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Re: Amel 54 Mainsail furler removal

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Hi Paul;

I just removed and reinstalled a new furler on our 54. The motor at first appears wider than the profile but it is not. You have to make sure that you have removed the 4 upper screws and the two lower ones that hold the motor in place. From the picture you posted, you have already done this.

There are rubber inserts at the screw locations in the body of the motor. This may make it more difficult for the motor to be removed.

Try rotating the motor in the mast profile about 45 degrees and pull firmly from the top of the motor . It will pull out from the top and you then can see the rubber inserts and pull out the bottom as well. Take care not to lose the inserts.

The wires then need to be disconnected in the forward port cabin locker and fed from the access panel in the mast.

Good luck
Aty and mohammad
B&B Kokomo Amel 54 #99


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Refrigerator replacement 1998 SM

Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
 

Hello Gary,

I installed a Frigoboat 135L (vs 80 L previously) with keel cooler.  Compressor is at the bottom of the adjoining cabinet.  Very efficient and cools hard and fast.

I know, I know… I made a hole in the hull abeam the keel for protection.




Kind regards

Jean-Pierre Germain
SY Eleuthera, SM 007


On 10 Sep 2015, at 19:03, gary@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I'm looking for a suitable replacement for the refrigerator.  Seems like the choices are a bit too skinny or about a quarter inch too wide to fit in the existing cutout. (Isotherm and Dometic). I've been looking at the two-drawer models but would welcome feedback on why or why not this would be a good idea.  

Does anyone have a model number that fits pretty much exactly?

Thanks in advance,

Gary W
S/V Adagio
SM 209





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Refrigerator replacement 1998 SM

Mark Erdos
 

Gary,



We are currently looking at fridgaboat models available from: coastalclimatecontrol.com







With best regards,



Mark



Skipper

Sailing Yacht: Cream Puff



www.creampuff.us



From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 12:04 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Refrigerator replacement 1998 SM





I'm looking for a suitable replacement for the refrigerator. Seems like the choices are a bit too skinny or about a quarter inch too wide to fit in the existing cutout. (Isotherm and Dometic). I've been looking at the two-drawer models but would welcome feedback on why or why not this would be a good idea.

Does anyone have a model number that fits pretty much exactly?



Thanks in advance,



Gary W

S/V Adagio

SM 209









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Refrigerator replacement 1998 SM

Gary Wells
 

I'm looking for a suitable replacement for the refrigerator.  Seems like the choices are a bit too skinny or about a quarter inch too wide to fit in the existing cutout. (Isotherm and Dometic). I've been looking at the two-drawer models but would welcome feedback on why or why not this would be a good idea.  
Does anyone have a model number that fits pretty much exactly?

Thanks in advance,

Gary W
S/V Adagio
SM 209



Amel 54 Mainsail furler removal

ya_fohi
 

Hi,

I need to remove my Amel 54 main sail furler (which has seized) which sits in the cavity at he bottom of the main mast, BUT, the untit is actually slightly wider than the mast cavity! Does anyone know how to remove it?



Any advice appreciated,
Thanks
Paul


Re: Gas tanks in Turkey

Rink De Haan
 

We have been 5 years in Turkey and were always able to get the right (camping) gas.
However the are not in official labeled "camping gaz" bottles. Also the colors vary.
We learned that you have to explicitly ask for camping gas. They also use the same type of bottles for non camping gas.

Best regards,

Rink
SY Razor's Edge
SM2k #330
currently in Pescara Italy


Re: Gas tanks in Turkey

Paul Osterberg
 

We are in Turkey now and have had no problems to change the blue campingar bottles they are however green in Turkey
Paul Sykerpa


Gas tanks in Turkey

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

We are heading to Turkey next season. So far, everywhere in the Med., including the Ionian, we have happily found blue camping gas tanks to exchange.
We have been told that we have to get Turkish tanks in Turkey.
Is this correct ?

Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Gouvia


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Maker Hoses

sailormon <kimberlite@...>
 

I should be in St Maarten about November 9 – mas o menos—drop by if you can

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 7:26 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Maker Hoses

 

 

Hi Eric,

 

We are in Rock Hall on the eastern shore of the Chesapeake. Antigua this winter.

