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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] installation of dive compressor

Bob Grey
 

blockquote, div.yahoo_quoted { margin-left: 0 !important; border-left:1px #715FFA solid !important; padding-left:1ex !important; background-color:white !important; } Mark sent to you direct, suggest you also read the dive blog about using the compressor and what to look for. I found it informative and the reason I extended the filter use to 50 fills.
BobRenaissance 3Amel 55 #15


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On Tuesday, April 12, 2016, 00:15, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 


Bob,

 

Would you be kind and send me the manual also. I have the same compressor. Thanks

 

mcerdos (at) gmail (dot) com

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Super Maramu 2000

Hull #275

www.creampuff.us

Currently cruising:  Exuma Islands - Bahamas

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 4:53 AM
To: Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]; amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: AW: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] installation of dive compressor

 

 

Alex, sent the manual, my compressor takes about 15 minutes per tank, 3200psi.


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On Sunday, April 10, 2016, 22:24, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


 

Good morning Bob,

Normally uster@... works (note sometime the auto-correct put "user" and not "uster" (removing the "t")
Another email is: uster@... (same thing for auto correct removing the "t")

Thanks in advance BoB!!!
Have a great day and weekend!
Alexandre

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On Sat, 4/9/16, Bob Grey renaissanceiii@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: AW: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] installation of dive compressor
To: "yahoogroups" <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Saturday, April 9, 2016, 6:50 PM


 













Alexandre, send me your email address and
I'll send you a PDF of the manual. I tried your rocket
mail address and it bounced.
RobertRenaissance 3

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Saturday, April 9, 2016, 21:28, Alexandre Uster von Baar
uster@... [amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:
 











Good afternoon Robert,



Interesting… Last winter, I had mine fully serviced and
ask for the procedure (since I had never used it).

The dealer told me to do. Regarding the oil, they said my
old one was toxic and put the Tri-Ester Synethetic
Compressor Fluid R14.

May be they were over cautious…



Sincerely, Alexandre

SM2K #289 NIKIMAT

Private Slip, Marina Puerto Bahia, Samana, Dominican
Republic



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On Fri, 4/8/16, Bob Grey renaissanceiii@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:



Subject: Re: AW: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] installation of
dive compressor

To: "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@...
[amelyachtowners]"
<amelyachtowners@...>,
amelyachtowners@...

Date: Friday, April 8, 2016, 9:40 PM





 























Alexander, I have the same compressor on
my

boat although not as beautifully installed, I don't
have

to open the water traps during filling and also the
filter

seem to last  about 50 fills, the only way to check the

filter is by its added weight, so an accurate small
weight

scale is the only requirement there.

Humidity in southern Australia is

low and I'm using synthetic oil, this may explain
the

difference.







Robert GreyRenaissance

355 #15



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Thursday, April 7, 2016, 22:52, Alexandre Uster von Baar

uster@... [amelyachtowners]

<amelyachtowners@...>

wrote:

 























My pleasure, but ask Leopold (SM#69 Yin Yang) how he did

his.







Also I gave previously my opinion on the diving
compressor.





Since I had one onboard and I want everything in working

condition I had it serviced ($2k), but I am not sure I
would

add one as it is not so easy nor inexpensive to use.



1) every 7 minutes while filling up a tank you have to
open

valves and it takes 40 minutes to fill up a tank (and is

very noisy).



2) have to change the filter every 8 tanks and they have
a

limited shelf life of 1.5 year, I calculated the
operating

cost to fill up a tank at about $5 (not including the

purchase of the compressor and its big maintenance).



In the Bahamas, Turks & Caicos and even here in

Dominican Republic there are stores in many places to
fill

up tanks and they cost between $5 and $10.



I think it is good if you are in remote places or scuba
a

lot.



But I do believe it is important to have scuba tanks
onboard

in case (like it happened to me) you have the chain wrap

around a coral head, anchor stuck, etc.







Sincerely, Alexandre







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On Thu, 4/7/16, robin hutter robin6658@...

[amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@...>

wrote:







Subject: AW: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] installation of
dive

compressor



To: "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@...

[amelyachtowners]"

<amelyachtowners@...>



Date: Thursday, April 7, 2016, 7:28 AM











 















































wooaaaaawwww Alexandre - thanks a
million

-



perfect - I am duly impressed!!



fair winds



RobinSV



grosdoux



SM #56











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Donnerstag, April 7, 2016, 13:10 schrieb Alexandre
Uster

von



Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]



<amelyachtowners@...>:



 







































Good morning Robin,















Here is a reply I made to Leopold (SM#69 Yin Yang) on

April



28, 2015







You might want to ask him if he had any difficulties



installing his.















I took some pictures and drawing I made at the time







http://nikimat.com/scuba_compressor_bauer_junior.html















I hope this will help you.















Sincerely, Alexandre







SM2K #289 NIKIMAT







Private Slip, Marina Puerto Bahia, Samana, Dominican



Republic















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On Thu, 4/7/16, robin.hutter@...
[amelyachtowners]



<amelyachtowners@...> wrote:















Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] installation of dive



compressor







To: amelyachtowners@...







Date: Thursday, April 7, 2016, 6:41 AM























 















































































Hi gang







when I bought GrosDoux







there was no dive compressor. I intend to change that



and







buy a Lenhardt @ Wagner LW 100 E1 ECO and install it.



Could







anyone let me know how Amel installs thes compressors?



Size







and weight is comparable to a Baur Junior







ll.thanks for any







assistance!







RobinSV







Gros-Douxwww.Gros-Doux.comSM







#56













































































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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] C Drive Oil

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 


Thanks, Olivier.

I am no expert, but I suspect that the heavier gear oil (80/90) will seal better at the wear bushing and shaft O Ring, eliminating some water passing through to the C Drive.

I am really very happy to have accidentally learned this. It is a shame that there is zero downstream communication from Amel on this sort of thing. I guess it pays to hang out at an Amel facility and soak up new information.

On our next haulout, we will use 80/90 gear oil for the C Drive and Bow Thruster.

Bill
BeBe 387 
Currently Martinique

On Apr 11, 2016 14:24, "Beaute Olivier atlanticyachtsurvey@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Bill,

the C-drive has been designed by AMEL in 1989. There has been 3 different designs for the Santorin and Super Maramu, only one for the 54. Until the last 54, AMEL has recommended to use 20W40 oil only because that's the kind of oil you usually have on board (for engine and generator) if you need to top up the C-drive tank. And that would  avoid having two kinds of oil on board. In fact, this C-drive did not need this kind of oil (20W40) as it is made for high temperatures (that you find in a diesel engine). The C-drive oil rarely warms up more than 70°C.
Now, the manufacturer of the C-drive has changed and recommends the 80/90, and probably would deny warranty if this kind of oil is not used.
Again, in order to make things more simple, AMEL decided to use 80/90 gear oil for the new models, but also when they replace the oil in the older C-drives. I have seen Super Maramu's C-drives with SAE 80/90 oil replaced by the AMEL service team in La Rochelle (with the label mentioning the grade of oil and the engine hours attached to the C-drive tank).

So, if you (AMEL owners) replace oil in the C-drive, it's OK with 20W40 or 80/90. Don't mix both oils, but in case you do the of oil service of your C-drive, if you don't find one kind of oil, you may replace it with the other kind. 

The 55 and 64 owners will just follow what they are told in their owner's manual (SAE 80/90).

Cheers.

Olivier.



On Monday, April 11, 2016 7:13 PM, "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


 
I have confirmed that Amel Caribbean in Martinique now uses  GL5 80w90 Gear Oil when servicing Amel C Drives.
Is anyone else aware of this? It is a very interesting change.
I have not confirmed with La Rochelle.
Possibly Olivier might do this for us.
Bill
BeBe 387
Currently Martinique



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] C Drive Oil

Olivier Beaute
 

Hi Bill,

the C-drive has been designed by AMEL in 1989. There has been 3 different designs for the Santorin and Super Maramu, only one for the 54. Until the last 54, AMEL has recommended to use 20W40 oil only because that's the kind of oil you usually have on board (for engine and generator) if you need to top up the C-drive tank. And that would  avoid having two kinds of oil on board. In fact, this C-drive did not need this kind of oil (20W40) as it is made for high temperatures (that you find in a diesel engine). The C-drive oil rarely warms up more than 70°C.
Now, the manufacturer of the C-drive has changed and recommends the 80/90, and probably would deny warranty if this kind of oil is not used.
Again, in order to make things more simple, AMEL decided to use 80/90 gear oil for the new models, but also when they replace the oil in the older C-drives. I have seen Super Maramu's C-drives with SAE 80/90 oil replaced by the AMEL service team in La Rochelle (with the label mentioning the grade of oil and the engine hours attached to the C-drive tank).

