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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow thruster lip seals

Mark Erdos
 

Thanks! Very timely on this. We hauled Cream Puff today and will be doing the prop, Amel drive and bow thruster this week.

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Super Maramu 2000

Hull #275

www.creampuff.us

Currently cruising:  Chesapeake Bay – On the hard in Solomon

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:50 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow thruster lip seals

 

 

Mark,

Yes,

I think using RTV on the propeller shaft seal improved the water tightness. Blue or Clear works. 

I guess that I should update the instructions in the files section.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On Aug 31, 2015 1:54 PM, "'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Bill,

I am a little confused (very normal for me). Are you saying to use blue RTV on the lower oil seal behind the prop? I was aware that RTV should be used on the upper 80mm lip seal inside the locker, but not the lower lip seal.

With best regards,

Mark

Super Maramu 2000

Hull #275

www.creampuff.us

Currently cruising: Chesapeake Bay - Solomon

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 4:31 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...; Alan Leslie
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow thruster lip seals

Alan,

Amel sent the following seal for the bow thruster shaft:
Paulstra
792521
IEL 30. 42. 7.
MI 1 VY

When installing it, use some RTV on the outside edge of the seal and make
sure that it is pressed all the way in. The space for the seal is about 9mm
deep and the seal is 7mm thick.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail
On Aug 31, 2015 9:52 AM, "divanz620@... [amelyachtowners]" <
amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

>
>
> Can anyone tell me please the specification for the lip seals on the
> propeller shaft in the foot of the bow thruster on a Super Maramu 2000 ?
>
> I've searched the messages but I can seem to find it.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Alan
>
> Elyse SM437
>
>

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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow thruster lip seals

karkauai
 

I'm anchored on the main channel just S of Goat Island, across from the 120 ft Ketch.
828-234-6819 mobile or text
Kent


On Aug 31, 2015, at 3:51 PM, Richard03801 richard03801@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Kent where are you in Newport? 

Fair Winds Smooth Sailing To All
Capt Richard 
RP Yacht Brokerage
Newport RI 
We list sell and service fine yachts including Amel's
Cell 603 767 5330

On Aug 31, 2015, at 10:12, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I also think it helps to pack the seals with grease.
Kent
SM243
Kristy
Currently Newport RI


On Aug 31, 2015, at 9:49 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Mark,

Yes,

I think using RTV on the propeller shaft seal improved the water tightness. Blue or Clear works. 

I guess that I should update the instructions in the files section.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On Aug 31, 2015 1:54 PM, "'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Bill,

I am a little confused (very normal for me). Are you saying to use blue RTV on the lower oil seal behind the prop? I was aware that RTV should be used on the upper 80mm lip seal inside the locker, but not the lower lip seal.

With best regards,

Mark

Super Maramu 2000

Hull #275

www.creampuff.us

Currently cruising: Chesapeake Bay - Solomon

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 4:31 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...; Alan Leslie
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow thruster lip seals

Alan,

Amel sent the following seal for the bow thruster shaft:
Paulstra
792521
IEL 30. 42. 7.
MI 1 VY

When installing it, use some RTV on the outside edge of the seal and make
sure that it is pressed all the way in. The space for the seal is about 9mm
deep and the seal is 7mm thick.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail
On Aug 31, 2015 9:52 AM, "divanz620@... [amelyachtowners]" <
amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

>
>
> Can anyone tell me please the specification for the lip seals on the
> propeller shaft in the foot of the bow thruster on a Super Maramu 2000 ?
>
> I've searched the messages but I can seem to find it.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Alan
>
> Elyse SM437
>
>

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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow thruster lip seals

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

Kent where are you in Newport? 

Fair Winds Smooth Sailing To All
Capt Richard 
RP Yacht Brokerage
Newport RI 
We list sell and service fine yachts including Amel's
Cell 603 767 5330

On Aug 31, 2015, at 10:12, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I also think it helps to pack the seals with grease.
Kent
SM243
Kristy
Currently Newport RI


On Aug 31, 2015, at 9:49 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Mark,

Yes,

I think using RTV on the propeller shaft seal improved the water tightness. Blue or Clear works. 