 

Tom Peacock

SM Aletes #240


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SM Windlass question

sailormon <kimberlite@...>
 

They are also available from vetus den ouden.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 4:32 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SM Windlass question

 

 

Tom,

One more comment. You said that it appears that it is the motor. However you also said, having dropped 120 feet of chain. If the chain dropping was unintended, the culprit is the rubber boot that keeps the switches on top of the windlass dry. When exposed to UV, they will crack in 3 years. When water gets in there the switch will activate. You should get some spare switches with boots and some boots if they are available, separately... The last time I bought some I bought from Amel SAV.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+34 600 659 769 Spain Mobile
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On Sep 7, 2015 10:44 PM, "peacock@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Having dropped 120 feet of chain, my windlass died. It appears to be the electric motor, hopefully just a new set of brushes.

 

Fortunately, I had enough muscle power assistance on board to raise the anchor. However, I also looked into how to use the windlass manually. There is a handle that fits into the windlass that appears to allow one to raise the anchor by repeatedly turning the windless with the handle. 

 

The problem seems to be that there is only one hole into which to insert the handle. The area 180 degrees from the hole is taken by the chain counter button. I am unable to unscrew the button; in addition, the screw portion looks fairly small, as if it might not take the diameter of the handle. 

 

Any suggestions? I find it hard to believe that Amel would have modified the windlass to the point where one cannot raise the ancho r by hand.

 

Thanks!

 

Tom Peacock

SM 240 Aletes


Re: C-Drive

Stephen Davis
 

Has anyone posted the photos Olivier referred to in part 17 of this thread? Sadly, we could certainly use them right now, but I can't seem to find them using the internal search engine in the photos section of the forum. If anyone has them or knows where we can get them, we'd be grateful. Our e-address is below.

Thanks,
Liz Davis
S/V Aloha
SM72
FlyboySCD at gmail dotcom


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Maker Hoses

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Hello Tom,

This is also where I ordered my hose and fitting. But they were shipped from France.
So might be a little cheaper if you order directly from there.

Fitting were $90 a piece (need 4) (and I didn't know at the time they were reusable)
Hose was $48 for both (a little longer).

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT

Great Harbour Cay, Berry Island, Bahamas





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On Wed, 9/9/15, Veit Mueller veitm@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Maker Hoses
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Wednesday, September 9, 2015, 6:33 AM


 









Hi Tom:
If you're in the US call Mark
Fruehof, he's the Dessalateur rep and really knows his
stuff.207 522 6737  Tel
Cheers,Veit

Sent from my vm
iPad
On Sep 8, 2015, at 7:35 PM,
peacock@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:
















 






Thanks to all,
not only for the general wealth of information over the past
several years, but also for answers to some very specific
questions I've had the last couple of days. I have not
been able to add much of my own, but did just replace the
Raymarine auto helm brains with their new unit; if any
interest, I could certainly digress on it. 

The flurry of
my writing has to do with plans to take Aletes to the Caribbean
this fall. The D-50 water maker has not been used for at
least 8 years. I did change the membranes this
spring. 

I believe the
water maker hoses have never been changed, which, at a 1999
keel laying, makes them at least 15 years old. I have read
with interest the experiences with hoses going bad, and not
only leaving you potentially without water, but also
providing a great lesson in metallo-salt
chemistry. 

I would like
to pre-emptively replace the two high pressure hoses. My
interpretation is that the fittings are reusable, that
it's usually the hose-fitting interface that
fails. 

I would like
to order the correct size high pressure hose. I believe it
should be rated at least 60 bar, probably safer to err
towards 100. My problem is with the size. The Desalator
literature talks about a 10 mm inner diameter. Does anyone
have direct knowledge of this? A post from Bill on BeBe mentions a 5/16 hose,
made in Italy, which is an unusual size for a European
source (I wish the U.S. would go metric, but probably not in
my children's lifetime). Plus 5/16 is almost identical
to 8 mm. At this point, there are so many hoses, which adds
to the confusion.

Any thoughts
on hose size? Are the fittings truly reusable? Are the lower
pressure hoses OK for now if they look good?

