On Jun 12, 2015, at 11:16 AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

I am in the Bahamas, plus I still need the fitting information...
Thanks again, Alexandre

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On Fri, 6/12/15, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dessalator High Pressure Hoses
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Friday, June 12, 2015, 9:52 AM












Try Charleston Rubber and Gasket. They
shipped them the next day.Kent
On Jun 12,
2015, at 10:15 AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:























Hello Kent,



As I wrote, I purchased my spare high pressure hoses from
Mark at Great Water. I am very happy with his service and
recommendations but

I thought they were very expensive… $90 for each fitting,
so over $400 for 2 hoses and $100 shipping from France…


I also bought the Oring kit for HP pump 277 from him at a
price of $461… since later on I found that same kit for
less than $100 I was hoping to find the hose for less…




Sincerely, Alexandre




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On Fri, 6/12/15, Kent Robertson karkauai@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:



Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dessalator High Pressure
Hoses

To: "amelyachtowners@..."
<amelyachtowners@...>

Date: Friday, June 12, 2015, 8:54 AM

























A few

years ago my hose failed at the input to the membranes,
that

was "repaired" by Ray Eaton, and the next time

out, it failed at the pump. I bought a hydraulic hose

replacement at a local shop in Abacos, Bahamas for $75.
I

ordered two replacements from Charleston Rubber and
Gasket

(http://www.chasragco.com/product.aspx?catid=87

) with food-grade hoses and stainless fittings for $35
each

(plus shipping). Sorry, I'm not on the boat so I

don't have the fitting sizes, but I know they are
metric

and "standard" thread. The threads are the
same

on both ends of the high pressure hose and output hose
going

from the membranes to the panel in the galley.You can

probably get Mark at Great Waters Marine Systems (the US

Dessalator guy) in Massachusetts to tell you the fitting

size...he's very accomodating. I should be back on
the

boat next week, I'll post the fitting sizes/threads

then.KentSM243Kristy





From: "Alexandre

Uster von Baar uster@...
[amelyachtowners]"

<amelyachtowners@...>

To:

amelyachtowners@...


Sent: Friday, June 12,

2015 8:14 AM

Subject: Re: [Amel

Yacht Owners] Dessalator High Pressure Hoses

























Good

morning Bill,







In my case the hose failed near the fitting attached to
the

CAT 277 pump.



It spread water up to the ceiling.







I would guess the hose that failed were the one before
the

membranes (because of the higher pressure).







To me it looks like there is a lots of vibrations from
this

pump. So I installed the new hose will less of a
bent/turn.





I think it would be wise to install some type of device
so

that in case of failure the water is not spread on the
water

chargers, etc.



Possibly a larger hose just sitting that would redirect
the

water in a less critical area.







Also, in my case it seems that when the 24 volt electric

motor is on for the water maker, the 220 volt is also

turning. I don't think it should.



How could I solve this issue? Part to change? Or
clean?









Sincerely, Alexandre



SM2K #289 NIKIMAT



Taino Beach, Grand Bahama







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On Fri, 6/12/15, 'Bill & Judy Rouse'

yahoogroups@...
[amelyachtowners]

<amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:







Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dessalator High
Pressure

Hoses



To: amelyachtowners@...



Date: Friday, June 12, 2015, 1:39 AM



















































Danny, Alex, and Trevor...and



anyone else,



Which end and which hose gave way. Maybe there



is common failure that we should look for.



Bill Rouse







BeBe Amel 53 #387







Sent from my tablet







+39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile







+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail



On Jun 11, 2015 10:14 PM,



"Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@...



[amelyachtowners]"

<amelyachtowners@...>



wrote:







































































































We



had new hoses made up it St Maarten when we passed

through



in 2009. The cost was outrageous. The hose was cheap
but

the



fittings!!!!!!!CheersDannySM



299 Ocean Pearl







From:



"Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@...



[amelyachtowners]"

<amelyachtowners@...>



To: amelyachtowners@...







Sent: Friday, 12 June



2015 7:30 AM



Subject: Re: [Amel



Yacht Owners] Dessalator High Pressure Hoses



















































Thanks Bill,















So with s shelf life is 5 to 6 years, it means that

having



spares for that long won't really help?















Regarding the High pressure fitting, just requires



"regular" tools?















Sincerely, Alexandre















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On Thu, 6/11/15, yahoogroups@...



[amelyachtowners]

<amelyachtowners@...>



wrote:















Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dessalator High Pressure



Hoses







To: amelyachtowners@...







Date: Thursday, June 11, 2015, 1:05 PM







































































































The Dessalator 160 Liter water maker







has do it yourself (DIY) High Pressure fittings on the







hoses. The ends come off and you can install them on

new







hose with just simple tools.







My experience and my







experience in this group tells me these have about a 5



year







life as long as they are not exposed to caustic



chemicals,







overuse of pickling chemicals, or petroleum products.

This



life is not







dependent on use, but age







only.







If you happen to go over five







years, the salt water spewing in your engine

compartment



can







be very destructive.







The hose







on BeBe is marked: ZEC VE740000 SAE 100 R7







5/16" Made in Italy







I am due for replacement and hope to get







some soon.







In my case I figure







5 meters is plenty.







Best,







BillBeBe #387Currently







southeast Italy























































































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On Fri, 6/12/15, amelyachtowners@... <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] New file uploaded to amelyachtowners
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Friday, June 12, 2015, 10:57 AM


 











Hello,



This email message is a notification to let you know that

a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the
amelyachtowners

group.



