP find NEW batteries.
Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On Dec 1, 2016 5:27 PM, "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
Good afternoon Bill, 

7 weeks ago in San Juan, I checked the batteries (with the tester you recommended), all except for 2 were bad.  
I check the acidity and (to me) it look like 2 were shots… the rest ok.  

Unfortunately DC Battery (which you recommended and would recommend to anyone), couldn’t deliver on time (before I left San Juan). 
Now that that I get the emigration extension I can order the batteries from them and receive them in 3 weeks.  

Going to check tomorrow if one of more is warm.  

In the event I am cooking the batteries, is the boat at risk? Fire, etc. ?  
I could disconnect them and set the battery charger in power supply mode.  

As always thanks so much for your help!.. 
Always learning…

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Harbor View Marina, Tortola, BVI

--------------------------------------------
On Thu, 12/1/16, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Strange Battery charging…
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, December 1, 2016, 2:58 PM


 









Alex,
You need to get your batteries
checked before jumping to any other
conclusions.
Be sure
they are checked with a digital battery check instrument. My
guess is that you have one or more batteries with an
internal short.
Be
careful that you do not "cook" your battery
bank...sounds like you are getting close.
Open it up and touch the
batteries...if any of them feel warm or hot, that is
probably the problem battery...BUT...surely someone in
Tortola has a digital battery checker where they will
provide you a printout for each battery.
BillBeBe
387St. John
On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 8:31
PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:















 









Good afternoon, 



During the 3 days power outage in Puerto Rico, I noted my
batteries were getting weak…  

Would not fully recharge.  

Accidentally, I reset the Link 10… but it kept the
setting, just now showing 100% instead of the 90%.  



Due to the lack of wind, I mostly motor to Tortola, then
drift for 6 hours to wait for customs and emigration to
open, again I noted the batteries were weak (freezer
compressor stop).  



I have now been at the marina for a month, and something
very strange is happening:  



The first week, instead to get the usual charge of 0.2
amp/hour on the Link 10, I had 1 Amp hour.

The second week, was over 2 amp/hour charge

The 3rd week, I had 3 Amp/hour charge.  

I thought my 40 Amp battery charger could have an issue, so
switch to the 60 Amp and still higher charge.  

Now I am showing 8 Amp/hour charge ?!?  

So the 100% has been reach for 3 weeks and is showing an
excess of 470 Amp (above my 100%) which is not possible as
my battery bank is only 400 Amp (8 batteries 100 amp each, 4
x 2 in series).  



I wish it could be true…  

Any idea?  

This weekend, going to go back to the smaller charger to see
what it charges.  



Thanks in advance



Sincerely, Alexandre

SM2K #289 NIKIMAT

Harbor View Marina, Tortola, BVI

































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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Maramu cockpit canopy

James Alton
 

Craig,

   Yes, that would be a good way to bring more light down below for sure. Given our plans for Sueno,  I am currently more concerned however with the integrity/strength of the slider and was thinking of a painted high strength composite material in the event that I replace it.  I realize that the companionway on the Amel is quite protected but it is still a potentially very large hole low in the cockpit.  

    Perhaps a removable upper panel for the slider could be fabricated if one wanted more light down below but could be removed and the slider raised fully when required.  

Best,

James Alton
SV Sueno,  Maramu #220
Arbatax,  Italy

On Dec 1, 2016, at 7:32 PM, sangaris@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

James,

You might consider replacing it with a lightly tinted plexiglass.  It was a tremendous improvement bringing light down below. If interested, send me a pm and I'll send some details.
Cheers,
Craig Briggs, SN#68 Sangaris



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Strange Battery charging…

Patrick McAneny
 

There is , or at least there was a large battery supplier in St. Thomas near the sub base. I bought batteries there about 15 years ago and they had a large inventory . I can't remember the name , ask around.
Pat SM#123


-----Original Message-----
From: 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Thu, Dec 1, 2016 5:03 pm
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Strange Battery charging…

 
Alex,
I think I told you to check out DC Battery in Miami because they had an efficient method of delivering all over the Caribbean and you could not find GRP 31 batteries in PR.
However, you are now in Tortola. I would research what is available in Tortola ans St Thomas.
There is probably no doubt that you are beyond the replacement date of your batteries and your charger is cooking the batteries. Your charger is reading the internal shorts and resistance in those batteries and interpreting it as the batteries need more amps and the charger is delivering them.
Since you are connected to shore power, all you need is two good 12VDC batteries connected in series = 24VVDC. And you do not need a starting battery.  Use a digital tester to find 2 good batteries out of the 9 you have then connect them in series to the house bank. Use your smallest charger and ASAP find NEW batteries.
Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On Dec 1, 2016 5:27 PM, "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
Good afternoon Bill,

7 weeks ago in San Juan, I checked the batteries (with the tester you recommended), all except for 2 were bad.
I check the acidity and (to me) it look like 2 were shots… the rest ok.

