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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] rubber Rub Rail gutter

Patrick McAneny
 

Mike, When I painted my rub rail I did not remove it , I just lifted the edge and slid a piece of probably 1/4" line under it to hold it up and out of the way . After painting ,just pulled the line out, very simple.
Pat SM #123



-----Original Message-----
From: 'Mike Ondra' mdondra@... [amelyachtowners] To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Sun, Aug 21, 2016 5:58 pm
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] rubber Rub Rail gutter

 
We are repainting the rubrail after 16 years of doing its job. How easy or difficult has the experience been to remove the rubber rub rail gutter and then re-install it. The cross-sectional drawing detail implies this should be a fairly easy task of pulling up on the inboard side of the gutter and rotating the gutter up and out, the outboard side being “notched” around the edge of the fiberglass forming the rub rail. Installation would be the reverse, perhaps benefitting from a little lubrication. Our concern is that the rubber has hardened and stiffened over the years and may not be sufficiently pliable to accomplish removal and installation easily.
Mike Ondra
S/V Aletes SM#240
Rock Hall, MD
 
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Diesel in Gibraltar

luvkante
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Diesel in Gibraltar

luvkante
 


Re: Diesel in Gibraltar

svperegrinus@yahoo.com
 

We filled up at Gibraltar on December 28th.  No issues.  Cheap diesel at nearly half price and cheap dinghy gasoline.   Eight months later, we are still using the Gibraltar dinghy gasoline, and the engine starts at the first pull.

On the North Mole (immediately south of the airport) there are three fueling stations; we passed two and went to the easternmost, largely because of the friendly attendant.  Friendly is good.

Also, Gibraltar does not require the vessel/passengers to check-in if one is only going to the fuel docks.  However, one must genuinely confine oneself to the fuel dock.  We did spend several days in Gib, but each day walking across from the Spanish side.

Cheerio,

Peregrinus
SM2K 350
At anchor, Cala di Volpe (Costa Smeralda)

---In amelyachtowners@..., <luvkante@...> wrote :

Hi friends,


I want to re-fuel in Gibraltar. 

Now I heard some RUMORS, that Diesel-fuel there us sometimes contaminated. 

Any experiences? Price?


Thank you,

Martin

AMEL 54, #149

CHIARA



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Diesel in Gibraltar

Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...>
 

We have bought diesel in Gibraltar 6 times, have never had any problem with dirty diesel. They have a very high  rotation of diesel with all super/mega/giga yachts filling up their tanks there.

BUT if you want to fill up your jerry cans, they charge you a higher, taxed, price for those liters. That is thanks to the Spanish which came to Gibraltar, filled their jerry cans and then Went back to Spain and sold it.

 

Now is a very busy time i Gibraltar so I highly recommend to make a reservation. In Marina Bay/Ocean Village (Same marina with two names, most confusing) they will charge you 28 GBP + electricity and Water/night. They do have a WiFi but it isn’t very good. Better to take an afternoon bear/drink at the boardwalk just above the marina.

 

I can also recomend you to look for the small indian supermarket and buy Spices. Very good quality and nice prices. Contact me if you will have directions.

 

There is also two supermarkets. Eroski on the other side of the Airport and Morrison down at Queensbay Marina. Eroski has a very good sortiment and are cheaper than Morrison that has, almost, all groceries flewn in from UK.

Eroski can transport your shopping to the boat, but check with the information desk befor you do the shopping, sometimes theire transport are fully booked, but there is always a solution.

Many of the liquer shops also has a free transport down to the boat. But my recommendation is to compare prices between supermarkets and special shops befor ordering. They do differ. Most of the time it is cheaper to buy at the supermarket.

 

I do wish you a pleasant stay i Gibraltar. One of our favourite spots.

 

Oh, and if you stop in Portimao, please come by and say hi. We are at anchore just inside the piers.

 

Regards

Annsofie

S/Y Lady Annila

SM232, 1998

 

Skickades från E-post för Windows 10

 

Från: James Studdart james.studdart@... [amelyachtowners]
Skickat: den 22 augusti 2016 10:38
Till: amelyachtowners@...
Ämne: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Diesel in Gibraltar

 

 

I can't tell you the quality yet... But I would expect the fuel docks to be busy (which is good!).

I called GibOil (+350 200 48232) just half and hour ago for the price:

Up to 100l: 52p
Up to 500l: 46p
Over 500l: 39p

The price seems a little flexible too.

I've not called the other dock yet (I think there is two).

Cheers,
James.

SeaBean SM344
Queensway Quay Marina
Gibraltar, but wind willing in the Canary Islands soon.

On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 10:15 AM luvkante@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi friends,


I want to re-fuel in Gibraltar. 

Now I heard some RUMORS, that Diesel-fuel there us sometimes contaminated. 

Any experiences? Price?


Thank you,

Martin

AMEL 54, #149

CHIARA



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Diesel in Gibraltar

luvkante
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Diesel in Gibraltar

James Studdart
 

I can't tell you the quality yet... But I would expect the fuel docks to be busy (which is good!).

