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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: 2 micron filters

Mohammad Shirloo

#27920

Hi Eric;

Thanks for sharing your experience. All good information. I wonder if the Volvo D-3 110 would have any different requirements and therefore be more sensitive to a 2 micron filter that your Yanmar?

I also have plans to add a fuel polishing system that would also allow new fuel to be filtered prior to going to the tank. I will post under a new conversation.

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

Amel 54 #099

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: 2 micron filters

sailormon <kimberlite@...>

#27919

My dual racor filter shows little if no vacuum.

I have been using the 2 micron filter now for 5400 engine hours and just changed the nozzles on the injectors which looked very good. We had no wind for 7 days and ran through 250 gallons of diesel and the vacuum gauge still read no vacuum. Possibly it is the Howells fuel treatment. I also filter my fuel through a huge Racor filter (used in high volume fuel pumps) using a pump. (thanks Ian).

I have spoken with the yanmar mechanics about this on many occasions and they agree that if my tank is clean and the fuel is clean a 2 micron works well.

On my previous boat when I was restoring it, I used a 2 micron filter to clean the bottom of the tank. It lasted 2 minutes. If you feel that you have bad fuel or crud in the tank I would use a 30 micron filter.

I keep a few of those on board in case I get a load of very bad fuel.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

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From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2016 2:39 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: 2 micron filters

The unused fuel pumped thru the fuel system serves to cool and lubricate the injectors and injection pump. The 2 micron filters will reduce the rate of flow. Whether it is too much is hard to tell. I would stay with the recommended 30's.

Duane

Wanderer #477

Re: 2 micron filters

Mohammad Shirloo

#27918

Thanks for the Link Alan. Interesting read.

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

Amel 54 099

Re: 2 micron filters

Alan Leslie

#27917

Really good discussion on 2 vs 3o micron filters here :

Fuel Filter Micron Ratings Explained | | PassageMaker


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Cheers

Alan

Elyse SM437

Re: 2 micron filters

Duane Siegfri

#27916

The unused fuel pumped thru the fuel system serves to cool and lubricate the injectors and injection pump. The 2 micron filters will reduce the rate of flow. Whether it is too much is hard to tell. I would stay with the recommended 30's.

Duane

Wanderer #477

Howells fuel treatment

sailormon <kimberlite@...>

#27915

Bill,

This is what Yanmar recommended and I have been using it for years.

http://www.howeslube.com/meanerpowerkleaner.php

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

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From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 9:12 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Diesel fuel problems and additives

Bill,

I went to Howes Lubricator webpage and I am unable tho find “Diesel Fuel Conditioner."

Webpage: http://www.howeslube.com/overview.php

Can you tell me which of the products on that page you use.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
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On Jun 28, 2016 4:40 PM, "Bill Kinney greatketch@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

The previous owners of our boat insisted that adding Howes Lubricator “Diesel Fuel Conditioner” stopped the soot stain completely on the side of the hull from our aging (7000 hours) Volvo.

Not one to argue, and putting this in the category of “it can’t hurt” I keep adding it, and no soot stain. This is not a biocide, and will not address directly the issue of biological growth.

Bill Kinney

SM #160 Harmonie

Highlands, NJ

On Jun 28, 2016, at 16:38, Dave Wallace svairops@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Bill, great question and I think the answer is “never” since the engine was rebuilt in 2010. I’ll put it on the top of my list. The staining isn’t very bad, but still annoying. Thanks!

Dave Wallace
s/v Air Ops
Maramu #104
Sea of Cortez

On Jun 28, 2016, at 1:28 PM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Dave,
This is not a smart-ass answer/remark.
When is the last time that the valve lash was adjusted on your engine and/or generator? If the valve lash is not adjusted correctly, you will get a lot of exhaust staining on the hull.
Bill Rouse
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On Jun 28, 2016 1:13 PM, "Dave Wallace svairops@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Jean-Pierre,

Your post has prompted a question from me. What have you found works well for cleaning the exhaust from the hull? Of course other members please feel free to chime in!

Thanks,

Dave Wallace
s/v Air Ops
Maramu #104
Sea of Cortez, Mx

On Jun 28, 2016, at 9:21 AM, Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Hello Aty & Mohammed,

Had a big problem on previous boat… however, we had the tank sucked out, fuel polished, changed all filters then no more issue.

