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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Adapter for European tv to use in US

Mark Erdos
 

European and most of the TVs made for the rest of the world do not work in the USA. When the USA changed to HD it adopted a format of ATSC broadcasting and therefore you need a TV with an ATSC tuner. Europe uses a DVB-T format. This is most likely the turner you have in your TV.

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Super Maramu 2000

Hull #275

www.creampuff.us

Currently cruising:  Tampa Bay for hurricane season

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2016 12:54 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Adapter for European tv to use in US

 

 

We ordered the Samsung Smart tv on our new 55.  It worked well in La Rochelle but gets no tv signal in US despite a large antenna. 
What kind of adapter or converter box will make it work?

 

Thanks 

Aldo 

Araucaria 


On Jul 1, 2016, at 12:39 PM, Beaute Olivier atlanticyachtsurvey@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Yes Andrew, you have the bow-thruster located in a watertight compartment, not allowing a watertight duct for the cables, but I think on Kent's (and most probably on all the SMs that don't have a watertight bow-thruster compartment) the solenoids are below the berth.

Kent will tell us what he finds...

 

Olivier.

 

On Friday, July 1, 2016 6:09 PM, "Andrew Lamb andrew.lamb@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

Not on our SM - they are in the bow thruster compartment high up on the port side bolted to the side wall.

 

Andrew

SM 472



Begin forwarded message:

From: Beaute Olivier <atlanticyachtsurvey@...>
Date: 1 July 2016 at 17:57:29 CEST
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Cc: Dr Andrew Lamb <Andrew.Lamb@...>
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster Motor Solenoid Location
Reply-To: Beaute Olivier <atlanticyachtsurvey@...>

In an SM, the bow-thruster solenoid switches are located at the front of the portside berth, under the berth board, behind a protection piece of plywood.

 

Olivier

 

On Friday, July 1, 2016 1:57 PM, "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

Kent,

 

I think I know where it is, but I can't get there right now to verify it...Andrew, would you explain the location.

 

Bill

BeBe 387

 

On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 11:45 AM, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Bill,

Where is the bow thruster solenoid?

Thanks 

Kent

SM243

Kristy


On Jul 1, 2016, at 6:42 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Andrew,

 

I know of one other owner who had the same problem with their bow thruster motor. They had Amel in Martinique ship the motor to Amel La Rochelle, who shipped it to some unknown place for rebuild. The total cost was between 3,000 and 4,000 Euros!

 

When you have a chance please share your information, because even though it is located in Perpignan, France, it may be a solution for boats located elsewhere.

 

It is interesting that he suggested a possible cause might be the bow thruster solenoid switch. I had not considered that too much resistance in the solenoid would cause damage to the motor and communicator, but I now understand how it could. I do not know the specs of the thruster relay on a SM. I can't get to mine right now and will look later. I suspect that I will find some numbers on it that I will search.

 

Regarding your batteries, the y can be checked for internal shorts and load-checked. I am sure that you know that most battery suppliers will provide this service.

 

Thanks,

 

Bill BeBe 387

Trinidad

 

On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 8:36 AM, Andrew Lamb andrew.lamb@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi

 

So I managed to find a local motor engineering workshop near Perpignan that specialise in repairing and reconditioning motors (lift motors, wind generators, etc) they have completely rebuilt the main bow thruster motor including changing the commutator the whole unit looks brand new now! He strongly advised me to also change the boat batteries and bow thruster relay to eliminate all possible causes of the problem. Does anyone know the specifications of the main bow thruster motor relay?

 

Andrew

 

Ronpische

SM 472

Canet en Roussillon

__.

 

 

 

 
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Adapter for European tv to use in US

Stephen Davis
 

Your TV  probably only receives the PAL system used in Europe and many other parts of the world. The USA uses NTSC 3.58, and to my knowledge, their is no converter available, and you will need a different TV.

Steve Davis
Aloha SM 72

On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 12:53 PM, Aldo Roldan aroldan1796@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

We ordered the Samsung Smart tv on our new 55.  It worked well in La Rochelle but gets no tv signal in US despite a large antenna. 
What kind of adapter or converter box will make it work?

Thanks 
Aldo 
Araucaria 

On Jul 1, 2016, at 12:39 PM, Beaute Olivier atlanticyachtsurvey@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Yes Andrew, you have the bow-thruster located in a watertight compartment, not allowing a watertight duct for the cables, but I think on Kent's (and most probably on all the SMs that don't have a watertight bow-thruster compartment) the solenoids are below the berth.
Kent will tell us what he finds...

Olivier.


On Friday, July 1, 2016 6:09 PM, "Andrew Lamb andrew.lamb@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


 
Not on our SM - they are in the bow thruster compartment high up on the port side bolted to the side wall.

