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Hurth Transmission Coolers

greatketch@...
 

One of the things that Joel told me to keep on my maintenance schedule was inspection of the Hurth Transmission cooler for corrosion.  Many thanks to him for mentioning it, it is something I would have missed.  Sure enough, mine needed to be replaced.


It's very much a crappy design:  A cast aluminum box made part of the engine galvanic electrical circuit.  Not surprising that it has issues. I have read rumors that there is a stainless steel version also available, but that would have its own problems.  Stainless has a much lower thermal conductivity than aluminum, so it wouldn't cool as efficiently. 


I installed a new aluminum cooler, and modified it to accept a zinc anode.  You can see photos and some more details on our blog here:  An engine project.


Bill Kinney

Harmonie, SM #160

Block Island, RI

"Men and ships rot in port."

http://fetchinketch.net

 


Oman won't start!

Mawgan grace
 

Hi all. I haven't run my 3yr old Onan generator for about 1-2months. It turns over but won't even think about starting. I've changed the fuel filter, both relays and water pump. The fuel pump is ticking away and my main fuel tank has just over half fuel level left. I've primed it for 30sec to a minute but no joy. Any ideas??

Thanks

Mawgan
SM Jovic #310
Gold Coast Hong Kong

SM Jovic #310
Hong Kong Gold Coast


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dry dock bilge usage?

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

Given the amount of condensation over the winter yep pump it. 
Second depending on location keep a dehumidifier going and draining into the bilge is a good way to reduce the MOLD factor. And yes you have to put full strength anti freeze in the bilge too. 

Fair Winds Smooth Sailing 
Capt Richard Piller
Newport RI 
Cell 603 767 5330

On Aug 26, 2016, at 18:42, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Any reason we couldn't power the bilge pump from the battery side of the main switches?  That's how my charger is wired.

I really don't think a functioning sump pump is necessary when on the hard, but when in the water, it would be nice to have a functioning sump pump, but turn everything else off.
Kent "Patch"
SM 243
Kristy 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dry dock bilge usage?

karkauai
 

Any reason we couldn't power the bilge pump from the battery side of the main switches?  That's how my charger is wired.

I really don't think a functioning sump pump is necessary when on the hard, but when in the water, it would be nice to have a functioning sump pump, but turn everything else off.
Kent "Patch"
SM 243
Kristy 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dry dock bilge usage?

Patrick McAneny
 

Joel, I have always noticed that about you , can't drag an opinion out of you . Anyway , Thanks again for looking through your stash for a new prop . Maud is back , emailed me and will be sending one out on Monday . Have a good weekend.
Pat SM #123


-----Original Message-----
From: 'Joel Potter' jfpottercys@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Fri, Aug 26, 2016 3:51 pm
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dry dock bilge usage?

 
DOH! Pat, you are correct. When I said to shut off ALL the circuit breakers if you leave the red handled positive and negative master switches just next to the batteries in the ON position, I should have mentioned ALL EXCEPT THE BILGE PUMP BREAKER IN THE ENGINE ROOM. On every unmodified ( don’t get me started…) SM 53 I have seen, the bilge pump power supply is indeed cut off when you turn off both red handled master switches. And while I expect a happy go lucky Irishman like yourself to generally be cracking wise, regarding suggestions, you know I never have much of an opinion about anything. I’ll alert Joe privately, thanks for the catch.
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 2:01 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dry dock bilge usage?
 
 
Joel, I am in the habit of turning off the main breakers when I leave the boat for any time, just feel better about it. That's with one exception , that electric to my bilge pump is also shut off. Is that just my boat or all SMs ? I am accustomed to bilge pumps being directly wired to the batteries . On one hand , I like not having electric running through the boat , but don't like , not having the bilge pump electrified . Thoughts, suggestions , I know you have them .
Wisecrack intended,
Pat SM#123

-----Original Message-----
From: 'Joel Potter' jfpottercys@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Aug 26, 2016 1:19 pm
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dry dock bilge usage?
 