I guess that I should update the instructions in the files section.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On Aug 31, 2015 1:54 PM, "'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Bill,

I am a little confused (very normal for me). Are you saying to use blue RTV on the lower oil seal behind the prop? I was aware that RTV should be used on the upper 80mm lip seal inside the locker, but not the lower lip seal.

With best regards,

Mark

Super Maramu 2000

Hull #275

www.creampuff.us

Currently cruising: Chesapeake Bay - Solomon

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 4:31 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...; Alan Leslie
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow thruster lip seals

Alan,

Amel sent the following seal for the bow thruster shaft:
Paulstra
792521
IEL 30. 42. 7.
MI 1 VY

When installing it, use some RTV on the outside edge of the seal and make
sure that it is pressed all the way in. The space for the seal is about 9mm
deep and the seal is 7mm thick.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail
On Aug 31, 2015 9:52 AM, "divanz620@... [amelyachtowners]" <
amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

>
>
> Can anyone tell me please the specification for the lip seals on the
> propeller shaft in the foot of the bow thruster on a Super Maramu 2000 ?
>
> I've searched the messages but I can seem to find it.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Alan
>
> Elyse SM437
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow thruster lip seals

karkauai
 

I also think it helps to pack the seals with grease.
Kent
SM243
Kristy
Currently Newport RI


On Aug 31, 2015, at 9:49 AM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Mark,

Yes,

I think using RTV on the propeller shaft seal improved the water tightness. Blue or Clear works. 

I guess that I should update the instructions in the files section.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On Aug 31, 2015 1:54 PM, "'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Bill,

I am a little confused (very normal for me). Are you saying to use blue RTV on the lower oil seal behind the prop? I was aware that RTV should be used on the upper 80mm lip seal inside the locker, but not the lower lip seal.

With best regards,

Mark

Super Maramu 2000

Hull #275

www.creampuff.us

Currently cruising: Chesapeake Bay - Solomon

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 4:31 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...; Alan Leslie
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow thruster lip seals

Alan,

Amel sent the following seal for the bow thruster shaft:
Paulstra
792521
IEL 30. 42. 7.
MI 1 VY

When installing it, use some RTV on the outside edge of the seal and make
sure that it is pressed all the way in. The space for the seal is about 9mm
deep and the seal is 7mm thick.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail
On Aug 31, 2015 9:52 AM, "divanz620@... [amelyachtowners]" <
amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

>
>
> Can anyone tell me please the specification for the lip seals on the
> propeller shaft in the foot of the bow thruster on a Super Maramu 2000 ?
>
> I've searched the messages but I can seem to find it.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Alan
>
> Elyse SM437
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow thruster lip seals

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Mark,

Yes,

I think using RTV on the propeller shaft seal improved the water tightness. Blue or Clear works. 

I guess that I should update the instructions in the files section.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On Aug 31, 2015 1:54 PM, "'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Bill,

I am a little confused (very normal for me). Are you saying to use blue RTV on the lower oil seal behind the prop? I was aware that RTV should be used on the upper 80mm lip seal inside the locker, but not the lower lip seal.

With best regards,

Mark

Super Maramu 2000

Hull #275

www.creampuff.us

Currently cruising: Chesapeake Bay - Solomon

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 4:31 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...; Alan Leslie
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow thruster lip seals

Alan,

Amel sent the following seal for the bow thruster shaft:
Paulstra
792521
IEL 30. 42. 7.
MI 1 VY

When installing it, use some RTV on the outside edge of the seal and make
sure that it is pressed all the way in. The space for the seal is about 9mm
deep and the seal is 7mm thick.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail
On Aug 31, 2015 9:52 AM, "divanz620@... [amelyachtowners]" <
amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

>
>
> Can anyone tell me please the specification for the lip seals on the
> propeller shaft in the foot of the bow thruster on a Super Maramu 2000 ?
>
> I've searched the messages but I can seem to find it.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Alan
>
> Elyse SM437
>
>

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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow thruster lip seals

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning Mark,

Yes it should otherwise oil will leak from the bow thruster unit (at least it did in my case).
http://nikimat.com/bow_thruster_overhaul/bow_thruster_overhaul_62.jpg
Complete file on:
http://nikimat.com/bow_thruster_overhaul.html

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Taino Beach / Flamingo Marina, Grand Bahama.


