Re: ONAN FAULT BRAKER
If the code is four flashes, indicating overheating, check the impeller on the seawater pump.
Derick SM2k #400 Brava
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Re: ONAN FAULT BRAKER
luvkante
It should show an error code by flashing light on the switch.
Check and see the manual for interpretation. Martin
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ONAN FAULT BRAKER
Have problem with my Onan
It starts alright but stops after 5-10 minutes depends on how hard I load it. If I run the AC it,s stop emediatly. By reseting the falt breaker I can start again after a while. Does anyone know what can cause the problem Paul on SYKerpa #SM259
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Thank you Kent !!! Loose bolt in C-drive and broken spurrs
Merci beaucoup, Olivier! As usual you are there to guide us in in chartered waters. I/we are truly indebted to you for sharing your Amel expertise. May the wind be always on your beam. Kent
On Jul 12, 2015, at 10:05 AM, Beaute Olivier atlanticyachtsurvey@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Good afternoon Eric, Kent, Bill and all happy readers, the bolt holding the C-drive foot in the cast iron ballast is originally not locked with thread locking compound. If you put some, it may be very difficult to remove next time you need to replace the rubber bushing and washer. It is even originally mounted with grease to avoid seizing, at first tightening, because of metal dry friction (stainless steel into cast iron). When you put the bolt back in (moreover if it is a new one) put some grease on the thread and tighten with approximately 200 Nm (Newton*metre). Then degrease the head and fill the gap (between the bolt's head and the GRP) with black silicone sealant. Let harden for 2 days. Take a picture. Next time you check the foot, the silicone should not look as a "dome", otherwise this means the bolt is starting to unscrew (like on Kimberlite). Olivier On Sunday, July 12, 2015 3:12 PM, "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote: Good morning Bill,
In September 2013: Spurs Zinc B was $12 Spurs Bearing Kit B was $13 Spurs B Plugs + Screws set of 2 were $3.00 In March 2015: Reconditioning of the Spurs B was $125 Spare Spurs B Stationary cutter half with blade was $150 New Spurs B system was $475 Sincerely, Alexandre SM2K #289 NIKIMAT Grand Bahama -------------------------------------------- On Sun, 7/12/15, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote: Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Thank you Kent !!! Loose bolt in C-drive and broken spurrs To: amelyachtowners@... Date: Sunday, July 12, 2015, 12:00 AM Spurs sells what I think is an overhaul kit which contains the two halves, new plastic inserts, small bolts for the two halves, and possibly a zinc. I cannot remember the price, but I thought it was high. Bill Rouse BeBe Amel 53 #387 Sent from my tablet +39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile +1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail On Jul 12, 2015 1:26 AM, "sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote: Hi,I hauled Kimberlite today to fix some water intrusion in the C-Drive.After reading what you had done and some of Olivier’s explanation as to what was hiding under that black silicone button on the foot of the C-drive. I cur away the silicone and found the bolt in question. I was amazed to find that it was loose enough that I could turn it with my fingers. I tightened it with a 30 mm socket that I use for the prop puller.I was wondering if it can be removed and put a thread sealant on it, Also, in the past when I used a lot of silicone to close something up , It took many days to harden. Is there something special that you used to seal the bolt? When taking the spurs line cutter off the shaft I also noted that one of the two small cap screws was missing along with a piece of the spurs unit.Fair WindsEricKimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376 #yiv6516380720 #yiv6516380720 -- #yiv6516380720ygrp-mkp { border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;} #yiv6516380720 #yiv6516380720ygrp-mkp hr { border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} #yiv6516380720 #yiv6516380720ygrp-mkp #yiv6516380720hd { color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;} #yiv6516380720 #yiv6516380720ygrp-mkp #yiv6516380720ads { margin-bottom:10px;} #yiv6516380720 #yiv6516380720ygrp-mkp .yiv6516380720ad { padding:0 0;} #yiv6516380720 #yiv6516380720ygrp-mkp .yiv6516380720ad p { margin:0;} #yiv6516380720 #yiv6516380720ygrp-mkp .yiv6516380720ad a { color:#0000ff;text-decoration:none;} #yiv6516380720 #yiv6516380720ygrp-sponsor #yiv6516380720ygrp-lc { font-family:Arial;} #yiv6516380720 #yiv6516380720ygrp-sponsor #yiv6516380720ygrp-lc 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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Thank you Kent !!! Loose bolt in C-drive and broken spurrs