Thanks
again,
Tom
Peacock
SM 2000 Aletes #240
























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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Maker Hoses

Veit Mueller <veitm@...>
 

Hi Tom:

If you're in the US call Mark Fruehof, he's the Dessalateur rep and really knows his stuff.
207 522 6737  Tel

Cheers,
Veit

Sent from my vm iPad

On Sep 8, 2015, at 7:35 PM, peacock@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Thanks to all, not only for the general wealth of information over the past several years, but also for answers to some very specific questions I've had the last couple of days. I have not been able to add much of my own, but did just replace the Raymarine auto helm brains with their new unit; if any interest, I could certainly digress on it. 

The flurry of my writing has to do with plans to take Aletes to the Caribbean this fall. The D-50 water maker has not been used for at least 8 years. I did change the membranes this spring. 

I believe the water maker hoses have never been changed, which, at a 1999 keel laying, makes them at least 15 years old. I have read with interest the experiences with hoses going bad, and not only leaving you potentially without water, but also providing a great lesson in metallo-salt chemistry. 

I would like to pre-emptively replace the two high pressure hoses. My interpretation is that the fittings are reusable, that it's usually the hose-fitting interface that fails. 

I would like to order the correct size high pressure hose. I believe it should be rated at least 60 bar, probably safer to err towards 100. My problem is with the size. The Desalator literature talks about a 10 mm inner diameter. Does anyone have direct knowledge of this? A post from Bill on BeBe mentions a 5/16 hose, made in Italy, which is an unusual size for a European source (I wish the U.S. would go metric, but probably not in my children's lifetime). Plus 5/16 is almost identical to 8 mm. At this point, there are so many hoses, which adds to the confusion.

Any thoughts on hose size? Are the fittings truly reusable? Are the lower pressure hoses OK for now if they look good?

Thanks again,
Tom Peacock
SM 2000 Aletes #240



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Maker Hoses

peacock@...
 

Hi Eric,

We are in Rock Hall on the eastern shore of the Chesapeake. Antigua this winter.

Tom Peacock
SM Aletes #240


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SM Windlass question

peacock@...
 

Thanks for your thoughts. I know it’s the motor because I took the motor out and wired it back up again, no action at all. There is 24 volts coming in from the relays/switches.

We have also replaced the boots and cleaned the switches in the past, it is definitely a weak link in the system. We have now replaced the switches with a more robust, more waterproof design. In addition, we now have a cover for the windlass, which will hopefully add more life to the parts.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Maker Hoses

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Tom,

The High Pressure (HP) hoses are easy to find. Go to a shop that specializes in HP hydraulic hoses and give them the specs which are ZEC VE740000 SAE  100 R7 5/16" Made in Italy 

The information sheet about the Dessalator hose-end devices is very poorly written...for instance it never tells you that the hose-end screws onto the hose with left hand threads...you need to know this to take them off and put them on without damaging the hose. They are reusable. If you plan to use them do this:
  1. Buy some extra hose and practice setting one of the Dessalator screw-on ends on at least 4 times before you attempt it with your new hose.
  2. Before you place the hose-ends on, make sure the threads that bite into the hose are clean. Each time you thread them on hose, pieces of hose will end up in the threads. If you do not clean these threads, I am fairly sure that the hose will eventually pop out.
  3. Cut your new hose about 6-8" longer in case you have a miss-step with the Dessalator ends.
  4. Be sure that you do not cut or crack the outer layer of the hose when screwing the end on...if you do, start over!
  5. Be sure to put a slight amount of silicone grease (like you find in a dive shop for dive equipment O rings) on the Dessalator hoe-end barbed end that goes inside the new hose.
  6. I had also to put the slightest amount of silicone grease on the first 1/4" of the outside layer of the new hose because it kept binding before I had could screw it (left handed) all the way on.
Follow this link to download the PDF: https://xa.yimg.com/df/amelyachtowners/Dessalator%C2%A0Installation+of+high+pressure+Connectors.pdf?token=gxMgl9pDSSXHusSOVp9ggzwb uYMe7sPeP4636GAwCnz6Off0QSgH_WcieOPpRqlNvDPGFIZY8gtUysIP303o2gTEY25x7pC5asyXjImgJyn2zTDOxWnWumW7P62winA_5tAFDIGTkRlXEQV9rfSSUnBUa6e2uOWaXjCF2JrnE8s9a-95Z-komlapNqSvbta3-g&type=download

Or, if you find a hose shop, bring them your old hoses and have them make new ones for you. I would use bronze ends rather than stainless steel because bronze is stronger and will take tightening better. Bronze works well in combination with SS. You will want to coat the bronze with something like CorrosionX, but make sure that you do not get anything on the outer layer of the hose because it seems to be sensitive.

