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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] amel super marameu

Alexandre Uster von Baar

One more note Steve,

If you are European and eventually plan to sail to Europe you will prefer VAT Paid.
If you are American you will save a little money if the VAT is not paid, but if you plan to sail then sell your vessel in Europe, VAT Paid would be more attractive for a buyer.

If I may expressed my opinion about “something you can just go”, this is a matter of individual interpretation.
Personally I spent 9 months learning the boat before starting my trip (I do work full time, also live full time onboard).
By learning the boat, I am mainly talking about maintenance and spare parts you need (for the engine, genset, transmission, bow thruster, all the pumps, restroom valve, etc.).

If you sail the US or European coasts no issue obtaining spare parts, but if you go further you have to be prepared.
Example: I spent almost 21 months in the Bahamas & Turks and Caicos the parts there will cost you 3.5 times what you would pay in the USA.
In Dominican Republic you will not get any parts, more precisely (even using UPS, Fedex, DHL), the parts will take “1 month” just going through custom with you calling several times a week, etc.
So be wise and prepared.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico



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On Sun, 10/9/16, mimtsqwbzz5xbfai4gco4otu3lpigperpq6qnatm@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] amel super marameu
 To: amelyachtowners@...
 Date: Sunday, October 9, 2016, 2:38 AM

       Hi we are looking to purchase an Amel
 to start our sailing adventures we are budgeting around
 120-160k.We are both in our fifties so
 we are looking for soemthing we can just up and go and not
 have to spend time repairing upgrading
 etc.ReagrdsSteve

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] amel super marameu

Alexandre Uster von Baar

#29572

Good morning Steve, 

Which country are you in and which currency are you talking about?  

I purchased my Super Maramu in 2012 from Jean Paul Bahuaud at Caribbean Yacht and have been very happy.  

They currently have 
http://www.caraibe-yachts.com/en/usedboats.php?search=builder&builder=1&length=0:0

In your price range they currently have Maramu and Mango (I have always love the Mango).  

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Victron Energy Centaur 24v 60amp charger

Alexandre Uster von Baar

#29571

Thanks for your reply Francisco!

Alexandre

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On Sat, 10/8/16, svperegrinus@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Victron Energy Centaur 24v 60amp charger
 To: amelyachtowners@...
 Date: Saturday, October 8, 2016, 11:10 PM


  









       Alexandre,
 On
 Peregrinus, the top of the 30A sits about 3cm higher than
 the top of the 100A.  
 Because Mastervolts cannot be
 installed sideways, the 100A stands, vertically, where the
 two Dolphins used to hang; and the 30A stands, on a backing,
 against the port side hull, on top of the shelf outboard of
 the gen set. The 30A is shorter, but its base sits higher
 than the 100A, so these both end up at about the same
 height.
 Having said
 that, clearly ventilation inward, where the 100A hangs, is
 better.  In fact, I have never gotten a temp alarm for the
 100A, whereas I do recall getting alarms from the 30A twice
 while I have owned the boat.  Add to this the fact the 30A
 was mis-installed for a couple of years —when we bought
 the boat, the 30A was installed below a Dolphin charger, the
 30A on its side!—, so it's been
 stressed.
 So there
 might be something to you thermal stress hypothesis.  More
 data needed!
 Cheers.
    
 —SM2K Nr. 350,
 en route, Sicily to Montenegro











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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: amel super marameu

Siviero Attilio <attilio.siviero@...>

#29570

My Santorin, #84 - now in Turkey-, with new Sails & Rigging and other improvements (solar panels, windgen, etc) is toward 160kEuros, which is the actual market price for this Amel if well kept

Attilio & Maria Siviero
Amel Santorin#84 "Sisila"

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Il giorno 09 ott 2016, alle ore 12:05, Ian Park parkianj@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> ha scritto:

Steve
Where are you? 120k what, $, £, €.
If £ you might find a well kept Santorin. Super Maramus can be 3 times that price.
Ian
Ocean Hobo SN96

Re: amel super marameu

Ian Park

#29569

Steve
Where are you? 120k what, $, £, €.
If £ you might find a well kept Santorin. Super Maramus can be 3 times that price.
Ian
Ocean Hobo SN96

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] amel super marameu

JOHN HAYES

#29568

Hi Steve from NZ. I have been lucky to purchase a Santorin 46 in NZ. There is a 41 footer in Noumea which is ready to go the husband died unexpectedly and another in Langkawi Island which also seemed to be in good condition and ready to go if either location worked for you. Perhaps try MR Google to look for Amel for sale but if you were interested I can probably find links to an owner in the case of Noumea or a broker in Langkawi.