So, if you (AMEL owners) replace oil in the C-drive, it's OK with 20W40 or 80/90. Don't mix both oils, but in case you do the of oil service of your C-drive, if you don't find one kind of oil, you may replace it with the other kind. 

The 55 and 64 owners will just follow what they are told in their owner's manual (SAE 80/90).

Cheers.

Olivier.



On Monday, April 11, 2016 7:13 PM, "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
I have confirmed that Amel Caribbean in Martinique now uses  GL5 80w90 Gear Oil when servicing Amel C Drives.
Is anyone else aware of this? It is a very interesting change.
I have not confirmed with La Rochelle.
Possibly Olivier might do this for us.
Bill
BeBe 387
Currently Martinique



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] C Drive Oil

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

That Interesting Bill.

The owner manual (which came with the boat) says to use 15W40 (which I used last March)
Near the C-Drive there is a plate saying to use 20W40

I just look at the invoice from Amel Martinique (Sept 2012) they indeed used 80W90
They also used 80W90 (instead of the 90) for the Bow Thruster.

I also would like to hear the reply you will obtain from Amel La Rochelle, hope it is not an overlook from Martinique.

Note: purchase the new foam for the Bow Thruster, Amel La Rochelle sells only 1 type now.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Private Slip, Marina Puerto Bahia, Samana, Dominican Republic





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On Mon, 4/11/16, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] C Drive Oil
To: amelyachtowners@...
Cc: "Olivier Beaute" <olivierbeaute@...>
Date: Monday, April 11, 2016, 12:12 PM


 









I have confirmed that Amel
Caribbean in Martinique now uses  GL5 80w90 Gear Oil when
servicing Amel C Drives.
Is anyone else aware of this? It is a very
interesting change.
I have not confirmed with La Rochelle.
Possibly Olivier might do this for us.
Bill

BeBe 387

Currently Martinique










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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] installation of dive compressor

sailormon <kimberlite@...>
 

Alexandre,

When I used to Cave Dive, the dive shops always had a lot of ice floating in the tank of water where they overfilled the tanks. Many dive shops that I have been to over the years fill tanks immersed in water.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 10:56 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: AW: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] installation of dive compressor

 

 

Thanks Joe,
I can definitely use a big fan to cool the compressor.
I have a friend that actually immerge his scuba tank in water…

Sincerely, Alexandre

--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 4/11/16, joemac4sail@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: AW: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] installation of dive compressor
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Monday, April 11, 2016, 9:37 AM


 









 Nice set up Alexandre with the Co


Nice set up with the compressor
Alexandre,  But for my 2p worth of 30 years as a sports
diver and several as a police  diver, the only time I
tended to be nervous was when filling cylinders, in the
thousands over the years.From worrying about getting rid of
the heat build up in the compressor and cylinders, and I was
usually working in a cold environment  in Ireland, to  the
bleeding and watching the system when filling.As
these compressors are light a position on deck for filling
would allow a better flow of air to be pushed through by the
fan to cool the compressor. Parts and service of compressors
tend to be expensive. Considering the cost would an initial expendature
on say 4 cylinders and filling them at dive shops where ever
you are, be a better option for the first year.. Regards
Joe

















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C Drive Oil

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

I have confirmed that Amel Caribbean in Martinique now uses  GL5 80w90 Gear Oil when servicing Amel C Drives.

Is anyone else aware of this? It is a very interesting change.

I have not confirmed with La Rochelle.

Possibly Olivier might do this for us.

Bill
BeBe 387
Currently Martinique


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] installation of dive compressor

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Thanks Joe,
I can definitely use a big fan to cool the compressor.
I have a friend that actually immerge his scuba tank in water…

Sincerely, Alexandre



--------------------------------------------

On Mon, 4/11/16, joemac4sail@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: AW: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] installation of dive compressor
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Monday, April 11, 2016, 9:37 AM


 









 Nice set up Alexandre with the Co


Nice set up with the compressor
Alexandre,  But for my 2p worth of 30 years as a sports
diver and several as a police  diver, the only time I
tended to be nervous was when filling cylinders, in the
thousands over the years.From worrying about getting rid of
the heat build up in the compressor and cylinders, and I was
usually working in a cold environment  in Ireland, to  the
bleeding and watching the system when filling.As
these compressors are light a position on deck for filling
would allow a better flow of air to be pushed through by the
fan to cool the compressor. Parts and service of compressors
tend to be expensive. Considering the cost would an initial expendature
on say 4 cylinders and filling them at dive shops where ever
you are, be a better option for the first year.. Regards
Joe

















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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] installation of dive compressor

joseph mc donnell
 

 Nice set up Alexandre with the Co



Nice set up with the compressor Alexandre,  But for my 2p worth of 30 years as a sports diver and several as a police  diver, the only time I tended to be nervous was when filling cylinders, in the thousands over the years.From worrying about getting rid of the heat build up in the compressor and cylinders, and I was usually working in a cold environment  in Ireland, to  the bleeding and watching the system when filling.
As these compressors are light a position on deck for filling would allow a better flow of air to be pushed through by the fan to cool the compressor. Parts and service of compressors tend to be expensive. Considering the cost would an initial expendature on say 4 cylinders and filling them at dive shops where ever you are, be a better option for the first year.. Regards Joe









Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] installation of dive compressor

Mark Erdos
 

Bob,

 

Would you be kind and send me the manual also. I have the same compressor. Thanks

 

mcerdos (at) gmail (dot) com

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Super Maramu 2000

Hull #275

www.creampuff.us

Currently cruising:  Exuma Islands - Bahamas

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 4:53 AM
To: Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]; amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: AW: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] installation of dive compressor

 

 

Alex, sent the manual, my compressor takes about 15 minutes per tank, 3200psi.


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On Sunday, April 10, 2016, 22:24, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Good morning Bob,

Normally uster@... works (note sometime the auto-correct put "user" and not "uster" (removing the "t")
Another email is: uster@... (same thing for auto correct removing the "t")

Thanks in advance BoB!!!
Have a great day and weekend!
Alexandre

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On Sat, 4/9/16, Bob Grey renaissanceiii@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: AW: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] installation of dive compressor
To: "yahoogroups" <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Saturday, April 9, 2016, 6:50 PM


 













Alexandre, send me your email address and
I'll send you a PDF of the manual. I tried your rocket
mail address and it bounced.
RobertRenaissance 3

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On
Saturday, April 9, 2016, 21:28, Alexandre Uster von Baar
uster@... [amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:
 











Good afternoon Robert,



Interesting… Last winter, I had mine fully serviced and
ask for the procedure (since I had never used it).

The dealer told me to do. Regarding the oil, they said my
old one was toxic and put the Tri-Ester Synethetic
Compressor Fluid R14.

May be they were over cautious…



Sincerely, Alexandre

SM2K #289 NIKIMAT

Private Slip, Marina Puerto Bahia, Samana, Dominican
Republic



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On Fri, 4/8/16, Bob Grey renaissanceiii@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:



Subject: Re: AW: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] installation of
dive compressor

To: "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@...
[amelyachtowners]"
<amelyachtowners@...>,
amelyachtowners@...

Date: Friday, April 8, 2016, 9:40 PM





 























Alexander, I have the same compressor on
my

boat although not as beautifully installed, I don't
have

to open the water traps during filling and also the
filter

seem to last  about 50 fills, the only way to check the

filter is by its added weight, so an accurate small
weight

scale is the only requirement there.

Humidity in southern Australia is

low and I'm using synthetic oil, this may explain
the

difference.







