On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 4:18 AM, Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Hello Paul,  Andrew et al,

 

I installed the Ray SHD with a 4 foot bar antenna.  It serves more than one purpose: navigation, weather avoidance and ship safety.

 

But I have considerable experience with radar having been a pilot for decades.  For instance, this winter, while living aboard I gave repeated courses on how to use a radar… I was also surprized at how many owners had not one clue how to use it.

 

As a demonstration, while in harbour, I chose 1/8 mile scale and by manually reducing the gain, I could paint the “fairway” and distinguish the various masts ahead of us…. people were agog by this… yet it is simply knowing how to operate your equipment.  Also another convenient demonstration was when a a squall developed about 40 miles away.  I placed a marker on the main cell, noted the time and 6 minutes later took another bearing/distance on the cell.  It gave me a direction and speed of movement, which you definitely want to know when at sea if you want to avoid a squall or thunderstorm.

 

I highly recommend you RTFM on your radar and read the following .pdf.  

 

Lastly, this is just like sex… the more you use it, the better you get :-).  Use it EVERY TIME YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY!!!

 

 

 

Cheers,

 

 

 

Jean-Pierre Germain

SY Eleuthera, SM 007

 

 

 

On 18 Jun 2016, at 18:37, osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

Hello Andrew, Concerning radar, 

My experience concerning radar is rather limited, before we bought our SM, I have sailed two boats with radar together totally three month. Both of them where equipped with "standard" Raymarine radars, today they would be 5 -6 years old. My general thought after my experience with them was, why do people bother to install this expensive equipment as they to me act more like toys. No way we could see smal vessels even at moderate sea. and mid size vessel was maybe one or two pixels that light up.

So it was with not very high expectation we turned on our Furuno Radar (opend ray antenna 6 kw from 1998) with "gren screen". To our surprise we can easily see very small vessels even though our screen is down at the nav table and we sitt at the "captains" chair in the cockpit. we are super pleased with it, we have only used it in moderate conditions so fare. But a friend of mine who are a naval officer sin 30 years back, was inpressad with the installed radar, so I would not change it until it give up on it's own.

That's my view for what it's worth

Regards

Paul on S/Y Kerpa SM#259

 

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On Sun, 6/19/16, osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Wind generator on top of the mizzen mast
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Sunday, June 19, 2016, 7:05 AM


 









Hello! We
are thinking of adding a wind generator to complement our
650 w of solar power.
On cloudy days, during night sailing and in windy anchorage
in the Caribbean I
think it might be a good complement. But where to put it? We
do not like to put
in on the solar arc as it will give shadow on the solar
panels, thus reducing
output from the solar panels which will give the majority of
the
power. One place we believe might be a god spot is on top of
the mizzen mast,
but it has some draw backs. -Not possible to lock in
strong wind conditions-difficult to
service-could be
subject to very strong forces when going upwind
and pounding into the waves. With the
wind generator on top of the mizzen it can experience severe
de-acceleration and need to be fastened very
strong. On a previous boat when sailing up wind in rough
conditions our
combined tricolor and anchor light broke loose and fell down
on deck, due to
severe de-acceleration. Any
experience and advice highly appreciated on where to best
place the wind generator, We do like to fly the mizzen
balooner, thus on the mizzen mast fare from
ideal We are
currently choosing between Silent wind, Super wind and D 400
from Dougen. Noise
and vibration are at least as important criteria as
efficiency. Any
thoughts of which to go for? The Superwind is by fare the
most expensive one. Paul on
S/Y Kerpa SM#259     

































 










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On Sun, 6/19/16, Ian & Judy ianjudyjenkins@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] 2nd Main Anchor on bow
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Sunday, June 19, 2016, 12:44 AM

Hi Alexandre,
                       
   It looks as though the previous owner used his
anchor a lot and then instead of regalvanising it he chose
to slap on some white paint to hide the rust. Not a clever
move !
My main anchor is stainless steel, so
no maintenance, though I do check from time to time to make
sure the retaining bolt is ok. Not had an issue with it in
16 years.
You will be well served by both
your anchors, but you may not feel it necessary to have them
both ready to deploy.
We, too, have three
anchors. The third is a galvanised Spade which I keep in its
two separate parts in the deck locker outboard of the
cockpit. It has yet to see the sea.