Best

John

From: <amelyachtowners@...> on behalf of "mimtsqwbzz5xbfai4gco4otu3lpigperpq6qnatm@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
Reply-To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Sunday, 9 October 2016 at 8:38 PM
To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] amel super marameu

Hi we are looking to purchase an Amel to start our sailing adventures we are budgeting around 120-160k.

We are both in our fifties so we are looking for soemthing we can just up and go and not have to spend time repairing upgrading etc.

Reagrds

Steve

Rebedding original handrails

James Alton

#29567

Hello,

I was hoping that someone might know how the stainless tubing forming the handrails on the cabintops is fastened down? I have some rust in the area that the handrail sits on the fiberglass in a couple of places so I am concerned that moisture is being held in those areas. I do not have any obvious leakage below at all.

Thanks,

James Alton

SV Sueno, Maramu #220

Sardinina, Italy

amel super marameu

mimtsqwbzz5xbfai4gco4otu3lpigperpq6qnatm@...

#29566

Hi we are looking to purchase an Amel to start our sailing adventures we are budgeting around 120-160k.

We are both in our fifties so we are looking for soemthing we can just up and go and not have to spend time repairing upgrading etc.

Reagrds

Steve

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Victron Energy Centaur 24v 60amp charger

svperegrinus@yahoo.com

#29565

Alexandre,

On Peregrinus, the top of the 30A sits about 3cm higher than the top of the 100A.

Because Mastervolts cannot be installed sideways, the 100A stands, vertically, where the two Dolphins used to hang; and the 30A stands, on a backing, against the port side hull, on top of the shelf outboard of the gen set. The 30A is shorter, but its base sits higher than the 100A, so these both end up at about the same height.

Having said that, clearly ventilation inward, where the 100A hangs, is better. In fact, I have never gotten a temp alarm for the 100A, whereas I do recall getting alarms from the 30A twice while I have owned the boat. Add to this the fact the 30A was mis-installed for a couple of years —when we bought the boat, the 30A was installed below a Dolphin charger, the 30A on its side!—, so it's been stressed.

So there might be something to you thermal stress hypothesis. More data needed!

Cheers.

—SM2K Nr. 350, en route, Sicily to Montenegro

Re: Lofrans Tigres Windlass rebuild question

Thomas Peacock

#29564

Many thanks to Steve and others. Indeed with much difficulty, the rope drum and clutch came off; the springs were totally encrusted with salt. I have not put it back together again (will use new springs in the rebuild kit), but I see no reason why it should not work.

As an aside, we have had a sailmaker construct a small cover for the windlass. Hope that it will cut down on salt residue as well as UV degradation of control buttons.

This forum is invaluable!

Tom Peacock

SM Aletes #240

Chesapeake Bay, USA; Florida and Bahamas in 3 weeks

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SeaBean SM#344

VLADIMIR SONSEV

#29563

Hi James,

I have SM #345 "Life is Good".
I bought her in Trinidad one year ago.
My boat was made just after your.
I live in Annapolis. We will stay home this year.
I hope to see you and your boat some day.

Vladimir and Marina
202 258 1916

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On Oct 8, 2016 03:41, "James Studdart james.studdart@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Hi Bill,
We have crew/friends arriving on the 25th of October and will then be watching the weather. I don't expect we'll leave until early November.

Cheers,
James.
On Sat, Oct 8, 2016 at 12:08 AM 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

James,

Welcome to the Group.

When do you cross?

Bill
BeBe 387

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 5:49 PM, James Studdart james.studdart@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Hi All,
although I've been a fairly quiet member of this group for some time now, I thought that I would mention Chloe and I are the new(ish) owners SeaBean (SM#344). Well, actually, we have owned her for months. Time flies with two young children and boat projects! Sorry for the late introduction.