Unfortunately DC Battery (which you recommended and would recommend to anyone), couldn’t deliver on time (before I left San Juan).
Now that that I get the emigration extension I can order the batteries from them and receive them in 3 weeks.

Going to check tomorrow if one of more is warm.

In the event I am cooking the batteries, is the boat at risk? Fire, etc. ?
I could disconnect them and set the battery charger in power supply mode.

As always thanks so much for your help!..
Always learning…

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Harbor View Marina, Tortola, BVI

--------------------------------------------
On Thu, 12/1/16, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Strange Battery charging…
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, December 1, 2016, 2:58 PM


 









Alex,
You need to get your batteries
checked before jumping to any other
conclusions.
Be sure
they are checked with a digital battery check instrument. My
guess is that you have one or more batteries with an
internal short.
Be
careful that you do not "cook" your battery
bank...sounds like you are getting close.
Open it up and touch the
batteries...if any of them feel warm or hot, that is
probably the problem battery...BUT...surely someone in
Tortola has a digital battery checker where they will
provide you a printout for each battery.
BillBeBe
387St. John
On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 8:31
PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:















 









Good afternoon,



During the 3 days power outage in Puerto Rico, I noted my
batteries were getting weak…

Would not fully recharge.

Accidentally, I reset the Link 10… but it kept the
setting, just now showing 100% instead of the 90%.



Due to the lack of wind, I mostly motor to Tortola, then
drift for 6 hours to wait for customs and emigration to
open, again I noted the batteries were weak (freezer
compressor stop).



I have now been at the marina for a month, and something
very strange is happening:



The first week, instead to get the usual charge of 0.2
amp/hour on the Link 10, I had 1 Amp hour.

The second week, was over 2 amp/hour charge

The 3rd week, I had 3 Amp/hour charge.

I thought my 40 Amp battery charger could have an issue, so
switch to the 60 Amp and still higher charge.

Now I am showing 8 Amp/hour charge ?!?

So the 100% has been reach for 3 weeks and is showing an
excess of 470 Amp (above my 100%) which is not possible as
my battery bank is only 400 Amp (8 batteries 100 amp each, 4
x 2 in series).



I wish it could be true…

Any idea?

This weekend, going to go back to the smaller charger to see
what it charges.



Thanks in advance



Sincerely, Alexandre

SM2K #289 NIKIMAT

Harbor View Marina, Tortola, BVI

































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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Maramu cockpit canopy

Craig Briggs
 

James,
You might consider replacing it with a lightly tinted plexiglass.  It was a tremendous improvement bringing light down below. If interested, send me a pm and I'll send some details.
Cheers,
Craig Briggs, SN#68 Sangaris


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Strange Battery charging…

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Alex,

I think I told you to check out DC Battery in Miami because they had an efficient method of delivering all over the Caribbean and you could not find GRP 31 batteries in PR.

However, you are now in Tortola. I would research what is available in Tortola ans St Thomas.

There is probably no doubt that you are beyond the replacement date of your batteries and your charger is cooking the batteries. Your charger is reading the internal shorts and resistance in those batteries and interpreting it as the batteries need more amps and the charger is delivering them.

Since you are connected to shore power, all you need is two good 12VDC batteries connected in series = 24VVDC. And you do not need a starting battery.  Use a digital tester to find 2 good batteries out of the 9 you have then connect them in series to the house bank. Use your smallest charger and ASAP find NEW batteries.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail


On Dec 1, 2016 5:27 PM, "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Good afternoon Bill,

7 weeks ago in San Juan, I checked the batteries (with the tester you recommended), all except for 2 were bad.
I check the acidity and (to me) it look like 2 were shots… the rest ok.

Unfortunately DC Battery (which you recommended and would recommend to anyone), couldn’t deliver on time (before I left San Juan).
Now that that I get the emigration extension I can order the batteries from them and receive them in 3 weeks.

Going to check tomorrow if one of more is warm.

In the event I am cooking the batteries, is the boat at risk? Fire, etc. ?
I could disconnect them and set the battery charger in power supply mode.