Hello Joe. All good advice regarding drainage while on the hard. Pat is very correct about a positive bow up angle. Place a level on the cockpit sole and make sure the bubble is floating forward. Otherwise any water that gets inside won’t be able to flow aft to the bilge sump in the engine room. While even more important for longer term storage than the 2 months you’ll be absent, an incredible amount of water can make its way inside the boat during tropical waves, depressions, storms and hurricanes through the anchor hawse and the masts. It is a good idea to get an expanding foam product at any hardware store  like GREAT STUFF greatstuff ‘dot‘ dow ‘dot’ com and fill the hawse hole that the anchor chain goes down to prevent water coming in. It works even better if you separate the chain from the anchor and drop the chain into the chain locker ( and put the anchor out of sight in a foredeck locker for safe keeping ), but you can use the foam around the anchor chain and it will stop almost all the water. Very easy to remove the foam and if you are lazy, a trip or two through the windlass makes it go away. Quite a bit of water can come in through the main mast in a driving rainstorm. Make sure that the small waterway passage (under the main mast inside the boat just overhead and outboard of the forward head ) that goes from the water trap that catches any water coming in from the mast ( all the mast wires for lights and electronics run through this water trap ) that feeds this water to the drain hole that is close to the shower head ( that allows the water to escape into the shower drain pan and make its way aft to the bilge sump ) is open and clear. I don’t know how the seeds the birds ‘expel’ while sitting in the rig end up inside the mast and then into this water trap, but they do and plug up the drain with not good results when the water trap overflows. Here in Florida, we check them monthly on the boats I have for sale or under my care. Yours was clean and clear when you left! If you leave the battery switches on, be sure to turn of ALL the dc/12-24 volt breakers. ALL including the ones in the hanging locker next to/aft of the navigation desk, and all the ones for the winches, windlass, furlers and all the ones in the engine room too. The stories I could tell you after 35 years of Amel adventures would seem too far-fetched to be believed but if the breaker ain’t on, nothing bad can happen to flatten the batteries. Or worse. I’ll tell you over an adult beverage next time we meet. Be sure to test the bilge pump switch for easy reliable operation. It’s a good time to carefully take the assembly for the bilge pump floater switch apart and clean it meticulously of all dirt, grease, hair and other nasty stuff. If not cleaned, this ‘goop’ can harden when it dries if it isn’t getting wet every day, and trap the switch float in the off or on position. Seen it happen twice. Not good either way. Be sure that the boat stands/cradle don’t cover up the cockpit drains ( unlikely but…) or the bilge pump exit .
Now you won’t wake up in the middle of the night and wonder ‘what if’.
Have fun with your Amel!
Joel
Joel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist LLC
THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY
954 462 5869 office
954 812 2485 cell
 

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Interior varnish.

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi all
I have always thought the quality of the varnished timberwork on the SM to be a remarkable feature. I have never seen better on any boat and few maintain that quality for the years that an Amel does
To maintain that I have regularly gone over ever square inch of varnish with a good furniture polish. Just completed another polish and it looks so good, the timber glows. Takes a while but makes a change from engine room work.
Danny
Sm 299
Ocean Pearl


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dry dock bilge usage?

amelforme
 

DOH! Pat, you are correct. When I said to shut off ALL the circuit breakers if you leave the red handled positive and negative master switches just next to the batteries in the ON position, I should have mentioned ALL EXCEPT THE BILGE PUMP BREAKER IN THE ENGINE ROOM. On every unmodified ( don’t get me started…) SM 53 I have seen, the bilge pump power supply is indeed cut off when you turn off both red handled master switches. And while I expect a happy go lucky Irishman like yourself to generally be cracking wise, regarding suggestions, you know I never have much of an opinion about anything. I’ll alert Joe privately, thanks for the catch.

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 2:01 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dry dock bilge usage?

 

 

Joel, I am in the habit of turning off the main breakers when I leave the boat for any time, just feel better about it. That's with one exception , that electric to my bilge pump is also shut off. Is that just my boat or all SMs ? I am accustomed to bilge pumps being directly wired to the batteries . On one hand , I like not having electric running through the boat , but don't like , not having the bilge pump electrified . Thoughts, suggestions , I know you have them .