Olivier Beaute
Good afternoon Eric, Kent, Bill and all happy readers, the bolt holding the C-drive foot in the cast iron ballast is originally not locked with thread locking compound. If you put some, it may be very difficult to remove next time you need to replace the rubber bushing and washer. It is even originally mounted with grease to avoid seizing, at first tightening, because of metal dry friction (stainless steel into cast iron). When you put the bolt back in (moreover if it is a new one) put some grease on the thread and tighten with approximately 200 Nm (Newton*metre). Then degrease the head and fill the gap (between the bolt's head and the GRP) with black silicone sealant. Let harden for 2 days. Take a picture. Next time you check the foot, the silicone should not look as a "dome", otherwise this means the bolt is starting to unscrew (like on Kimberlite). Olivier
On Sunday, July 12, 2015 3:12 PM, "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote: Good morning Bill,
In September 2013: Spurs Zinc B was $12 Spurs Bearing Kit B was $13 Spurs B Plugs + Screws set of 2 were $3.00 In March 2015: Reconditioning of the Spurs B was $125 Spare Spurs B Stationary cutter half with blade was $150 New Spurs B system was $475 Sincerely, Alexandre SM2K #289 NIKIMAT Grand Bahama -------------------------------------------- On Sun, 7/12/15, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] wrote: Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Thank you Kent !!! Loose bolt in C-drive and broken spurrs To: amelyachtowners@... Date: Sunday, July 12, 2015, 12:00 AM Spurs sells what I think is an overhaul kit which contains the two halves, new plastic inserts, small bolts for the two halves, and possibly a zinc. I cannot remember the price, but I thought it was high. Bill Rouse BeBe Amel 53 #387 Sent from my tablet +39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile +1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail On Jul 12, 2015 1:26 AM, "sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote: Hi,I hauled Kimberlite today to fix some water intrusion in the C-Drive.After reading what you had done and some of Olivier’s explanation as to what was hiding under that black silicone button on the foot of the C-drive. I cur away the silicone and found the bolt in question. I was amazed to find that it was loose enough that I could turn it with my fingers. I tightened it with a 30 mm socket that I use for the prop puller.I was wondering if it can be removed and put a thread sealant on it, Also, in the past when I used a lot of silicone to close something up , It took many days to harden. Is there something special that you used to seal the bolt? When taking the spurs line cutter off the shaft I also noted that one of the two small cap screws was missing along with a piece of the spurs unit.Fair WindsEricKimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376 #yiv6516380720 #yiv6516380720 -- #yiv6516380720ygrp-mkp { border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;} #yiv6516380720 #yiv6516380720ygrp-mkp hr { border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} #yiv6516380720 #yiv6516380720ygrp-mkp #yiv6516380720hd { color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;} #yiv6516380720 #yiv6516380720ygrp-mkp #yiv6516380720ads { margin-bottom:10px;} #yiv6516380720 #yiv6516380720ygrp-mkp .yiv6516380720ad { padding:0 0;} #yiv6516380720 #yiv6516380720ygrp-mkp .yiv6516380720ad p { margin:0;} #yiv6516380720 #yiv6516380720ygrp-mkp .yiv6516380720ad a { color:#0000ff;text-decoration:none;} #yiv6516380720 #yiv6516380720ygrp-sponsor #yiv6516380720ygrp-lc { font-family:Arial;} #yiv6516380720 #yiv6516380720ygrp-sponsor #yiv6516380720ygrp-lc 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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Water maker
Andrew & Kate Lamb
Thanks Bill - very helpful
Andrew
Ronpische
SM 472
On 12 Jul 2015, at 15:28, 'Bill & Judy Rouse'
yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Water maker
Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
Andrew, I think that the World Health Organization has a limit of 500-600 for drinking water. My personal threshold is 350 and I have changed the membranes 3 times in 10 years. But, I think it also depends. We have been aboard full time and have depended on our water maker as the only source for all fresh water and drinking water as we have sailed around the world. I know other owners that buy bottled water for drinking. If this is what you do, then maybe you are OK. The last water I made on membranes that are 2 years old was 108 TDS. The TDS will vary up and down as much as about 20% based on two factors other than membranes: water temperature and the salinity of the sea water. I understand that the Med has a higher salt content than most other places. I hope this helps you. Bill Rouse