Robert GreyRenaissance

355 #15



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On

Thursday, April 7, 2016, 22:52, Alexandre Uster von Baar

uster@... [amelyachtowners]

<amelyachtowners@...>

wrote:

 























My pleasure, but ask Leopold (SM#69 Yin Yang) how he did

his.







Also I gave previously my opinion on the diving
compressor.





Since I had one onboard and I want everything in working

condition I had it serviced ($2k), but I am not sure I
would

add one as it is not so easy nor inexpensive to use.



1) every 7 minutes while filling up a tank you have to
open

valves and it takes 40 minutes to fill up a tank (and is

very noisy).



2) have to change the filter every 8 tanks and they have
a

limited shelf life of 1.5 year, I calculated the
operating

cost to fill up a tank at about $5 (not including the

purchase of the compressor and its big maintenance).



In the Bahamas, Turks & Caicos and even here in

Dominican Republic there are stores in many places to
fill

up tanks and they cost between $5 and $10.



I think it is good if you are in remote places or scuba
a

lot.



But I do believe it is important to have scuba tanks
onboard

in case (like it happened to me) you have the chain wrap

around a coral head, anchor stuck, etc.







Sincerely, Alexandre







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On Thu, 4/7/16, robin hutter robin6658@...

[amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@...>

wrote:







Subject: AW: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] installation of
dive

compressor



To: "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@...

[amelyachtowners]"

<amelyachtowners@...>



Date: Thursday, April 7, 2016, 7:28 AM











 















































wooaaaaawwww Alexandre - thanks a
million

-



perfect - I am duly impressed!!



fair winds



RobinSV



grosdoux



SM #56











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iPad







Am



Donnerstag, April 7, 2016, 13:10 schrieb Alexandre
Uster

von



Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]



<amelyachtowners@...>:



 







































Good morning Robin,















Here is a reply I made to Leopold (SM#69 Yin Yang) on

April



28, 2015







You might want to ask him if he had any difficulties



installing his.















I took some pictures and drawing I made at the time







http://nikimat.com/scuba_compressor_bauer_junior.html















I hope this will help you.















Sincerely, Alexandre







SM2K #289 NIKIMAT







Private Slip, Marina Puerto Bahia, Samana, Dominican



Republic















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On Thu, 4/7/16, robin.hutter@...
[amelyachtowners]



<amelyachtowners@...> wrote:















Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] installation of dive



compressor







To: amelyachtowners@...







Date: Thursday, April 7, 2016, 6:41 AM























 















































































Hi gang







when I bought GrosDoux







there was no dive compressor. I intend to change that



and







buy a Lenhardt @ Wagner LW 100 E1 ECO and install it.



Could







anyone let me know how Amel installs thes compressors?



Size







and weight is comparable to a Baur Junior







ll.thanks for any







assistance!







RobinSV







Gros-Douxwww.Gros-Doux.comSM







#56













































































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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] installation of dive compressor

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Hello again Bob,

From memory these filter were quite expensive, would love to get one that would be cheaper (and also with a longer shelf life).

Thanks again, will look at the blog in my spare time!!!

Thanks again! Alexandre




--------------------------------------------

On Mon, 4/11/16, Bob Grey renaissanceiii@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: AW: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] installation of dive compressor
To: "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Monday, April 11, 2016, 7:52 AM


 











Alexandre, there is a very good blog from an
Australian diver on his story on changing the oil from
mineral to synthetic and also great tips on the Bauer
compressor that he had used for many years, you might find
some good advice on why your compressor is taking so long to
fill tanks. http://www.michaelmcfadyenscuba.info/viewpage.php?page_id=16
With regard to the filter, I think
the manual is on the conservative side with regard to the
number of fills. The blog details a non Bauer filter you can
get that reduces the cost considerably.

Best RegardsBob
GreyRenaissance 3
Sent from Yahoo Mail for
iPad

On
Monday, April 11, 2016, 21:49, Alexandre Uster von Baar
uster@... [amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:
 









Good morning Bob,



Thanks so much for the compressor instruction manual.

I saw they say to drain all 3 location every 15 min (the
dearer recommended 7).



Somehow mine takes more than 15 minutes to fill up a 80 cu
ft tank (which is almost 12 liter) could it be because there
is more himidity?



Here on the manual they say 18 to 20 bottle per filter with
30*C ambient temperature, I need to learn ti weigh them as
you mentioned!



Thanks again for the manual!!!



Sincerely, Alexandre



--------------------------------------------

On Mon, 4/11/16, Bob Grey renaissanceiii@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:



Subject: Re: AW: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] installation of
dive compressor

To: "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@...
[amelyachtowners]"
<amelyachtowners@...>,
amelyachtowners@...

Date: Monday, April 11, 2016, 3:53 AM





 























Alex, sent the manual, my compressor
takes

about 15 minutes per tank, 3200psi.





Sent from

Yahoo Mail for iPad



On

Sunday, April 10, 2016, 22:24, Alexandre Uster von Baar

uster@... [amelyachtowners]

<amelyachtowners@...>

wrote:

 



















Good morning Bob,







Normally uster@... works (note sometime the

auto-correct put "user" and not
"uster"

(removing the "t")



Another email is: uster@... (same thing for
auto

correct removing the "t")







Thanks in advance BoB!!!



Have a great day and weekend!



Alexandre







--------------------------------------------



On Sat, 4/9/16, Bob Grey renaissanceiii@...

[amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@...>

wrote:







Subject: Re: AW: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] installation of

dive compressor



To: "yahoogroups"

<amelyachtowners@...>



Date: Saturday, April 9, 2016, 6:50 PM











 























































Alexandre, send me your email address

and



I'll send you a PDF of the manual. I tried your

rocket



mail address and it bounced.



RobertRenaissance 3







Sent from



Yahoo Mail for iPad







On



Saturday, April 9, 2016, 21:28, Alexandre Uster von
Baar



uster@... [amelyachtowners]



<amelyachtowners@...>



wrote:



 















































Good afternoon Robert,















Interesting… Last winter, I had mine fully serviced

and



ask for the procedure (since I had never used it).







The dealer told me to do. Regarding the oil, they said

my



old one was toxic and put the Tri-Ester Synethetic



Compressor Fluid R14.







May be they were over cautious…















Sincerely, Alexandre







SM2K #289 NIKIMAT







Private Slip, Marina Puerto Bahia, Samana, Dominican



Republic















--------------------------------------------







On Fri, 4/8/16, Bob Grey renaissanceiii@...



[amelyachtowners]

<amelyachtowners@...>



wrote:















Subject: Re: AW: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] installation
of



dive compressor







To: "Alexandre Uster von Baar
uster@...



[amelyachtowners]"



<amelyachtowners@...>,



amelyachtowners@...







Date: Friday, April 8, 2016, 9:40 PM























 































































































Alexander, I have the same compressor

on



my







boat although not as beautifully installed, I
don't



have







to open the water traps during filling and also the



filter







seem to last  about 50 fills, the only way to check

the







filter is by its added weight, so an accurate small



weight







scale is the only requirement there.







Humidity in southern Australia is







low and I'm using synthetic oil, this may explain



the







difference.































Robert GreyRenaissance







355 #15















Sent from Yahoo Mail for







iPad















On







Thursday, April 7, 2016, 22:52, Alexandre Uster von

Baar







uster@... [amelyachtowners]







<amelyachtowners@...>







wrote:







 































































































My pleasure, but ask Leopold (SM#69 Yin Yang) how he

did







his.































Also I gave previously my opinion on the diving



compressor.























Since I had one onboard and I want everything in

working







condition I had it serviced ($2k), but I am not sure I



would







add one as it is not so easy nor inexpensive to use.















1) every 7 minutes while filling up a tank you have to



open







valves and it takes 40 minutes to fill up a tank (and

is







very noisy).















2) have to change the filter every 8 tanks and they

have



a







limited shelf life of 1.5 year, I calculated the



operating







cost to fill up a tank at about $5 (not including the







purchase of the compressor and its big maintenance).















In the Bahamas, Turks & Caicos and even here in







Dominican Republic there are stores in many places to



fill







up tanks and they cost between $5 and $10.















I think it is good if you are in remote places or
scuba



a







lot.