Wisecrack intended,

Pat SM#123

-----Original Message-----
From: 'Joel Potter' jfpottercys@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Aug 26, 2016 1:19 pm
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dry dock bilge usage?

 

Hello Joe. All good advice regarding drainage while on the hard. Pat is very correct about a positive bow up angle. Place a level on the cockpit sole and make sure the bubble is floating forward. Otherwise any water that gets inside won’t be able to flow aft to the bilge sump in the engine room. While even more important for longer term storage than the 2 months you’ll be absent, an incredible amount of water can make its way inside the boat during tropical waves, depressions, storms and hurricanes through the anchor hawse and the masts. It is a good idea to get an expanding foam product at any hardware store  like GREAT STUFF greatstuff ‘dot‘ dow ‘dot’ com and fill the hawse hole that the anchor chain goes down to prevent water coming in. It works even better if you separate the chain from the anchor and drop the chain into the chain locker ( and put the anchor out of sight in a foredeck locker for safe keeping ), but you can use the foam around the anchor chain and it will stop almost all the water. Very easy to remove the foam and if you are lazy, a trip or two through the windlass makes it go away. Quite a bit of water can come in through the main mast in a driving rainstorm. Make sure that the small waterway passage (under the main mast inside the boat just overhead and outboard of the forward head ) that goes from the water trap that catches any water coming in from the mast ( all the mast wires for lights and electronics run through this water trap ) that feeds this water to the drain hole that is close to the shower head ( that allows the water to escape into the shower drain pan and make its way aft to the bilge sump ) is open and clear. I don’t know how the seeds the birds ‘expel’ while sitting in the rig end up inside the mast and then into this water trap, but they do and plug up the drain with not good results when the water trap overflows. Here in Florida, we check them monthly on the boats I have for sale or under my care. Yours was clean and clear when you left! If you leave the battery switches on, be sure to turn of ALL the dc/12-24 volt breakers. ALL including the ones in the hanging locker next to/aft of the navigation desk, and all the ones for the winches, windlass, furlers and all the ones in the engine room too. The stories I could tell you after 35 years of Amel adventures would seem too far-fetched to be believed but if the breaker ain’t on, nothing bad can happen to flatten the batteries. Or worse. I’ll tell you over an adult beverage next time we meet. Be sure to test the bilge pump switch for easy reliable operation. It’s a good time to carefully take the assembly for the bilge pump floater switch apart and clean it meticulously of all dirt, grease, hair and other nasty stuff. If not cleaned, this ‘goop’ can harden when it dries if it isn’t getting wet every day, and trap the switch float in the off or on position. Seen it happen twice. Not good either way. Be sure that the boat stands/cradle don’t cover up the cockpit drains ( unlikely but…) or the bilge pump exit .

Now you won’t wake up in the middle of the night and wonder ‘what if’.

Have fun with your Amel!

Joel

Joel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist LLC

THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

954 462 5869 office

954 812 2485 cell

 


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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Which Autopilot drive Rotary or Linear?

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Bill, that's the irony of storm sails. In building conditions we can be quite comfortable sailing with the big Genoa part furled, but those same conditions are beyond what we want to face on the fore deck handing that huge sail. A hard call. When having a new 150% headsail made I told the sail maker not to weight the cloth for the moderate winds the full sail would be used in, but for the strong winds it would be used in partly furled. Their first try was way too light and I sent it back and they provided the right weight at their cost.
Cheers
Danny
Sm 299
Ocean Pearl

Sent from my Vodafone Smart

On Aug 27, 2016 1:54 AM, "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Paul,

We had a new ATN "Gale Sail" on board, but the conditions prohibited bending this sail on to the Genoa Furler. I sold the Gale Sail afterwards...it had never been used. We mostly used about 2.3 meters of the Genoa and about half of the Mizzen for most of the high winds. When winds subsided to about 35kts, we added about 50% the main and more of the Genoa. We preferred to keep the boat speed under 7kts.