Do use your anchor ! It's much more
comfortable to swing head to a breeze rather than being
cooped up in a marina !

Ian
and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Greece
> On 19 Jun 2016, at 00:49, Alexandre Uster
von Baar uster@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:
>
> I forgot a
question Ian,
>
>
Since you have the same Spade I have.  What type of care or
maintenance do you do for your anchor?
>

> I did not know anchor needed to be
“maintained” (aside washing them after sailing and
anchoring and regalvanized after a few years)
> Here is how mine look like http://www.nikimat.com/spade_anchor.html
which is the reason why Spade is sending me a new
one… 
>
> So what
do you do to maintain your anchor?
>
> Would love to hear back from everybody.
>
> Sincerely,
Alexandre
> SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
> Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico
>
>
>
>
>
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> On Sat, 6/18/16, Ian & Judy ianjudyjenkins@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:
>
> Subject:
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] 2nd Main Anchor on bow
> To: "amelyachtowners@..."
<amelyachtowners@...>
> Date: Saturday, June 18, 2016, 3:50 PM
>
> Alexandre ,
>   
>         
Why do
> you need two anchors ? We have a
30 kg Spade which has coped
> in all
conditions . We carry an aluminium version 15 kg ,
> with a couple of meters of chain which we
keep in the port
> bow locker " just
in case " . We  have used it
> once
in anger in 55,000 miles and over 1,000 anchorages in
> 16 years and that was to pull a French
yacht off the beach
> in Brazil. We
attached 100 meters of line , dug the anchor
> in and used his winches to save his boat .

> Modern anchors , given enough scope ,
are man
> enough for most conditions .

> Get your
> anchor
securely dug in and then pay out as much chain as you
> can . Chain remaining on board serves no
purpose .
>
> Ian
and Judy , Pen Azen , SM
> 302 , At
anchor in Greece
>
>
>
> On 18 Jun 2016, at 00:08, Alexandre Uster
von Baar uster@...
> [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Good afternoon,
>>
>> I won’t
explain
> how I end up with 2 anchors
(Rocna 33 and a Spade 30), but
> if
curious, I posted the story on FB (if you are not friend,
> you can find me under: “Amel
NIKIMAT”). 
>>
>> So my question is:
> how I can set my vessel for 2 main anchors
(Rocna 33 and
> Spade 30). 
>> As far as I know, my
> anchor roller can only accommodate 1
anchor (I think the
> roller on the
left/port is for a rope - may be someone can
> teach me its use). 
>> http://www.nikimat.com/anchor_roller.html
>>
>> To me, it
seems more
> logical to have 2 anchors on
the bow, with both easily
> deployable.

>> but I am open the
> opinion/suggestion (I have seen a super
maramu with a
> windlass on the stern,
but then how do you set an anchor
>
roller there, etc.)
>>
>>
>> My next
question is
> how much anchor rode for
the 2 main anchors… 
>> Weight is
starting to seriously get a
> problem…
I doubt it will be wise to add another 90 meter /
> 300 ft of 10 mm chain (which weight 200 kg
or 450 lbs).
>
>>
So what would be the “minimum”
>
still safe combination chain (+ rope). 
>> I know the chain will be 10 mm and
the
> rode should be 7/8” 
>>
>> Thanks in
advance… 
>>
>> Sincerely,
>
Alexandre
>> SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
>> Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto
> Rico
>>
>>
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On Jun 16, 2016, at 09:25, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... mailto:uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... mailto:amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