I called GibOil (+350 200 48232) just half and hour ago for the price:

Up to 100l: 52p
Up to 500l: 46p
Over 500l: 39p

The price seems a little flexible too.

I've not called the other dock yet (I think there is two).

Cheers,
James.

SeaBean SM344
Queensway Quay Marina
Gibraltar, but wind willing in the Canary Islands soon.

On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 10:15 AM luvkante@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi friends,


I want to re-fuel in Gibraltar. 

Now I heard some RUMORS, that Diesel-fuel there us sometimes contaminated. 

Any experiences? Price?


Thank you,

Martin

AMEL 54, #149

CHIARA



Diesel in Gibraltar

luvkante
 

Hi friends,


I want to re-fuel in Gibraltar. 

Now I heard some RUMORS, that Diesel-fuel there us sometimes contaminated. 

Any experiences? Price?


Thank you,

Martin

AMEL 54, #149

CHIARA



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] 110 volts in a 220 volt pedestal

kimberlite@...
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] 110 volts in a 220 volt pedestal

Mark Erdos
 

Eric,

 

What size breaker did you install?

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Yacht: Cream Puff

 

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 1:04 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] 110 volts in a 220 volt pedestal

 

 

I installed volt, frequency, and amp meters and a circuit breaker in

Kimberlite. They are mounted before the actual voltage enters the man AC panel as I leave the circuit breaker that I installed off before turning the boat on. Years ago I saw a 110 volt American boat plug into a pedestal in Bermuda that was mis wired and he had 440 volts blow out everything on his boat.

3 weeks ago I returned to my slip at my yacht club , plugged in and found 110 volts on my panel. fortunately my safety breaker was off. I plugged into another pedestal. taped off the bad pedestal and all was good.

Always check the voltage of what your are plugging into.

Fair Winds,

 Eric


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] rubber Rub Rail gutter

Stephen Davis
 

Hi Mike,

We had our SM painted in Trinidad, and had to remove the rubber from the rub rail. It came out from front to back fairly easily. Our boat is close to 25 years old, has lived much of its life in the Caribbean, and the rubber part was still supple and easy to work with. After removal, I scrubbed it, and then waxed the exposed part. It looks almost as good as new. Getting it back in was a 2 person job. We started at the bow, and one person lined it up while the other person used a rubber mallet to fit it back in. Probably 2 hours of work for both sides. 

Good luck with the project. 

Steve Davis
Aloha SM72
Grenada

On Aug 21, 2016, at 17:57, 'Mike Ondra' mdondra@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

We are repainting the rubrail after 16 years of doing its job. How easy or difficult has the experience been to remove the rubber rub rail gutter and then re-install it. The cross-sectional drawing detail implies this should be a fairly easy task of pulling up on the inboard side of the gutter and rotating the gutter up and out, the outboard side being “notched” around the edge of the fiberglass forming the rub rail. Installation would be the reverse, perhaps benefitting from a little lubrication. Our concern is that the rubber has hardened and stiffened over the years and may not be sufficiently pliable to accomplish removal and installation easily.

Mike Ondra

S/V Aletes SM#240

Rock Hall, MD

 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] 110 volts in a 220 volt pedestal

karkauai
 

That's how I wired Kristy.  I'll be better about turning that breaker off before I plug in.  Thanks.
Kent

Kent Robertson
828-234-6819 voice/text

On Aug 21, 2016, at 1:03 PM, kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I installed volt, frequency, and amp meters and a circuit breaker in

Kimberlite. They are mounted before the actual voltage enters the man AC panel as I leave the circuit breaker that I installed off before turning the boat on. Years ago I saw a 110 volt American boat plug into a pedestal in Bermuda that was mis wired and he had 440 volts blow out everything on his boat.

3 weeks ago I returned to my slip at my yacht club , plugged in and found 110 volts on my panel. fortunately my safety breaker was off. I plugged into another pedestal. taped off the bad pedestal and all was good.

Always check the voltage of what your are plugging into.

Fair Winds,

 Eric


rubber Rub Rail gutter

Mike Ondra
 

We are repainting the rubrail after 16 years of doing its job. How easy or difficult has the experience been to remove the rubber rub rail gutter and then re-install it. The cross-sectional drawing detail implies this should be a fairly easy task of pulling up on the inboard side of the gutter and rotating the gutter up and out, the outboard side being “notched” around the edge of the fiberglass forming the rub rail. Installation would be the reverse, perhaps benefitting from a little lubrication. Our concern is that the rubber has hardened and stiffened over the years and may not be sufficiently pliable to accomplish removal and installation easily.

Mike Ondra

S/V Aletes SM#240

Rock Hall, MD

 

 


Re: Rocker Switch in lights above island counter

sailor63109@...
 

He does have switches on hand.  1 GBP per switch plus 3.15 GBP shipping for 100 grams or less.  I bought 10 for about $17 total.  If you need one I'll have a few extra.