Bill
BeBe 387

On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 8:44 AM, osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thank you Bill!

That trigger an other question,
What canvas did you use at that condition?
We made very good speed at 30 knots of wind with half the Genua pooled out, but I guess it difficult to have it further furled I got the impression that the top will "fall" out and flog a lot if further furled:
Paul on S/Y Kerpa SM#259



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dry dock bilge usage?

Patrick McAneny
 

Joel, I am in the habit of turning off the main breakers when I leave the boat for any time, just feel better about it. That's with one exception , that electric to my bilge pump is also shut off. Is that just my boat or all SMs ? I am accustomed to bilge pumps being directly wired to the batteries . On one hand , I like not having electric running through the boat , but don't like , not having the bilge pump electrified . Thoughts, suggestions , I know you have them .
Wisecrack intended,
Pat SM#123


-----Original Message-----
From: 'Joel Potter' jfpottercys@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Aug 26, 2016 1:19 pm
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dry dock bilge usage?

 
Hello Joe. All good advice regarding drainage while on the hard. Pat is very correct about a positive bow up angle. Place a level on the cockpit sole and make sure the bubble is floating forward. Otherwise any water that gets inside won’t be able to flow aft to the bilge sump in the engine room. While even more important for longer term storage than the 2 months you’ll be absent, an incredible amount of water can make its way inside the boat during tropical waves, depressions, storms and hurricanes through the anchor hawse and the masts. It is a good idea to get an expanding foam product at any hardware store  like GREAT STUFF greatstuff ‘dot‘ dow ‘dot’ com and fill the hawse hole that the anchor chain goes down to prevent water coming in. It works even better if you separate the chain from the anchor and drop the chain into the chain locker ( and put the anchor out of sight in a foredeck locker for safe keeping ), but you can use the foam around the anchor chain and it will stop almost all the water. Very easy to remove the foam and if you are lazy, a trip or two through the windlass makes it go away. Quite a bit of water can come in through the main mast in a driving rainstorm. Make sure that the small waterway passage (under the main mast inside the boat just overhead and outboard of the forward head ) that goes from the water trap that catches any water coming in from the mast ( all the mast wires for lights and electronics run through this water trap ) that feeds this water to the drain hole that is close to the shower head ( that allows the water to escape into the shower drain pan and make its way aft to the bilge sump ) is open and clear. I don’t know how the seeds the birds ‘expel’ while sitting in the rig end up inside the mast and then into this water trap, but they do and plug up the drain with not good results when the water trap overflows. Here in Florida, we check them monthly on the boats I have for sale or under my care. Yours was clean and clear when you left! If you leave the battery switches on, be sure to turn of ALL the dc/12-24 volt breakers. ALL including the ones in the hanging locker next to/aft of the navigation desk, and all the ones for the winches, windlass, furlers and all the ones in the engine room too. The stories I could tell you after 35 years of Amel adventures would seem too far-fetched to be believed but if the breaker ain’t on, nothing bad can happen to flatten the batteries. Or worse. I’ll tell you over an adult beverage next time we meet. Be sure to test the bilge pump switch for easy reliable operation. It’s a good time to carefully take the assembly for the bilge pump floater switch apart and clean it meticulously of all dirt, grease, hair and other nasty stuff. If not cleaned, this ‘goop’ can harden when it dries if it isn’t getting wet every day, and trap the switch float in the off or on position. Seen it happen twice. Not good either way. Be sure that the boat stands/cradle don’t cover up the cockpit drains ( unlikely but…) or the bilge pump exit .
Now you won’t wake up in the middle of the night and wonder ‘what if’.
Have fun with your Amel!
Joel
Joel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist LLC
THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY
954 462 5869 office
954 812 2485 cell
 

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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dry dock bilge usage?

Joe Nance
 

Thank you everyone for the great advice!

I've now got a little more work to do before we leave Provo!

On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 10:05 AM, cloudstreet100@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi All,


Tracie & I are returning to the States for 1 - 2 months and have had the boat hauled at the Caicos shipyard in Providenciales.  She is secured in their 'Hurricane Section' which has large cement blocks buried about 8' down for their anchors.