On Jul 12, 2015 2:33 PM, "Andrew Lamb andrew.lamb@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Thank you Kent !!! Loose bolt in C-drive and broken spurrs
Alexandre Uster von Baar
Good morning Bill,
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In September 2013: Spurs Zinc B was $12 Spurs Bearing Kit B was $13 Spurs B Plugs + Screws set of 2 were $3.00 In March 2015: Reconditioning of the Spurs B was $125 Spare Spurs B Stationary cutter half with blade was $150 New Spurs B system was $475 Sincerely, Alexandre SM2K #289 NIKIMAT Grand Bahama --------------------------------------------
On Sun, 7/12/15, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Thank you Kent !!! Loose bolt in C-drive and broken spurrs To: amelyachtowners@... Date: Sunday, July 12, 2015, 12:00 AM Spurs sells what I think is an overhaul kit which contains the two halves, new plastic inserts, small bolts for the two halves, and possibly a zinc. I cannot remember the price, but I thought it was high. Bill Rouse BeBe Amel 53 #387 Sent from my tablet +39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile +1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail On Jul 12, 2015 1:26 AM, "sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote: Hi,I hauled Kimberlite today to fix some water intrusion in the C-Drive.After reading what you had done and some of Olivier’s explanation as to what was hiding under that black silicone button on the foot of the C-drive. I cur away the silicone and found the bolt in question. I was amazed to find that it was loose enough that I could turn it with my fingers. I tightened it with a 30 mm socket that I use for the prop puller.I was wondering if it can be removed and put a thread sealant on it, Also, in the past when I used a lot of silicone to close something up , It took many days to harden. Is there something special that you used to seal the bolt? When taking the spurs line cutter off the shaft I also noted that one of the two small cap screws was missing along with a piece of the spurs unit.Fair WindsEricKimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376 #yiv6516380720 #yiv6516380720 -- #yiv6516380720ygrp-mkp { border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:10px 0;padding:0 10px;} #yiv6516380720 #yiv6516380720ygrp-mkp hr { border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} #yiv6516380720 #yiv6516380720ygrp-mkp #yiv6516380720hd { color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:700;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0;} #yiv6516380720 #yiv6516380720ygrp-mkp #yiv6516380720ads { margin-bottom:10px;} #yiv6516380720 #yiv6516380720ygrp-mkp .yiv6516380720ad { padding:0 0;} #yiv6516380720 #yiv6516380720ygrp-mkp .yiv6516380720ad p { margin:0;} #yiv6516380720 #yiv6516380720ygrp-mkp .yiv6516380720ad a { color:#0000ff;text-decoration:none;} #yiv6516380720 #yiv6516380720ygrp-sponsor #yiv6516380720ygrp-lc { font-family:Arial;} #yiv6516380720 #yiv6516380720ygrp-sponsor #yiv6516380720ygrp-lc 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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Water maker
Andrew & Kate Lamb
Hi all
Quick question - just crossing the Balearic sea to Minorca and have been checking the water maker - water tastes ok and green light is on but I recently got a TDS meter and it tells me the TDS is 1300 ppm - I think I read on this forum that the threshold
for changing the membrane is 600?
Thanks
Andrew
Ronpische
SM472
On 11 Jul 2015, at 15:11, peter killen peterkillen@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Thank you Kent !!! Loose bolt in C-drive and broken spurrs
sailormon <kimberlite@...>
Hi Bill, The overhaul kit contains 1 Zinc, 2 halves of a nylon bearing surface, a set of bumpers ,and some cap screws-“kit B’ I have the piece with one cutting blade which has a zinc mounted to it. This piece is broken where the small set screw mounts. It rides in the nylon bearing surfaces and is part of the body of the Spurrs. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 1:00 AM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Thank you Kent !!! Loose bolt in C-drive and broken spurrs
Spurs sells what I think is an overhaul kit which contains the two halves, new plastic inserts, small bolts for the two halves, and possibly a zinc. I cannot remember the price, but I thought it was high. Bill Rouse On Jul 12, 2015 1:26 AM, "sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Hi, I hauled Kimberlite today to fix some water intrusion in the C-Drive. After reading what you had done and some of Olivier’s explanation as to what was hiding under that black silicone button on the foot of the C-drive. I was wondering if it can be removed and put a thread sealant on it, Also, in the past when I used a lot of silicone to close something up , It took many days to harden. Is there something special that you used to seal the bolt?