>
> Hello Bill,
>
> But this is a negative, there was more in the bilge than just what was in the line.
> Here is what Olivier wrote on Feb 23, 2016
> So may be I had more fuel than I thought… May be I had 3/4 and not half.
>
> Olivier’s message:
>
> the purpose of the shut-off valve at the bottom of the tank is not to be able to stop an engine but to prevent fuel from flowing in case of fire in the engine room (this is why there is a remote control).
> Yes, with this valve shut off, the engines go on running for 10 minutes (idling) before they stop. And I'm sure the main engine finally stops because I experienced this once in a windy harbor (because I did not check that this valve was open)...not fun at all.
> So, if you notice that the fuel keeps on flowing while you're changing the filters, this means the valve is dead and needs replacement (for safety in case of fire...). In fact there is a plastic housing around the chromed ball inside the valve. This plastic probably deteriorates because of time and wear.
>
> I don't think the engines can run thanks to the fuel coming from the return line (otherwise, the design of these engines would be very poor...).
>
> Bill is right, adding more valves is a source of future leaks, or problems (if you forget to open them all while running). AMEL did not do that to keep it simple, as you rarely change a filter on the genset while motoring (or vice versa).
> AMEL put a valve on the fuel heater system (option) as this equipment is more fragile, prone to leaking and should not be able to disable the engines (via air intakes).
>
> What Gary experienced with the fuel coming from the return line while changing the fuel filter on the genset, is because of siphoning when the tank is full. The fuel return line enters the tank with a piece of pipe that is around 20cm long, hence the siphon.
>
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Thu, 6/16/16, Bill Kinney greatketch@... mailto:greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... mailto:amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] GENSET ONAN CUMMINS cannot restart after fuel filter and oil change
> To: "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... mailto:uster@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@... mailto:amelyachtowners@...>
> Date: Thursday, June 16, 2016, 8:16 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> A valve there is not for convenience during
> repairs, although it would be that.
>
>
>
> There shouldn’t be any way to empty the fuel tank into the
> bilge without a positive shut off in case of a broken hose
> or other disaster. The reason that Amel has a remote
> operated main fuel valve (and every other well designed boat
> as well) is so you can positively shut off fuel flow to the
> engine room in the event of a fire. Having a return line
> that syphon feeds fuel from the tank to a fire would totally
> defeat the purpose.
>
>
>
> I do not doubt that you had fuel come out of the return
> line. I would expect it there. My engineering sense is
> that you saw the fuel in the line draining back, and not
> coming from the tank. Return lines would be full on the
> shutdown of the engine(s) and would likely stay that way.
> Draining back down to the fuel level in the tank through the
> injection pumps and lift pumps would take a very long time.
>
>
>
>
> I have added a project to my endless list… disconnect the
> return line from the generator with a full fuel tank and
> closed main valve and see what happens. I expect to get
> about a liter of fuel out as the lines drain, and then no
> more. At least I hope that’s what happens!
>
>
>
>> On Jun 16, 2016, at 08:38, Alexandre Uster von Baar
> uster@... mailto:uster@... [amelyachtowners]
> <amelyachtowners@... mailto:amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
>
>>
>
>> Hello Bill (SM#160),
>
>>
>
>> At the time when it happened to me, I didn’t mention
> it on the forum as I couldn’t understand it (and kind of
> felt stupid to be honest), then others mention the same
> thing so I share my experience.
>
>>
>
>> Yes, absolutely positive, it is coming from the
> “return” line, there was probably 4 liters of diesel
> overnight in the bilge (which I had to empty using cups,
> etc.) difficult to estimate because it was mix with the
> water in my bilge.
>
>>
>
>> Personally I don’t feel worth the time to install a
> valve on the return line, it is much quicker to simply
> disconnect the hose that goes to it. In the 3.5 years of
> ownership, only needed to disconnect the return line once.
>
>
>>
>
>> Wish I could help more…
>
>>
>
>> Sincerely, Alexandre
>
>> SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
>
>> Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
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>
>> On Thu, 6/16/16, Bill Kinney greatketch@... mailto:greatketch@...
> [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... mailto:amelyachtowners@...>
> wrote:
>
>>
>
>> Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] GENSET ONAN CUMMINS
> cannot restart after fuel filter and oil change