But I do believe it is important to have scuba tanks



onboard







in case (like it happened to me) you have the chain

wrap







around a coral head, anchor stuck, etc.































Sincerely, Alexandre































--------------------------------------------















On Thu, 4/7/16, robin hutter robin6658@...







[amelyachtowners]



<amelyachtowners@...>







wrote:































Subject: AW: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] installation of



dive







compressor















To: "Alexandre Uster von Baar

uster@...







[amelyachtowners]"







<amelyachtowners@...>















Date: Thursday, April 7, 2016, 7:28 AM















































 































































































































































































wooaaaaawwww Alexandre - thanks a



million







-















perfect - I am duly impressed!!















fair winds















RobinSV















grosdoux















SM #56















































Gesendet von Yahoo Mail für















iPad































Am















Donnerstag, April 7, 2016, 13:10 schrieb Alexandre



Uster







von















Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]















<amelyachtowners@...>:















 































































































































































Good morning Robin,































































Here is a reply I made to Leopold (SM#69 Yin Yang) on







April















28, 2015































You might want to ask him if he had any difficulties















installing his.































































I took some pictures and drawing I made at the time































http://nikimat.com/scuba_compressor_bauer_junior.html































































I hope this will help you.































































Sincerely, Alexandre































SM2K #289 NIKIMAT































Private Slip, Marina Puerto Bahia, Samana, Dominican















Republic































































--------------------------------------------































On Thu, 4/7/16, robin.hutter@...



[amelyachtowners]















<amelyachtowners@...> wrote:































































Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] installation of dive















compressor































To: amelyachtowners@...































Date: Thursday, April 7, 2016, 6:41 AM































































































 































































































































































































































































































































Hi gang































when I bought GrosDoux































there was no dive compressor. I intend to change
that















and































buy a Lenhardt @ Wagner LW 100 E1 ECO and install
it.















Could































anyone let me know how Amel installs thes

compressors?















Size































and weight is comparable to a Baur Junior































ll.thanks for any































assistance!































RobinSV































Gros-Douxwww.Gros-Doux.comSM































#56























































































































































































































































































































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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] installation of dive compressor

Bob Grey
 

blockquote, div.yahoo_quoted { margin-left: 0 !important; border-left:1px #715FFA solid !important; padding-left:1ex !important; background-color:white !important; } Alexandre, there is a very good blog from an Australian diver on his story on changing the oil from mineral to synthetic and also great tips on the Bauer compressor that he had used for many years, you might find some good advice on why your compressor is taking so long to fill tanks. http://www.michaelmcfadyenscuba.info/viewpage.php?page_id=16
With regard to the filter, I think the manual is on the conservative side with regard to the number of fills. The blog details a non Bauer filter you can get that reduces the cost considerably.

Best RegardsBob GreyRenaissance 3
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

On Monday, April 11, 2016, 21:49, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 
Good morning Bob,

Thanks so much for the compressor instruction manual.
I saw they say to drain all 3 location every 15 min (the dearer recommended 7).

Somehow mine takes more than 15 minutes to fill up a 80 cu ft tank (which is almost 12 liter) could it be because there is more himidity?

Here on the manual they say 18 to 20 bottle per filter with 30*C ambient temperature, I need to learn ti weigh them as you mentioned!

Thanks again for the manual!!!

Sincerely, Alexandre

--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 4/11/16, Bob Grey renaissanceiii@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: AW: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] installation of dive compressor
To: "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>, amelyachtowners@...
Date: Monday, April 11, 2016, 3:53 AM


 











Alex, sent the manual, my compressor takes
about 15 minutes per tank, 3200psi.


Sent from
Yahoo Mail for iPad

On
Sunday, April 10, 2016, 22:24, Alexandre Uster von Baar
uster@... [amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:
 









Good morning Bob,



Normally uster@... works (note sometime the
auto-correct put "user" and not "uster"
(removing the "t")

Another email is: uster@... (same thing for auto
correct removing the "t")



Thanks in advance BoB!!!

Have a great day and weekend!

Alexandre



--------------------------------------------

On Sat, 4/9/16, Bob Grey renaissanceiii@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:



Subject: Re: AW: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] installation of
dive compressor

To: "yahoogroups"
<amelyachtowners@...>

Date: Saturday, April 9, 2016, 6:50 PM





 



























Alexandre, send me your email address
and

I'll send you a PDF of the manual. I tried your
rocket

mail address and it bounced.

RobertRenaissance 3



Sent from

Yahoo Mail for iPad



On

Saturday, April 9, 2016, 21:28, Alexandre Uster von Baar

uster@... [amelyachtowners]

<amelyachtowners@...>

wrote:

 























Good afternoon Robert,







Interesting… Last winter, I had mine fully serviced
and

ask for the procedure (since I had never used it).



The dealer told me to do. Regarding the oil, they said
my

old one was toxic and put the Tri-Ester Synethetic

Compressor Fluid R14.



May be they were over cautious…







Sincerely, Alexandre



SM2K #289 NIKIMAT



Private Slip, Marina Puerto Bahia, Samana, Dominican

Republic







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On Fri, 4/8/16, Bob Grey renaissanceiii@...

[amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@...>

wrote:







Subject: Re: AW: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] installation of

dive compressor



To: "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@...

[amelyachtowners]"

<amelyachtowners@...>,

amelyachtowners@...



Date: Friday, April 8, 2016, 9:40 PM











 















































Alexander, I have the same compressor
on

my



boat although not as beautifully installed, I don't

have



to open the water traps during filling and also the

filter



seem to last  about 50 fills, the only way to check
the



filter is by its added weight, so an accurate small

weight



scale is the only requirement there.



Humidity in southern Australia is



low and I'm using synthetic oil, this may explain

the



difference.















Robert GreyRenaissance



355 #15







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iPad







On



Thursday, April 7, 2016, 22:52, Alexandre Uster von
Baar



uster@... [amelyachtowners]



<amelyachtowners@...>



wrote:



 















































My pleasure, but ask Leopold (SM#69 Yin Yang) how he
did



his.















Also I gave previously my opinion on the diving

compressor.











Since I had one onboard and I want everything in
working



condition I had it serviced ($2k), but I am not sure I

would



add one as it is not so easy nor inexpensive to use.







1) every 7 minutes while filling up a tank you have to

open



valves and it takes 40 minutes to fill up a tank (and
is



very noisy).







2) have to change the filter every 8 tanks and they
have

a



limited shelf life of 1.5 year, I calculated the

operating



cost to fill up a tank at about $5 (not including the



purchase of the compressor and its big maintenance).







In the Bahamas, Turks & Caicos and even here in



Dominican Republic there are stores in many places to

fill



up tanks and they cost between $5 and $10.







I think it is good if you are in remote places or scuba

a



lot.







But I do believe it is important to have scuba tanks

onboard



in case (like it happened to me) you have the chain
wrap



around a coral head, anchor stuck, etc.















Sincerely, Alexandre















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On Thu, 4/7/16, robin hutter robin6658@...



[amelyachtowners]

<amelyachtowners@...>



wrote:















Subject: AW: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] installation of

dive



compressor







To: "Alexandre Uster von Baar
uster@...



[amelyachtowners]"



<amelyachtowners@...>







Date: Thursday, April 7, 2016, 7:28 AM























 































































































wooaaaaawwww Alexandre - thanks a

million



-







perfect - I am duly impressed!!







fair winds







RobinSV







grosdoux







SM #56























Gesendet von Yahoo Mail für







iPad















Am







Donnerstag, April 7, 2016, 13:10 schrieb Alexandre

Uster



von







Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]







<amelyachtowners@...>:







 















































































Good morning Robin,































Here is a reply I made to Leopold (SM#69 Yin Yang) on



April







28, 2015















You might want to ask him if he had any difficulties







installing his.































I took some pictures and drawing I made at the time















http://nikimat.com/scuba_compressor_bauer_junior.html































I hope this will help you.































Sincerely, Alexandre















SM2K #289 NIKIMAT















Private Slip, Marina Puerto Bahia, Samana, Dominican







Republic































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On Thu, 4/7/16, robin.hutter@...

[amelyachtowners]







<amelyachtowners@...> wrote:































Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] installation of dive







compressor















To: amelyachtowners@...















