Thanks Bill

I will get in touch with both Riza and Maud to see who can get me one quicker. May also try the local Mercedes parts guys here in Brisbane too, just in case.

Here in Brisbane it's full speed ahead with many boat tasks and the other projects completed today was a new water pump on the Onan, a new Quick 40L hot water system installed and a new rear bumper all of which I'm pleased to report were dead easy installs..... till the bilge pump issue! Our hot water system just needed a new element however after all the discussions here on the forum about these lasting 5 - 8 years max, and ours being a 2008 unit, we decided to bite the bullet at 8yrs age and start our cruise with a new one instead.

Colin Streeter

Island Pearl II, Amel 53 #332

Brisbane

On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 10:04 PM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Colin,

I had a hard time finding that part. The gear section of the pump is identical to a Mercedes Benz wiper mechanism, but I do not know what year and model. I had someone in Turkey replace the white Delrin gear and he told me that he found it in a Mercedes parts distributor.

I heard that Maud now has this part. Check with her at SAV"at"Amel.fr. I also heard that Riza at Emek Marin in Turkey has the part. Check with him at cagdas"at"emekmarin.com

Good luck.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On Dec 9, 2016 6:51 AM, "'Colin.d.streeter' colin.d.streeter@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

We are just in the process of pulling our bilge pump apart right now too as the new gaskets have arrived from Amel.

Certainly from what we are looking at here Mark is correct that there are sufficient small bolts around the unit to hold the gaskets firmly in place. The important issue appears to be ensuring that the gaskets and holding plates all go back on the right way around.

Interestingly in our case the gaskets are in excellent condition but what we have now unfortunately found is a chunk of the little white cog broken with approx 5 teeth missing.  Due to this the motor turns but cannot make contact with and turn the white cog around to push the suction unit.

Has anyone else managed to fix this approx 1.25 cm gap or managed to get a replacement white cog from Amel or direct from the Italian pump supplier? We are without our computer here right now but do remember a comment some time back regarding fixing this with a drill bit which turned out well however our missing chunk is probably too large for that solution.

Any suggestions?

Colin & Lauren Streeter

Island Pearl II, Amel 53 #323

Brisbane 

On 9 Dec 2016, at 10:37 AM, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...om> wrote:

 

Jim,

 

I think there are plenty of screws to form a good seal without introducing a foreign element. I replaced mine a couple of years ago and did not use any sealants. I made sure the surfaces were clean before re-assembling the pump. I have not had any problems.

 

Hope this helps.

 

 

 

Wi th best regards,

 

Mark

 

Super Maramu 2000

Hull #275

www.creampuff.us

Currently cruising:  Tampa Bay, USA

 

From: amelyachtowners@...m [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 6:58 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...m
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bilge Pump Gasket replacement

 

 

Hope some can give me a little advice on replacing the gaskets on my original Amel installed bilge pump. I have a Super Maramu Hull #207.  I have replaced the gaskets once before but have developed a leak around the gaskets and am wondering if when I replace them this time is it advisable to also add silicone or some other sealer between the gaskets and the pump.  I have ordered the replacement gaskets form Amel and am aware that they have to be installed with one side towards the water as labeled on the Gaskets.

Thank you,

Jim DeSalvo, SM#207

 

--

Colin Streeter

0411 016 445

On Dec 9, 2016, at 9:16 AM, christian alby calbyy@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

no drawing, but had a look and repalced some of the plastic plugs (burn out)

those plugs 21mm dia. cover access to bolts which hold the cokpit hard top in place. 

they definetly need replacement when loose, or at least some sealant to avoid water ingress.

not easy to find similar items though; plastic plugs and clear silicone sealant do the trick on a temporary basis.

let me know if you find the supplier, I am still searching ...

fair wind

christian alby Maramu #168 Désirade VIII - sailing western mediterranea

---

De : "Graham Cresswell grahamjcresswell@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
À : amelyachtowners@... 
Envoyé le : Lundi 28 novembre 2016 22h24
Objet : [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu cockpit canopy

 

We're fairly naive Amelers and we've just noticed for the first time the 
sound of water sloshing from side to side in the forward base of the 
canopy over the cockpit in our Maramu. I notice that there are six 
plastic plugs along the forward surface of the base of the canopy and I 
imagine they may be for access to bolts that attach the canopy to the 
main superstructure but I have no evidence for that idea. We've had 
torrential rain for the past couple of weeks here in Barbados and I 
notice that one of the six plastic plugs is loose and it's possible that 
the rain got through.