>
>> To: amelyachtowners@... mailto:amelyachtowners@...
>
>> Date: Thursday, June 16, 2016, 7:13 AM
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> Alexandre
>
>> I am trying to understand what is
>
>> going on here… If it really is possible to syphon
> fuel
>
>> out of a half full tank via the return line, then
> putting a
>
>> shut off valve on it would become become a very high
>
>> priority safety project for me.
>
>> But if the tank is built the
>
>> way Amel drew it, then it is not possible for this to
> happen
>
>> without “magic”, and we are seeing something
> else
>
>> happening.
>
>> You describe a “drop by drop”
>
>> leak of fuel. How much total fuel leaked this way
> would
>
>> you guess? 10 liters? 5? Less than 1?
>
>> Bill KinneySM#160 HarmoniePort Canaveral, Florida
>
>> On Jun 16, 2016, at 06:44,
>
>> Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... mailto:uster@...
>
>> [amelyachtowners]
> <amelyachtowners@... mailto:amelyachtowners@...>
>
>> wrote:
>
>> Good morning Bill (SM
>
>> #160),
>
>>
>
>> April 28, 2015 in reply to Mike
>
>> Ondra’s post, I reply:
>
>>
>
>> my injectors (engine) were
>
>> removed to be check/rebuilt
>
>> Somehow fuel was still coming
>
>> drop by drop in the bilge compartment.
>
>> It did not make any
>
>> sense to me as the valve was off.
>
>> I realize the fuel
>
>> was coming from the “return” valve (which still
>
>> doesn’t make any sense… may be some type of suction
> or
>
>> syphon?)
>
>> So I
>
>> disconnected the return rubber fuel line to the tank,
> the
>
>> leak stop.
>
>>
>
>> My tank was may be 1/2 full.
>
>>
>
>> It happened to other people as
>
>> well.
>
>>
>
>> One of these things hard to
>
>> understand but that you have to keep in mind.
>
>>
>
>> Sincerely, Alexandre
>
>> SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
>
>> Club Nautico de San
>
>> Juan, Puerto Rico
>
>>
>
>> --------------------------------------------
>
>> On Wed, 6/15/16,
>
>> Bill Kinney greatketch@... mailto:greatketch@... [amelyachtowners]
>
>> <amelyachtowners@... mailto:amelyachtowners@...>
>
>> wrote:
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>> Subject: Re: Re:
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>> [Amel Yacht Owners] GENSET ONAN CUMMINS cannot restart
> after
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>> fuel filter and oil change
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>> To: amelyachtowners@... mailto:amelyachtowners@...
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>> Date: Wednesday,
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>> June 15, 2016, 9:21 PM
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>> I am puzzled…
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>> How can the fuel
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>> “syphon”
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>> back
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>> from the tank through the return line? Amel’s
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>> drawing of the tank
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>> does not show a dip tube (and there
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>> certainly shouldn’t be one!) on
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>> the return fitting on the
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>> top of the tank.
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>> It seems that if the
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>> only way
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>> this
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>> could happen is if the tank is filled so full the
> level
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>> is up into the fill
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>> line with NO air in the tank at
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>> all.
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>> Bill KinneySM#160 HarmoniePort
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>> Canaveral, Florida
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>> On Jun 15, 2016, at 21:41,
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>> amelliahona <no_reply@... mailto:no_reply@...>
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>> wrote:
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>> Dominique:
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>> I just replaced my
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>> electric
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>> priming
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>> pump on my SM #335 Onan Genset. I did not have
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>> access at the time
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>> to a proper FLARE NUT WRENCH when I did
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>> this. I ended up distorting the
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>> "B-nut" on the