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On Mon, 8/31/15, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow thruster lip seals
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Monday, August 31, 2015, 6:54 AM


 









Bill,



I am a little confused (very normal for me). Are you saying
to use blue RTV on the lower oil seal behind the prop? I was
aware that RTV should be used on the upper 80mm lip seal
inside the locker, but not the lower lip seal.



With best regards,



Mark



Super Maramu 2000



Hull #275



www.creampuff.us



Currently cruising: Chesapeake Bay - Solomon



From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...]

Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 4:31 AM

To: amelyachtowners@...; Alan Leslie

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow thruster lip seals



Alan,



Amel sent the following seal for the bow thruster shaft:

Paulstra

792521

IEL 30. 42. 7.

MI 1 VY



When installing it, use some RTV on the outside edge of the
seal and make

sure that it is pressed all the way in. The space for the
seal is about 9mm

deep and the seal is 7mm thick.



Bill Rouse

BeBe Amel 53 #387

Sent from my tablet

+39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile

+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On Aug 31, 2015 9:52 AM, "divanz620@...
[amelyachtowners]" <

amelyachtowners@...> wrote:



>

>

> Can anyone tell me please the specification for the lip
seals on the

> propeller shaft in the foot of the bow thruster on a
Super Maramu 2000 ?

>

> I've searched the messages but I can seem to find
it.

>

> Thanks in advance

>

> Alan

>

> Elyse SM437

>

>



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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow thruster lip seals

Mark Erdos
 

Bill,



I am a little confused (very normal for me). Are you saying to use blue RTV on the lower oil seal behind the prop? I was aware that RTV should be used on the upper 80mm lip seal inside the locker, but not the lower lip seal.







With best regards,



Mark



Super Maramu 2000

Hull #275

www.creampuff.us

Currently cruising: Chesapeake Bay - Solomon



From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 4:31 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...; Alan Leslie
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow thruster lip seals





Alan,

Amel sent the following seal for the bow thruster shaft:
Paulstra
792521
IEL 30. 42. 7.
MI 1 VY

When installing it, use some RTV on the outside edge of the seal and make
sure that it is pressed all the way in. The space for the seal is about 9mm
deep and the seal is 7mm thick.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail
On Aug 31, 2015 9:52 AM, "divanz620@... [amelyachtowners]" <
amelyachtowners@...> wrote:



Can anyone tell me please the specification for the lip seals on the
propeller shaft in the foot of the bow thruster on a Super Maramu 2000 ?

I've searched the messages but I can seem to find it.

Thanks in advance

Alan

Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow thruster lip seals

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Alan,

Amel sent the following seal for the bow thruster shaft:
Paulstra
792521
IEL 30. 42. 7.
MI 1 VY

When installing it, use some RTV on the outside edge of the seal and make
sure that it is pressed all the way in. The space for the seal is about 9mm
deep and the seal is 7mm thick.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail
On Aug 31, 2015 9:52 AM, "divanz620@... [amelyachtowners]" <
amelyachtowners@...> wrote:



Can anyone tell me please the specification for the lip seals on the
propeller shaft in the foot of the bow thruster on a Super Maramu 2000 ?

I've searched the messages but I can seem to find it.

Thanks in advance

Alan

Elyse SM437


Bow thruster lip seals

Alan Leslie
 

Can anyone tell me please the specification for the lip seals on the propeller shaft in the foot of the bow thruster on a Super Maramu 2000 ?

I've searched the messages but I can seem to find it.