When taking the spurs line cutter off the shaft I also noted that one of the two small cap screws was missing along with a piece of the spurs unit. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Thank you Kent !!! Loose bolt in C-drive and broken spurrs
Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
Spurs sells what I think is an overhaul kit which contains the two halves, new plastic inserts, small bolts for the two halves, and possibly a zinc. I cannot remember the price, but I thought it was high. Bill Rouse
On Jul 12, 2015 1:26 AM, "sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Trip to Long Island Sound
I put a request for crew in with OPO 3 days ago, Eric. Told Hank you suggested I contact him. I've already gotten 15 or so replies, many of whom have more offshore experience than I do. I'll be doing 2-4 day hops on the way South so hope to get several different folks aboard by the time I do the passage to Central America. Kent
On Jul 11, 2015, at 11:13 PM, sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Kent, Have you selected crew yet? If not speak to Hank at OPO and mention my name. He will give you the scoop on possible candidates for crew. I should be on Long Island in October . I usually head straight to the Caribbean about October 28. I expect to be in Colombia by November 12. Do stop at Block Island it is a lovely quiet Island. Try to go through Manhattan at night, It is beautiful. However when you approach Hells Gate, make sure you head towards Manhattan and not to the east side of Roosevelt Island- there is a 40 foot bridge on that side. Fair Winds Eric
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
My son is bringing his young family to Deltaville for a little sailing on the Chesapeake from the 17th til the 23rd. Will leave shortly after that and go straight to Cape Cod. I've got a couple guys from OPO to help do that 3-4 day sail. Will cruise that area until the first week of Sept then start hopping South thru Newport, Long Island Sound to NYC by early Oct. then down to Brunswick or Fernandina befor the first of Nov. after Christmas will go to Turks and Caicos, then Key West, ?Cuba, and New Orleans (sister and nieces live there). Passage from there to Central America end of May. Where are you going to be? Hope we can meet somewhere. Kent
Kent, Thanks! I will check it tomorrow. When do you think you will be heading up this way? Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
I can't surf the net right now, Eric. I'll find it tomorrow. The hole in the lower CDrive (what I'm calling the Foot) where the bolt goes through is about 8 cm in diameter. The bolt goes through a stainless sleeve (thin, less than a mm thick with a collar at the top). Between the sleeve and the foot are two pieces of rubber hose, one inside the other, that fit snugly around the sleeve and snugly into the hole through the foot. They absorb any shock when the drive is put in gear, and vibration when running. If you can wiggle the foot back and forth when the bolt is in place, those rubber bushings are worn and should be replaced. The Foot should be immobile when bolted to the keel.
There is a rubber washer between the bottom of the foot and the keel that I guess should keep water out of the threads, but I'm skeptical that it's tight enough to do the job. I don't really see what good the sealant does on top of the bolt, since it is going through the sleeve and is also "protected" from below by the iffy rubber washer. Like I said, on Kristy there was no sealant on top of the bolt and it looked like new. I don't know what kind of thread protector was used before, but the bolt held firmly and came out without too much difficulty. I'll see if I can find it, but I think the instructions from Amel said NOT to use a thread lock. More tomorrow. Kent SM243 Kristy Currently Deltaville VA
Kent, My C-Drive bolt was sealed with a rubbery substance and was slightly domed at the top , I always thought it was a rubber cap for something. I do not understand what you are speaking about with respect to the bushings. Could you Please direct me to a drawing of the drive. I know it is somewhere on our site. Fair Winds Eric
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Hi Eric, There wasn't anything sealing the top of the bolt on Kristy. It was exposed and looked to be in fine shape. Makes me wonder if the CDrive had been removed before I bought her. I put some waterproof grease (lanocote) on the threads before bolting it back down. Since I'm on the hard again, I'll be interested to hear what Olivier says about sealing it.