Andrew
SM 472


Begin forwarded message:

From: Beaute Olivier <atlanticyachtsurvey@...>
Date: 1 July 2016 at 17:57:29 CEST
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Cc: Dr Andrew Lamb <Andrew.Lamb@...>
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster Motor Solenoid Location
Reply-To: Beaute Olivier <atlanticyachtsurvey@...>

In an SM, the bow-thruster solenoid switches are located at the front of the portside berth, under the berth board, behind a protection piece of plywood.

Olivier


On Friday, July 1, 2016 1:57 PM, "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


 
Kent,

I think I know where it is, but I can't get there right now to verify it...Andrew, would you explain the location.

Bill
BeBe 387

On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 11:45 AM, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
Hi Bill,
Where is the bow thruster solenoid?
Thanks 
Kent
SM243
Kristy


On Jul 1, 2016, at 6:42 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 
Andrew,

I know of one other owner who had the same problem with their bow thruster motor. They had Amel in Martinique ship the motor to Amel La Rochelle, who shipped it to some unknown place for rebuild. The total cost was between 3,000 and 4,000 Euros!

When you have a chance please share your information, because even though it is located in Perpignan, France, it may be a solution for boats located elsewhere.

It is interesting that he suggested a possible cause might be the bow thruster solenoid switch. I had not considered that too much resistance in the solenoid would cause damage to the motor and communicator, but I now understand how it could. I do not know the specs of the thruster relay on a SM. I can't get to mine right now and will look later. I suspect that I will find some numbers on it that I will search.

Regarding your batteries, the y can be checked for internal shorts and load-checked. I am sure that you know that most battery suppliers will provide this service.

Thanks,

Bill BeBe 387
Trinidad

On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 8:36 AM, Andrew Lamb andrew.lamb@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
Hi
 
So I managed to find a local motor engineering workshop near Perpignan that specialise in repairing and reconditioning motors (lift motors, wind generators, etc) they have completely rebuilt the main bow thruster motor including changing the commutator the whole unit looks brand new now! He strongly advised me to also change the boat batteries and bow thruster relay to eliminate all possible causes of the problem. Does anyone know the specifications of the main bow thruster motor relay?
 
Andrew
 
Ronpische
SM 472
Canet en Roussillon
__.
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow thruster shaft removal

Stephen Davis
 

Hi Ian,

Sorry you are having all the problems with the bow thruster. I helped a good friend overhaul his bow thruster last winter in St Martin. In his case, it had not been serviced for who knows how long, and the spline was badly rusted. After trying to remove it from the boat all morning with no luck, I put a couple of ring clamps on the tube, a block of wood against the clamps, and banged on it with a heavy hammer. The sharp blows with the hammer worked where steady pressure had not. Of course we had put lots of PB Blaster on it during the morning. It sounds like yours might be worse than this experience, but you might try the hammer.

As a by-product of all the rust, we found the bearing at the bottom of the motor was rusted in place, and completely seized. We removed the motor from the boat, and a machine shop was able to get it out, and put a new bearing in. Once you finally get it out, and grease the spline really well, you will find that it will drop right out next time. Normally, servicing the bow thruster only takes a few hours, and I do it every 2 years when I haul.

I'm in Palm Coast about 15 miles from you until tomorrow afternoon, and if I can be of any help, let me know.

Steve Davis
Aloha SM 72
Grenada for the Summer

On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 9:47 PM, francesringley@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thanks Bill, we are in St.Augustine Florida. I have no idea when the last servicing was done.We only bought the boat two years ago and there are no records. Yes, the locking pin was in. The special tool is broken and i will have to order a new one or repair this one. We have doused the bolt holes and the underside of the collar with penetrating oil. Will attempt your suggestions tomorrow morning. Thank you once again 


Ian Townsend
Loca Lola II
SM 153
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster Motor Repair and Main Relay

Andrew & Kate Lamb
 

Thanks Bill

To be fair on the engineer I had removed the lower and upper plates before I gave it to him - but it looks increasingly like the wires need to be moved through 90 degrees.

Andrew


On 1 Jul 2016, at 19:16, Bill Kinney greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I have a much older model than you, but my wires come out the port side of the motor.


Bill Kinney
SM#160 Harmonie
Highlands, NJ


On Jul 1, 2016, at 13:12, Andrew Lamb andrew.lamb@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


Thanks Alexandre

No hurry I cannot do anything for a few days because of my own work commitments. I need someone to put their hand behind the motor and see if the wires come out the port or starboard side of the motor towards the front of the boat

Andrew
SM 472


On 1 Jul 2016, at 19:02, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Can you find your answer looking at the pictures on:
http://nikimat.com/bow_thruster_overhaul.html

I am super short on time, about to go to dentist appointment, then grocery shopping, etc. 
If it doesn't help and no one can't reply, let me know and I look tonight.

