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Re: Glitchy starting Yanmar 100HP

Derick Gates SM2K #400 Brava
 

Thanks Mark, but do you have a picture of the stop fuel solenoid, or know how to access it? Do you have to remove the fuel pump to get to it?  I would love to see a annotated photo of this stop solenoid so I knew what I was looking at, and any hints as to how to troubleshoot it.

Derick
SM2K#400 Brava


Re: Bow thruster shaft stuck

francesringley@...
 

Thanks Craig. Would a filter wrench work?

Anyone near the Abacos with an AMEL thruster removal tool like Derick mentions?


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Glitchy starting Yanmar 100HP

Mark Erdos
 

There is a stop fuel solenoid on the fuel pump. Is this what you are asking? When you push the stop button on the panel, this activates the solenoid and cut the flow to the engine. This is how the Yanmar is stopped.





With best regards,



Mark



Skipper

Sailing Yacht: Cream Puff



www.creampuff.us



From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 4:11 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Glitchy starting Yanmar 100HP





OK, so I am officially confused. I originally thought that the components in Bill's picture were for starting the Yanmar. I now know that the negative solenoid also depresses when someone else pushes the stop button in the cockpit to stop the engine; I can hear it and feel it click, so I know that is part of the process, but my engine does not stop so some other part of the stop circuit has gone awry. What turns off the diesel fuel? Is there not another STOP solenoid (and perhaps diode) connected to the fuel pump somehow?



Derick





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Re: Bow thruster shaft stuck

Craig Briggs
 

Ian, 

Here's an old post of mine on this subject - hope it helps.
The chain wrench with a length of pipe on the handle for leverage is best. 
Cheers, 
Craig Briggs, sv Sangaris SN#68, Pompano Beach, FL


3767Re: Bow Thruster stuck

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  • Craig & Katherine
    Apr 3, 2008
    Ed,
    Before you go to a lot of possibly unnecessary trouble - don't give up! 
    Keep on with the WD40 soaking and rather than trying to "jerk" things 
    loose by running the thruster or banging the electric motor, try this. 
    Put a strap wrench around the electric motor, either a chain wrench or a 
    rubber strap one. Then put a length of pipe over the strap wrench 
    handle for added leverage. Then carefully torque this up, trying to 
    turn the motor just a few degrees either right or left. Do this with 
    the thruster retracted: the lower housing will act to resist your 
    turning of the motor. Be patient, turn it right, then left, then right, 
    etc. Be patient and sooner or later it will break free just a bit - 
    then keep nudging it back and forth. At first you may only be able to 
    go a few degrees at a time, but it will break loose after a while. 
    Don't give up!

    Cheers, Craig


Re: Bow thruster shaft stuck

Derick Gates SM2K #400 Brava
 

Ian,

If you look in the photos section you can find a Bow Thuster tool made by Amel that can be used to pull out a stuck bow thruster shaft.  I got one from Amel and was finally able to remove the shaft from the motor housing.  That allowed me to clean up all the rust from the motor housing that was binding on the shaft, and lubricate the shaft and motor housing with corrosion resistant grease.

It removes much more easily now.

Derick Gates
SM2K#400 Brava
Currently in Isles des Saintes, Guadeloupe.


Re: Glitchy starting Yanmar 100HP

Derick Gates SM2K #400 Brava
 

OK, so I am officially confused.  I originally thought that the components in Bill's picture were for starting the Yanmar.  I now know that the negative solenoid also depresses when someone else pushes the stop button in the cockpit to stop the engine; I can hear it and feel it click, so I know that is part of the process, but my engine does not stop so some other part of the stop circuit has gone awry.  What turns off the diesel fuel?  Is there not another STOP solenoid (and perhaps diode) connected to the fuel pump somehow?  

Derick


Re: Bow thruster shaft stuck

seafeverofcuan@...
 

At that rate, then take a hacksaw to the prop centre and very carefully saw across   two empty bolts holes until you can cut a line across  and remove part of the prop centre which might let you get better access to the two damaged bolts so that you can saw a slot into them and unscrew them. What have you got to lose?
Good luck.
Trevor
Seafever


Re: Bow thruster shaft stuck

francesringley@...
 

The prop can't be removed in the water unfortunately. Not all of the nylon bolts sheared off and all I am left with is a prop centre and no blades. I have removed four of the bolts, two were sheared off and the two that remain are badly mangled to the point where they can't be worked in the water. So before I decide to haul the boat, I was looking for anyone who may have experienced a stuck shaft or have any suggestions. So yes, heat is an option. Thanks.


Re: Onan Generator issue

seafeverofcuan@...
 

Ric,
      Your last post was a raw water problem with the Yanmar, are you sure these are not connected?
Trevor 
Seafever
Ireland


Re: Bow thruster shaft stuck

seafeverofcuan@...
 

Ian, 
     Why are you trying to remove the shaft if you need to replace the prop?
Throw the 2x4 away before you destroy the fairing. If the shaft is that badly stuck you will NEVER get it off while in the water.
If it is a prop replacement as your posting suggests, then you can easily do it in the water with a mask and snorkel.
Remove the nylon bolts from the hub, you will find it easier to line up the replacement prop with two stainless steel bolts which will allow you to insert the nylon bolts in the remaining holes. Remove the two stainless steel bolts and insert the last two nylon bolts and you should be finished.
If your shaft is really badly stuck and has not be removed for a very long time, it most likely will need some heat after you have removed the entire assembly from the boat.
Trevor
Seafever
Ireland


Bow thruster shaft stuck

francesringley@...
 

We are attempting an in-water prop replacement of the bow thruster. After removing the collar and four allen screws, the shaft will not fall. It appears to be corroded. We have tried lubricating oil (but only for a couple of hours so far), raising and lowering the motor, banging the shaft with a hammer and prying the fairing by inserting a 2x4. No luck. We have stopped for a drink to mull it over. Any ideas?