Are you able to wiggle the lower drive side to side at all? If so you may need new rubber bushings that go between the stainless sleeve and the "foot". There are two pieces of rubber hose (one big enough to fit snugly over the other) that go into the hole in the foot. The steel sleeve goes inside the smaller hose, and the bolt goes through the sleeve.
Kent SM 243 Kristy
Hi, I hauled Kimberlite today to fix some water intrusion in the C-Drive. After reading what you had done and some of Olivier’s explanation as to what was hiding under that black silicone button on the foot of the C-drive. I was wondering if it can be removed and put a thread sealant on it, Also, in the past when I used a lot of silicone to close something up , It took many days to harden. Is there something special that you used to seal the bolt?
When taking the spurs line cutter off the shaft I also noted that one of the two small cap screws was missing along with a piece of the spurs unit. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] C-Drive drain .
Great idea Eric! Kent
On Jul 11, 2015, at 10:52 PM, sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Does anyone know what the thread is on the C-drive drain? I would like to make a thin wall pipe with that thread to get most of the oil away from the keel. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
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Trip to Long Island Sound
sailormon <kimberlite@...>
Kent, Have you selected crew yet? If not speak to Hank at OPO and mention my name. He will give you the scoop on possible candidates for crew. I should be on Long Island in October . I usually head straight to the Caribbean about October 28. I expect to be in Colombia by November 12. Do stop at Block Island it is a lovely quiet Island. Try to go through Manhattan at night, It is beautiful. However when you approach Hells Gate, make sure you head towards Manhattan and not to the east side of Roosevelt Island- there is a 40 foot bridge on that side. Fair Winds Eric
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 11:04 PM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Thank you Kent !!! Loose bolt in C-drive and broken spurrs
My son is bringing his young family to Deltaville for a little sailing on the Chesapeake from the 17th til the 23rd. Will leave shortly after that and go straight to Cape Cod. I've got a couple guys from OPO to help do that 3-4 day sail. Will cruise that area until the first week of Sept then start hopping South thru Newport, Long Island Sound to NYC by early Oct. then down to Brunswick or Fernandina befor the first of Nov. after Christmas will go to Turks and Caicos, then Key West, ?Cuba, and New Orleans (sister and nieces live there). Passage from there to Central America end of May. Where are you going to be? Hope we can meet somewhere. Kent
Kent, Thanks! I will check it tomorrow. When do you think you will be heading up this way? Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
I can't surf the net right now, Eric. I'll find it tomorrow. The hole in the lower CDrive (what I'm calling the Foot) where the bolt goes through is about 8 cm in diameter. The bolt goes through a stainless sleeve (thin, less than a mm thick with a collar at the top). Between the sleeve and the foot are two pieces of rubber hose, one inside the other, that fit snugly around the sleeve and snugly into the hole through the foot. They absorb any shock when the drive is put in gear, and vibration when running. If you can wiggle the foot back and forth when the bolt is in place, those rubber bushings are worn and should be replaced. The Foot should be immobile when bolted to the keel.
There is a rubber washer between the bottom of the foot and the keel that I guess should keep water out of the threads, but I'm skeptical that it's tight enough to do the job. I don't really see what good the sealant does on top of the bolt, since it is going through the sleeve and is also "protected" from below by the iffy rubber washer. Like I said, on Kristy there was no sealant on top of the bolt and it looked like new. I don't know what kind of thread protector was used before, but the bolt held firmly and came out without too much difficulty. I'll see if I can find it, but I think the instructions from Amel said NOT to use a thread lock. More tomorrow. Kent SM243 Kristy Currently Deltaville VA
Kent, My C-Drive bolt was sealed with a rubbery substance and was slightly domed at the top , I always thought it was a rubber cap for something. I do not understand what you are speaking about with respect to the bushings. Could you Please direct me to a drawing of the drive. I know it is somewhere on our site. Fair Winds Eric
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Hi Eric, There wasn't anything sealing the top of the bolt on Kristy. It was exposed and looked to be in fine shape. Makes me wonder if the CDrive had been removed before I bought her. I put some waterproof grease (lanocote) on the threads before bolting it back down. Since I'm on the hard again, I'll be interested to hear what Olivier says about sealing it.
Are you able to wiggle the lower drive side to side at all? If so you may need new rubber bushings that go between the stainless sleeve and the "foot". There are two pieces of rubber hose (one big enough to fit snugly over the other) that go into the hole in the foot. The steel sleeve goes inside the smaller hose, and the bolt goes through the sleeve.