Thanks in advance

Alan

Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Mizzen Mast wiring conduit and channels

sailormon <kimberlite@...>
 

Bill,

My loud hailer was mounted on the starboard side of Kimberlite just above the spreader.

It is mounted facing down towards the deck.

There are pulls mounted on the top of the mizen that you can catch an use to pull the wire to the inspection port on the port side of the mizzen. There is a lip inside this that allows for drip loop. You will also find your radar cable there.

 

I use the interior of an used Teleflex cable for a small boat as a snake. It is stainless and has been with me for 20 years.

The mast feeds into the starboard side of the aft head.

From there is a board above the passageway door that allows the wire to go into the headliner over the midships cabin. On the forward side of the mid-cabin there is a removable panel that gets you into the nav station.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 9:34 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Mizzen Mast wiring conduit and channels

 

 

I have a whistle/hailer/fog horn that I want to mount under the radar. I have the bracket to mount it. I am hoping to save some time by learning from others that have done this on a Super Maramu. I have looked inside the inspection Port on the port side near the bottom of the mast. I have also looked inside the access panel on the right side of the mirror in the aft head. H

 

ow did you run the cablecable inside the mizzen mast from the radar to the opening in the aft head?

 

Any advice will be appreciated.

 

Bill

BeBe 387

Currently Barcelona, Spain


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Correction on Propane tank capacity in the lazarette

sailormon <kimberlite@...>
 

I have a 10 and 20 # tank on kimberlite with a USA regulator.

I drilled out the jets on the stove and oven as the oven in particular was not getting as hot as it did on the blue bottle gas. It was a drill number 65 if I remember correctly. This has to be done with a pin vise by hand.

 

I also found it the marine plumbing store in La Rochelle in the marina where Amel keeps their boats an amazing find. It is a kit of 4 adapters that adapts almost any tank to any other supply.

The store was impressive as it only carried marine plumbing items.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

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From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 9:22 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Correction on Propane tank capacity in the lazarette

 

 

BeBe has USA tanks... one 10# and one 20#. .both are aluminum tanks.

And, we also have an EU blue GAZ tank.

Only 2 of the 3 tanks fit in the compartment. In our west around circumnavigation beginning at St. Thomes USVI, we were able to fill our American tanks until we arrived in Greece. I bought the EU GAZ tank in Greece, and refilled it in all countries in EU so far...in Barcelona, Spain now.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
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+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On Aug 30, 2015 3:13 PM, "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 


Good morning,

A little while ago, I believe saying I have two 20 Lbs propane tank in the lazarette storage.
I just refilled one and in fact it is a 10 lbs.
So like S/V Bebe, I have two 10 Lbs...

Sorry for the mistake and potential misleading.
http://nikimat.com/propane_tank_storage.html

Sincerely, Alexandre

SM2K NIKIMAT
Flamingo Marina, Grand Bahama


Re: Furuno VHF FM2721

Gaffney, Drew <drew.gaffney@...>
 

Thank you for the information.  Furuno-Sweden put me in contact with a shop that does repairs and they've looking into whether it's fixable or not.  I already have a separate AIS with GPS antenna, so I'm looking for a behind-the-panel unit with a remote controller/mic, with DSC.  It looks like the iCom M400BB will work nicely and has the needed features.
Anyone have one of these iCom's?
Drew Gaffney
SY Revelation SM390


Re: Mizzen Mast wiring conduit and channels

Alan Leslie
 

Hi Bill, when I installed my SSB antenna wire from the main backstay, I drilled a hole in the mizzen mast for the wire and pushed it down the mizzen mast. There's a removable panel on the port side so you can pull a cable down. Then remove the panel in aft head by the mirror, pushed piece of coat hanger wire from the mast access down and out beside the mirror, tied the wire to it and pulled it through.....

Hope this helps
Cheers
Alan


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Furuno VHF FM2721

Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
 

Hello Graham,

I have precisely the SH 2200E; the E suffix indicates conformity to the Euro standards.