Date: Thursday, April 7, 2016, 6:41 AM















































 































































































































































Hi gang















when I bought GrosDoux















there was no dive compressor. I intend to change that







and















buy a Lenhardt @ Wagner LW 100 E1 ECO and install it.







Could















anyone let me know how Amel installs thes
compressors?







Size















and weight is comparable to a Baur Junior















ll.thanks for any















assistance!















RobinSV















Gros-Douxwww.Gros-Doux.comSM















#56



























































































































































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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] installation of dive compressor

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning Bob,

Thanks so much for the compressor instruction manual.
I saw they say to drain all 3 location every 15 min (the dearer recommended 7).

Somehow mine takes more than 15 minutes to fill up a 80 cu ft tank (which is almost 12 liter) could it be because there is more himidity?

Here on the manual they say 18 to 20 bottle per filter with 30*C ambient temperature, I need to learn ti weigh them as you mentioned!

Thanks again for the manual!!!

Sincerely, Alexandre




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On Mon, 4/11/16, Bob Grey renaissanceiii@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: AW: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] installation of dive compressor
To: "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>, amelyachtowners@...
Date: Monday, April 11, 2016, 3:53 AM


 











Alex, sent the manual, my compressor takes
about 15 minutes per tank, 3200psi.


Sent from
Yahoo Mail for iPad

On
Sunday, April 10, 2016, 22:24, Alexandre Uster von Baar
uster@... [amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:
 









Good morning Bob,



Normally uster@... works (note sometime the
auto-correct put "user" and not "uster"
(removing the "t")

Another email is: uster@... (same thing for auto
correct removing the "t")



Thanks in advance BoB!!!

Have a great day and weekend!

Alexandre



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On Sat, 4/9/16, Bob Grey renaissanceiii@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:



Subject: Re: AW: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] installation of
dive compressor

To: "yahoogroups"
<amelyachtowners@...>

Date: Saturday, April 9, 2016, 6:50 PM





 



























Alexandre, send me your email address
and

I'll send you a PDF of the manual. I tried your
rocket

mail address and it bounced.

RobertRenaissance 3



Sent from

Yahoo Mail for iPad



On

Saturday, April 9, 2016, 21:28, Alexandre Uster von Baar

uster@... [amelyachtowners]

<amelyachtowners@...>

wrote:

 























Good afternoon Robert,







Interesting… Last winter, I had mine fully serviced
and

ask for the procedure (since I had never used it).



The dealer told me to do. Regarding the oil, they said
my

old one was toxic and put the Tri-Ester Synethetic

Compressor Fluid R14.



May be they were over cautious…







Sincerely, Alexandre



SM2K #289 NIKIMAT



Private Slip, Marina Puerto Bahia, Samana, Dominican

Republic







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On Fri, 4/8/16, Bob Grey renaissanceiii@...

[amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@...>

wrote:







Subject: Re: AW: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] installation of

dive compressor



To: "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@...

[amelyachtowners]"

<amelyachtowners@...>,

amelyachtowners@...



Date: Friday, April 8, 2016, 9:40 PM











 















































Alexander, I have the same compressor
on

my



boat although not as beautifully installed, I don't

have



to open the water traps during filling and also the

filter



seem to last  about 50 fills, the only way to check
the



filter is by its added weight, so an accurate small

weight



scale is the only requirement there.



Humidity in southern Australia is



low and I'm using synthetic oil, this may explain

the



difference.















Robert GreyRenaissance



355 #15







Sent from Yahoo Mail for



iPad







On



Thursday, April 7, 2016, 22:52, Alexandre Uster von
Baar



uster@... [amelyachtowners]



<amelyachtowners@...>



wrote:



 















































My pleasure, but ask Leopold (SM#69 Yin Yang) how he
did



his.















Also I gave previously my opinion on the diving

compressor.











Since I had one onboard and I want everything in
working



condition I had it serviced ($2k), but I am not sure I

would



add one as it is not so easy nor inexpensive to use.







1) every 7 minutes while filling up a tank you have to

open



valves and it takes 40 minutes to fill up a tank (and
is



very noisy).







2) have to change the filter every 8 tanks and they
have

a



limited shelf life of 1.5 year, I calculated the

operating



cost to fill up a tank at about $5 (not including the



purchase of the compressor and its big maintenance).







In the Bahamas, Turks & Caicos and even here in



Dominican Republic there are stores in many places to

fill



up tanks and they cost between $5 and $10.







I think it is good if you are in remote places or scuba

a



lot.







But I do believe it is important to have scuba tanks

onboard



in case (like it happened to me) you have the chain
wrap



around a coral head, anchor stuck, etc.















Sincerely, Alexandre















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On Thu, 4/7/16, robin hutter robin6658@...



[amelyachtowners]

<amelyachtowners@...>



wrote:















Subject: AW: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] installation of

dive



compressor







To: "Alexandre Uster von Baar
uster@...



[amelyachtowners]"



<amelyachtowners@...>







Date: Thursday, April 7, 2016, 7:28 AM























 































































































wooaaaaawwww Alexandre - thanks a

million



-







perfect - I am duly impressed!!







fair winds







RobinSV







grosdoux







SM #56























Gesendet von Yahoo Mail für







iPad















Am







Donnerstag, April 7, 2016, 13:10 schrieb Alexandre

Uster



von







Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]







<amelyachtowners@...>:







 















































































Good morning Robin,































Here is a reply I made to Leopold (SM#69 Yin Yang) on



April







28, 2015















You might want to ask him if he had any difficulties







installing his.































I took some pictures and drawing I made at the time















http://nikimat.com/scuba_compressor_bauer_junior.html































I hope this will help you.































Sincerely, Alexandre















SM2K #289 NIKIMAT















Private Slip, Marina Puerto Bahia, Samana, Dominican







Republic































--------------------------------------------















On Thu, 4/7/16, robin.hutter@...

[amelyachtowners]







<amelyachtowners@...> wrote:































Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] installation of dive







compressor















To: amelyachtowners@...















Date: Thursday, April 7, 2016, 6:41 AM















































 































































































































































Hi gang















when I bought GrosDoux















there was no dive compressor. I intend to change that







and















buy a Lenhardt @ Wagner LW 100 E1 ECO and install it.







Could















anyone let me know how Amel installs thes
compressors?







Size















and weight is comparable to a Baur Junior















ll.thanks for any















assistance!















RobinSV















Gros-Douxwww.Gros-Doux.comSM















#56



























































































































































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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] installation of dive compressor

Bob Grey
 

blockquote, div.yahoo_quoted { margin-left: 0 !important; border-left:1px #715FFA solid !important; padding-left:1ex !important; background-color:white !important; } Alex, sent the manual, my compressor takes about 15 minutes per tank, 3200psi.


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad

On Sunday, April 10, 2016, 22:24, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 
Good morning Bob,

Normally uster@... works (note sometime the auto-correct put "user" and not "uster" (removing the "t")
Another email is: uster@... (same thing for auto correct removing the "t")

Thanks in advance BoB!!!
Have a great day and weekend!
Alexandre

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On Sat, 4/9/16, Bob Grey renaissanceiii@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: AW: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] installation of dive compressor
To: "yahoogroups" <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Saturday, April 9, 2016, 6:50 PM


 













Alexandre, send me your email address and
I'll send you a PDF of the manual. I tried your rocket
mail address and it bounced.
RobertRenaissance 3

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Yahoo Mail for iPad

On
Saturday, April 9, 2016, 21:28, Alexandre Uster von Baar
uster@... [amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:
 











Good afternoon Robert,



Interesting… Last winter, I had mine fully serviced and
ask for the procedure (since I had never used it).

The dealer told me to do. Regarding the oil, they said my
old one was toxic and put the Tri-Ester Synethetic
Compressor Fluid R14.

May be they were over cautious…



Sincerely, Alexandre

SM2K #289 NIKIMAT

Private Slip, Marina Puerto Bahia, Samana, Dominican
Republic



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On Fri, 4/8/16, Bob Grey renaissanceiii@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:



Subject: Re: AW: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] installation of
dive compressor

To: "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@...
[amelyachtowners]"
<amelyachtowners@...>,
amelyachtowners@...