My question is; Should the power to the automatic bilge be left on?  There is no power available to the boat while it's hauled. To conserve the batteries, I'm trying to decide if I should disconnect all of the power at the batteries via the two large red handles or should they be left on so that the bilge can operate?  What happens it the boat gets a large amount of rain during a storm or hurricane when it is secured on dry land?


I know that while in the water if the cockpit is hit with a lot of water it is supposed to evacuate it rapidly,, but I don't know exactly how this is accomplished.


Thank you,


Joe & Tracie

SV CloudStreet, hull 331

Providenciales, TCI



Re: Latches for lockers and drawers

Walter Kleiner
 

Sorry for the typo,
it´s
www.onmar.se


Latches for lockers and drawers

Walter Kleiner
 

Dear group,
Amel used different turn latches on different models.
Noa (SM2K 436) has Mobella turn latches - good design but there is a tiny device inside the latch which brakes sometimes.
Last time I checked they only sold complete latches - now they sell the tiny device and ship worldwide.
www.onmar.de
http://www.onmar.se/door-locks/spare-parts/novibra-turner

 

I´ll put a photo of the latch used on Noa under the photo section.

Kind regards,
Walter (Noa, SM2K 436)



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dry dock bilge usage?

amelforme
 

Hello Joe. All good advice regarding drainage while on the hard. Pat is very correct about a positive bow up angle. Place a level on the cockpit sole and make sure the bubble is floating forward. Otherwise any water that gets inside won’t be able to flow aft to the bilge sump in the engine room. While even more important for longer term storage than the 2 months you’ll be absent, an incredible amount of water can make its way inside the boat during tropical waves, depressions, storms and hurricanes through the anchor hawse and the masts. It is a good idea to get an expanding foam product at any hardware store  like GREAT STUFF greatstuff ‘dot‘ dow ‘dot’ com and fill the hawse hole that the anchor chain goes down to prevent water coming in. It works even better if you separate the chain from the anchor and drop the chain into the chain locker ( and put the anchor out of sight in a foredeck locker for safe keeping ), but you can use the foam around the anchor chain and it will stop almost all the water. Very easy to remove the foam and if you are lazy, a trip or two through the windlass makes it go away. Quite a bit of water can come in through the main mast in a driving rainstorm. Make sure that the small waterway passage (under the main mast inside the boat just overhead and outboard of the forward head ) that goes from the water trap that catches any water coming in from the mast ( all the mast wires for lights and electronics run through this water trap ) that feeds this water to the drain hole that is close to the shower head ( that allows the water to escape into the shower drain pan and make its way aft to the bilge sump ) is open and clear. I don’t know how the seeds the birds ‘expel’ while sitting in the rig end up inside the mast and then into this water trap, but they do and plug up the drain with not good results when the water trap overflows. Here in Florida, we check them monthly on the boats I have for sale or under my care. Yours was clean and clear when you left! If you leave the battery switches on, be sure to turn of ALL the dc/12-24 volt breakers. ALL including the ones in the hanging locker next to/aft of the navigation desk, and all the ones for the winches, windlass, furlers and all the ones in the engine room too. The stories I could tell you after 35 years of Amel adventures would seem too far-fetched to be believed but if the breaker ain’t on, nothing bad can happen to flatten the batteries. Or worse. I’ll tell you over an adult beverage next time we meet. Be sure to test the bilge pump switch for easy reliable operation. It’s a good time to carefully take the assembly for the bilge pump floater switch apart and clean it meticulously of all dirt, grease, hair and other nasty stuff. If not cleaned, this ‘goop’ can harden when it dries if it isn’t getting wet every day, and trap the switch float in the off or on position. Seen it happen twice. Not good either way. Be sure that the boat stands/cradle don’t cover up the cockpit drains ( unlikely but…) or the bilge pump exit .

Now you won’t wake up in the middle of the night and wonder ‘what if’.

Have fun with your Amel!