As always thanks so much for your help!..
Always learning…

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Harbor View Marina, Tortola, BVI

--------------------------------------------
On Thu, 12/1/16, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Strange Battery charging…
To: "amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thursday, December 1, 2016, 2:58 PM


 









Alex,
You need to get your batteries
checked before jumping to any other
conclusions.
Be sure
they are checked with a digital battery check instrument. My
guess is that you have one or more batteries with an
internal short.
Be
careful that you do not "cook" your battery
bank...sounds like you are getting close.
Open it up and touch the
batteries...if any of them feel warm or hot, that is
probably the problem battery...BUT...surely someone in
Tortola has a digital battery checker where they will
provide you a printout for each battery.
BillBeBe
387St. John
On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 8:31
PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:















 









Good afternoon,



During the 3 days power outage in Puerto Rico, I noted my
batteries were getting weak…

Would not fully recharge.

Accidentally, I reset the Link 10… but it kept the
setting, just now showing 100% instead of the 90%.



Due to the lack of wind, I mostly motor to Tortola, then
drift for 6 hours to wait for customs and emigration to
open, again I noted the batteries were weak (freezer
compressor stop).



I have now been at the marina for a month, and something
very strange is happening:



The first week, instead to get the usual charge of 0.2
amp/hour on the Link 10, I had 1 Amp hour.

The second week, was over 2 amp/hour charge

The 3rd week, I had 3 Amp/hour charge.

I thought my 40 Amp battery charger could have an issue, so
switch to the 60 Amp and still higher charge.

Now I am showing 8 Amp/hour charge ?!?

So the 100% has been reach for 3 weeks and is showing an
excess of 470 Amp (above my 100%) which is not possible as
my battery bank is only 400 Amp (8 batteries 100 amp each, 4
x 2 in series).



I wish it could be true…

Any idea?

This weekend, going to go back to the smaller charger to see
what it charges.



Thanks in advance



Sincerely, Alexandre

SM2K #289 NIKIMAT

Harbor View Marina, Tortola, BVI

































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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Strange Battery charging…

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good afternoon Bill,

7 weeks ago in San Juan, I checked the batteries (with the tester you recommended), all except for 2 were bad.
I check the acidity and (to me) it look like 2 were shots… the rest ok.

Unfortunately DC Battery (which you recommended and would recommend to anyone), couldn’t deliver on time (before I left San Juan).
Now that that I get the emigration extension I can order the batteries from them and receive them in 3 weeks.

Going to check tomorrow if one of more is warm.

In the event I am cooking the batteries, is the boat at risk? Fire, etc. ?
I could disconnect them and set the battery charger in power supply mode.

As always thanks so much for your help!..
Always learning…

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Harbor View Marina, Tortola, BVI



--------------------------------------------

On Thu, 12/1/16, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Strange Battery charging…
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Thursday, December 1, 2016, 2:58 PM


 









Alex,
You need to get your batteries
checked before jumping to any other
conclusions.
Be sure
they are checked with a digital battery check instrument. My
guess is that you have one or more batteries with an
internal short.
Be
careful that you do not "cook" your battery
bank...sounds like you are getting close.
Open it up and touch the
batteries...if any of them feel warm or hot, that is
probably the problem battery...BUT...surely someone in
Tortola has a digital battery checker where they will
provide you a printout for each battery.
BillBeBe
387St. John
On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 8:31
PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:















 









Good afternoon,



During the 3 days power outage in Puerto Rico, I noted my
batteries were getting weak…

Would not fully recharge.

Accidentally, I reset the Link 10… but it kept the
setting, just now showing 100% instead of the 90%.



Due to the lack of wind, I mostly motor to Tortola, then
drift for 6 hours to wait for customs and emigration to
open, again I noted the batteries were weak (freezer
compressor stop).



I have now been at the marina for a month, and something
very strange is happening:



The first week, instead to get the usual charge of 0.2
amp/hour on the Link 10, I had 1 Amp hour.

The second week, was over 2 amp/hour charge

The 3rd week, I had 3 Amp/hour charge.

I thought my 40 Amp battery charger could have an issue, so
switch to the 60 Amp and still higher charge.

Now I am showing 8 Amp/hour charge ?!?

So the 100% has been reach for 3 weeks and is showing an
excess of 470 Amp (above my 100%) which is not possible as
my battery bank is only 400 Amp (8 batteries 100 amp each, 4
x 2 in series).



I wish it could be true…

Any idea?

This weekend, going to go back to the smaller charger to see
what it charges.