Date: Friday, April 8, 2016, 9:40 PM





 























Alexander, I have the same compressor on
my

boat although not as beautifully installed, I don't
have

to open the water traps during filling and also the
filter

seem to last  about 50 fills, the only way to check the

filter is by its added weight, so an accurate small
weight

scale is the only requirement there.

Humidity in southern Australia is

low and I'm using synthetic oil, this may explain
the

difference.







Robert GreyRenaissance

355 #15



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iPad



On

Thursday, April 7, 2016, 22:52, Alexandre Uster von Baar

uster@... [amelyachtowners]

<amelyachtowners@...>

wrote:

 























My pleasure, but ask Leopold (SM#69 Yin Yang) how he did

his.







Also I gave previously my opinion on the diving
compressor.





Since I had one onboard and I want everything in working

condition I had it serviced ($2k), but I am not sure I
would

add one as it is not so easy nor inexpensive to use.



1) every 7 minutes while filling up a tank you have to
open

valves and it takes 40 minutes to fill up a tank (and is

very noisy).



2) have to change the filter every 8 tanks and they have
a

limited shelf life of 1.5 year, I calculated the
operating

cost to fill up a tank at about $5 (not including the

purchase of the compressor and its big maintenance).



In the Bahamas, Turks & Caicos and even here in

Dominican Republic there are stores in many places to
fill

up tanks and they cost between $5 and $10.



I think it is good if you are in remote places or scuba
a

lot.



But I do believe it is important to have scuba tanks
onboard

in case (like it happened to me) you have the chain wrap

around a coral head, anchor stuck, etc.







Sincerely, Alexandre







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On Thu, 4/7/16, robin hutter robin6658@...

[amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@...>

wrote:







Subject: AW: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] installation of
dive

compressor



To: "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@...

[amelyachtowners]"

<amelyachtowners@...>



Date: Thursday, April 7, 2016, 7:28 AM











 















































wooaaaaawwww Alexandre - thanks a
million

-



perfect - I am duly impressed!!



fair winds



RobinSV



grosdoux



SM #56











Gesendet von Yahoo Mail für



iPad







Am



Donnerstag, April 7, 2016, 13:10 schrieb Alexandre
Uster

von



Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]



<amelyachtowners@...>:



 







































Good morning Robin,















Here is a reply I made to Leopold (SM#69 Yin Yang) on

April



28, 2015







You might want to ask him if he had any difficulties



installing his.















I took some pictures and drawing I made at the time







http://nikimat.com/scuba_compressor_bauer_junior.html















I hope this will help you.















Sincerely, Alexandre







SM2K #289 NIKIMAT







Private Slip, Marina Puerto Bahia, Samana, Dominican



Republic















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On Thu, 4/7/16, robin.hutter@...
[amelyachtowners]



<amelyachtowners@...> wrote:















Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] installation of dive



compressor







To: amelyachtowners@...







Date: Thursday, April 7, 2016, 6:41 AM























 















































































Hi gang







when I bought GrosDoux







there was no dive compressor. I intend to change that



and







buy a Lenhardt @ Wagner LW 100 E1 ECO and install it.



Could







anyone let me know how Amel installs thes compressors?



Size







and weight is comparable to a Baur Junior







ll.thanks for any







assistance!







RobinSV







Gros-Douxwww.Gros-Doux.comSM







#56













































































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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] installation of dive compressor

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning Bob,

Normally uster@... works (note sometime the auto-correct put "user" and not "uster" (removing the "t")
Another email is: uster@... (same thing for auto correct removing the "t")

Thanks in advance BoB!!!
Have a great day and weekend!
Alexandre



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On Sat, 4/9/16, Bob Grey renaissanceiii@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: AW: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] installation of dive compressor
To: "yahoogroups" <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Saturday, April 9, 2016, 6:50 PM


 













Alexandre, send me your email address and
I'll send you a PDF of the manual. I tried your rocket
mail address and it bounced.
RobertRenaissance 3

Sent from
Yahoo Mail for iPad

On
Saturday, April 9, 2016, 21:28, Alexandre Uster von Baar
uster@... [amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:
 











Good afternoon Robert,



Interesting… Last winter, I had mine fully serviced and
ask for the procedure (since I had never used it).

The dealer told me to do. Regarding the oil, they said my
old one was toxic and put the Tri-Ester Synethetic
Compressor Fluid R14.

May be they were over cautious…



Sincerely, Alexandre

SM2K #289 NIKIMAT

Private Slip, Marina Puerto Bahia, Samana, Dominican
Republic



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On Fri, 4/8/16, Bob Grey renaissanceiii@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:



Subject: Re: AW: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] installation of
dive compressor

To: "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@...
[amelyachtowners]"
<amelyachtowners@...>,
amelyachtowners@...

Date: Friday, April 8, 2016, 9:40 PM





 























Alexander, I have the same compressor on
my

boat although not as beautifully installed, I don't
have

to open the water traps during filling and also the
filter

seem to last  about 50 fills, the only way to check the

filter is by its added weight, so an accurate small
weight

scale is the only requirement there.

Humidity in southern Australia is

low and I'm using synthetic oil, this may explain
the

difference.







Robert GreyRenaissance

355 #15



Sent from Yahoo Mail for

iPad



On

Thursday, April 7, 2016, 22:52, Alexandre Uster von Baar

uster@... [amelyachtowners]

<amelyachtowners@...>

wrote:

 























My pleasure, but ask Leopold (SM#69 Yin Yang) how he did

his.







Also I gave previously my opinion on the diving
compressor.





Since I had one onboard and I want everything in working

condition I had it serviced ($2k), but I am not sure I
would

add one as it is not so easy nor inexpensive to use.



1) every 7 minutes while filling up a tank you have to
open

valves and it takes 40 minutes to fill up a tank (and is

very noisy).



2) have to change the filter every 8 tanks and they have
a

limited shelf life of 1.5 year, I calculated the
operating

cost to fill up a tank at about $5 (not including the

purchase of the compressor and its big maintenance).



In the Bahamas, Turks & Caicos and even here in

Dominican Republic there are stores in many places to
fill

up tanks and they cost between $5 and $10.



I think it is good if you are in remote places or scuba
a

lot.



But I do believe it is important to have scuba tanks
onboard

in case (like it happened to me) you have the chain wrap

around a coral head, anchor stuck, etc.







Sincerely, Alexandre







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On Thu, 4/7/16, robin hutter robin6658@...

[amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@...>

wrote:







Subject: AW: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] installation of
dive

compressor



To: "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@...

[amelyachtowners]"

<amelyachtowners@...>



Date: Thursday, April 7, 2016, 7:28 AM











 















































wooaaaaawwww Alexandre - thanks a
million

-



perfect - I am duly impressed!!



fair winds



RobinSV



grosdoux



SM #56











Gesendet von Yahoo Mail für



iPad







Am



Donnerstag, April 7, 2016, 13:10 schrieb Alexandre
Uster

von



Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]



<amelyachtowners@...>:



 







































Good morning Robin,















Here is a reply I made to Leopold (SM#69 Yin Yang) on

April



28, 2015







You might want to ask him if he had any difficulties



installing his.















I took some pictures and drawing I made at the time







http://nikimat.com/scuba_compressor_bauer_junior.html















I hope this will help you.















Sincerely, Alexandre







SM2K #289 NIKIMAT







Private Slip, Marina Puerto Bahia, Samana, Dominican



Republic















--------------------------------------------







On Thu, 4/7/16, robin.hutter@...
[amelyachtowners]



<amelyachtowners@...> wrote:















Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] installation of dive



compressor







To: amelyachtowners@...







Date: Thursday, April 7, 2016, 6:41 AM























 















































































Hi gang







when I bought GrosDoux







there was no dive compressor. I intend to change that



and







buy a Lenhardt @ Wagner LW 100 E1 ECO and install it.



Could







anyone let me know how Amel installs thes compressors?



Size







and weight is comparable to a Baur Junior







ll.thanks for any







assistance!







RobinSV







Gros-Douxwww.Gros-Doux.comSM







#56













































































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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bleeding off air in Yanmar 75 hp

Ben and Gayle Super Maramu #347
 

Bill and Eric,
Thanks for the replies.  As this is first time I've  had such a fuel filter leak I suspect one of the causes you suggest.  I need to determine which.  