Kent SM 243 Kristy
Hi, I hauled Kimberlite today to fix some water intrusion in the C-Drive. After reading what you had done and some of Olivier’s explanation as to what was hiding under that black silicone button on the foot of the C-drive. I was wondering if it can be removed and put a thread sealant on it, Also, in the past when I used a lot of silicone to close something up , It took many days to harden. Is there something special that you used to seal the bolt?
When taking the spurs line cutter off the shaft I also noted that one of the two small cap screws was missing along with a piece of the spurs unit. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Thank you Kent !!! Loose bolt in C-drive and broken spurrs
My son is bringing his young family to Deltaville for a little sailing on the Chesapeake from the 17th til the 23rd. Will leave shortly after that and go straight to Cape Cod. I've got a couple guys from OPO to help do that 3-4 day sail. Will cruise that area until the first week of Sept then start hopping South thru Newport, Long Island Sound to NYC by early Oct. then down to Brunswick or Fernandina befor the first of Nov. after Christmas will go to Turks and Caicos, then Key West, ?Cuba, and New Orleans (sister and nieces live there). Passage from there to Central America end of May. Where are you going to be? Hope we can meet somewhere. Kent
On Jul 11, 2015, at 8:50 PM, sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Kent, Thanks! I will check it tomorrow. When do you think you will be heading up this way? Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
I can't surf the net right now, Eric. I'll find it tomorrow. The hole in the lower CDrive (what I'm calling the Foot) where the bolt goes through is about 8 cm in diameter. The bolt goes through a stainless sleeve (thin, less than a mm thick with a collar at the top). Between the sleeve and the foot are two pieces of rubber hose, one inside the other, that fit snugly around the sleeve and snugly into the hole through the foot. They absorb any shock when the drive is put in gear, and vibration when running. If you can wiggle the foot back and forth when the bolt is in place, those rubber bushings are worn and should be replaced. The Foot should be immobile when bolted to the keel.
There is a rubber washer between the bottom of the foot and the keel that I guess should keep water out of the threads, but I'm skeptical that it's tight enough to do the job. I don't really see what good the sealant does on top of the bolt, since it is going through the sleeve and is also "protected" from below by the iffy rubber washer. Like I said, on Kristy there was no sealant on top of the bolt and it looked like new. I don't know what kind of thread protector was used before, but the bolt held firmly and came out without too much difficulty. I'll see if I can find it, but I think the instructions from Amel said NOT to use a thread lock. More tomorrow. Kent SM243 Kristy Currently Deltaville VA
Kent, My C-Drive bolt was sealed with a rubbery substance and was slightly domed at the top , I always thought it was a rubber cap for something. I do not understand what you are speaking about with respect to the bushings. Could you Please direct me to a drawing of the drive. I know it is somewhere on our site. Fair Winds Eric
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Hi Eric, There wasn't anything sealing the top of the bolt on Kristy. It was exposed and looked to be in fine shape. Makes me wonder if the CDrive had been removed before I bought her. I put some waterproof grease (lanocote) on the threads before bolting it back down. Since I'm on the hard again, I'll be interested to hear what Olivier says about sealing it.
Are you able to wiggle the lower drive side to side at all? If so you may need new rubber bushings that go between the stainless sleeve and the "foot". There are two pieces of rubber hose (one big enough to fit snugly over the other) that go into the hole in the foot. The steel sleeve goes inside the smaller hose, and the bolt goes through the sleeve.
Kent SM 243 Kristy
Hi, I hauled Kimberlite today to fix some water intrusion in the C-Drive. After reading what you had done and some of Olivier’s explanation as to what was hiding under that black silicone button on the foot of the C-drive. I was wondering if it can be removed and put a thread sealant on it, Also, in the past when I used a lot of silicone to close something up , It took many days to harden. Is there something special that you used to seal the bolt?