Thanks in advance



Sincerely, Alexandre

SM2K #289 NIKIMAT

Harbor View Marina, Tortola, BVI

































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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Strange Battery charging…

karkauai
 

Hi, Alex,
I think you should stop looking at the % charge and amp-hour readings to evaluate your batteries and charging routines.  I don't know why, but they are notoriously inaccurate.  Use Voltage and Amperage in or out to evaluate.

What is your 24V monitor showing as the battery voltage when they should be fully charged and the charger is running?  It should read the float voltage you have set on the charger.

When you turn off the charger and leave the fridges and other usual equipment running, what does the monitor read as -Amps  being used?  Is that typical for your boat?

What kind of batteries do you have?  How old are they? Assuming they are flooded lead acid, here's what I would do:
1. Turn off the chargers and all 24V equipment.
2.  Wait 30 min to an hour, and check your battery bank voltage with the 24v monitor.  Double check it with your multimeter at the battery bank and at the 24v lugs on the chargers.
The voltages should all be very close readings.  The -Amps on the monitor should be very low, certainly less than -1 A.
3.  If you have an electronic battery tester (as recommended by Bill R in an earlier thread), isolate each battery and test it's cranking Amps. (If they are deep cycle batteries, the may not have cranking amps listed). 
4.  While the batteries are fully charged, check the specific gravity of the battery fluid in all cells in all batteries with a bulb type tester.  If the voltage is OK, and the cranking Amps are OK, but the Specific gravity in all batteries is low, the batteries need to be desulfated (Equalization cycle on your charger).  Do you regularly equalize your batteries?
If only one or two batteries or cells have abnormal readings, you may have bad connections at the batteries, or failed/failing batteries.
If everything looks right, you probably don't have a battery or charger problem, just looking at Ahr and %Charge readings that are not an accurate reflection of your 24V system.

Let us know what you find.
Kent



Kent
Kristy
SM 243

On Dec 1, 2016, at 3:31 PM, Alexandre wrote:
Good afternoon, 

During the 3 days power outage in Puerto Rico, I noted my batteries were getting weak…
Would not fully recharge.
Accidentally, I reset the Link 10… but it kept the setting, just now showing 100% instead of the 90%.

Due to the lack of wind, I mostly motor to Tortola, then drift for 6 hours to wait for customs and emigration to open, again I noted the batteries were weak (freezer compressor stop).

I have now been at the marina for a month, and something very strange is happening:

The first week, instead to get the usual charge of 0.2 amp/hour on the Link 10, I had 1 Amp hour.
The second week, was over 2 amp/hour charge
The 3rd week, I had 3 Amp/hour charge.
I thought my 40 Amp battery charger could have an issue, so switch to the 60 Amp and still higher charge.
Now I am showing 8 Amp/hour charge ?!?
So the 100% has been reach for 3 weeks and is showing an excess of 470 Amp (above my 100%) which is not possible as my battery bank is only 400 Amp (8 batteries 100 amp each, 4 x 2 in series).

I wish it could be true…
Any idea?
This weekend, going to go back to the smaller charger to see what it charges.

Thanks in advance

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Harbor View Marina, Tortola, BVI


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Strange Battery charging…

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Alex,

You need to get your batteries checked before jumping to any other conclusions.

Be sure they are checked with a digital battery check instrument. My guess is that you have one or more batteries with an internal short.

Be careful that you do not "cook" your battery bank...sounds like you are getting close.

Open it up and touch the batteries...if any of them feel warm or hot, that is probably the problem battery...BUT...surely someone in Tortola has a digital battery checker where they will provide you a printout for each battery.

Bill
BeBe 387
St. John

On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 8:31 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Good afternoon,

During the 3 days power outage in Puerto Rico, I noted my batteries were getting weak…
Would not fully recharge.
Accidentally, I reset the Link 10… but it kept the setting, just now showing 100% instead of the 90%.

Due to the lack of wind, I mostly motor to Tortola, then drift for 6 hours to wait for customs and emigration to open, again I noted the batteries were weak (freezer compressor stop).

I have now been at the marina for a month, and something very strange is happening:

The first week, instead to get the usual charge of 0.2 amp/hour on the Link 10, I had 1 Amp hour.
The second week, was over 2 amp/hour charge
The 3rd week, I had 3 Amp/hour charge.
I thought my 40 Amp battery charger could have an issue, so switch to the 60 Amp and still higher charge.
Now I am showing 8 Amp/hour charge ?!?
So the 100% has been reach for 3 weeks and is showing an excess of 470 Amp (above my 100%) which is not possible as my battery bank is only 400 Amp (8 batteries 100 amp each, 4 x 2 in series).