Ben Driver
La Bella Vita
SM #347

On Apr 7, 2016, at 3:50 PM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
T RMI 

 

Ben,

I am glad you got this far.

On a Yanmar with a water sensor inside the fuel filter housing, it is always best to remove the two bolts securing the filter housing to the motor, then unscrew the housing from the plastic nut without turning the nut and twisting the wires. As soon as you begin to loosen the housing from the nut fuel will begin to run out through the plastic hose...be prepared.

My guess is that you did not place the O Ring at the bottom of the fuel filter. Possibly you did and it is not seated properly,  or maybe you forgot to properly lubricate the O ring. It is also possible that one of the wires are in the nut threads.

There should be zero diesel leaking from any point on your engine.

I hope this helps you. Let me know if it does.

Bill BeBe 387
Currently Martinique

On Mar 18, 2016 15:34, "Ben Driver/YAHOO joedoakes66@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Gentlemen,
Thanks for the good advice.  It turned out to be an air leak in the bottom of the primary filter.  I removed,  cleaned, and carefully threaded bottom water sensor on (being careful not to damage wires) then opened bleed screw and to remove air and motor now runs well.  

When Bill said it was near impossible to pump primer when bleed screw is tight, I realized the problem.  I could pump and fuel was escaping through threads in water sensor cap.

Thanks again.  



Ben Driver
La Bella Vita
SM #347

On Mar 18, 2016, at 8:48 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Ben, 

If you can pump the manual pump on top of the fuel filter housing on the Yanmar, you probably have not sealed the filter and you are sucking air which is causing your problem. When the filter is installed correctly, it is near impossible to pump that manual pump unless you open the screw that Mark describes.

It is a little tricky to replace that fuel filter because of the wires that go to the sensor at the plastic nut at the bottom of the of the filter assembly. If you try to unscrew and screw that nylon nut, you may damage the wires, twist the wires, and/or get them into the treads. Loosen the entire assembly from the motor mount, then turn the assembly holding the nut stationary. As soon as you complete about 1 turn, fuel will begin to drain from the drain hose which is about 1 foot long and attached to a fitting on the nut. The drain hose gets brittle and may have fallen off...if so, replace it. To remove the filter from the assembly continue to turn until the plastic nut is loose from the bottom of the filter...reverse the process when placing a new filter. Use the drain hose to capture most of the fuel. Protect the 175amp alternator from fuel spills. When everything is back together, open the vent screw (purple or blue) and pump until no air is coming out. Remember, if you have a dual Racor, the point on the short tip of the valve handle points to the active filter...NOT the long handle.

It is possible that after you do the above correctly that you will need to bleed each of the injectors as Mark described. Be sure that you do not fill up the muffler with salt water. It is best that you have some experience with you when you do this the first time.

I bet that there is a youtube video of this out there. I did a search on "Yanmar fuel filter replacement" and saw several that may help you. The real issue for you is probably the wires on the nut at the bottom of the filter assembly.

I hope this helps.

Bill
BeBe 387
Pitons, St. Lucia



On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 3:03 AM, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Ben,

 

There are a couple of different processes. On the 4JH4 there is an air bleed nut on top of the fuel filter assembly. You will find the nut in-line with the fuel line on the top of the housing for the fuel filter. Loosen this nut 2-3 turns. Feed fuel through the pump by pushing the lever on the side of the pump up and down until no air comes out of the nut and then tighten it. You can also crank the engine with the nut loose rather than pump the fuel with the lever. This is all that needs to be done. The engine may run rough for a little bit until the all the air is purged out. I am not sure if the 4JH3 is set up the same way.

 

On some other engines, you need to follow each fuel line to the injectors. Loosen each fitting and crank the engine. Crank the engine until no air comes out – usually about 10-20 seconds per injector. I put a paper towel under each connection so I can see the fuel coming out. You really need two people; one to crank and one to watch for the bubbles to disappear.

 

IMPORTANT - While cranking the engine without it firing, be sure to open the drain on the water-lift muffler. If you crank the engine for more than about one minute without it firing up, you will back water up into the cylinders since the water pumps is running. The exhaust will not be under enough pressure to push the cooling seawater up out of the boat. This is not good.

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Super Maramu 2000

Hull #275

www.creampuff.us

Currently cruising:  George Town – Great Exuma Island - Bahamas

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 9:24 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bleeding off air in Yanmar 75 hp

 

 

I could use some help bleeding air out my Yanmar Deisel.  I changed the primary and secondary fuel filter on Yanmar 4-JH3-TE for the first time - I bought this boat recently.  Not sure why but cannot keep engine running.  I bled-off Racor then primary on engine but engine runs roughly for about 5 minutes and then stalls.  I can keep it running if I pump the primary filter continuously (this is primer on top of the fuel filter).  If I put boat in neutral and advance throttle, it momentarily revs then it shuts down.  clearly not getting fuel.

 

Up until I changed filters, motor ran flawlessly so clearly my problems are result of my recent maintenance. 

 

i would appreciate any suggestions.

 

New SM owner

Ben Driver

La Bella Vita

SM #347

Currently in Puerto Del Rey Marina, PR

 



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] installation of dive compressor

Bob Grey
 

Alexandre, send me your email address and I'll send you a PDF of the manual. I tried your rocket mail address and it bounced.

Robert

On Saturday, April 9, 2016, 21:28, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

 


Good afternoon Robert,

Interesting… Last winter, I had mine fully serviced and ask for the procedure (since I had never used it).
The dealer told me to do. Regarding the oil, they said my old one was toxic and put the Tri-Ester Synethetic Compressor Fluid R14.
May be they were over cautious…

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Private Slip, Marina Puerto Bahia, Samana, Dominican Republic

--------------------------------------------
On Fri, 4/8/16, Bob Grey renaissanceiii@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

Subject: Re: AW: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] installation of dive compressor
To: "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]" , amelyachtowners@...
Date: Friday, April 8, 2016, 9:40 PM


 











Alexander, I have the same compressor on my
boat although not as beautifully installed, I don't have
to open the water traps during filling and also the filter
seem to last  about 50 fills, the only way to check the
filter is by its added weight, so an accurate small weight
scale is the only requirement there.
Humidity in southern Australia is
low and I'm using synthetic oil, this may explain the
difference.



Robert GreyRenaissance
355 #15

Sent from Yahoo Mail for
iPad

On
Thursday, April 7, 2016, 22:52, Alexandre Uster von Baar
uster@... [amelyachtowners]

wrote:
 











My pleasure, but ask Leopold (SM#69 Yin Yang) how he did
his.



Also I gave previously my opinion on the diving compressor.


Since I had one onboard and I want everything in working
condition I had it serviced ($2k), but I am not sure I would
add one as it is not so easy nor inexpensive to use.

1) every 7 minutes while filling up a tank you have to open
valves and it takes 40 minutes to fill up a tank (and is
very noisy).

2) have to change the filter every 8 tanks and they have a
limited shelf life of 1.5 year, I calculated the operating
cost to fill up a tank at about $5 (not including the
purchase of the compressor and its big maintenance).

In the Bahamas, Turks & Caicos and even here in
Dominican Republic there are stores in many places to fill
up tanks and they cost between $5 and $10.

I think it is good if you are in remote places or scuba a
lot.

But I do believe it is important to have scuba tanks onboard
in case (like it happened to me) you have the chain wrap
around a coral head, anchor stuck, etc.



Sincerely, Alexandre



--------------------------------------------

On Thu, 4/7/16, robin hutter robin6658@...
[amelyachtowners]
wrote:



Subject: AW: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] installation of dive
compressor

To: "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@...
[amelyachtowners]"


Date: Thursday, April 7, 2016, 7:28 AM





 























wooaaaaawwww Alexandre - thanks a million
-

perfect - I am duly impressed!!

fair winds

RobinSV

grosdoux

SM #56





Gesendet von Yahoo Mail für

iPad



Am

Donnerstag, April 7, 2016, 13:10 schrieb Alexandre Uster
von

Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]

:

 



















Good morning Robin,







Here is a reply I made to Leopold (SM#69 Yin Yang) on
April

28, 2015



You might want to ask him if he had any difficulties

installing his.