Joel

Joel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist LLC

THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

954 462 5869 office

954 812 2485 cell

 


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Re: Leroy Somer Outhaul motor

Walter Kleiner
 

Alan,
if you are good in silver soldering and don´t get the cable out you could solder the new motor cable to the old one. If you stick them together like two opposite paint brush, it will suck the silver in and you get nice clean solding. Plus vulcanic tape and heat shrink, it it durable, safe and easier to fit under the white cap compared to heavy duty crimp.
Cheers,
Walter (Noa SM2K 436)


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Espar d5lc knob broke..replacement?

karkauai
 

Thanks Alex!
Kent

Kent Robertson
828-234-6819 voice/text

On Aug 26, 2016, at 10:38 AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

So sorry to read about your 5th eye surgery...
I really hope it ends up ok...
No hurry, take your time, the picture is actually of the one on your boat !!!

Hope you have a great weekend! Alexandre

--------------------------------------------
On Fri, 8/26/16, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Espar d5lc knob broke..replacement?
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Friday, August 26, 2016, 8:35

I bought one last year Alex.  Not on the
boat, so can't tell you where or part number.  I'll
see if I can find it and let you know.Having 5th eye surgery
today, so might be a few days.KentSM243Kristy

Kent Robertsonkarkauai@...
voice/text
On Aug 26,
2016, at 9:24 AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:
















 






Good afternoon,



The knob of my Espar (D5LC) broke…

Does any one as a source for spare parts?



Picture: http://nikimat.com/espar_d5lc/espar_d5lc_knob.jpg



Thanks in advance, sincerely, Alexandre

SM2K #289 NIKIMAT

Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico
























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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dry dock bilge usage?

Patrick McAneny
 

Joe , Your cockpit has two large scuppers aft of the engine compartment lid , look and you will see them. They will quickly drain any water entering you cockpit on land or sea. However you should always have the yard block up your boat so that it is slightly lower in the aft than the bow . Most any yard would know to do that , but I don't assume anything.
Pat SM#123


-----Original Message-----
From: cloudstreet100@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Fri, Aug 26, 2016 10:05 am
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dry dock bilge usage?

 
Hi All,

Tracie & I are returning to the States for 1 - 2 months and have had the boat hauled at the Caicos shipyard in Providenciales.  She is secured in their 'Hurricane Section' which has large cement blocks buried about 8' down for their anchors.

My question is; Should the power to the automatic bilge be left on?  There is no power available to the boat while it's hauled. To conserve the batteries, I'm trying to decide if I should disconnect all of the power at the batteries via the two large red handles or should they be left on so that the bilge can operate?  What happens it the boat gets a large amount of rain during a storm or hurricane when it is secured on dry land?

I know that while in the water if the cockpit is hit with a lot of water it is supposed to evacuate it rapidly,, but I d on't know exactly how this is accomplished.

Thank you,

Joe & Tracie
SV CloudStreet, hull 331
Providenciales, TCI


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Espar d5lc knob broke..replacement?

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

So sorry to read about your 5th eye surgery...
I really hope it ends up ok...
No hurry, take your time, the picture is actually of the one on your boat !!!

Hope you have a great weekend! Alexandre



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On Fri, 8/26/16, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Espar d5lc knob broke..replacement?
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Friday, August 26, 2016, 8:35

I bought one last year Alex.  Not on the
boat, so can't tell you where or part number.  I'll
see if I can find it and let you know.Having 5th eye surgery
today, so might be a few days.KentSM243Kristy

Kent Robertsonkarkauai@...
voice/text
On Aug 26,
2016, at 9:24 AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:
















 






Good afternoon,



The knob of my Espar (D5LC) broke…

Does any one as a source for spare parts?



Picture: http://nikimat.com/espar_d5lc/espar_d5lc_knob.jpg



Thanks in advance, sincerely, Alexandre

SM2K #289 NIKIMAT

Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico
























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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dry dock bilge usage?

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Unless I am mistaking the rain will go through the cockpit drainers (not in the bilge).