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>> small copper fuel line that goes
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>> from the fuel pump to the
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>> fuel filter adapter and could NOT
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>> get a proper seal upon
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>> replacing this line (a continuous
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>> small seep of fuel that
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>> was really annoying and messy).
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>> I had to order a
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>> replacement line (not that
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>> expensive) and buy a proper set
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>> of flare nut wrenches to
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>> adequately get a seal. I wish I
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>> could remember the size of the
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>> flare nut but it was SAE (not
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>> metric) sized. Make sure the
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>> fuel tank is low on fuel
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>> (think 250 liter will work)
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>> otherwise a continuous stream of
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>> fuel will flow by syphon from the
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>> fuel tank fuel return line
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>> while you make this plumbing
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>> change. I managed to turn
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>> this otherwise simple replacement
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>> into a major project based
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>> on A) not using the proper tools
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>> to loosen and re-install
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>> the B-nut of the fuel line, B)
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>> not have lowered the fuel in
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>> the tank (mine was full at the
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>> time of my work).
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>>
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>> Good luck. The pump was
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>> about
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>> $65 as I
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>> recall (not that expensive in the scheme of things)
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>> and the fuel line
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>> was about $8
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>> Sincerely,
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>> Gary S. Silvers/v LiahonaAmel SM
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>> #335 Puerto
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>> Rico
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>> <p>Hello Bill (SM#160), <br>
>
>> <br>
>
>> At the time when it happened to me, I didn’t mention
> it on the forum as I couldn’t understand it (and kind of
> felt stupid to be honest), then others mention the same
> thing so I share my experience. <br>
>
>> <br>
>
>> Yes, absolutely positive, it is coming from the
> “return” line, there was probably 4 liters of diesel
> overnight in the bilge (which I had to empty using cups,
> etc.) difficult to estimate because it was mix with the
> water in my bilge. <br>
>
>> <br>
>
>> Personally I don’t feel worth the time to install a
> valve on the return line, it is much quicker to simply
> disconnect the hose that goes to it. In the 3.5 years of
> ownership, only needed to disconnect the return line once.
> <br>
>
>> <br>
>
>> Wish I could help more… <br>
>
>> <br>
>
>> Sincerely, Alexandre<br>
>
>> SM2K #289 NIKIMAT<br>
>
>> Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico<br>
>
>> <br>
>
>>
> --------------------------------------------<br>
>
>> On Thu, 6/16/16, Bill Kinney greatketch@... mailto:greatketch@...
> [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@... mailto:amelyachtowners@...>
> wrote:<br>
>
>> <br>
>
>> Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] GENSET ONAN CUMMINS
> cannot restart after fuel filter and oil change<br>
>
>> To: amelyachtowners@... mailto:amelyachtowners@...<br>
>
>> Date: Thursday, June 16, 2016, 7:13 AM<br>
>
>> <br>
>
>> <br>
>
>> <br>
>
>> <br>
>
>> <br>
>
>> <br>
>
>> <br>
>
>> <br>
>
>> <br>
>
>> <br>
>
>> <br>
>
>> <br>
>
>> Alexandre<br>
>
>> I am trying to understand what is<br>
>
>> going on here… If it really is possible to syphon
> fuel<br>
>
>> out of a half full tank via the return line, then
> putting a<br>
>