We’ve not had any problem since installing the following upgrade on Eleuthera: a pair of Racor 75900 with a 4 way valve. (1-2-both-off)

We also use a bacteria killing agent at all times. Also, for those who use the low sulfur diesel… we do… (no choice in most places) we add 1 liter of 2 stroke oil to each 500 liters. Makes up some lubricity for the drier low sulfur stuff though it contributes to extra hull cleaning chore aft of the exhausts..

Cheers,

Jean-Pierre Germain
Eleuthera, SM 007

On 28 Jun 2016, at 16:16, mshirloo@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Hello everyone;

In talking to several different cruisers in the med, it appears that some have had some serious issues with bacterial or other types of growth in their diesel tanks leading to the need for disposal and deep cleaning of the fuel tanks.

I'd like hear others experiences and solutions to the problem in order to avoid the problem.

Thanks in advance

Mohammad and Aty
AMEL 54. #099
B&B Kokomo

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2 micron filters

sailormon <kimberlite@...>

#27914

I have always used the 2 micron filter on my Yanmar.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

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From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 6:07 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Diesel fuel problems and additives

Thanks every one for the replies. We do have dual racors and the fuel polishing system and pre filtering before it goes in to the tank all sound like good ideas.

Is any one aware of any negative effects of the additives? Also how do you find out the sulfur content of the fuel you are purchasing?

On a slightly different point, I purchased 12 extra rancor filters and later found out that my supplier sent me 2 micron instead of the 30 micron recommended by AMEL. In reviewing the specs of the 2 micron filter it sounds like it can handle the flow. Has any one used the finer filters ?

Mohammad and Aty

B&B KOKOMO

SY Saphir in Marina ZEA Athens

webercardio <webercardio@...>

#27913

Hello owner of Saphir Amel 54 in Marina Zea

I'm leaving my boat for july/August in Marina ZEA Ponton D - few berths beside yours.

As I'm noticed that the stern of your boat is very near to the Quay I'm called the marinero to adjust your front/ mooring line. Don't worry.

Like your solar/davits.

Wolfgang Weber SY Elise Amel 54

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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] B&G Sonic Speed

Bill Kinney <greatketch@...>

#27912

Ours goes whacky when we run the microwave!

Bill Kinney

SM #160, Harmonie

Highlands, NJ

http://fetchinketch.net

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On Jul 9, 2016, at 06:19, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

I think small debris and whirling or whipping current will cause what happened. I experienced abarnacle on one of the sensors which basically shut it down.
Bill Rouse
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On Jul 9, 2016 5:25 AM, "divanz620@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Thanks Colin,
yes, its all a bit strange...
Glad you're enjoying the updates...
I have to say there's not many cruising yachts up here this season....maybe the fear of the last cyclone or the bad weather down south hampering getaways...but it's great here.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437
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Re: : [Amel Yacht Owners] O-ring

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>

#27911

Alexandre,

Sorry, I' m not on the boat. 37-40 C is not our cup of tea, so we retreat to the mere 20's of London for July and August.

Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Preveza

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From: amelyachtowners@... on behalf of Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]
Sent: 09 July 2016 10:56:45
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: : [Amel Yacht Owners] O-ring

Good morning Ian, thanks for the information.
Do you happened to know the size of the O Ring? I had mine measured, but not sure if this is accurate...
Sincerely, Alexandre

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On Sat, 7/9/16, Ian & Judy ianjudyjenkins@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

Subject: Re: : [Amel Yacht Owners] O-ring
To: "amelyachtowners@..."
Date: Saturday, July 9, 2016, 3:13 AM










Hi Alexandre,
   The first
time we changed the oil in our propeller leg it was done by
an Amel engineer at La Rochelle. He advised me that the O
rings that came already fitted to the bronze piece were not
always true and that before inserting
the new seals you should do a trial fit of the bronze
piece to ensure that the O ring that came with it was a
tight fit. As a result I bought about 10 spare O rings. I
have probably changed the bronze piece about 8 times so far.
On each occasion the O ring
that came with the bronze piece was a good fit, but I am
prepared in case that should not be the case.

Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Preveza

From:
amelyachtowners@...
on behalf of
Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@...
[amelyachtowners]

Sent: 08 July 2016 12:00:56

To: amelyachtowners@...

Subject: Re: : [Amel Yacht Owners] O-ring


Ho now I
understand your question.

I had it measure once at: 39.5 x 3

Therefore, I don’t think this is necessary to have spare
as you will need to change the entire bronze fitting every 2
years and Amel sells it with the o ring.

Sincerely, Alexandre

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On Fri, 7/8/16, osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners]
wrote:

  Subject: Re: : [Amel Yacht Owners] O-ring

  To: amelyachtowners@...

  Date: Friday, July 8, 2016, 3:40 AM

























        Eric we do have it it's an extra seal for
the

  oil plug.



  Questions remain the size of the o-ring inside the
brons

  bussing that goes outside of the prop shaft



  Paul on SYKerpa SM 259



















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Re: : [Amel Yacht Owners] O-ring

Alexandre Uster von Baar

#27910

Good morning Ian, thanks for the information.
Do you happened to know the size of the O Ring?  I had mine measured, but not sure if this is accurate...
Sincerely, Alexandre

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On Sat, 7/9/16, Ian & Judy ianjudyjenkins@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 Subject: Re: : [Amel Yacht Owners] O-ring
 To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
 Date: Saturday, July 9, 2016, 3:13 AM

 Hi Alexandre,
                                 The first
 time we changed the oil in our propeller leg it was done by
 an Amel engineer at La Rochelle.  He advised me that the O
 rings that came already fitted to the bronze piece were not
 always true and that before inserting
  the new seals you should do a trial  fit of  the bronze
 piece to ensure that the O ring  that came with it was a
 tight fit. As a result I bought about 10 spare O rings. I
 have probably changed the bronze piece about 8 times so far.
 On each occasion the O ring
  that came with the bronze piece was a good fit, but I am
 prepared in case that should not be the case.

 Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Preveza

 From:
 amelyachtowners@...
 <amelyachtowners@...> on behalf of
 Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@...
 [amelyachtowners]
  <amelyachtowners@...>

 Sent: 08 July 2016 12:00:56

 To: amelyachtowners@...

 Subject: Re: : [Amel Yacht Owners] O-ring
  
 Ho now I
 understand your question. 

 I had it measure once at:  39.5 x 3

 Therefore, I don’t think this is necessary to have spare
 as you will need to change the entire bronze fitting every 2
 years and Amel sells it with the o ring. 

 Sincerely, Alexandre

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 On Fri, 7/8/16, osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners]
 <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

  Subject: Re: : [Amel Yacht Owners] O-ring

  To: amelyachtowners@...

  Date: Friday, July 8, 2016, 3:40 AM

        Eric we do have it it's an extra seal for
 the

  oil plug.

  Questions remain the size of the o-ring inside the
 brons

  bussing that goes outside of the prop shaft

  Paul on SYKerpa SM 259

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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] B&G Sonic Speed

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>

#27909

I think small debris and whirling or whipping current will cause what happened. I experienced abarnacle on one of the sensors which basically shut it down.

Bill Rouse
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On Jul 9, 2016 5:25 AM, "divanz620@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Thanks Colin,
yes, its all a bit strange...
Glad you're enjoying the updates...
I have to say there's not many cruising yachts up here this season....maybe the fear of the last cyclone or the bad weather down south hampering getaways...but it's great here.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437
18 22.87S, 178 09.14E

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] B&G Sonic Speed

Alan Leslie

#27908

Thanks Colin,

yes, its all a bit strange...

Glad you're enjoying the updates...

I have to say there's not many cruising yachts up here this season....maybe the fear of the last cyclone or the bad weather down south hampering getaways...but it's great here.

Cheers

Alan

Elyse SM437

18 22.87S, 178 09.14E

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] B&G Sonic Speed

Colin - ex SV Island Pearl

#27907

Hi Alan

Your experience is exactly the same as ours. We haven't been out sailing for a few weeks now but ours did similar things over a period of a couple months (perhaps only 20 hrs sailing though) then started working well again with dead accurate speed after the last time I dived on the sonars and scraped them clean with a sponge scourer. I do not know why or how but sure am glad it's working well now?

Thanks for the updates on your trip around Fiji. Looks like you are really getting a really good south pacific island sailing season in this year.