We bought the boat from Michel and had the survey done by Olivier (Merci pour le très bon travail!). We felt doing that gave us the best chance at a good boat and so far, I think we've done pretty well.

Shortly after we bought the boat we had the rigging replaced by X-Voiles in Hyeres. Although we did have a problem that only came to light in the Gibraltar, they flew out to the Canaries when we arrived and took care of it. As much as we'd all like everything to be perfect first time, I can't say enough about how important customer service is and they really came through. As mentioned before, Olivier at X-Voiles, is a wonderful resource of knowledge and showed me a great deal as he was working on the rig. He knows the rigs of these boats exceptionally well.

And, we have new sails from Q-Sails in turkey (Thanks Bill/Bebe). We only just received them up before we left Gibraltar, but they are very nice indeed.

Thanks to this group I've managed to take care of all the big items of maintenance and service. Although I could probably have struggled through it, I hate to think how much longer it'd take, especially with the kids running around. Thank you all so much!

Anyway, just wanted to say hello and I hope to run into you as we go.

Cheers,
James & Chloe Studdart
SeaBean SM#344
Las Palmas, Grand Canaria

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] 24V DC motors for main sail

Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>

#29562

Hello Robin,

If I had the same problem, I would seek a “automotive electrical rebuilder” and have the motor overhauled.

BUT, if you find the source for a suitable replacement for these motors, I too would like to know.

Cheers to both of you, leaving for Salvagens islands tomorrow then onto Lanzarote.

Jean-Pierre Germain,

Eleuthera, SM007

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On 8 Oct 2016, at 14:31, robin6658@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Dear gang

Does anybody have a source for the 24V DC motors on main furler and outhaul gear boxes on an older SM? I know the newer SMs have another gear box and therefore most probably also a different motor. I found the original gear boy from Bonfiglioli for about 80 euros at sotek.it, but cannot find the motor. It has a diameter of about 83 mm and is approx. 153 mm long - there are 4 cables going to the releis in the guest bathroom, not only 2.

Cheers
Robin
ASM #56
presently in Greece
www.gros-doux.com

24V DC motors for main sail

robin hutter

#29561

Dear gang

Does anybody have a source for the 24V DC motors on main furler and outhaul gear boxes on an older SM? I know the newer SMs have another gear box and therefore most probably also a different motor. I found the original gear boy from Bonfiglioli for about 80 euros at sotek.it, but cannot find the motor. It has a diameter of about 83 mm and is approx. 153 mm long - there are 4 cables going to the releis in the guest bathroom, not only 2.

Cheers

Robin

ASM #56

presently in Greece

www.gros-doux.com

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SeaBean SM#344

James Studdart

#29560

Hi Bill,
We have crew/friends arriving on the 25th of October and will then be watching the weather. I don't expect we'll leave until early November.

Cheers,
James.

On Sat, Oct 8, 2016 at 12:08 AM 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

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James,

Welcome to the Group.

When do you cross?

Bill
BeBe 387

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 5:49 PM, James Studdart james.studdart@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Hi All,
although I've been a fairly quiet member of this group for some time now, I thought that I would mention Chloe and I are the new(ish) owners SeaBean (SM#344). Well, actually, we have owned her for months. Time flies with two young children and boat projects! Sorry for the late introduction.

We bought the boat from Michel and had the survey done by Olivier (Merci pour le très bon travail!). We felt doing that gave us the best chance at a good boat and so far, I think we've done pretty well.

Shortly after we bought the boat we had the rigging replaced by X-Voiles in Hyeres. Although we did have a problem that only came to light in the Gibraltar, they flew out to the Canaries when we arrived and took care of it. As much as we'd all like everything to be perfect first time, I can't say enough about how important customer service is and they really came through. As mentioned before, Olivier at X-Voiles, is a wonderful resource of knowledge and showed me a great deal as he was working on the rig. He knows the rigs of these boats exceptionally well.

And, we have new sails from Q-Sails in turkey (Thanks Bill/Bebe). We only just received them up before we left Gibraltar, but they are very nice indeed.

Thanks to this group I've managed to take care of all the big items of maintenance and service. Although I could probably have struggled through it, I hate to think how much longer it'd take, especially with the kids running around. Thank you all so much!