Alexandre

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On Fri, 7/1/16, Andrew Lamb andrew.lamb@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Fwd: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster Motor Repair and Main Relay
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Friday, July 1, 2016, 11:19 AM


 












Hi



I wonder if
someone could verify something - I thing the engineer that
refurbished the bow thruster motor may have made a mistake
in where he has brought the motor wires out in relation to
the rigging brackets. They seem to be coming
out directly opposite where the metal bracket runs up and
down the stern / port side bar that guides the motor up and
down - I think in this position they may interfere with the
lower rigging which runs on the starboard side and I think
they should be coming
out at 90 degrees to the guide at the port forward
corner?



Thanks



Andrew



Sm472


Begin forwarded message:





From: "Kent Robertson karkauai@...
[amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>

Date: 1 July 2016 at 16:54:33 CEST

To: amelyachtowners@...

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster
Motor Repair and Main Relay

Reply-To: amelyachtowners@...






 

Masha Danki Andrew. I found it.

Kent

Curaçao 

















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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Solar panels for SM

hanspeter baettig
 

Hi Paul
whow you can get 8.3 A continious during lets say 10 h in Greek with the Emek Solar installation. This is your calculation with 2.05 KWh/ day. and how you can dived kwh/day ??? Hours/day??? And pls its not 450 W our solar panel! its 450 PW. ( Peak Watt). Googel it and then maybe you understand
kind regards
Hanspeter
Tamango 2 SM 16
Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 01.07.2016 um 19:22 schrieb osterberg.paul.l@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

Hello Ian and Judy
We have 450 W fitted by Emek. On Average in June we got 2.05 KWh/day, which I convert to about 83 Ah a day. We have been in the Ionian the whole of June. The lowest reading was 0,97 KWh or 39 Ah. A rather rainy day but some spell of sunshine. Max was 116 Ah
Ww also have 200 W on the rail but they more often come into shadow. They gave on average in June 16 Ah. Peak 23 Ah, lowest was 9 Ah
Paul on SYKerpa SM 259

S/Y Lady Annila for sale

kanalmamman@...
 

Vi säljer Lady Annila, Amel Super Maramu 1998
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster Motor Repair and Main Relay

Bill Kinney <greatketch@...>
 

I have a much older model than you, but my wires come out the port side of the motor.

Bill Kinney
SM#160 Harmonie
Highlands, NJ


On Jul 1, 2016, at 13:12, Andrew Lamb andrew.lamb@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


Thanks Alexandre

No hurry I cannot do anything for a few days because of my own work commitments. I need someone to put their hand behind the motor and see if the wires come out the port or starboard side of the motor towards the front of the boat

Andrew
SM 472


On 1 Jul 2016, at 19:02, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Can you find your answer looking at the pictures on:
http://nikimat.com/bow_thruster_overhaul.html

I am super short on time, about to go to dentist appointment, then grocery shopping, etc. 
If it doesn't help and no one can't reply, let me know and I look tonight.

Alexandre

--------------------------------------------
On Fri, 7/1/16, Andrew Lamb andrew.lamb@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Fwd: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster Motor Repair and Main Relay
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Friday, July 1, 2016, 11:19 AM


 












Hi



I wonder if
someone could verify something - I thing the engineer that
refurbished the bow thruster motor may have made a mistake
in where he has brought the motor wires out in relation to
the rigging brackets. They seem to be coming
out directly opposite where the metal bracket runs up and
down the stern / port side bar that guides the motor up and
down - I think in this position they may interfere with the
lower rigging which runs on the starboard side and I think
they should be coming
out at 90 degrees to the guide at the port forward
corner?



Thanks



Andrew



Sm472


Begin forwarded message:





From: "Kent Robertson karkauai@...
[amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>

Date: 1 July 2016 at 16:54:33 CEST

To: amelyachtowners@...

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster
Motor Repair and Main Relay

Reply-To: amelyachtowners@...






 

Masha Danki Andrew. I found it.

Kent

Curaçao 

















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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster Motor Repair and Main Relay

Andrew & Kate Lamb
 

Thanks Alexandre

No hurry I cannot do anything for a few days because of my own work commitments. I need someone to put their hand behind the motor and see if the wires come out the port or starboard side of the motor towards the front of the boat

Andrew
SM 472


On 1 Jul 2016, at 19:02, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Can you find your answer looking at the pictures on:
http://nikimat.com/bow_thruster_overhaul.html

I am super short on time, about to go to dentist appointment, then grocery shopping, etc.
If it doesn't help and no one can't reply, let me know and I look tonight.

Alexandre

--------------------------------------------
On Fri, 7/1/16, Andrew Lamb andrew.lamb@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Fwd: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster Motor Repair and Main Relay
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Friday, July 1, 2016, 11:19 AM


 












Hi



I wonder if
someone could verify something - I thing the engineer that
refurbished the bow thruster motor may have made a mistake
in where he has brought the motor wires out in relation to
the rigging brackets. They seem to be coming
out directly opposite where the metal bracket runs up and
down the stern / port side bar that guides the motor up and
down - I think in this position they may interfere with the
lower rigging which runs on the starboard side and I think
they should be coming
out at 90 degrees to the guide at the port forward
corner?