Does anyone have diagrams or knowledge of how the canopy structure mates 
with the main superstructure or any experience of water ingress to that 
part?

With kind regards

Graham Cresswell

S/Y Jamesby
Maramu #240

 

Colin,

I had a hard time finding that part. The gear section of the pump is identical to a Mercedes Benz wiper mechanism, but I do not know what year and model. I had someone in Turkey replace the white Delrin gear and he told me that he found it in a Mercedes parts distributor.

I heard that Maud now has this part. Check with her at SAV"at"Amel.fr. I also heard that Riza at Emek Marin in Turkey has the part. Check with him at cagdas"at"emekmarin.com

Good luck.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On Dec 9, 2016 6:51 AM, "'Colin.d.streeter' colin.d.streeter@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

We are just in the process of pulling our bilge pump apart right now too as the new gaskets have arrived from Amel.

Certainly from what we are looking at here Mark is correct that there are sufficient small bolts around the unit to hold the gaskets firmly in place. The important issue appears to be ensuring that the gaskets and holding plates all go back on the right way around.

Interestingly in our case the gaskets are in excellent condition but what we have now unfortunately found is a chunk of the little white cog broken with approx 5 teeth missing.  Due to this the motor turns but cannot make contact with and turn the white cog around to push the suction unit.

Has anyone else managed to fix this approx 1.25 cm gap or managed to get a replacement white cog from Amel or direct from the Italian pump supplier? We are without our computer here right now but do remember a comment some time back regarding fixing this with a drill bit which turned out well however our missing chunk is probably too large for that solution.

Any suggestions?

Colin & Lauren Streeter

Island Pearl II, Amel 53 #323

Brisbane 

On 9 Dec 2016, at 10:37 AM, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...om> wrote:

 

Jim,

 

I think there are plenty of screws to form a good seal without introducing a foreign element. I replaced mine a couple of years ago and did not use any sealants. I made sure the surfaces were clean before re-assembling the pump. I have not had any problems.

 

Hope this helps.

 

 

 

Wi th best regards,

 

Mark

 

Super Maramu 2000

Hull #275

www.creampuff.us

Currently cruising:  Tampa Bay, USA

 

From: amelyachtowners@...m [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 6:58 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...m
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bilge Pump Gasket replacement

 

 

Hope some can give me a little advice on replacing the gaskets on my original Amel installed bilge pump. I have a Super Maramu Hull #207.  I have replaced the gaskets once before but have developed a leak around the gaskets and am wondering if when I replace them this time is it advisable to also add silicone or some other sealer between the gaskets and the pump.  I have ordered the replacement gaskets form Amel and am aware that they have to be installed with one side towards the water as labeled on the Gaskets.

Thank you,

Jim DeSalvo, SM#207

 

 

We are just in the process of pulling our bilge pump apart right now too as the new gaskets have arrived from Amel.

Certainly from what we are looking at here Mark is correct that there are sufficient small bolts around the unit to hold the gaskets firmly in place. The important issue appears to be ensuring that the gaskets and holding plates all go back on the right way around.

Interestingly in our case the gaskets are in excellent condition but what we have now unfortunately found is a chunk of the little white cog broken with approx 5 teeth missing.  Due to this the motor turns but cannot make contact with and turn the white cog around to push the suction unit.

Has anyone else managed to fix this approx 1.25 cm gap or managed to get a replacement white cog from Amel or direct from the Italian pump supplier? We are without our computer here right now but do remember a comment some time back regarding fixing this with a drill bit which turned out well however our missing chunk is probably too large for that solution.

Any suggestions?

Colin & Lauren Streeter

Island Pearl II, Amel 53 #323

Brisbane 

On 9 Dec 2016, at 10:37 AM, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Jim,

 

I think there are plenty of screws to form a good seal without introducing a foreign element. I replaced mine a couple of years ago and did not use any sealants. I made sure the surfaces were clean before re-assembling the pump. I have not had any problems.

 

Hope this helps.

 

 

 

Wi th best regards,

 

Mark

 

Super Maramu 2000

Hull #275

www.creampuff.us

Currently cruising:  Tampa Bay, USA

 

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 6:58 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bilge Pump Gasket replacement

 

 

Hope some can give me a little advice on replacing the gaskets on my original Amel installed bilge pump. I have a Super Maramu Hull #207.  I have replaced the gaskets once before but have developed a leak around the gaskets and am wondering if when I replace them this time is it advisable to also add silicone or some other sealer between the gaskets and the pump.  I have ordered the replacement gaskets form Amel and am aware that they have to be installed with one side towards the water as labeled on the Gaskets.