I may have made the job of using the Dessalator ends sound more difficult than it really is.

Best,

Bill 387


On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 1:35 AM, peacock@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thanks to all, not only for the general wealth of information over the past several years, but also for answers to some very specific questions I've had the last couple of days. I have not been able to add much of my own, but did just replace the Raymarine auto helm brains with their new unit; if any interest, I could certainly digress on it. 

The flurry of my writing has to do with plans to take Aletes to the Caribbean this fall. The D-50 water maker has not been used for at least 8 years. I did change the membranes this spring. 

I believe the water m aker hoses have never been changed, which, at a 1999 keel laying, makes them at least 15 years old. I have read with interest the experiences with hoses going bad, and not only leaving you potentially without water, but also providing a great lesson in metallo-salt chemistry. 

I would like to pre-emptively replace the two high pressure hoses. My interpretation is that the fittings are reusable, that it's usually the hose-fitting interface that fails. 

I would like to order the correct size high pressure hose. I believe it should be rated at least 60 bar, probably safer to err towards 100. My problem is with the size. The Desalator literature talks about a 10 mm inner diameter. Does anyone have direct knowledge of this? A post from Bill on BeBe mentions a 5/16 hose, made in Italy, which is an unusual size for a European source (I wish the U.S. would go metric, but probably not in my children's lifetime). Plus 5/16 is almost identical to 8 mm. At this point, there are so many hoses, which adds to the confusion.

Any thoughts on hose size? Are the fittings truly reusable? Are the lower pressure hoses OK for now if they look good?

Thanks again,
Tom Peacock
SM 2000 Aletes #240




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] SM Windlass question

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Tom,

One more comment. You said that it appears that it is the motor. However you also said, having dropped 120 feet of chain. If the chain dropping was unintended, the culprit is the rubber boot that keeps the switches on top of the windlass dry. When exposed to UV, they will crack in 3 years. When water gets in there the switch will activate. You should get some spare switches with boots and some boots if they are available, separately... The last time I bought some I bought from Amel SAV.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+34 600 659 769 Spain Mobile
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On Sep 7, 2015 10:44 PM, "peacock@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Having dropped 120 feet of chain, my windlass died. It appears to be the electric motor, hopefully just a new set of brushes.


Fortunately, I had enough muscle power assistance on board to raise the anchor. However, I also looked into how to use the windlass manually. There is a handle that fits into the windlass that appears to allow one to raise the anchor by repeatedly turning the windless with the handle. 


The problem seems to be that there is only one hole into which to insert the handle. The area 180 degrees from the hole is taken by the chain counter button. I am unable to unscrew the button; in addition, the screw portion looks fairly small, as if it might not take the diameter of the handle. 


Any suggestions? I find it hard to believe that Amel would have modified the windlass to the point where one cannot raise the ancho r by hand.


Thanks!


Tom Peacock

SM 240 Aletes


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Maker Hoses

Kent Robertson
 

Hi Tom,
See my post on June 13 in the thread "Dessalator High Pressure Hoses".  Charleston Rubber and Gasket made me two hoses for $35 each several years ago.  High quality, made them while I waited.  I have a spare but don't have a way to measure the thread size.  I'll take it in tomorrow and see if I can identify it.  I believe that someone has posted the size and thread size of the fittings on this site in the past but a cursory search didn't find it.
Any company that makes high pressure hoses should be able to make you what you need if you take the old hose in for them to see.
I'd go with a food grade hose and stainless fittings that will withstand pressure to 80-100 bar.

Kent
SM 243
Kristy
Currently New London, CT. Home of Defender Industries marine supplies...going tomorrow to pick up a couple parts and look around their store.  I'll be like a kid in a candy store! 


On Sep 8, 2015, at 7:46 PM, sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Tom,

Where are you located?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 7:36 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Maker Hoses

 

 

Thanks to all, not only for the general wealth of information over the past several years, but also for answers to some very specific questions I've had the last couple of days. I have not been able to add much of my own, but did just replace the Raymarine auto helm brains with their new unit; if any interest, I could certainly digress on it. 

