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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Introduction from Utah
If another boat has the amenities present on Amels, there will be the same kinds of problems, Chuck. If an autopilot or reefer or AC fails, you're going to have to go thru the same troubleshooting, parts acquisition, and repairs. Amels are French boats and are set up in European electrical style with 220v50Hz appliances and 24v motors, etc. They can be a bit harder to source than 110v60Hz or 12vDC, but this forum is great for learning where others have sourced them. The bonding system is significantly different from most other boats and electricians on this side of the pond won't understand it. They'll want you to conform to ABYC standards, and if you aren't there while they're doing something, they'll hook it up by some method other than the Amel way. That can lead to problems. Some proprietary parts are only available from Amel and expensive, but they're worth it! One of the really great things about Amels is this forum. Kristy is my first sailboat and my first big boat. I was totally clueless about how to troubleshoot or repair anything. The folks here took me by the hand and very patiently walked me thru things step by step. If it hadn't been for them I'd have given up after a few years. Now, 8 years later, I've learned to find and repair most things that go wrong. I can post a question here and get an answer in a few hours. I spent a ton of money paying mechanics and electricians to learn my boat and try to teach me, only to find out later they really didn't "get" Amels. In retrospect, I'd have been better off flying in someone like Olivier to teach me and the electrician what and why. If I can do it, anyone can. As to the KISS principle, it's up to the individual to decide how important all the different amenities are. I would find it difficult to be living aboard a boat without them. The only thing I don't use regularly is the dishwasher. Kent Kristy SM243
On Jan 12, 2017, at 4:28 PM, clacey9@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Thank you for the warm welcome Kent, I have been lurking for quite some time and have enjoyed the interactions (from afar). I have also followed a few blogs from members here. I guess the first question is: Is this type of yacht too complicated with too many intricate systems to manage. Are Amels anymore more complicated than any other comparable yacht with similar features. I have read for years of the KISS principle and agree but that also conflicts with my other want and that is to sail and liveaboard in somewhat safety and comfort. This boats checks almost all the boxes (I do have a spreadsheet and there are boxes).
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Introduction from Utah
Thank you for the warm welcome Kent,
I have been lurking for quite some time and have enjoyed the interactions (from afar). I have also followed a few blogs from members here. I guess the first question is: Is this type of yacht too complicated with too many intricate systems to manage. Are Amels anymore more complicated than any other comparable yacht with similar features. I have read for years of the KISS principle and agree but that also conflicts with my other want and that is to sail and liveaboard in somewhat safety and comfort. This boats checks almost all the boxes (I do have a spreadsheet and there are boxes).
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Introduction from Utah
Welcome aboard Chuck and Kim! You will find this forum a great resource for all the inevitable questions before and after you purchase your dream boat. If you haven't already, take some time and browse the conversations, photos and files sections. You will start to get a sense of some of the common issues and how to avoid/troubleshoot/repair them. Search conversations for Bill Rouse BeBe, Danny Ocean Pearl, and Alexandre NIKIMAT (there are many many others who contribute greatly, but you have to start somewhere) for great discussions and detailed descriptions and pics of how to do many maintenance an repair jobs. What model are you most interested in? When do you hope/plan to slip the dock lines? Be especially careful of boats that have significant modifications from the original Amel design. And especially the electrical systems. The design varies from what most boats have, and changing it can have serious consequences. Get a surveyor who is thoroughly familiar with Amels when the time comes. There are some recent discussions about this with recommendations for Amel surveyors. Again, welcome and best of luck in your search! Kent Kristy SM243
On Jan 12, 2017, at 12:03 PM, clacey9@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Greetings All and Happy New Year, I am new to the group and not yet an Amel owner. My wife and I love the Amels and hopefully will own one this year. I believe I have paid my dues as a husband, father, uncle, son and corporate man and have left everyone happy in my wake. I am retiring a bit early (in society's eyes) and hope to spend many years with my wife of 30 years exploring this big wonderful world. I am sitting at work now in a snow storm doing a bit of day dreaming. Oh well back at! Take care to all, be safe and enjoy your day. Chuck & Kim Stuck in Utah Dreaming
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Introduction from Utah
Greetings All and Happy New Year,
I am new to the group and not yet an Amel owner. My wife and I love the Amels and hopefully will own one this year. I believe I have paid my dues as a husband, father, uncle, son and corporate man and have left everyone happy in my wake. I am retiring a bit early (in society's eyes) and hope to spend many years with my wife of 30 years exploring this big wonderful world. I am sitting at work now in a snow storm doing a bit of day dreaming. Oh well back at! Take care to all, be safe and enjoy your day. Chuck & Kim Stuck in Utah Dreaming
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: mainsail furler/ headsail sheets
Mark Pitt
Jeff, I cannot seem to reach you on the phone. Call me at 561-742-9466 or email Mark_Pitt at brown.edu. Mark On 1/11/2017 9:52 AM, JEFFREY KRAUS
jmkraus@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:
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Re: low rpm, AutoProp re pitching, AutoProp fro Sale
Hi Vlad, When I checked on having my Autoprop repitched, I was told that mine had been replaced with a different model and couldn't be repitched. As I remember, at that time they weren't actually repitching the blades, they were selling new blades for your existing hub. Please see post #6008 from Nov 11, 2009 of mine and the associated thread addressing the low rpm issue. The only thing I didn't do was to rebuild the AutoProp, because all mechanics agreed that the blades spun freely and without any wobble. Since then others here have said that the same low rpm problem was solved by rebuilding the Autoprop even though the blades seemed to be spinning freely. If you haven't done that yet, I'd do that before I did anything else. Amel told me that they used the same AutoProp on the SM with either the 78HP Volvo and the 100HP Yanmar. That is a 22-28% difference in HP (depending on how you calculate it), a significant difference to be using the same prop. I can tell you that in my case, when I repitched the fixed prop, and then purchased a new MaxProp, my Volvo got the appropriate 3000-3199 rpm under load. I still have the repitched fixed prop if you want to try it before you spend any more money. I'll be in Panama, Costa Rica, and Belize for most of 2017. I still have my old Autoprop if anyone wants it. It was original with the 78HP Volvo. It needs a rebuild kit. I would sell it for a very good price. Kent Kristy SM 243 Currently Caribbean Panama