Two days ago, I reviewed my SH booklet: in the 2200E, the FOG function is not available.  The USA/Canada version has the FOG function available if it is installed in conjunction with a SH PA.

Regarding your specific question about the internal GPS, it is absolutely reliable installed at the NAV table.

Remember, if Euro based, you need a special DSC course before you can legally operate a DSC VHF.  I don’t know about other jurisdictions.

GL


Jean-Pierre Germain
SY Eleuthera, SM 007.



On 30 Aug 2015, at 10:00, Graham Cresswell grahamjcresswell@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Jean Pierre,

With your GX2200, is the built in GPS sufficiently sensitive to get a fix if the radio is installed below at the nav station or did you have to connect a separate GPS with an external aerial?

Graham Cresswell
SY Jamesby
M240

On 27/08/2015 05:05, Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:
 

Hi Drew,


I went or The Standard Horizon 2200.  DSC with incorporated AIS and the ability to buy an optional remote for the cockpit.

2 features I like are the PA function which allows verbal comms with deck crew and the FOG horn which emits a selectable signal based on the conditions of the moment.

GL with your installation.


Jean-Pierre Germain,
SY Eleuthera, SM 007



On 27 Aug 2015, at 05:59, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Drew,
I replaced mine 7 years ago with the iCOM IC-M604 marine VHF and added a remote mic at the helm.  I mounted it sideways where the old VHF was mounted.  It's one of the earlier digital calling ones, but I haven't found a need for that feature.  I have heard the SCREECH it puts out a couple times when someone puts out an emergency TX...it's enough to wake the dead, and it gives you their GPS coordinates.  If I ever wanted to get another boat's attention, there's no way they could ignore that alarm.
The radio's been flawless.

Kent
SM243
Kristy


On Aug 26, 2015, at 6:34 PM, 'Gaffney, Drew' drew.gaffney@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Our original VHF stopped working. After turning on, it says:
Now Init EROM
Erase 0700
ID Data Write
Completed
Power Off.

Furuno USA says it's a foreign product and they know nothing about it. Furuno UK thought it might need the EPROM re-flashed, but didn't do it any longer.
Has any seen this message or know what it means?
What have members used to replace this unit? A "black-box and a remote handset would be nice if available.
Thanks,
Drew
SM390, Lying Rebel Marina, Norfolk VA








Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Mizzen Mast wiring conduit and channels

Andrew & Kate Lamb
 

Bill

On our boat there are a couple of strings that run down the length of the mast from top to the bottom on the port side to behind the inspection window - and possibly through to the area to the right of the mirror - not sure about this last statement but I am sure it was not hard to get a wire through from this area to behind the inspection area. These strings can be hooked from the hole in the mast on the port side at the radar level, therefore allowing a wire to be pulled through. I ran a wire for a 4g arntenna via this route.

Andrew
Ronpische
SM472


On 30 Aug 2015, at 14:34, yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I have a whistle/hailer/fog horn that I want to mount under the radar. I have the bracket to mount it. I am hoping to save some time by learning from others that have done this on a Super Maramu. I have looked inside the inspection Port on the port side near the bottom of the mast. I have also looked inside the access panel on the right side of the mirror in the aft head. H


ow did you run the cablecable inside the mizzen mast from the radar to the opening in the aft head?


Any advice will be appreciated.


Bill

BeBe 387

Currently Barcelona, Spain


Mizzen Mast wiring conduit and channels

yahoogroups@...
 

I have a whistle/hailer/fog horn that I want to mount under the radar. I have the bracket to mount it. I am hoping to save some time by learning from others that have done this on a Super Maramu. I have looked inside the inspection Port on the port side near the bottom of the mast. I have also looked inside the access panel on the right side of the mirror in the aft head. H


ow did you run the cablecable inside the mizzen mast from the radar to the opening in the aft head?


Any advice will be appreciated.


Bill

BeBe 387

Currently Barcelona, Spain


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Correction on Propane tank capacity in the lazarette

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

BeBe has USA tanks... one 10# and one 20#. .both are aluminum tanks.