I wish it could be true…
Any idea?
This weekend, going to go back to the smaller charger to see what it charges.

Thanks in advance

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Harbor View Marina, Tortola, BVI



[Amel Yacht Owners] Strange Battery charging…

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good afternoon,

During the 3 days power outage in Puerto Rico, I noted my batteries were getting weak…
Would not fully recharge.
Accidentally, I reset the Link 10… but it kept the setting, just now showing 100% instead of the 90%.

Due to the lack of wind, I mostly motor to Tortola, then drift for 6 hours to wait for customs and emigration to open, again I noted the batteries were weak (freezer compressor stop).

I have now been at the marina for a month, and something very strange is happening:

The first week, instead to get the usual charge of 0.2 amp/hour on the Link 10, I had 1 Amp hour.
The second week, was over 2 amp/hour charge
The 3rd week, I had 3 Amp/hour charge.
I thought my 40 Amp battery charger could have an issue, so switch to the 60 Amp and still higher charge.
Now I am showing 8 Amp/hour charge ?!?
So the 100% has been reach for 3 weeks and is showing an excess of 470 Amp (above my 100%) which is not possible as my battery bank is only 400 Amp (8 batteries 100 amp each, 4 x 2 in series).

I wish it could be true…
Any idea?
This weekend, going to go back to the smaller charger to see what it charges.

Thanks in advance

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Harbor View Marina, Tortola, BVI


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Maramu cockpit canopy

James Alton
 

Eric,

   The exterior teak veneer has delaminated and I want to replace or reface the panel.   I would also like to improve the exterior seal during this project.  

Best,

James Alton
SV Sueno,  Maramu #220
Arbatax,  Italy

On Dec 1, 2016, at 3:46 PM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


James,

Why are you removing the companionway slider?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:a melyachtowners@...] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 10:31 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Maramu cockpit canopy

 

  



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Maramu cockpit canopy

sailormon <kimberlite@...>
 

James,

Why are you removing the companionway slider?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 10:31 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Maramu cockpit canopy

 

 

Alex,

 

   I will be removing my dodger in the future to allow removal of the companionway slider.  It would be great to see your photos.  My email address is:  Lokiyawl2 at aol.com

 

Thanks,

 

James Alton

SV Sueno,  Maramu #220

Arbatax,  Italy

 

On Nov 29, 2016, at 4:35 PM, alex.paquin@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello Graham, send me your email to alex.paquin@... and I can share some pictures of the surfaces and the dodger removed from the boat.

Alex Paquin

S/V Simpatico

Older Maramu 1981, hull #94

 

 


Re: Maramu cockpit canopy

Alejandro Paquin
 

MARAMU DODGER REMOVAL COMMENTS

 

  •         If the caps are removed there is a risk of water accumulating and sloshing around the dodger frame

  •          There is ample room to rewire the cockpit lamp thought the center support of the dodger facing the bow

  •         We also wired speakers to the sides of the dodger and installed Jabsco connectors which tend to get dirty with copper oxide

  •         The dodger is heavy but can be lifted by two strong people. The only problem is the size and the awkward shape

  •         We removed the dodger to reapply new gelcoat, which we did on all the deck


Alex Paquin

Simpatico

Older Maramu, Hull #94, 1981


Re: Shaft alternator amel maramu

sbmesasailor
 

Hi Nezih,

I won't be back on my boat until the end of this month but I know that the pulley is just as important as the alternator.  You want to make sure that the diameter of the pulley is small enough generate sufficient rpms.  Also, the pulley on the propeller shaft of my boat is a multi-V belt, so the pulley on the alternator had to match that. Finding the right pulley for the alternator may be harder to find than the alternator.  I'm pretty sure the alternator I have is a Motorola product but I don't have the part number at this time.  I can get you the alternator part number and the diameter of the pulley the first week of January if you can wait that long.

Dennis Johns
s/v Libertad


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Shaft alternator amel maramu [1 Attachment]

nezih nezih
 

Ty very much Ian.
Best wishes.


From: Ian parkianj@... [amelyachtowners] ;
To: ;
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Shaft alternator amel maramu [1 Attachment]
Sent: Wed, Nov 30, 2016 5:53:21 PM

 
[Attachment(s) from Ian included below]

Nezih

here is a photo of the shaft alternator from my Santorin (12v). It may
be the same...

Ian

Ocean Hobo SN96


Re: Shaft alternator amel maramu

Herbert Lackner
 

This is the shaft alternator on the Santorin


Fair winds
Herbert
SN120 KALI MERA, Trinidad, launched in two hours