The flurry of my writing has to do with plans to take Aletes to the Caribbean this fall. The D-50 water maker has not been used for at least 8 years. I did change the membranes this spring. 

I believe the water maker hoses have never been changed, which, at a 1999 keel laying, makes them at least 15 years old. I have read with interest the experiences with hoses going bad, and not only leaving you potentially without water, but also providing a great lesson in metallo-salt chemistry. 

I would like to pre-emptively replace the two high pressure hoses. My interpretation is that the fittings are reusable, that it's usually the hose-fitting interface that fails. 

I would like to order the correct size high pressure hose. I believe it should be rated at least 60 bar, probably safer to err towards 100. My problem is with the size. The Desalator literature talks about a 10 mm inner diameter. Does anyone have direct knowledge of this? A post from Bill on BeBe mentions a 5/16 hose, made in Italy, which is an unusual size for a European source (I wish the U.S. would go metric, but probably not in my children's lifetime). Plus 5/16 is almost identical to 8 mm. At this point, there are so many hoses, which adds to the confusion.

Any thoughts on hose size? Are the fittings truly reusable? Are the lower pressure hoses OK for now if they look good?

Thanks again,
Tom Peacock
SM 2000 Aletes #240

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Maker Hoses

sailormon <kimberlite@...>
 

Hi Tom,

Where are you located?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 7:36 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water Maker Hoses

 

 

Thanks to all, not only for the general wealth of information over the past several years, but also for answers to some very specific questions I've had the last couple of days. I have not been able to add much of my own, but did just replace the Raymarine auto helm brains with their new unit; if any interest, I could certainly digress on it. 

The flurry of my writing has to do with plans to take Aletes to the Caribbean this fall. The D-50 water maker has not been used for at least 8 years. I did change the membranes this spring. 

I believe the water maker hoses have never been changed, which, at a 1999 keel laying, makes them at least 15 years old. I have read with interest the experiences with hoses going bad, and not only leaving you potentially without water, but also providing a great lesson in metallo-salt chemistry. 

I would like to pre-emptively replace the two high pressure hoses. My interpretation is that the fittings are reusable, that it's usually the hose-fitting interface that fails. 

I would like to order the correct size high pressure hose. I believe it should be rated at least 60 bar, probably safer to err towards 100. My problem is with the size. The Desalator literature talks about a 10 mm inner diameter. Does anyone have direct knowledge of this? A post from Bill on BeBe mentions a 5/16 hose, made in Italy, which is an unusual size for a European source (I wish the U.S. would go metric, but probably not in my children's lifetime). Plus 5/16 is almost identical to 8 mm. At this point, there are so many hoses, which adds to the confusion.

Any thoughts on hose size? Are the fittings truly reusable? Are the lower pressure hoses OK for now if they look good?

Thanks again,
Tom Peacock
SM 2000 Aletes #240

 


Water Maker Hoses

peacock@...
 

Thanks to all, not only for the general wealth of information over the past several years, but also for answers to some very specific questions I've had the last couple of days. I have not been able to add much of my own, but did just replace the Raymarine auto helm brains with their new unit; if any interest, I could certainly digress on it. 

The flurry of my writing has to do with plans to take Aletes to the Caribbean this fall. The D-50 water maker has not been used for at least 8 years. I did change the membranes this spring. 

I believe the water maker hoses have never been changed, which, at a 1999 keel laying, makes them at least 15 years old. I have read with interest the experiences with hoses going bad, and not only leaving you potentially without water, but also providing a great lesson in metallo-salt chemistry. 

I would like to pre-emptively replace the two high pressure hoses. My interpretation is that the fittings are reusable, that it's usually the hose-fitting interface that fails. 

I would like to order the correct size high pressure hose. I believe it should be rated at least 60 bar, probably safer to err towards 100. My problem is with the size. The Desalator literature talks about a 10 mm inner diameter. Does anyone have direct knowledge of this? A post from Bill on BeBe mentions a 5/16 hose, made in Italy, which is an unusual size for a European source (I wish the U.S. would go metric, but probably not in my children's lifetime). Plus 5/16 is almost identical to 8 mm. At this point, there are so many hoses, which adds to the confusion.

Any thoughts on hose size? Are the fittings truly reusable? Are the lower pressure hoses OK for now if they look good?

Thanks again,
Tom Peacock
SM 2000 Aletes #240