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Description : Hose end connections from Dessalator



You can access this file at the URL:

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On Fri, 6/12/15, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dessalator High Pressure Hoses
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Friday, June 12, 2015, 9:52 AM


 









Try Charleston Rubber and Gasket.  They
shipped them the next day.Kent
On Jun 12,
2015, at 10:15 AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:
















 






Hello Kent,



As I wrote, I purchased my spare high pressure hoses from
Mark at Great Water. I am very happy with his service and
recommendations but

I thought they were very expensive… $90 for each fitting,
so over $400 for 2 hoses and $100 shipping from France…


I also bought the Oring kit for HP pump 277 from him at a
price of $461… since later on I found that same kit for
less than $100 I was hoping to find the hose for less…




Sincerely, Alexandre




--------------------------------------------

On Fri, 6/12/15, Kent Robertson karkauai@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:



Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dessalator High Pressure
Hoses

To: "amelyachtowners@..."
<amelyachtowners@...>

Date: Friday, June 12, 2015, 8:54 AM





 



















A few

years ago my hose failed at the input to the membranes,
that

was "repaired" by Ray Eaton, and the next time

out, it failed at the pump.  I bought a hydraulic hose

replacement at a local shop in Abacos, Bahamas for $75. 
I

ordered two replacements from Charleston Rubber and
Gasket

(http://www.chasragco.com/product.aspx?catid=87

) with food-grade hoses and stainless fittings for $35
each

(plus shipping).  Sorry, I'm not on the boat so I

don't have the fitting sizes, but I know they are
metric

and "standard" thread.  The threads are the
same

on both ends of the high pressure hose and output hose
going

from the membranes to the panel in the galley.You can

probably get Mark at Great Waters Marine Systems (the US

Dessalator guy) in Massachusetts to tell you the fitting

size...he's very accomodating.  I should be back on
the

boat next week, I'll post the fitting sizes/threads

then.KentSM243Kristy





From: "Alexandre

Uster von Baar uster@...
[amelyachtowners]"

<amelyachtowners@...>

To:

amelyachtowners@...


Sent: Friday, June 12,

2015 8:14 AM

Subject: Re: [Amel

Yacht Owners] Dessalator High Pressure Hoses





 



















Good

morning Bill,







In my case the hose failed near the fitting attached to
the

CAT 277 pump.



It spread water up to the ceiling.







I would guess the hose that failed were the one before
the

membranes (because of the higher pressure).







To me it looks like there is a lots of vibrations from
this

pump. So I installed the new hose will less of a
bent/turn.





I think it would be wise to install some type of device
so

that in case of failure the water is not spread on the
water

chargers, etc.



Possibly a larger hose just sitting that would redirect
the

water in a less critical area.







Also, in my case it seems that when the 24 volt electric

motor is on for the water maker, the 220 volt is also

turning. I don't think it should.



How could I solve this issue? Part to change? Or
clean?









Sincerely, Alexandre



SM2K #289 NIKIMAT



Taino Beach, Grand Bahama







--------------------------------------------



On Fri, 6/12/15, 'Bill & Judy Rouse'

yahoogroups@...
[amelyachtowners]

<amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:







Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dessalator High
Pressure

Hoses



To: amelyachtowners@...



Date: Friday, June 12, 2015, 1:39 AM











 







































Danny, Alex, and Trevor...and



anyone else,



Which end and which hose gave way. Maybe there



is common failure that we should look for.



Bill Rouse







BeBe Amel 53 #387







Sent from my tablet







+39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile







+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail



On Jun 11, 2015 10:14 PM,



"Danny and Yvonne SIMMS simms@...



[amelyachtowners]"

<amelyachtowners@...>



wrote:































































 







































We



had new hoses made up it St Maarten when we passed

through



in 2009. The cost was outrageous. The hose was cheap
but

the



fittings!!!!!!!CheersDannySM



299 Ocean Pearl



 



From:



"Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@...



[amelyachtowners]"

<amelyachtowners@...>



To: amelyachtowners@...







Sent: Friday, 12 June



2015 7:30 AM



Subject: Re: [Amel



Yacht Owners] Dessalator High Pressure Hoses











 







































Thanks Bill,















So with s shelf life is 5 to 6 years, it means that

having



spares for that long won't really help?















Regarding the High pressure fitting, just requires



"regular" tools?















Sincerely, Alexandre















--------------------------------------------







On Thu, 6/11/15, yahoogroups@...



[amelyachtowners]

<amelyachtowners@...>



wrote:















Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dessalator High Pressure



Hoses







To: amelyachtowners@...







Date: Thursday, June 11, 2015, 1:05 PM























 















































































The Dessalator 160 Liter water maker







has do it yourself (DIY) High Pressure fittings on the







hoses. The ends come off and you can install them on

new







hose with just simple tools.







My experience and my







experience in this group tells me these have about a 5



year







life as long as they are not exposed to caustic



chemicals,







overuse of pickling chemicals, or petroleum products.

This



life is not







dependent on use, but age







only.







If you happen to go over five







years, the salt water spewing in your engine

compartment



can







be very destructive.







The hose







on BeBe is marked: ZEC VE740000 SAE  100 R7







5/16" Made in Italy 







I am due for replacement and hope to get







some soon.







In my case I figure







5 meters is plenty.







Best,







BillBeBe #387Currently







southeast Italy























































































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