And, we also have an EU blue GAZ tank.

Only 2 of the 3 tanks fit in the compartment. In our west around circumnavigation beginning at St. Thomes USVI, we were able to fill our American tanks until we arrived in Greece. I bought the EU GAZ tank in Greece, and refilled it in all countries in EU so far...in Barcelona, Spain now.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On Aug 30, 2015 3:13 PM, "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 


Good morning,

A little while ago, I believe saying I have two 20 Lbs propane tank in the lazarette storage.
I just refilled one and in fact it is a 10 lbs.
So like S/V Bebe, I have two 10 Lbs...

Sorry for the mistake and potential misleading.
http://nikimat.com/propane_tank_storage.html

Sincerely, Alexandre

SM2K NIKIMAT
Flamingo Marina, Grand Bahama


Correction on Propane tank capacity in the lazarette

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning,

A little while ago, I believe saying I have two 20 Lbs propane tank in the lazarette storage.
I just refilled one and in fact it is a 10 lbs.
So like S/V Bebe, I have two 10 Lbs...

Sorry for the mistake and potential misleading.
http://nikimat.com/propane_tank_storage.html

Sincerely, Alexandre

SM2K NIKIMAT
Flamingo Marina, Grand Bahama


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Inverter Grounding

Chris Flack
 

Hi Bill,

In the Victron manual (Appendix A: Connection Overview), it refers to the different connections in summary as
A  AC input L1 and neutral (N)
C  AC output line L1 and neutral (N)
R  PE (ground)  terminals

We are packing up about yo leave in the morning and won't have time to remove the cover and check again,  but I know there wasn't anything connected to R terminals until the electrian connected it yesterday.

Sorry I can't answer more but packing stuff away and packing up the boat.

Cheers
Chris
Hemera SM031


-----Original Message-----
From: "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Inverter Grounding

 

Chris,

I apologize but I cannot follow your "ground" and "neutral" terminology. I am certainly not an electrician or an electrical expert. And your electrician is most likely a good electrician, but probably has limited experience with a marine environment such as Amel'a sophisticated wiring schemes that help us avoid electrolysis.

Before I make my point to you, let's agree on the following terminology:

230VAC 50Htz:
Load (Live or Positive wire) at 230VAC - BROWN
Return (Neutral or Negative wire) - BLUE
Earth (Ground) - GREEN/YELLOW

110VAC 60Htz:
Live (Positive) at 110VAC - BLACK
Neutral (Negative) - WHITE
Ground (Earth) - GREEN

220VAC 60Htz:
Live (Positive) at 110VAC 60Htz RED
Live (Positive) at 110VAC 60Htz BLACK
Neutral (Negative) - WHITE
Ground (Earth) - GREEN

DC or Direct Current of any voltage:
Positive - RED in US, RED or BROWN in EU
Negative - BLACK in US, BLACK or BLUE in EU

The EU inverter most assuredly has a three wire connection to 230VAC 50Htz:
Load (Live or Positive wire) at 230VAC - BROWN
Return (Neutral or Negative wire) - BLUE
Earth (Ground) - GREEN/YELLOW but NOT the green/yellow Amel bonding system

And, the EU inverter has a two wire connection to the battery bank:
Positive - Amel uses RED
Negative - Amel uses BLACK

MY IMPORTANT POINT TO YOU IS:
If internally your inverter has a connection between the Battery Bank Negative BLACK WIRE and the 230VAC 50HTZ Earth, you may have an electrolysis problem. AND, that may have been the reason that Earth was not connected. You need to know if there is an internal connection between the Battery Bank Negative and Earth. Because if there is, I would forgo the Earth connection to the inverter.

Bill
BeBe 387





Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On Aug 30, 2015 8:32 AM, "Chris Flack chris@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Good Morning and thanks all,

I got the electrician to look at his work and he agreed that it should have Ground connections to the terminals within the inverter and came back with his tools and wire and connected it up to the main AC.