Anyway, just wanted to say hello and I hope to run into you as we go.

Cheers,
James & Chloe Studdart
SeaBean SM#344
Las Palmas, Grand Canaria

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SeaBean SM#344

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>

#29559

James,

Welcome to the Group.

When do you cross?

Bill

BeBe 387

On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 5:49 PM, James Studdart james.studdart@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Show quoted text

Hi All,
although I've been a fairly quiet member of this group for some time now, I thought that I would mention Chloe and I are the new(ish) owners SeaBean (SM#344). Well, actually, we have owned her for months. Time flies with two young children and boat projects! Sorry for the late introduction.

We bought the boat from Michel and had the survey done by Olivier (Merci pour le très bon travail!). We felt doing that gave us the best chance at a good boat and so far, I think we've done pretty well.

Shortly after we bought the boat we had the rigging replaced by X-Voiles in Hyeres. Although we did have a problem that only came to light in the Gibraltar, they flew out to the Canaries when we arrived and took care of it. As much as we'd all like everything to be perfect first time, I can't say enough about how important customer service is and they really came through. As mentioned before, Olivier at X-Voiles, is a wonderful resource of knowledge and showed me a great deal as he was working on the rig. He knows the rigs of these boats exceptionally well.

And, we have new sails from Q-Sails in turkey (Thanks Bill/Bebe). We only just received them up before we left Gibraltar, but they are very nice indeed.

Thanks to this group I've managed to take care of all the big items of maintenance and service. Although I could probably have struggled through it, I hate to think how much longer it'd take, especially with the kids running around. Thank you all so much!

Anyway, just wanted to say hello and I hope to run into you as we go.

Cheers,
James & Chloe Studdart
SeaBean SM#344
Las Palmas, Grand Canaria

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SeaBean SM#344

Alexandre Uster von Baar

#29558

Hello James & Chloe

Congratulations on your SM2K and welcome to our wonderful group!

You couldn’t pick a better person than Olivier which we all thank for sharing his knowledge!

Thanks for sharing the X-voile overall positive experience!

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico

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On Fri, 10/7/16, James Studdart james.studdart@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] SeaBean SM#344
 To: amelyachtowners@...
 Date: Friday, October 7, 2016, 4:49 PM


  









       Hi All, although I've
 been a fairly quiet member of this group for some time now,
 I thought that I would mention Chloe and I are the new(ish)
 owners SeaBean (SM#344). Well, actually, we have owned her
 for months. Time flies with two young children and boat
 projects! Sorry for the late introduction.
 We bought the boat from Michel and
 had the survey done by Olivier (Merci pour le très bon
 travail!). We felt doing that gave us the best chance at a
 good boat and so far, I think we've done pretty
 well.
 Shortly after we
 bought the boat we had the rigging replaced by X-Voiles in
 Hyeres. Although we did have a problem that only came to
 light in the Gibraltar, they flew out to the Canaries when
 we arrived and took care of it. As much as we'd all like
 everything to be perfect first time, I can't say enough
 about how important customer service is and they really came
 through. As mentioned before, Olivier at X-Voiles, is a
 wonderful resource of knowledge and showed me a great deal
 as he was working on the rig. He knows the rigs of these
 boats exceptionally well.
 And, we have new sails from Q-Sails
 in turkey (Thanks Bill/Bebe). We only just received them up
 before we left Gibraltar, but they are very nice
 indeed.
 Thanks to this
 group I've managed to take care of all the big items of
 maintenance and service. Although I could probably have
 struggled through it, I hate to think how much longer
 it'd take, especially with the kids running around.
 Thank you all so much! 
 Anyway, just wanted to say hello and
 I hope to run into you as we go.
 Cheers, James &
 Chloe Studdart SeaBean SM#344 Las
 Palmas, Grand Canaria

SeaBean SM#344

James Studdart

#29557

Hi All,

although I've been a fairly quiet member of this group for some time now, I thought that I would mention Chloe and I are the new(ish) owners SeaBean (SM#344). Well, actually, we have owned her for months. Time flies with two young children and boat projects! Sorry for the late introduction.