On Jan 12, 2017, at 8:49 AM, Vladimir Sonsev sonsev52@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
As I stated above in this thread, I also have low engine RPM. It was 2500 RPM maximum when I bought my boat. I have 75 HP YANMAR with transmission 2.8:1 ratio. I contacted US Autoprop representative. He forward my question to the factory. See below their reply. I copied and pasted it below. My boat is on the hard now. I plan to check torbo when boat is in the water. I will conduct some other tests. If I could not resolve the problem I will remove the prop and send it to US Autoprop representative for a pitch change. Vladimir
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Yanmar 75HP - Cannot go over 2300 RPM
Hi Vladimir Since Island Pearl II is the same 75hp Yanmar engine, same gearbox, and the original Amel supplied autoprop, and it easily does 3300 - 3500 when clean, I think you will find it is the turbo, not a need to re-pitch the autoprop. Good luck with it though. Hope you don't need to re-pitch that really nice prop. Colin Streeter, Island Pearl II, SM#332 Brisbane On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 11:49 PM, Vladimir Sonsev sonsev52@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Yanmar 75HP - Cannot go over 2300 RPM
VLADIMIR SONSEV
As I stated above in this thread, I also have low engine RPM. It was 2500 RPM maximum when I bought my boat. I have 75 HP YANMAR with transmission 2.8:1 ratio. I contacted US Autoprop representative. He forward my question to the factory. See below their reply. I copied and pasted it below. My boat is on the hard now. I plan to check torbo when boat is in the water. I will conduct some other tests. If I could not resolve the problem I will remove the prop and send it to US Autoprop representative for a pitch change. Vladimir On Jan 11, 2017 7:16 AM, "David Pawley pawleyd@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.
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Mark and Laura Pitt
JEFFREY KRAUS
I didn't see a number to contact you. Please give me a call on my son's phone 6312768441 and we'll plan for later. I look forward to meeting you folks, along with Duane and Peg, who I will call this morning (in case you see this email) Jeff Spirit Amel 54 #14
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] mainsail furler/ headsail sheets
JEFFREY KRAUS
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: mainsail furler/ headsail sheets
JEFFREY KRAUS
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Re: SAMS certification?
dbv_au@...
Hi Porter, and others,
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If there is an AMEL-savvy surveyor going to be in the SE Caribbean in February, then we would be interested to share/contribute to costs. We anticipate the need for a few weeks of routine post-purchase maintenance (e.g., iron keel, engine room hoses & pipes, S/W pumps & heads) and perhaps some small works to re-instate some equipment and systems back to a closer-to-AMEL than is currently the case. That would be the intent for having Dave/Olivier or whom-ever come and look over our 2003 SM, to inform our decisions re the size and priorities of the works program. Time-frame: early/mid February; location: Martinique. Can be flexible. Looking forward to meeting you Porter, in a few weeks in Martinique. Best, David Perigee, SM#396, Martinique ---In amelyachtowners@..., <portermcroberts@...> wrote ... My wife and I are planning to go to Martinique from Feb 9-12. I'd be happy to see how many would be willing to share in the Oliver "delivery costs" ...Anyone in? And then would he be available?
On Jan 8, 2017, at 6:35 AM, Ben Driver/YAHOO joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Raw water manifold replacement
greatketch@...
Well, OK then. I guess that ends that discusssion.
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Re: mainsail furler/ headsail sheets
dbv_au@...
Hi All,
I second the advice to avoid going too much oversize. Moonshot-now-Perigee was re-rigged prior to our purchase with oversize sheets for the Headsail/Genoa and, whilst this gives confidence for the big blow, they do not fit the self-tailers at all well, requiring care (and muscle) when wrapping the sheets, and a watchful eye and re-sheeting on occasion, otherwise resulting in slippages or once or twice losing hold completely. I will be going down a size when it comes time to replace. David Perigee, SM#396, Martinique (not on-board, so unable to give measurements
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] St Maarten this week get together
sailormon <kimberlite@...>
Hi James and Chloe, Where are you located? Kimberlite is at Simpson bay marina. We should be on the boat after 3 Pm tomorrow. Please text me at 1- 631-398-9990. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 4:08 AM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] St Maarten this week get together
Hi, On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 01:44 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: mainsail furler/ headsail sheets
JEFFREY KRAUS
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Yanmar 75HP - Cannot go over 2300 RPM
David Pawley
Its possible there are 2 types of injectors for the same engine, one set for derated. The difference would be seen in the nozzle hole Dia. Have you still got the old injectors!. Visual examination should be adequate but better to use nozzle cleaners. I have no idea if Yanmar have derated injectors, but other large bore engine manufacturers certainly have.
On 11 January 2017 at 16:34, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rub Rail
sailor63109@...
Thanks Mike.
Duane Wanderer SM477
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] St Maarten this week get together
James Studdart
Hi,
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We arrived in St. Martin yesterday and will be here until the 17th-18th. We'd love to meet more Armelians! Cheers, James & Chloé. SeaBean SM#344
On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 01:44 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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St Maarten this week get together
sailormon <kimberlite@...>
Hi, I will be on Kimberlite in St Maarten starting Thursday for a week. Would anyone like to join us for a drink? Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
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