When taking the spurs line cutter off the shaft I also noted that one of the two small cap screws was missing along with a piece of the spurs unit. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
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C-Drive drain .
sailormon <kimberlite@...>
Does anyone know what the thread is on the C-drive drain? I would like to make a thin wall pipe with that thread to get most of the oil away from the keel. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Thank you Kent !!! Loose bolt in C-drive and broken spurrs
sailormon <kimberlite@...>
Kent, Thanks! I will check it tomorrow. When do you think you will be heading up this way? Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 8:48 PM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Thank you Kent !!! Loose bolt in C-drive and broken spurrs
I can't surf the net right now, Eric. I'll find it tomorrow. The hole in the lower CDrive (what I'm calling the Foot) where the bolt goes through is about 8 cm in diameter. The bolt goes through a stainless sleeve (thin, less than a mm thick with a collar at the top). Between the sleeve and the foot are two pieces of rubber hose, one inside the other, that fit snugly around the sleeve and snugly into the hole through the foot. They absorb any shock when the drive is put in gear, and vibration when running. If you can wiggle the foot back and forth when the bolt is in place, those rubber bushings are worn and should be replaced. The Foot should be immobile when bolted to the keel.
There is a rubber washer between the bottom of the foot and the keel that I guess should keep water out of the threads, but I'm skeptical that it's tight enough to do the job. I don't really see what good the sealant does on top of the bolt, since it is going through the sleeve and is also "protected" from below by the iffy rubber washer. Like I said, on Kristy there was no sealant on top of the bolt and it looked like new. I don't know what kind of thread protector was used before, but the bolt held firmly and came out without too much difficulty. I'll see if I can find it, but I think the instructions from Amel said NOT to use a thread lock. More tomorrow. Kent SM243 Kristy Currently Deltaville VA
Kent, My C-Drive bolt was sealed with a rubbery substance and was slightly domed at the top , I always thought it was a rubber cap for something. I do not understand what you are speaking about with respect to the bushings. Could you Please direct me to a drawing of the drive. I know it is somewhere on our site. Fair Winds Eric
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Hi Eric, There wasn't anything sealing the top of the bolt on Kristy. It was exposed and looked to be in fine shape. Makes me wonder if the CDrive had been removed before I bought her. I put some waterproof grease (lanocote) on the threads before bolting it back down. Since I'm on the hard again, I'll be interested to hear what Olivier says about sealing it.
Are you able to wiggle the lower drive side to side at all? If so you may need new rubber bushings that go between the stainless sleeve and the "foot". There are two pieces of rubber hose (one big enough to fit snugly over the other) that go into the hole in the foot. The steel sleeve goes inside the smaller hose, and the bolt goes through the sleeve.
Kent SM 243 Kristy
Hi, I hauled Kimberlite today to fix some water intrusion in the C-Drive. After reading what you had done and some of Olivier’s explanation as to what was hiding under that black silicone button on the foot of the C-drive. I was wondering if it can be removed and put a thread sealant on it, Also, in the past when I used a lot of silicone to close something up , It took many days to harden. Is there something special that you used to seal the bolt?
When taking the spurs line cutter off the shaft I also noted that one of the two small cap screws was missing along with a piece of the spurs unit. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Thank you Kent !!! Loose bolt in C-drive and broken spurrs
I can't surf the net right now, Eric. I'll find it tomorrow. The hole in the lower CDrive (what I'm calling the Foot) where the bolt goes through is about 8 cm in diameter. The bolt goes through a stainless sleeve (thin, less than a mm thick with a collar at the top). Between the sleeve and the foot are two pieces of rubber hose, one inside the other, that fit snugly around the sleeve and snugly into the hole through the foot. They absorb any shock when the drive is put in gear, and vibration when running. If you can wiggle the foot back and forth when the bolt is in place, those rubber bushings are worn and should be replaced. The Foot should be immobile when bolted to the keel. There is a rubber washer between the bottom of the foot and the keel that I guess should keep water out of the threads, but I'm skeptical that it's tight enough to do the job. I don't really see what good the sealant does on top of the bolt, since it is going through the sleeve and is also "protected" from below by the iffy rubber washer. Like I said, on Kristy there was no sealant on top of the bolt and it looked like new. I don't know what kind of thread protector was used before, but the bolt held firmly and came out without too much difficulty. I'll see if I can find it, but I think the instructions from Amel said NOT to use a thread lock. More tomorrow. Kent SM243 Kristy Currently Deltaville VA
On Jul 11, 2015, at 8:10 PM, sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Kent, My C-Drive bolt was sealed with a rubbery substance and was slightly domed at the top , I always thought it was a rubber cap for something. I do not understand what you are speaking about with respect to the bushings. Could you Please direct me to a drawing of the drive. I know it is somewhere on our site. Fair Winds Eric
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Hi Eric, There wasn't anything sealing the top of the bolt on Kristy. It was exposed and looked to be in fine shape. Makes me wonder if the CDrive had been removed before I bought her. I put some waterproof grease (lanocote) on the threads before bolting it back down. Since I'm on the hard again, I'll be interested to hear what Olivier says about sealing it.