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT



--------------------------------------------

On Fri, 8/26/16, danny danny.rico@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dry dock bilge usage?
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Friday, August 26, 2016, 9:24 AM


 












Hi , have no experience in this issue. My humble
ignorant  opinion.  Based on the mango not sure where the
sm has  the main sea chest. Loosen the the lid so water can
leak out. But not completely open so bugs can't get in.
Just a thought. 



Daniel 
Sarqui, mango
33

Miami,fl
On Aug 26, 2016, at 10:06 AM, cloudstreet100@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:





 


Hi All,



Tracie & I are returning to the States for 1 -
2 months and have had the boat hauled at the Caicos shipyard
in Providenciales.  She is secured in their 'Hurricane
Section' which has large cement blocks buried about
8' down for their anchors.



My question is; Should the power to the automatic
bilge be left on?  There is no power available to the boat
while it's hauled. To conserve the batteries, I'm
trying to decide if I should disconnect all of the power at
the batteries via the two large
red handles or should they be left on so that the bilge can
operate?  What happens it the boat gets a large amount of
rain during a storm or hurricane when it is secured on dry
land?



I know that while in the water if the cockpit is
hit with a lot of water it is supposed to evacuate it
rapidly,, but I don't know exactly how this is
accomplished.



Thank you,



Joe & Tracie
SV CloudStreet, hull 331
Providenciales, TCI
















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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dry dock bilge usage?

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

I think that you know the answer to your question...but, if not, review these facts:
  1. That is not really a bilge pump, but rather a gray water sump pump.
  2. Unless something is very wrong with your boat, the only likely thing that could add water to that sump are:
    1. water coming in through the opening in the deck for the chain because the chain locker drains into the sump
    2. condensation draining from a dehumidifier that you might have running while you are away.
  3. The gray water (bilge) pump will not use any current when it is not pumping
  4. Look under your boat and find the two large holes beneath the cockpit. They go directly to the gutter around the engine room hatch. They are hard to find topsides, but are in the aft side of that gutter. Your cockpit will drain.
  5. Unless you have a bad battery in the bank, they will hold most of their charge until you return.
Bill
BeBe 387

On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 9:05 AM, cloudstreet100@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi All,


Tracie & I are returning to the States for 1 - 2 months and have had the boat hauled at the Caicos shipyard in Providenciales.  She is secured in their 'Hurricane Section' which has large cement blocks buried about 8' down for their anchors.


My question is; Should the power to the automatic bilge be left on?  There is no power available to the boat while it's hauled. To conserve the batteries, I'm trying to decide if I should disconnect all of the power at the batteries via the two large red handles or should they be left on so that the bilge can operate?  What happens it the boat gets a large amount of rain during a storm or hurricane when it is secured on dry land?


I know that while in the water if the cockpit is hit with a lot of water it is supposed to evacuate it rapidly,, but I don't know exactly how this is accomplished.


Thank you,


Joe & Tracie

SV CloudStreet, hull 331

Providenciales, TCI



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dry dock bilge usage?

Dan
 

Hi , have no experience in this issue. My humble ignorant  opinion.  Based on the mango not sure where the sm has  the main sea chest. Loosen the the lid so water can leak out. But not completely open so bugs can't get in. Just a thought. 

Daniel 
Sarqui, mango 33
Miami,fl

On Aug 26, 2016, at 10:06 AM, cloudstreet100@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi All,


Tracie & I are returning to the States for 1 - 2 months and have had the boat hauled at the Caicos shipyard in Providenciales.  She is secured in their 'Hurricane Section' which has large cement blocks buried about 8' down for their anchors.


My question is; Should the power to the automatic bilge be left on?  There is no power available to the boat while it's hauled. To conserve the batteries, I'm trying to decide if I should disconnect all of the power at the batteries via the two large red handles or should they be left on so that the bilge can operate?  What happens it the boat gets a large amount of rain during a storm or hurricane when it is secured on dry land?


I know that while in the water if the cockpit is hit with a lot of water it is supposed to evacuate it rapidly,, but I don't know exactly how this is accomplished.


Thank you,


Joe & Tracie

SV CloudStreet, hull 331

Providenciales, TCI