There are Neutral connections for both AC Input and AC Output.

Cheers
Chris
Hemera SM031

On 30-Aug-15 1:41 AM, Andrew Lamb andrew.lamb@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:
 

Chris

 

I think it depends what you mean by “grounded” – my understanding of these things is that with an inverter, like a generator and the boat side of an isolation transformer that one of the AC 230v outputs (nominated as neutral) provides the grounding or earth point for your AC system i.e. the  “common return path for electric current”.

 

So when you say the inverter do you mean the casing or the AC output earth as the latter is already the reference ground in the system?

 

Andrew

 

Ronpische

SM2k 472

Canet en Roussillion, France

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 11:04 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Inverter Grounding

 

 

Good Afternoon All,

Would someone be able to explain the implications and possible dangers of not having your inverter grounded?

This goes back to a question I was asking about inverters a couple of weeks ago.

Thanks
Chris Flack
Hemera SM031
Currently at Gocek



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Inverter Grounding

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Chris,

I apologize but I cannot follow your "ground" and "neutral" terminology. I am certainly not an electrician or an electrical expert. And your electrician is most likely a good electrician, but probably has limited experience with a marine environment such as Amel'a sophisticated wiring schemes that help us avoid electrolysis.

Before I make my point to you, let's agree on the following terminology:

230VAC 50Htz:
Load (Live or Positive wire) at 230VAC - BROWN
Return (Neutral or Negative wire) - BLUE
Earth (Ground) - GREEN/YELLOW

110VAC 60Htz:
Live (Positive) at 110VAC - BLACK
Neutral (Negative) - WHITE
Ground (Earth) - GREEN

220VAC 60Htz:
Live (Positive) at 110VAC 60Htz RED
Live (Positive) at 110VAC 60Htz BLACK
Neutral (Negative) - WHITE
Ground (Earth) - GREEN

DC or Direct Current of any voltage:
Positive - RED in US, RED or BROWN in EU
Negative - BLACK in US, BLACK or BLUE in EU

The EU inverter most assuredly has a three wire connection to 230VAC 50Htz:
Load (Live or Positive wire) at 230VAC - BROWN
Return (Neutral or Negative wire) - BLUE
Earth (Ground) - GREEN/YELLOW but NOT the green/yellow Amel bonding system

And, the EU inverter has a two wire connection to the battery bank:
Positive - Amel uses RED
Negative - Amel uses BLACK

MY IMPORTANT POINT TO YOU IS:
If internally your inverter has a connection between the Battery Bank Negative BLACK WIRE and the 230VAC 50HTZ Earth, you may have an electrolysis problem. AND, that may have been the reason that Earth was not connected. You need to know if there is an internal connection between the Battery Bank Negative and Earth. Because if there is, I would forgo the Earth connection to the inverter.

Bill
BeBe 387





Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On Aug 30, 2015 8:32 AM, "Chris Flack chris@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Good Morning and thanks all,

I got the electrician to look at his work and he agreed that it should have Ground connections to the terminals within the inverter and came back with his tools and wire and connected it up to the main AC.

There are Neutral connections for both AC Input and AC Output.

Cheers
Chris
Hemera SM031

On 30-Aug-15 1:41 AM, Andrew Lamb andrew.lamb@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:
 

Chris

 

I think it depends what you mean by “grounded” – my understanding of these things is that with an inverter, like a generator and the boat side of an isolation transformer that one of the AC 230v outputs (nominated as neutral) provides the grounding or earth point for your AC system i.e. the  “common return path for electric current”.

 

So when you say the inverter do you mean the casing or the AC output earth as the latter is already the reference ground in the system?

 

Andrew

 

Ronpische

SM2k 472

Canet en Roussillion, France

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 11:04 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Inverter Grounding

 

 

Good Afternoon All,

Would someone be able to explain the implications and possible dangers of not having your inverter grounded?

This goes back to a question I was asking about inverters a couple of weeks ago.

Thanks
Chris Flack
Hemera SM031
Currently at Gocek