>> shut off valve on it would become become a very
> high<br>
>
>> priority safety project for me.<br>
>
>> But if the tank is built the<br>
>
>> way Amel drew it, then it is not possible for this to
> happen<br>
>
>> without “magic”, and we are seeing something
> else<br>
>
>> happening.<br>
>
>> You describe a “drop by drop”<br>
>
>> leak of fuel. How much total fuel leaked this way
> would<br>
>
>> you guess? 10 liters? 5? Less than 1?<br>
>
>> Bill KinneySM#160 HarmoniePort Canaveral,
> Florida<br>
>
>> On Jun 16, 2016, at 06:44,<br>
>
>> Alexandre Uster von Baar
> uster@... mailto:uster@...<br>
>
>> [amelyachtowners]
> <amelyachtowners@... mailto:amelyachtowners@...><br>
>
>> wrote:<br>
>
>> Good morning Bill (SM<br>
>
>> #160), <br>
>
>> <br>
>
>> April 28, 2015 in reply to Mike<br>
>
>> Ondra’s post, I reply: <br>
>
>> <br>
>
>> my injectors (engine) were<br>
>
>> removed to be check/rebuilt<br>
>
>> Somehow fuel was still coming<br>
>
>> drop by drop in the bilge compartment. <br>
>
>> It did not make any<br>
>
>> sense to me as the valve was off. <br>
>
>> I realize the fuel<br>
>
>> was coming from the “return” valve (which
> still<br>
>
>> doesn’t make any sense… may be some type of suction
> or<br>
>
>> syphon?)<br>
>
>> So I<br>
>
>> disconnected the return rubber fuel line to the tank,
> the<br>
>
>> leak stop. <br>
>
>> <br>
>
>> My tank was may be 1/2 full. <br>
>
>> <br>
>
>> It happened to other people as<br>
>
>> well. <br>
>
>> <br>
>
>> One of these things hard to<br>
>
>> understand but that you have to keep in mind.
> <br>
>
>> <br>
>
>> Sincerely, Alexandre<br>
>
>> SM2K #289 NIKIMAT<br>
>
>> Club Nautico de San<br>
>
>> Juan, Puerto Rico<br>
>
>> <br>
>
>>
> --------------------------------------------<br>
>
>> On Wed, 6/15/16,<br>
>
>> Bill Kinney greatketch@... mailto:greatketch@...
> [amelyachtowners]<br>
>
>> <amelyachtowners@... mailto:amelyachtowners@...><br>
>
>> wrote:<br>
>
>> <br>
>
>> Subject: Re: Re:<br>
>
>> [Amel Yacht Owners] GENSET ONAN CUMMINS cannot restart
> after<br>
>
>> fuel filter and oil change<br>
>
>> To: amelyachtowners@... mailto:amelyachtowners@...<br>
>
>> Date: Wednesday,<br>
>
>> June 15, 2016, 9:21 PM<br>
>
>> <br>
>
>> <br>
>
>> <br>
>
>> <br>
>
>> <br>
>
>> <br>
>
>> <br>
>
>> <br>
>
>> <br>
>
>> <br>
>
>> <br>
>
>> <br>
>
>> I am puzzled… <br>
>
>> How can the fuel<br>
>
>> “syphon”<br>
>
>> back<br>
>
>> from the tank through the return line?
> Amel’s<br>
>
>> drawing of the tank<br>
>
>> does not show a dip tube (and there<br>
>
>> certainly shouldn’t be one!) on<br>
>
>> the return fitting on the<br>
>
>> top of the tank. <br>
>
>> It seems that if the<br>
>
>> only way<br>
>
>> this<br>
>
>> could happen is if the tank is filled so full the
> level<br>
>
>> is up into the fill<br>
>
>> line with NO air in the tank at<br>
>
>> all.<br>
>
>> Bill KinneySM#160 HarmoniePort<br>
>
>> Canaveral, Florida<br>
>
>> <br>
>
>> <br>
>
>> <br>
>
>> <br>
>
>> <br>
>
>> <br>
>
>> On Jun 15, 2016, at 21:41,<br>
>
>> amelliahona
> <no_reply@... mailto:no_reply@...><br>
>
>> wrote:<br>
>
>> Dominique:<br>
>
>> I just replaced my<br>
>
>> electric<br>
>
>> priming<br>
>
>> pump on my SM #335 Onan Genset. I did not
> have<br>
>
>> access at the time<br>
>
>> to a proper FLARE NUT WRENCH when I did<br>
>
>> this. I ended up distorting the<br>
>
>> "B-nut" on the<br>
>
>> small copper fuel line that goes<br>
>
>> from the fuel pump to the<br>
>
>> fuel filter adapter and could NOT<br>
>
>> get a proper seal upon<br>
>
>> replacing this line (a continuous<br>
>
>> small seep of fuel that<br>
>
>> was really annoying and messy).<br>
>
>> I had to order a<br>
>
>> replacement line (not that<br>
>
>> expensive) and buy a proper set<br>
>
>> of flare nut wrenches to<br>
>
>> adequately get a seal. I wish I<br>
>
>> could remember the size of the<br>
>
>> flare nut but it was SAE (not<br>
>
>> metric) sized. Make sure the<br>
>
>> fuel tank is low on fuel<br>
>
>> (think 250 liter will work)<br>
>
>> otherwise a continuous stream of<br>
>
>> fuel will flow by syphon from the<br>
>
>> fuel tank fuel return line<br>
>
>> while you make this plumbing<br>
>
>> change. I managed to turn<br>
>
>> this otherwise simple replacement<br>
>
>> into a major project based<br>
>
>> on A) not using the proper tools<br>
>
>> to loosen and re-install<br>
>
>> the B-nut of the fuel line, B)<br>
>
>> not have lowered the fuel in<br>
>
>> the tank (mine was full at the<br>
>
>> time of my work).<br>
>
>> <br>
>
>> Good luck. The pump was<br>
>
>> about<br>
>
>> $65 as I<br>
>
>> recall (not that expensive in the scheme of
> things)<br>
>
>> and the fuel line<br>
>
>> was about $8<br>
>
>> Sincerely, <br>
>
>> Gary S. Silvers/v LiahonaAmel SM<br>
>
>> #335 Puerto<br>
>
>> Rico <br>
>
>> <br>
>
>> <br>
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>> <br>
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On Sat, 6/18/16, Ian & Judy ianjudyjenkins@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] 2nd Main Anchor on bow
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Saturday, June 18, 2016, 3:50 PM