Thank you,

Jim DeSalvo, SM#207

 

 

Jim,

 

I think there are plenty of screws to form a good seal without introducing a foreign element. I replaced mine a couple of years ago and did not use any sealants. I made sure the surfaces were clean before re-assembling the pump. I have not had any problems.

 

Hope this helps.

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Super Maramu 2000

Hull #275

www.creampuff.us

Currently cruising:  Tampa Bay, USA

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 6:58 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bilge Pump Gasket replacement

 

 

Hope some can give me a little advice on replacing the gaskets on my original Amel installed bilge pump. I have a Super Maramu Hull #207.  I have replaced the gaskets once before but have developed a leak around the gaskets and am wondering if when I replace them this time is it advisable to also add silicone or some other sealer between the gaskets and the pump.  I have ordered the replacement gaskets form Amel and am aware that they have to be installed with one side towards the water as labeled on the Gaskets.

Thank you,

Jim DeSalvo, SM#207

 

 

Paul,

Bill Kinney reports his AGMs are to float at 26.6V (i.e. 13.3V).  

Trojan sternly warned my AGMs need to float at 27V (i.e. 13.5V) and not more, at 25 °C; less voltage at warmer battery temperatures.  Furthermore, my Trojans call for Bulk and Absorption at 28.8, with an absolute maximum of 29.4.

I discovered that neither of my Mastervolt chargers (100A, 30A) nor the Mastervolt alternator regulator offer factory settings that match the Trojan specifications; however, Mastervolt allows the user to use a PC (or a Mac) to program exact voltages as required by Trojan.  

I believe the same capability programming capability exists on Victron.

Cheerio,

Peregrinus

SM2K Nr. 350 (2002)

Venice

---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote :

Thanks for the replies. It seems that the float level of 13.6v is the general consensus. My chargers, Dolphin, which came with the boat, do not have a specific AGM setting. The nearest one is for "sealed lead" which gives 13.6v float but only 14.2v maximum whereas the West Marine website says that AGMs should take 14.7v max. So I guess I'll go with that unless someone advises otherwise.
Cheers,
Paul

 

How about the 24 volt alternator on the engine?
What Voltage does it give?
Is it appropriate for AGM batterie?

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Harbor View Marina, Tortola, BVI

--------------------------------------------
On Thu, 12/8/16, Bill Kinney greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Charging AGM batteries
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Thursday, December 8, 2016, 11:12 AM


 









Because of their internal
construction a full on classic thermal runaway is MUCH less
likely to occur with good agm batteries. Lifeline claims
they have never heard of it happening to their batteries.
You can however, melt them down if the voltage is too high
for too long causing the electrolyte to boil
off. 
Monitoring is
simple. Fully charge, disconnect the charge and load, and
then check voltage after a bit of time to rest. A shorted
cell will quickly pull the voltage for that one battery down
to 10.5. Otherwise, capacity testing and such can be the
same as a flooded battery. 
You'll also see a bad cell in
your charging amps at full charge. They'll never drop
down to the 0.3 amps or so that they should at the correct
float voltage when the batteries are full. 
Bill Kinney

On Dec 8,
2016, at 11:27, Kent Robertson karkauai@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:
















 






Wow! You were lucky you didn't have a
fire. I don't know the charge settings for AGM
batteries, but whenever you hook your new batteries up you
need to monitor the 30 amp charger closely. It's
entirely possible that you have a fault in your charger.
 This is just another example of why it is so important to
monitor your batteries closely. With AGM's I don't
know how you can monitor the batteries like you would
specific gravity in a flooded lead acid battery. I would
like to hear about this.
Since my last battery
mishap, I have quit leaving my charger on constantly while I
am off the boat. I have instead hired someone to come aboard
once a week to flush the Watermaker membranes and top the
batteries up with a 2 hour charge.

Kent
Sent from my
iPad
On Dec 8, 2016, at 9:47 AM,
sharongbrown@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:
















 






Hi,
I just came back to my boat
after three months and found that my entire bank of 12 AGM
batteries melted. I had left the 30A charger running. I am
in the processing of replacing them with new AGM batteries
(can't get anything else where I am in Grenada). I have
an Amel 54 #98 with Dolphin 100A and 30A chargers. Would
someone be able to advise which is the correct charge
setting I should  use on these chargers for charging AGM
batteries?
Thanks,PaulS/Y
Ya Fohi Amel 54 
































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