Thanks



Andrew



Sm472


Begin forwarded message:





From: "Kent Robertson karkauai@...
[amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>

Date: 1 July 2016 at 16:54:33 CEST

To: amelyachtowners@...

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster
Motor Repair and Main Relay

Reply-To: amelyachtowners@...






 

Masha Danki Andrew. I found it.

Kent

Curaçao

















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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster Motor Repair and Main Relay

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Can you find your answer looking at the pictures on:
http://nikimat.com/bow_thruster_overhaul.html

I am super short on time, about to go to dentist appointment, then grocery shopping, etc.
If it doesn't help and no one can't reply, let me know and I look tonight.

Alexandre



--------------------------------------------

On Fri, 7/1/16, Andrew Lamb andrew.lamb@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Fwd: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster Motor Repair and Main Relay
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Friday, July 1, 2016, 11:19 AM


 












Hi



I wonder if
someone could verify something - I thing the engineer that
refurbished the bow thruster motor may have made a mistake
in where he has brought the motor wires out in relation to
the rigging brackets. They seem to be coming
out directly opposite where the metal bracket runs up and
down the stern / port side bar that guides the motor up and
down - I think in this position they may interfere with the
lower rigging which runs on the starboard side and I think
they should be coming
out at 90 degrees to the guide at the port forward
corner?



Thanks



Andrew



Sm472


Begin forwarded message:





From: "Kent Robertson karkauai@...
[amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>

Date: 1 July 2016 at 16:54:33 CEST

To: amelyachtowners@...

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster
Motor Repair and Main Relay

Reply-To: amelyachtowners@...






 

Masha Danki Andrew. I found it.

Kent

Curaçao

















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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Adapter for European tv to use in US

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Too late now, but you should have purchase a Multi System TV (Pal, Secam and NTSC).
My TV and DVD/Blue ray readers are all Multi system as well as 50/60 hertz.

Make sure your TV is capable of receiving 50/60 Hertz and not just 50, as when you travel you will get either.

You can still get a converter for the NTSC to Pal, ask in US companies that deal with "220 volt" products.
I don't want to recommend any, as I have had good then bad experiences...

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico



--------------------------------------------

On Fri, 7/1/16, Aldo Roldan aroldan1796@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Adapter for European tv to use in US
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Friday, July 1, 2016, 11:53 AM


 









We ordered the Samsung Smart tv on our new
55.  It worked well in La Rochelle but gets no tv signal in
US despite a large antenna. 
What kind of
adapter or converter box will make it work?
Thanks Aldo Araucaria 
On Jul 1,
2016, at 12:39 PM, Beaute Olivier atlanticyachtsurvey@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:
















 






Yes
Andrew, you have the bow-thruster located in a watertight
compartment, not allowing a watertight duct for the cables,
but I think on Kent's (and most probably on all the SMs
that don't have a watertight bow-thruster compartment)
the solenoids are below the berth.Kent
will tell us what he finds...
Olivier.



On Friday, July 1,
2016 6:09 PM, "Andrew Lamb andrew.lamb@...
[amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:



 













Not on our SM - they are in the bow thruster
compartment high up on the port side bolted to the side
wall.



Andrew
SM
472
Begin forwarded message:





From: Beaute Olivier <atlanticyachtsurvey@...>

Date: 1 July 2016 at 17:57:29 CEST

To: "amelyachtowners@..."
<amelyachtowners@...>

Cc: Dr Andrew Lamb <Andrew.Lamb@...>

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster
Motor Solenoid Location

Reply-To: Beaute Olivier <atlanticyachtsurvey@...>








In an
SM, the bow-thruster solenoid switches are located at the
front of the portside berth, under the berth board, behind a
protection piece of plywood.



Olivier








On Friday, July
1, 2016 1:57 PM, "'Bill & Judy Rouse'
yahoogroups@...
[amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:








 




Kent,



I think I know where it is, but I can't get there
right now to verify it...Andrew, would you explain the
location.



Bill
BeBe 387


On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at
11:45 AM, Kent Robertson

karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:



 




Hi Bill,
Where is the bow thruster solenoid?
Thanks 
Kent
SM243
Kristy
On Jul 1, 2016, at 6:42 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse'

yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:




 



Andrew,



I know of one other owner who had the same problem with
their bow thruster motor. They had Amel in Martinique ship
the motor to Amel La Rochelle, who shipped it to some
unknown place for rebuild. The total cost was between 3,000
and 4,000 Euros!



When you have a chance please share your information,
because even though it is located in Perpignan, France, it
may be a solution for boats located elsewhere.