Alexandre , 
   
         Why do
you need two anchors ? We have a 30 kg Spade which has coped
in all conditions . We carry an aluminium version 15 kg ,
with a couple of meters of chain which we keep in the port
bow locker " just in case " . We  have used it
once in anger in 55,000 miles and over 1,000 anchorages in
16 years and that was to pull a French yacht off the beach
in Brazil. We attached 100 meters of line , dug the anchor
in and used his winches to save his boat .
Modern anchors , given enough scope , are man
enough for most conditions .
Get your
anchor securely dug in and then pay out as much chain as you
can . Chain remaining on board serves no purpose .

Ian and Judy , Pen Azen , SM
302 , At anchor in Greece
>
On 18 Jun 2016, at 00:08, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:
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>
>
> Good afternoon,
>
> I won’t explain
how I end up with 2 anchors (Rocna 33 and a Spade 30), but
if curious, I posted the story on FB (if you are not friend,
you can find me under: “Amel NIKIMAT”). 
>
> So my question is:
how I can set my vessel for 2 main anchors (Rocna 33 and
Spade 30). 
> As far as I know, my
anchor roller can only accommodate 1 anchor (I think the
roller on the left/port is for a rope - may be someone can
teach me its use). 
> http://www.nikimat.com/anchor_roller.html
>
> To me, it seems more
logical to have 2 anchors on the bow, with both easily
deployable.
> but I am open the
opinion/suggestion (I have seen a super maramu with a
windlass on the stern, but then how do you set an anchor
roller there, etc.)
>
>
> My next question is
how much anchor rode for the 2 main anchors… 
> Weight is starting to seriously get a
problem… I doubt it will be wise to add another 90 meter /
300 ft of 10 mm chain (which weight 200 kg or 450 lbs). 

> So what would be the “minimum”
still safe combination chain (+ rope). 
> I know the chain will be 10 mm and the
rode should be 7/8” 
>
> Thanks in advance… 
>
> Sincerely,
Alexandre
> SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
> Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto
Rico
>
>
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On Sat, 6/18/16, Ian & Judy ianjudyjenkins@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] 2nd Main Anchor on bow
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Saturday, June 18, 2016, 3:50 PM

Alexandre , 
   
         Why do
you need two anchors ? We have a 30 kg Spade which has coped
in all conditions . We carry an aluminium version 15 kg ,
with a couple of meters of chain which we keep in the port
bow locker " just in case " . We  have used it
once in anger in 55,000 miles and over 1,000 anchorages in
16 years and that was to pull a French yacht off the beach
in Brazil. We attached 100 meters of line , dug the anchor
in and used his winches to save his boat .
Modern anchors , given enough scope , are man
enough for most conditions .
Get your
anchor securely dug in and then pay out as much chain as you
can . Chain remaining on board serves no purpose .

Ian and Judy , Pen Azen , SM
302 , At anchor in Greece
>
On 18 Jun 2016, at 00:08, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:
>
>
>
> Good afternoon,
>
> I won’t explain
how I end up with 2 anchors (Rocna 33 and a Spade 30), but
if curious, I posted the story on FB (if you are not friend,
you can find me under: “Amel NIKIMAT”). 
>
> So my question is:
how I can set my vessel for 2 main anchors (Rocna 33 and
Spade 30). 
> As far as I know, my
anchor roller can only accommodate 1 anchor (I think the
roller on the left/port is for a rope - may be someone can
teach me its use). 
> http://www.nikimat.com/anchor_roller.html
>
> To me, it seems more
logical to have 2 anchors on the bow, with both easily
deployable.
> but I am open the
opinion/suggestion (I have seen a super maramu with a
windlass on the stern, but then how do you set an anchor
roller there, etc.)
>
>
> My next question is
how much anchor rode for the 2 main anchors… 
> Weight is starting to seriously get a
problem… I doubt it will be wise to add another 90 meter /
300 ft of 10 mm chain (which weight 200 kg or 450 lbs). 

> So what would be the “minimum”
still safe combination chain (+ rope). 
> I know the chain will be 10 mm and the
rode should be 7/8” 
>
> Thanks in advance… 
>
> Sincerely,
Alexandre
> SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
> Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto
Rico
>
>
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> Posted by: Alexandre Uster von Baar <uster@...>
> ------------------------------------
>
>
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