Cheers

Colin

Island Pearl II, Amel53 #332

Brisbane

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On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 4:47 PM, divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

I've researched all the msgs on this topic 'cos I thought ours had died.
Yesterday when we were about to enter Suva Harbour, Fiji, the B&G boat speed instrument went crazy - down to 2 knots then up to 10, down to 2 ...sat still on 6 (the speed we were actually doing) then up to 10, down to 2...bizarre behaviour. At anchor off the Royal Suva Yacht Club (I can't see what is so Royal about it!) the readings were between 0 and 3 knots.....
This morning its just the same...opened the processor box, read the manual...says the LED should be red...it's not...manual says adjust the spacing knob...OK...find a spot where its red...instrument readout is even more crazy......manual says probably the processor needs replacing...great !
Motoring out of Suva harbour still crazy...dive below...the LED has gone out...readjust the spacing knob to get it red again...still nuts....
THEN as we passed out of the reef ...about the same place that it went nuts yesterday, it suddenly seems to come right....weird...
We slowed the boat down, and sure enough boat speed went down, sped up to 8 knots and its spot on, back down to 6.5 knots...still OK...and its been fine ever since....
Anybody had this experience ??
BTW I found a place in the US that has a circuit board for the processor, I may buy it just in case.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437
18 22.87S, 178 09.14E

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Re: : [Amel Yacht Owners] O-ring

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>

#27906

Hi Alexandre,

The first time we changed the oil in our propeller leg it was done by an Amel engineer at La Rochelle. He advised me that the O rings that came already fitted to the bronze piece were not always true and that before inserting the new seals you should do a trial fit of the bronze piece to ensure that the O ring that came with it was a tight fit. As a result I bought about 10 spare O rings. I have probably changed the bronze piece about 8 times so far. On each occasion the O ring that came with the bronze piece was a good fit, but I am prepared in case that should not be the case.

Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Preveza

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From: amelyachtowners@... on behalf of Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]
Sent: 08 July 2016 12:00:56
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: : [Amel Yacht Owners] O-ring

Ho now I understand your question.
I had it measure once at: 39.5 x 3
Therefore, I don’t think this is necessary to have spare as you will need to change the entire bronze fitting every 2 years and Amel sells it with the o ring.

Sincerely, Alexandre

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On Fri, 7/8/16, osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

Subject: Re: : [Amel Yacht Owners] O-ring
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Friday, July 8, 2016, 3:40 AM








       Eric we do have it it's an extra seal for the
oil plug.

Questions remain the size of the o-ring inside the brons
bussing that goes outside of the prop shaft

Paul on SYKerpa SM 259







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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] B&G Sonic Speed

Hajo Hille

#27905

Hi Alan,

The same happened to me in Teneriffa last year.

Now my Sonic Speed is still working without repair. I think there was some current in the harbour.

Hope this helps

Hajo

SM 150 Serafine

Almerimar

Von meinem iPad gesendet

Am 09.07.2016 um 08:47 schrieb divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

Show quoted text

I've researched all the msgs on this topic 'cos I thought ours had died.
Yesterday when we were about to enter Suva Harbour, Fiji, the B&G boat speed instrument went crazy - down to 2 knots then up to 10, down to 2 ...sat still on 6 (the speed we were actually doing) then up to 10, down to 2...bizarre behaviour. At anchor off the Royal Suva Yacht Club (I can't see what is so Royal about it!) the readings were between 0 and 3 knots.....
This morning its just the same...opened the processor box, read the manual...says the LED should be red...it's not...manual says adjust the spacing knob...OK...find a spot where its red...instrument readout is even more crazy......manual says probably the processor needs replacing...great !
Motoring out of Suva harbour still crazy...dive below...the LED has gone out...readjust the spacing knob to get it red again...still nuts....
THEN as we passed out of the reef ...about the same place that it went nuts yesterday, it suddenly seems to come right....weird...
We slowed the boat down, and sure enough boat speed went down, sped up to 8 knots and its spot on, back down to 6.5 knots...still OK...and its been fine ever since....
Anybody had this experience ??
BTW I found a place in the US that has a circuit board for the processor, I may buy it just in case.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437
18 22.87S, 178 09.14E

B&G Sonic Speed

Alan Leslie

#27904

I've researched all the msgs on this topic 'cos I thought ours had died.