It is interesting that he suggested a possible cause
might be the bow thruster solenoid switch. I had not
considered that too much resistance in the solenoid would
cause damage to the motor and communicator, but I now
understand how it could. I
do not know the specs of the thruster relay on a SM. I
can't get to mine right now and will look later. I
suspect that I will find some numbers on it that I will
search.



Regarding your batteries, the y can be checked for
internal shorts and load-checked. I am sure that you know
that most battery suppliers will provide this service.




Thanks,



Bill BeBe 387
Trinidad


On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at
8:36 AM, Andrew Lamb

andrew.lamb@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:



 





Hi
 
So I managed to find a local motor
engineering workshop near Perpignan that specialise in
repairing and reconditioning motors (lift motors, wind
generators, etc) they have completely
rebuilt the main bow thruster motor including changing the
commutator the whole unit looks brand new now! He strongly
advised me to also change the boat batteries and bow
thruster relay to eliminate all possible causes of the
problem. Does anyone know the
specifications of the main bow thruster motor
relay?
 
Andrew
 
Ronpische
SM 472
Canet en
Roussillon



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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster Motor Solenoid Location

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

I looked and I think mine are at the same place...
I did not follow the wire (short on time because of work), but unless they are other solenoids, mine are there.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Club Nautico de San Juan, Puerto Rico



--------------------------------------------

On Fri, 7/1/16, Beaute Olivier atlanticyachtsurvey@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: Fwd: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster Motor Solenoid Location
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Friday, July 1, 2016, 11:39 AM


 









Yes
Andrew, you have the bow-thruster located in a watertight
compartment, not allowing a watertight duct for the cables,
but I think on Kent's (and most probably on all the SMs
that don't have a watertight bow-thruster compartment)
the solenoids are below the berth.Kent
will tell us what he finds...
Olivier.


On Friday, July 1,
2016 6:09 PM, "Andrew Lamb andrew.lamb@...
[amelyachtowners]"
<amelyachtowners@...> wrote:



 













Not on our SM - they are in the bow thruster
compartment high up on the port side bolted to the side
wall.



Andrew
SM
472
Begin forwarded message:





From: Beaute Olivier <atlanticyachtsurvey@...>

Date: 1 July 2016 at 17:57:29 CEST

To: "amelyachtowners@..."
<amelyachtowners@...>

Cc: Dr Andrew Lamb <Andrew.Lamb@...>

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster
Motor Solenoid Location

Reply-To: Beaute Olivier <atlanticyachtsurvey@...>








In an
SM, the bow-thruster solenoid switches are located at the
front of the portside berth, under the berth board, behind a
protection piece of plywood.



Olivier








On Friday, July
1, 2016 1:57 PM, "'Bill & Judy Rouse'
yahoogroups@...
[amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:








 




Kent,



I think I know where it is, but I can't get there
right now to verify it...Andrew, would you explain the
location.



Bill
BeBe 387


On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at
11:45 AM, Kent Robertson

karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:



 




Hi Bill,
Where is the bow thruster solenoid?
Thanks 
Kent
SM243
Kristy
On Jul 1, 2016, at 6:42 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse'

yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:




 



Andrew,



I know of one other owner who had the same problem with
their bow thruster motor. They had Amel in Martinique ship
the motor to Amel La Rochelle, who shipped it to some
unknown place for rebuild. The total cost was between 3,000
and 4,000 Euros!



When you have a chance please share your information,
because even though it is located in Perpignan, France, it
may be a solution for boats located elsewhere.



It is interesting that he suggested a possible cause
might be the bow thruster solenoid switch. I had not
considered that too much resistance in the solenoid would
cause damage to the motor and communicator, but I now
understand how it could. I
do not know the specs of the thruster relay on a SM. I
can't get to mine right now and will look later. I
suspect that I will find some numbers on it that I will
search.



Regarding your batteries, the y can be checked for
internal shorts and load-checked. I am sure that you know
that most battery suppliers will provide this service.




Thanks,



Bill BeBe 387
Trinidad


On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at
8:36 AM, Andrew Lamb

andrew.lamb@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:



 





Hi
 
So I managed to find a local motor
engineering workshop near Perpignan that specialise in
repairing and reconditioning motors (lift motors, wind
generators, etc) they have completely
rebuilt the main bow thruster motor including changing the
commutator the whole unit looks brand new now! He strongly
advised me to also change the boat batteries and bow
thruster relay to eliminate all possible causes of the
problem. Does anyone know the
specifications of the main bow thruster motor
relay?
 
Andrew
 
Ronpische
SM 472
Canet en
Roussillon



__.


































































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Re: Adapter for European tv to use in US

Aldo Roldan
 

We ordered the Samsung Smart tv on our new 55.  It worked well in La Rochelle but gets no tv signal in US despite a large antenna. 
What kind of adapter or converter box will make it work?