Are you able to wiggle the lower drive side to side at all? If so you may need new rubber bushings that go between the stainless sleeve and the "foot". There are two pieces of rubber hose (one big enough to fit snugly over the other) that go into the hole in the foot. The steel sleeve goes inside the smaller hose, and the bolt goes through the sleeve.
Kent SM 243 Kristy
Hi, I hauled Kimberlite today to fix some water intrusion in the C-Drive. After reading what you had done and some of Olivier’s explanation as to what was hiding under that black silicone button on the foot of the C-drive. I was wondering if it can be removed and put a thread sealant on it, Also, in the past when I used a lot of silicone to close something up , It took many days to harden. Is there something special that you used to seal the bolt?
When taking the spurs line cutter off the shaft I also noted that one of the two small cap screws was missing along with a piece of the spurs unit. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Thank you Kent !!! Loose bolt in C-drive and broken spurrs
sailormon <kimberlite@...>
Kent, My C-Drive bolt was sealed with a rubbery substance and was slightly domed at the top , I always thought it was a rubber cap for something. I do not understand what you are speaking about with respect to the bushings. Could you Please direct me to a drawing of the drive. I know it is somewhere on our site. Fair Winds Eric
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 7:59 PM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Thank you Kent !!! Loose bolt in C-drive and broken spurrs
Hi Eric, There wasn't anything sealing the top of the bolt on Kristy. It was exposed and looked to be in fine shape. Makes me wonder if the CDrive had been removed before I bought her. I put some waterproof grease (lanocote) on the threads before bolting it back down. Since I'm on the hard again, I'll be interested to hear what Olivier says about sealing it.
Are you able to wiggle the lower drive side to side at all? If so you may need new rubber bushings that go between the stainless sleeve and the "foot". There are two pieces of rubber hose (one big enough to fit snugly over the other) that go into the hole in the foot. The steel sleeve goes inside the smaller hose, and the bolt goes through the sleeve.
Kent SM 243 Kristy
Hi, I hauled Kimberlite today to fix some water intrusion in the C-Drive. After reading what you had done and some of Olivier’s explanation as to what was hiding under that black silicone button on the foot of the C-drive. I was wondering if it can be removed and put a thread sealant on it, Also, in the past when I used a lot of silicone to close something up , It took many days to harden. Is there something special that you used to seal the bolt?
When taking the spurs line cutter off the shaft I also noted that one of the two small cap screws was missing along with a piece of the spurs unit. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Thank you Kent !!! Loose bolt in C-drive and broken spurrs
Hi Eric, There wasn't anything sealing the top of the bolt on Kristy. It was exposed and looked to be in fine shape. Makes me wonder if the CDrive had been removed before I bought her. I put some waterproof grease (lanocote) on the threads before bolting it back down. Since I'm on the hard again, I'll be interested to hear what Olivier says about sealing it. Are you able to wiggle the lower drive side to side at all? If so you may need new rubber bushings that go between the stainless sleeve and the "foot". There are two pieces of rubber hose (one big enough to fit snugly over the other) that go into the hole in the foot. The steel sleeve goes inside the smaller hose, and the bolt goes through the sleeve. Kent SM 243 Kristy
On Jul 11, 2015, at 7:25 PM, sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Hi, I hauled Kimberlite today to fix some water intrusion in the C-Drive. After reading what you had done and some of Olivier’s explanation as to what was hiding under that black silicone button on the foot of the C-drive. I was wondering if it can be removed and put a thread sealant on it, Also, in the past when I used a lot of silicone to close something up , It took many days to harden. Is there something special that you used to seal the bolt?
When taking the spurs line cutter off the shaft I also noted that one of the two small cap screws was missing along with a piece of the spurs unit. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
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