Yesterday when we were about to enter Suva Harbour, Fiji, the B&G boat speed instrument went crazy - down to 2 knots then up to 10, down to 2 ...sat still on 6 (the speed we were actually doing) then up to 10, down to 2...bizarre behaviour. At anchor off the Royal Suva Yacht Club (I can't see what is so Royal about it!) the readings were between 0 and 3 knots.....

This morning its just the same...opened the processor box, read the manual...says the LED should be red...it's not...manual says adjust the spacing knob...OK...find a spot where its red...instrument readout is even more crazy......manual says probably the processor needs replacing...great !

Motoring out of Suva harbour still crazy...dive below...the LED has gone out...readjust the spacing knob to get it red again...still nuts....

THEN as we passed out of the reef ...about the same place that it went nuts yesterday, it suddenly seems to come right....weird...

We slowed the boat down, and sure enough boat speed went down, sped up to 8 knots and its spot on, back down to 6.5 knots...still OK...and its been fine ever since....

Anybody had this experience ??

BTW I found a place in the US that has a circuit board for the processor, I may buy it just in case.

Cheers

Alan

Elyse SM437

18 22.87S, 178 09.14E

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: : [Amel Yacht Owners-ring

Paul Osterberg

#27903

Thanks I think the suggestion of having two o-rings is very good. I do use a lot of grease in this type of applicationa
Paul on SYKerpa SM 259

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: : [Amel Yacht Owners-ring

Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>

#27902

Hi Paul,

I would have to agree with Alexandre’s statement. I had a few things made by the turkeys in Turkey and regret it.

Cheers,

Jean-Pierre Germain

Eleuthera, SM007

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On 8 Jul 2016, at 15:27, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Paul,

I would think twice or more about having parts made elsewhere.

Even with the best intentions of the Turkey maker, the specs will not be the same.
I learnt it the hard way (thinking the spare bow thruster propeller and hubs I had onboard were from Amel).

The “Bague d’usure” cost 133.70 Euro from Amel, I don’t think it is worth saving a fee euro taking risk with the propulsion of the vessel…
Personally I purchased 3 from Amel, so I am set for some time.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico

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On Fri, 7/8/16, osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: : [Amel Yacht Owners-ring
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Friday, July 8, 2016, 7:46 AM

Thankyou I had two bronze fittings made in Turkey
so need to have o rings for them, and also like to have
spare anyhow

Paul on SYKerpa SM 259

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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: : [Amel Yacht Owners-ring

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>

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Pail, I delayed answering you because I was hoping someone had the exact answer, rather than trying to measure the O ring. But, since nobody had it, I attempted to measure it. I believe the outside diameter of the propeller shaft is milled to 1.5 inches which is 3.81mm. I measure the O ring at 3.9cm inside, 4.5cm outside, and 3mm thick, but since there are at least 10,000 sizes of O rings, and the O ring is flexible, I cannot be 100% sure.

I believe that since someone other than Amel made your wear bushing that you should have several sizes of O rings. The "correct" size O ring is the one that you can feel seal as you press the wear bushing onto the shaft. If the bushing slides onto the shaft too easily, you will have a leak. If I were making these, I would want to be 100% sure of all of the specifications including the hardness of the bronze. As you probably know. the Vickers Hardness range is very large for bronze. Do you know the Vickers Hardness of the Amel bushing? I do not, and I suspect our Turkish friends did not either. But, if I knew, I would think seriously about two O ring slots rather than just one.

I believe that this O ring fit is crucial to keeping water out of the C drive. I always remove the O ring and place waterproof grease into the slot in the bushing for the O ring, and on the O ring. I think everyone should do this. I showed this to Amel in Martinique. They agreed and now are doing this on all wear bushing replacements they do.

Another very important thing is to clean the inside wall of the cavity that the outside of the Lip Seals press against...and to grease the inside of the Lip Seals and the inside of the cavity.

I hope that this helps you, and fair winds.

Bill

BeBe 387

Trinidad

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On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 12:46 PM, osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Thankyou I had two bronze fittings made in Turkey so need to have o rings for them, and also like to have spare anyhow
Paul on SYKerpa SM 259