Thanks 
Aldo 
Araucaria 

On Jul 1, 2016, at 12:39 PM, Beaute Olivier atlanticyachtsurvey@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Yes Andrew, you have the bow-thruster located in a watertight compartment, not allowing a watertight duct for the cables, but I think on Kent's (and most probably on all the SMs that don't have a watertight bow-thruster compartment) the solenoids are below the berth.
Kent will tell us what he finds...

Olivier.


On Friday, July 1, 2016 6:09 PM, "Andrew Lamb andrew.lamb@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


 
Not on our SM - they are in the bow thruster compartment high up on the port side bolted to the side wall.

Andrew
SM 472


Begin forwarded message:

From: Beaute Olivier <atlanticyachtsurvey@...>
Date: 1 July 2016 at 17:57:29 CEST
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Cc: Dr Andrew Lamb <Andrew.Lamb@...>
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster Motor Solenoid Location
Reply-To: Beaute Olivier <atlanticyachtsurvey@...>

In an SM, the bow-thruster solenoid switches are located at the front of the portside berth, under the berth board, behind a protection piece of plywood.

Olivier


On Friday, July 1, 2016 1:57 PM, "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


 
Kent,

I think I know where it is, but I can't get there right now to verify it...Andrew, would you explain the location.

Bill
BeBe 387

On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 11:45 AM, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
Hi Bill,
Where is the bow thruster solenoid?
Thanks 
Kent
SM243
Kristy


On Jul 1, 2016, at 6:42 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 
Andrew,

I know of one other owner who had the same problem with their bow thruster motor. They had Amel in Martinique ship the motor to Amel La Rochelle, who shipped it to some unknown place for rebuild. The total cost was between 3,000 and 4,000 Euros!

When you have a chance please share your information, because even though it is located in Perpignan, France, it may be a solution for boats located elsewhere.

It is interesting that he suggested a possible cause might be the bow thruster solenoid switch. I had not considered that too much resistance in the solenoid would cause damage to the motor and communicator, but I now understand how it could. I do not know the specs of the thruster relay on a SM. I can't get to mine right now and will look later. I suspect that I will find some numbers on it that I will search.

Regarding your batteries, the y can be checked for internal shorts and load-checked. I am sure that you know that most battery suppliers will provide this service.

Thanks,

Bill BeBe 387
Trinidad

On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 8:36 AM, Andrew Lamb andrew.lamb@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
Hi
 
So I managed to find a local motor engineering workshop near Perpignan that specialise in repairing and reconditioning motors (lift motors, wind generators, etc) they have completely rebuilt the main bow thruster motor including changing the commutator the whole unit looks brand new now! He strongly advised me to also change the boat batteries and bow thruster relay to eliminate all possible causes of the problem. Does anyone know the specifications of the main bow thruster motor relay?
 
Andrew
 
Ronpische
SM 472
Canet en Roussillon
__.
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster Motor Solenoid Location

Olivier Beaute
 

Yes Andrew, you have the bow-thruster located in a watertight compartment, not allowing a watertight duct for the cables, but I think on Kent's (and most probably on all the SMs that don't have a watertight bow-thruster compartment) the solenoids are below the berth.
Kent will tell us what he finds...

Olivier.


On Friday, July 1, 2016 6:09 PM, "Andrew Lamb andrew.lamb@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
Not on our SM - they are in the bow thruster compartment high up on the port side bolted to the side wall.

Andrew
SM 472


Begin forwarded message:

From: Beaute Olivier <atlanticyachtsurvey@...>
Date: 1 July 2016 at 17:57:29 CEST
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Cc: Dr Andrew Lamb <Andrew.Lamb@...>
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster Motor Solenoid Location
Reply-To: Beaute Olivier <atlanticyachtsurvey@...>

In an SM, the bow-thruster solenoid switches are located at the front of the portside berth, under the berth board, behind a protection piece of plywood.

Olivier


On Friday, July 1, 2016 1:57 PM, "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


 
Kent,

I think I know where it is, but I can't get there right now to verify it...Andrew, would you explain the location.

Bill
BeBe 387

On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 11:45 AM, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
Hi Bill,
Where is the bow thruster solenoid?
Thanks 
Kent
SM243
Kristy


On Jul 1, 2016, at 6:42 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 
Andrew,

I know of one other owner who had the same problem with their bow thruster motor. They had Amel in Martinique ship the motor to Amel La Rochelle, who shipped it to some unknown place for rebuild. The total cost was between 3,000 and 4,000 Euros!

When you have a chance please share your information, because even though it is located in Perpignan, France, it may be a solution for boats located elsewhere.

It is interesting that he suggested a possible cause might be the bow thruster solenoid switch. I had not considered that too much resistance in the solenoid would cause damage to the motor and communicator, but I now understand how it could. I do not know the specs of the thruster relay on a SM. I can't get to mine right now and will look later. I suspect that I will find some numbers on it that I will search.

Regarding your batteries, the y can be checked for internal shorts and load-checked. I am sure that you know that most battery suppliers will provide this service.