Ian Townsend

SM153

Loca Lola II


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM shower curtain size?

sailormon <kimberlite@...>
 

What are they called?

Thanks

Eric

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 11:54 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM shower curtain size?

 

 

eBay or Amazon by the 100s and very cheap


On 4 Jan 2016, at 16:44, 'Miles Bidwell' milesbid@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

The fabric on my boat is still good but some of the plastic hooks that hold it up have broken.  Does anyone know where to get more of the hooks?

Miles

SM216

Ladybug


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM shower curtain size?

sailormon <kimberlite@...>
 

They are standard in Europe , but I got a bunch from Amel . there are different sizes for the shades and the

Curtain.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 10:45 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM shower curtain size?

 

 

The fabric on my boat is still good but some of the plastic hooks that hold it up have broken.  Does anyone know where to get more of the hooks?

Miles

SM216

Ladybug


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan Generator issue

sailormon <kimberlite@...>
 

 

Clean the raw water sensor screwed into the hose near the raw water pump mounted in the hose on a metal tube. The fitting on the sensor is probably full of rust.

 

What is your hull number and model of boat?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2016 10:16 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan Generator issue

 

 

Yanmar engine working...more to come about the solution later but now dealing with another issue:  I didn't run the Onan genset for a month (sitting at a marina with power).  Just tried it, turns over and runs--then shuts down after about 30 seconds.  Water flowing happily yet yellow light blinking pattern is 7 indicating that is it is a raw water or cooling problem.  Ideas? Thanks!

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SM shower curtain size?

Andrew & Kate Lamb
 

eBay or Amazon by the 100s and very cheap


On 4 Jan 2016, at 16:44, 'Miles Bidwell' milesbid@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

The fabric on my boat is still good but some of the plastic hooks that hold it up have broken.  Does anyone know where to get more of the hooks?

Miles

SM216

Ladybug


Re: SM shower curtain size?

Miles
 

The fabric on my boat is still good but some of the plastic hooks that hold it up have broken.  Does anyone know where to get more of the hooks?

Miles

SM216

Ladybug


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan Generator issue

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Sounds typical of an impeller without blades...
you should that first...
Mine use to loose its blades after 6 to 8 months, after cleaning the water pump, now it is ok.
http://nikimat.com/onan_water_pump_cleaning.html

Keep us posted on what you find !

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Blue Haven Marian, Turks & Caicos.





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On Mon, 1/4/16, rickgrimes1@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan Generator issue
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Monday, January 4, 2016, 9:16 AM


 









Yanmar engine working...more to come
about the solution later but now dealing with another
issue:  I didn't run the Onan genset for a month
(sitting at a marina with power).  Just tried it, turns
over and runs--then shuts down after about 30 seconds. 
Water flowing happily yet yellow light blinking pattern is
7 indicating that is it is a raw water or cooling problem. 
Ideas? Thanks!










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Onan Generator issue

rickgrimes1@...
 

Yanmar engine working...more to come about the solution later but now dealing with another issue:  I didn't run the Onan genset for a month (sitting at a marina with power).  Just tried it, turns over and runs--then shuts down after about 30 seconds.  Water flowing happily yet yellow light blinking pattern is 7 indicating that is it is a raw water or cooling problem.  Ideas? Thanks!



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Rocna 40 kg anchor on SM with dual bow rollers

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Hi Will,
I was interested to read your email about the Vulcan. I have fitted a Spade for the last 16 years and I knew Alain Poiraud, its inventor, sailor and a lovely man, who alas has since died of cancer.
The Spade predated the Rocna and after the Rocna had appeared there was quite a conflict between the owner of Rocna and Alain over the performance of their respective anchors. I won't go into the details, but there were some pretty heated exchanges, somewhat unpleasant. They are both good anchors.
Looking down from his lofty perch and seeing the resemblance between the new Vulcan and the original Spade I suspect that Alain might now have a wry smile on his face...
Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Greece

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From: amelyachtowners@... <amelyachtowners@...> on behalf of tango708@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: 04 January 2016 04:16
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Rocna 40 kg anchor on SM with dual bow rollers

Hi Ben,
I was ready to buy a Rocna 40 but a friend mentioned that he had returned his for a Vulcan, which is made by Rocna. So after looking at both anchors I decided on the Vulcan. It has a shape that fits my bow rollers well and according to test the shanks deforms less on side loads than the regular Rocna. Also, the shape of the Vulcan does not require the hoop to turn the anchor upright to set. I think both are great anchors.

I was deploying my old CQR (the shaft of which had a bend) an average of 3 times before I could get a set. With the Vulcan it sets the first time every time .

Will Stout
Anni Bea True
SM180
Fort St Louie, St Martin, FWI

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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Glitchy starting Yanmar 100HP

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 7:51 AM, sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Derick,

I have a photo of the starter relay, the fan relay, and the negative ground relay courtesy of bill on BeBe.

 

I can email it to you if you send me your address . I will be on the boat Saturday in Colombia and can send you a picture of the relay in question if ypu will remond me here on this site on Satuday.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maram u #376

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2016 10:38 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Glitchy starting Yanmar 100HP

 

 

Eric, do you have a picture of where this "small black relay" is on the engine?  I am having problems with the red stop button not stopping the engine and I suspect this relay might be the problem since my red stop button seems to not be the issue.  I think I r emember that there may be a diode in this circuit that might need replacing, but I have been so far unable to trace the stop circuit near the engine. 

 

Anyone else have pictures illustrating the stop components on the Yanmar 100 hp?

 

Derick

SM2K#400 Brava

Currently in the Isles des Saintes, Guadloupe and stopping the engine manually...