Duane
Wanderer, SM #477


110 volts in a 220 volt pedestal

kimberlite@...
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Optional 110 Volt shore power, which wire goes where

James Wendell <ms42phantom54@...>
 

Bill raises a good point. I have seen contractors (even the "best") compromise the integrity of the wiring by using whatever wire is available. That often means inconsistent colors. It is really important to trace all wiring from the source to the load connection point to be sure the wire is correct, and not rely solely on color. I also agree that the white wire is not used when you connect US 240 volts to an EU boat (only the black, red, and green).

I installed an isolation transformer to prevent any mixups on my Amel. It allows me to connect to any power source (US or EU) and still get 230 volts out. Of course, it does not change frequency, which is another issue to check.

Jamie
 
s/v Phantom Amel 54 #044


On Saturday, August 20, 2016 11:52 AM, "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
Jamie,
Your reply to Alex may be correct, but could be misinterpreted.
Connecting a EU boat without a transformer to US power:
The US "White" wire is not used from the shore to the boat when wiring a EU boat to US type power. The short answer is that 220VAC 60htz power has 4 wires and a 230VAC 50htz has three wires. The wire NOT used is the white from shore power. If you use the white, you will have problems including electrocution. Go to Photos and search on "shore" then navigate to the shore power wiring diagram.
Refer to this graphic when connecting a EU boat without a transformer to US power. A EU boat with a transformer should wire the transformer according to the specifications supplied by the manufacturer.
Alex's situation is somewhat confused because the wire from the US plug to the transformer is NOT color coded to US schemes, probably because they did not have that wire available, but that is just a guess.
I have seen at least 4 Amels wired incorrectly to US shore power. Most that I have seen disregard the Earth (green/yellow) and connect the Red110 to Blue, the Black 110 to Brown and the White to the boat's Earth (center prong). This will electrocute you when you touch any center prong on an AC outlet in the boat, the AC water pump, any bonding item such as the propeller or zinc...and may kill someone diving to clean your boat.
I hope this helps all who connect their Amels to US type 220VAC 60htz.
Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On Aug 20, 2016 6:07 AM, "James Wendell ms42phantom54@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
Alexandre, the blue wire goes to the neutral connection. The brown wire goes to the hot, and the green/yellow goes to ground.

I am confused where you indicate that you have US Red or Black going to Blue. Are you sure? In the US the white wire should be your neutral.

Jamie
 
s/v Phantom Amel 54 #044


On Friday, August 19, 2016 12:33 PM, "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups. com> wrote:


 
I have 2 shore powers.

The 220 Volt (like every body) and the (optional) 110 Volt going to the (optional) 110 to 220 Volt transformer.

The 220 Volt has 3 wires: Brown, Blue and Yellow/Green
Which are connected to my 50 Amp 125/250 Volt the following way:
US Black (110 Volt) goes to Brown
US Red or Black (110 Volt) goes to Blue
US Green (Ground) goes to Yellow/green
US White is not connected.

All good until there.

Please forgive my ignorance in advance for the coming question:

The110 Volt shore power has 3 wires:
Brown, Blue and Yellow/Green.

I plan on purchasing a 30 Amp 125 Volt socket which has:
Neutral, Hot and Ground

Which cables goes where…
Here is a picture:
http://nikimat.com/shore_ power_plug_125_volt.html

Thanks in advance.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico





Rocker Switch in lights above island counter

sailor63109@...
 

I can't seem to find replacement rocker switches for the lights above the island cabinet on my SM #477.  The switch is marked 43.409 and is still being made, but orders from the factory are in lots of 1,000.  


Anybody have a source?


I found a Bavaria Yachts forum where a fellow bought a large lot and has them available.  I'm about to write him to see if he has any left (www.bavaria.info/forum/index.php?topic=1116.0).


Duane

SM #477  Wanderer


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Alexandre- fresh water toilet flush conversion

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Thanks Eric!

Sincerely, Alexandre




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On Sat, 8/20/16, kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Alexandre- fresh water toilet flush conversion
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Saturday, August 20, 2016, 9:23 PM


 









Alexandre, I noticed that you flush your
toilets with fresh water. I you want to make this permanent
you can purchase Jabsco Valve part #37038-1024.

This will take water from your fresh water tank and flush
your toilet. It also has an anti siphon break.
Check it out.
Fair Winds, Eriv SM 376 Kimberlite


















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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Capacity AMFA Bilge Pump???

webercardio <webercardio@...>
 

If you need a bilge pump for security,  emergency reasons or to qualify for the insurance  look for Honda WX 15 waterpump. Works with fuel and pumps 150 - 1000 liter per minute. If a watertight compartment is flooded you use it from the deck via hatches. 
Wolfgang Weber SY Elise Amel  54 #162







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Thank you Bill!

I have a much better offer from Y Yacht Insurance that looks rather attractive, still some outstanding issues around the fine print
Paul on S/Y Kerpa SM#259


Re: Alexandre- fresh water toilet flush conversion

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