Thanks,

Bill BeBe 387
Trinidad

On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 8:36 AM, Andrew Lamb andrew.lamb@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
Hi
 
So I managed to find a local motor engineering workshop near Perpignan that specialise in repairing and reconditioning motors (lift motors, wind generators, etc) they have completely rebuilt the main bow thruster motor including changing the commutator the whole unit looks brand new now! He strongly advised me to also change the boat batteries and bow thruster relay to eliminate all possible causes of the problem. Does anyone know the specifications of the main bow thruster motor relay?
 
Andrew
 
Ronpische
SM 472
Canet en Roussillon
__.
Re: Solar panels for SM

Paul Osterberg
 

Hello Ian and Judy
We have 450 W fitted by Emek. On Average in June we got 2.05 KWh/day, which I convert to about 83 Ah a day. We have been in the Ionian the whole of June. The lowest reading was 0,97 KWh or 39 Ah. A rather rainy day but some spell of sunshine. Max was 116 Ah
Ww also have 200 W on the rail but they more often come into shadow. They gave on average in June 16 Ah. Peak 23 Ah, lowest was 9 Ah
Paul on SYKerpa SM 259
[Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster Motor Repair and Main Relay

Andrew & Kate Lamb
 

Hi

I wonder if someone could verify something - I thing the engineer that refurbished the bow thruster motor may have made a mistake in where he has brought the motor wires out in relation to the rigging brackets. They seem to be coming out directly opposite where the metal bracket runs up and down the stern / port side bar that guides the motor up and down - I think in this position they may interfere with the lower rigging which runs on the starboard side and I think they should be coming out at 90 degrees to the guide at the port forward corner?

Thanks

Andrew

Sm472

Begin forwarded message:

From: "Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: 1 July 2016 at 16:54:33 CEST
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster Motor Repair and Main Relay
Reply-To: amelyachtowners@...

 

Masha Danki Andrew. I found it.
Kent
Curaçao

[Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster Motor Solenoid Location

Andrew & Kate Lamb
 

Not on our SM - they are in the bow thruster compartment high up on the port side bolted to the side wall.

Andrew
SM 472


Begin forwarded message:

From: Beaute Olivier <atlanticyachtsurvey@...>
Date: 1 July 2016 at 17:57:29 CEST
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Cc: Dr Andrew Lamb <Andrew.Lamb@...>
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster Motor Solenoid Location
Reply-To: Beaute Olivier <atlanticyachtsurvey@...>

In an SM, the bow-thruster solenoid switches are located at the front of the portside berth, under the berth board, behind a protection piece of plywood.

Olivier


On Friday, July 1, 2016 1:57 PM, "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


 
Kent,

I think I know where it is, but I can't get there right now to verify it...Andrew, would you explain the location.

Bill
BeBe 387

On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 11:45 AM, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
Hi Bill,
Where is the bow thruster solenoid?
Thanks 
Kent
SM243
Kristy


On Jul 1, 2016, at 6:42 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 
Andrew,

I know of one other owner who had the same problem with their bow thruster motor. They had Amel in Martinique ship the motor to Amel La Rochelle, who shipped it to some unknown place for rebuild. The total cost was between 3,000 and 4,000 Euros!

When you have a chance please share your information, because even though it is located in Perpignan, France, it may be a solution for boats located elsewhere.

It is interesting that he suggested a possible cause might be the bow thruster solenoid switch. I had not considered that too much resistance in the solenoid would cause damage to the motor and communicator, but I now understand how it could. I do not know the specs of the thruster relay on a SM. I can't get to mine right now and will look later. I suspect that I will find some numbers on it that I will search.

Regarding your batteries, the y can be checked for internal shorts and load-checked. I am sure that you know that most battery suppliers will provide this service.

Thanks,

Bill BeBe 387
Trinidad

On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 8:36 AM, Andrew Lamb andrew.lamb@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
Hi
 
So I managed to find a local motor engineering workshop near Perpignan that specialise in repairing and reconditioning motors (lift motors, wind generators, etc) they have completely rebuilt the main bow thruster motor including changing the commutator the whole unit looks brand new now! He strongly advised me to also change the boat batteries and bow thruster relay to eliminate all possible causes of the problem. Does anyone know the specifications of the main bow thruster motor relay?
 
Andrew
 
Ronpische
SM 472
Canet en Roussillon
__.
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster Motor Solenoid Location

Olivier Beaute
 

In an SM, the bow-thruster solenoid switches are located at the front of the portside berth, under the berth board, behind a protection piece of plywood.

Olivier


On Friday, July 1, 2016 1:57 PM, "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
Kent,

I think I know where it is, but I can't get there right now to verify it...Andrew, would you explain the location.