I took some pictures and drawing I made at the time



http://nikimat.com/scuba_compressor_bauer_junior.html







I hope this will help you.







Sincerely, Alexandre



SM2K #289 NIKIMAT



Private Slip, Marina Puerto Bahia, Samana, Dominican

Republic







--------------------------------------------



On Thu, 4/7/16, robin.hutter@... [amelyachtowners]

wrote:







Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] installation of dive

compressor



To: amelyachtowners@...



Date: Thursday, April 7, 2016, 6:41 AM











 







































Hi gang



when I bought GrosDoux



there was no dive compressor. I intend to change that

and



buy a Lenhardt @ Wagner LW 100 E1 ECO and install it.

Could



anyone let me know how Amel installs thes compressors?

Size



and weight is comparable to a Baur Junior



ll.thanks for any



assistance!



RobinSV



Gros-Douxwww.Gros-Doux.comSM



#56






































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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] installation of dive compressor

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good afternoon Robert,

Interesting… Last winter, I had mine fully serviced and ask for the procedure (since I had never used it).
The dealer told me to do. Regarding the oil, they said my old one was toxic and put the Tri-Ester Synethetic Compressor Fluid R14.
May be they were over cautious…

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Private Slip, Marina Puerto Bahia, Samana, Dominican Republic





--------------------------------------------

On Fri, 4/8/16, Bob Grey renaissanceiii@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: AW: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] installation of dive compressor
To: "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>, amelyachtowners@...
Date: Friday, April 8, 2016, 9:40 PM


 











Alexander, I have the same compressor on my
boat although not as beautifully installed, I don't have
to open the water traps during filling and also the filter
seem to last  about 50 fills, the only way to check the
filter is by its added weight, so an accurate small weight
scale is the only requirement there.
Humidity in southern Australia is
low and I'm using synthetic oil, this may explain the
difference.



Robert GreyRenaissance
355 #15

Sent from Yahoo Mail for
iPad

On
Thursday, April 7, 2016, 22:52, Alexandre Uster von Baar
uster@... [amelyachtowners]
<amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:
 











My pleasure, but ask Leopold (SM#69 Yin Yang) how he did
his.



Also I gave previously my opinion on the diving compressor.


Since I had one onboard and I want everything in working
condition I had it serviced ($2k), but I am not sure I would
add one as it is not so easy nor inexpensive to use.

1) every 7 minutes while filling up a tank you have to open
valves and it takes 40 minutes to fill up a tank (and is
very noisy).

2) have to change the filter every 8 tanks and they have a
limited shelf life of 1.5 year, I calculated the operating
cost to fill up a tank at about $5 (not including the
purchase of the compressor and its big maintenance).

In the Bahamas, Turks & Caicos and even here in
Dominican Republic there are stores in many places to fill
up tanks and they cost between $5 and $10.

I think it is good if you are in remote places or scuba a
lot.

But I do believe it is important to have scuba tanks onboard
in case (like it happened to me) you have the chain wrap
around a coral head, anchor stuck, etc.



Sincerely, Alexandre



--------------------------------------------

On Thu, 4/7/16, robin hutter robin6658@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:



Subject: AW: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] installation of dive
compressor

To: "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@...
[amelyachtowners]"
<amelyachtowners@...>

Date: Thursday, April 7, 2016, 7:28 AM





 























wooaaaaawwww Alexandre - thanks a million
-

perfect - I am duly impressed!!

fair winds

RobinSV

grosdoux

SM #56





Gesendet von Yahoo Mail für

iPad



Am

Donnerstag, April 7, 2016, 13:10 schrieb Alexandre Uster
von

Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]

<amelyachtowners@...>:

 



















Good morning Robin,







Here is a reply I made to Leopold (SM#69 Yin Yang) on
April

28, 2015



You might want to ask him if he had any difficulties

installing his.







I took some pictures and drawing I made at the time



http://nikimat.com/scuba_compressor_bauer_junior.html







I hope this will help you.







Sincerely, Alexandre



SM2K #289 NIKIMAT



Private Slip, Marina Puerto Bahia, Samana, Dominican

Republic







--------------------------------------------



On Thu, 4/7/16, robin.hutter@... [amelyachtowners]

<amelyachtowners@...> wrote:







Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] installation of dive

compressor



To: amelyachtowners@...



Date: Thursday, April 7, 2016, 6:41 AM











 







































Hi gang



when I bought GrosDoux



there was no dive compressor. I intend to change that

and



buy a Lenhardt @ Wagner LW 100 E1 ECO and install it.

Could



anyone let me know how Amel installs thes compressors?

Size



and weight is comparable to a Baur Junior



ll.thanks for any



assistance!



RobinSV



Gros-Douxwww.Gros-Doux.comSM



#56






































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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: What is the Magic Password to get Amel to Respond

Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...>
 


/Ann-Sofie
S/Y Lady Annila, SM232, 1998

Skickat från min iPad

9 apr. 2016 kl. 01:19 skrev ericmeury@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

Where is the new site that Gary is making.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: What is the Magic Password to get Amel to Respond

Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
 

It is www dot amelowners dot net.

Cheers,

Jean-Pierre Germain
Eleuthera, SM 007


On 9 Apr 2016, at 01:19, ericmeury@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Where is the new site that Gary is making.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] installation of dive compressor

Bob Grey
 

Alexander, I have the same compressor on my boat although not as beautifully installed, I don't have to open the water traps during filling and also the filter seem to last  about 50 fills, the only way to check the filter is by its added weight, so an accurate small weight scale is the only requirement there.

Humidity in southern Australia is low and I'm using synthetic oil, this may explain the difference.




Robert Grey
Renaissance 3

On Thursday, April 7, 2016, 22:52, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 


My pleasure, but ask Leopold (SM#69 Yin Yang) how he did his.

Also I gave previously my opinion on the diving compressor.
Since I had one onboard and I want everything in working condition I had it serviced ($2k), but I am not sure I would add one as it is not so easy nor inexpensive to use.
1) every 7 minutes while filling up a tank you have to open valves and it takes 40 minutes to fill up a tank (and is very noisy).
2) have to change the filter every 8 tanks and they have a limited shelf life of 1.5 year, I calculated the operating cost to fill up a tank at about $5 (not including the purchase of the compressor and its big maintenance).
In the Bahamas, Turks & Caicos and even here in Dominican Republic there are stores in many places to fill up tanks and they cost between $5 and $10.
I think it is good if you are in remote places or scuba a lot.
But I do believe it is important to have scuba tanks onboard in case (like it happened to me) you have the chain wrap around a coral head, anchor stuck, etc.

Sincerely, Alexandre

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On Thu, 4/7/16, robin hutter robin6658@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

Subject: AW: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] installation of dive compressor
To: "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]"
Date: Thursday, April 7, 2016, 7:28 AM


 











wooaaaaawwww Alexandre - thanks a million -
perfect - I am duly impressed!!
fair winds
RobinSV
grosdoux
SM #56


Gesendet von Yahoo Mail für
iPad

Am
Donnerstag, April 7, 2016, 13:10 schrieb Alexandre Uster von
Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]
:
 









Good morning Robin,



Here is a reply I made to Leopold (SM#69 Yin Yang) on April
28, 2015

You might want to ask him if he had any difficulties
installing his.



I took some pictures and drawing I made at the time

http://nikimat.com/scuba_compressor_bauer_junior.html



I hope this will help you.



Sincerely, Alexandre

SM2K #289 NIKIMAT

Private Slip, Marina Puerto Bahia, Samana, Dominican
Republic



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On Thu, 4/7/16, robin.hutter@... [amelyachtowners]
wrote:



Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] installation of dive
compressor

To: amelyachtowners@...

Date: Thursday, April 7, 2016, 6:41 AM





 



















Hi gang

when I bought GrosDoux

there was no dive compressor. I intend to change that
and

buy a Lenhardt @ Wagner LW 100 E1 ECO and install it.
Could

anyone let me know how Amel installs thes compressors?
Size

and weight is comparable to a Baur Junior

ll.thanks for any

assistance!

RobinSV

Gros-Douxwww.Gros-Doux.comSM

#56