We bought the boat from Michel and had the survey done by Olivier (Merci pour le très bon travail!). We felt doing that gave us the best chance at a good boat and so far, I think we've done pretty well.

Shortly after we bought the boat we had the rigging replaced by X-Voiles in Hyeres. Although we did have a problem that only came to light in the Gibraltar, they flew out to the Canaries when we arrived and took care of it. As much as we'd all like everything to be perfect first time, I can't say enough about how important customer service is and they really came through. As mentioned before, Olivier at X-Voiles, is a wonderful resource of knowledge and showed me a great deal as he was working on the rig. He knows the rigs of these boats exceptionally well.

And, we have new sails from Q-Sails in turkey (Thanks Bill/Bebe). We only just received them up before we left Gibraltar, but they are very nice indeed.

Thanks to this group I've managed to take care of all the big items of maintenance and service. Although I could probably have struggled through it, I hate to think how much longer it'd take, especially with the kids running around. Thank you all so much!

Anyway, just wanted to say hello and I hope to run into you as we go.

Cheers,

James & Chloe Studdart

SeaBean SM#344

Las Palmas, Grand Canaria

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Victron Energy Centaur 24v 60amp charger

william_maffei@...

#29556

Hey Alexandre -

Thanks for your comments! As always! I am not sure what is happening right now but as we speak the charger is running normally (26.3v in float). When I run the engine for extended periods of time my engine room never exceeds 40C and while on my slip connected to shore power the engine room is around 24C. On hot days it might be around 31C tops. Also note: this is with the charger turned on and the transformer humming away.

I guess at the moment I am fine with not running the charger while I am away from the boat as I have plenty of power and solar energy to likely run the boat for weeks without it turned on. While I cruise I only have the charger on while the genset is running for about 2 hours a day so again, this causes not problems.

The strange part is that if I notice it goes to lower amps at 100% charge and still puts out 28.4v, I simply turn the charger off wait and hour and turn it back on and it works fine again and moves to float at 26.3v. This is perplexing to me.

I guess it really pays off to know you boat and all its systems. I am very in tune with anything out of the ordinary on board.

Again, thoughts and comments from other owners are welcome. I am by no means qualified to remedy this problem.

Bill Maffei

It's all Good

Sm #195

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Yanmar 100HP impeller: clockwise or counterclockwise?

svperegrinus@yahoo.com

#29555

Thank you Bill and Mark! Isn't it amazing that both your instructors emphasised the same thing!

Bestest,

Peregrinus

Naxos (Sicily)

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Victron Energy Centaur 24v 60amp charger

Alexandre Uster von Baar

#29554

Hello Bill,

I don’t know anything, this is only a suspicion:
Here is my train of thought:

I had the original 30 and 50 amp Dolphin chargers.
My 50 Amp failed (2 years ago in Nassau), I was surprised as I use it much less…
Thinking my 30 was failing I also replaced it, so now have a 40 and 60 MDP (they purchased Dolphin).
Recently the display of the 60 failed…  (same thing surprised as I use it less).
But I noted both are at the top of the engine room.

I suspect is the temperature is getting too high at the top, even with both blowers working, it is not enough.

When motoring or using the genset, I constantly monitor the engine room temperature because I am afraid of reaching 50*C which will start melting the Onan control board.
I often end up opening the engine room hatch, but still get 47*C a little over the Generator where my gage is.
The temperature will be higher at the top of the engine room (where the charger is).

One of my project is to improve the engine room ventilation.
Several options on paper, from simple blower to just move the air or additional extractor blower like we have.
haven’t committed yet to one.
Idea are welcome of course!

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico



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On Fri, 10/7/16, william_maffei@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Victron Energy Centaur 24v 60amp charger
 To: amelyachtowners@...
 Date: Friday, October 7, 2016, 7:02 AM

       I have a Heart Charger in the aft cabin closet that
 works fine but I use it as a back up. I use the Victron as
 my primary and that is located in the engine room on the
 same shelf as the transformer. So yes it is at the top of
 the engine room. What do you know Alexandre!!!
 :) 
 Why would this all
 of a sudden happen when things have not be changed in over
 1.5 years? 
 Bill
 MSM#195It's all Good