Bill
BeBe 387

On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 11:45 AM, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
Hi Bill,
Where is the bow thruster solenoid?
Thanks 
Kent
SM243
Kristy


On Jul 1, 2016, at 6:42 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 
Andrew,

I know of one other owner who had the same problem with their bow thruster motor. They had Amel in Martinique ship the motor to Amel La Rochelle, who shipped it to some unknown place for rebuild. The total cost was between 3,000 and 4,000 Euros!

When you have a chance please share your information, because even though it is located in Perpignan, France, it may be a solution for boats located elsewhere.

It is interesting that he suggested a possible cause might be the bow thruster solenoid switch. I had not considered that too much resistance in the solenoid would cause damage to the motor and communicator, but I now understand how it could. I do not know the specs of the thruster relay on a SM. I can't get to mine right now and will look later. I suspect that I will find some numbers on it that I will search.

Regarding your batteries, the y can be checked for internal shorts and load-checked. I am sure that you know that most battery suppliers will provide this service.

Thanks,

Bill BeBe 387
Trinidad

On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 8:36 AM, Andrew Lamb andrew.lamb@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
Hi
 
So I managed to find a local motor engineering workshop near Perpignan that specialise in repairing and reconditioning motors (lift motors, wind generators, etc) they have completely rebuilt the main bow thruster motor including changing the commutator the whole unit looks brand new now! He strongly advised me to also change the boat batteries and bow thruster relay to eliminate all possible causes of the problem. Does anyone know the specifications of the main bow thruster motor relay?
 
Andrew
 
Ronpische
SM 472
Canet en Roussillon
__.
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster Motor Repair and Main Relay

karkauai
 

Masha Danki Andrew. I found it.
Kent
Curaçao
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Solar panels for SM

Mark Erdos
 

Ian and Judy,

 

This is a very difficult question to answer since the truth is that it depends on your personal preference and the energy goals you are trying to accomplish using solar panels. We are in the process of adding solar. We are adding an arch since we felt this would make the most suitable location. When faced with how many panels’ or how much wattage to add, our decision was to add as much as the arch could take (without being obnoxious). Our decision was to add the arch first and then measure to add as much solar as we could. It is because we live on the boat and cruise full time. We also have an wind generator. We still plan to run the generator at night with AC units running to cool down the boat for a couple of hours. Even, with us adding the solar, we realize we will not be totally using free energy. We could have perhaps added the solar panels to the rails and accomplished the same, but we like the idea of the panels being out of the way. Our thought (for a full time cruiser), if you are going to add solar, go big.

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Super Maramu 2000

Hull #275

www.creampuff.us

Currently cruising:  Tampa Bay for hurricane season

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2016 9:32 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Solar panels for SM

 

 

 Hi all solar users,

 

We were planning to visit Emek in Turkey for one of their solar arches. Discretion being the better part of valour we have postponed that trip. We have so many photos of their arches that we can get one built elsewhere.

 

The question I would be interested in having answered is:

 

What are the appropriate  dimensions and output of solar panels  for an SM arch ?

 

Every yottie we speak to raves about their own panels and advises us  to go as big as we can; however, some boats  ( in general, not Amels)look overwhelmed by outsized panels, others look to have been too conservative. Clearly there is a balance of output versus aesthetics .

 

Any views will be very welcome.

 

Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302 , Greece ( 37c and very sunny )
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Solar panels for SM

Colin - ex SV Island Pearl
 

Hi Ian & Judy

We had Riza (Emek) make our davits and are completely happy with them as they are far nicer looking than anything else we have seen ever and the price was good too. I doubt you will have equally nice ones made any cheaper. He shipped ours to Australia and it was not difficult to have them welded together and fitted locally.

There are many options for size of panels. You would need to decide on that first and provide the correct measurements. We went with 2 x 260w (34v) panels run in series through a Tracer MPPT with MT50 display so have 520w optimised as it is in series. We ideally wanted 600w but find 520w quite adequate as we typically get 10 amp hrs x 26v in winter and up to 20 amp hrs x 26v peak in summer so rarely ever run the generator now, although in our case we are not cruising full time yet.

Good luck with it. You will not regret getting a good large solar system on board. It has certainly transformed our boat.

Colin & Lauren Streeter
Island Pearl II, aMEL 53 #332
Brisbane



On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 11:31 PM, Ian & Judy ianjudyjenkins@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 Hi all solar users,


We were planning to visit Emek in Turkey for one of their solar arches. Discretion being the better part of valour we have postponed that trip. We have so many photos of their arches that we can get one built elsewhere.


The question I would be interested in having answered is:


What are the appropriate  dimensions and output of solar panels  for an SM arch ?


Every yottie we speak to raves about their own panels and advises us  to go as big as we can; however, some boats  ( in general, not Amels)look overwhelmed by outsized panels, others look to have been too conservative. Clearly there is a balance of output versus aesthetics .


Any views will be very welcome.


Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302 , Greece ( 37c and very sunny )




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Colin Streeter
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