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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: ZF Hurth Transmission troubles

karkauai
 

I don't have one on Kristy.  Is it used in conjunction with shaft alternator or shaft break?  I don't have those either.
Thanks,
Kent
SM243


On May 27, 2015, at 11:44 AM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Bill,

I think you're looking at the neutral safety switch.  I'm not entirely sure how it works but it senses when the transmission is in nuetral.  See Sensor Indmar ZF Hurth Transmission Neutral Safety Switch - 00 BOAT - Bakes Online - Detail

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Jib furling Rivets - Bolts

Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...>
 

Well, it depended on the sailing, but maybe once every three or four month.

/Ann-Sofie
S/Y Lady Annila. SM 232

Skickat från min iPad

27 maj 2015 kl. 14:47 skrev Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

Annesofie & Jonas,

Thank you for the pictures you posted! Very interesting…
I totally understand the extra caution when furling in.
For now, I am likely going to stick with the rivets, but once in Martinique in a couple of years will see.

How often did you change the rivets?

Thanks in advance, sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Port Lucaya, Grand Bahama, Bahamas

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On Wed, 5/27/15, kanalmamman@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Jib furling Rivets - Bolts
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2015, 4:22 AM


 









On S/Y Lady Annila we have changed the
genoa to a slighter heavier and bigger one than original.
The positive consequeses are many but thedraw back is that
we had to change the rivets very often cause they broke.
After a while the drilled holes in the fore stay profile,
has grown too big and we needed a solution. As we were in
Caribbean we sailed to Amel in Martinique. They told us that
they now a days when servicing the genoa furler they changed
the rivets for bolts.
We decided to follow
their suggestion and bought the spareparts. They were not
cheap 17 Euro each. But the fitting was perfect so we
suspect that they are special made by Amel for the
purpose.I have made an album in the
Photo section:  Jib furling Rivets - Bolts where you can
see both the bolts with measurements and how we mounted
them.Since we changed we have sailed
from Caribbean to Portugal, last 12 hours with reach to
broad reach winds of 50+ knots. No problem at all with the
bolts. We only have to tighten them every now and then, and
especially after a hard sail.BUT this
solution demands more care when furling the genoa in since
the forces can be heavy. The rivets where made to brake to
avoid damages of the furler and that safety is reduced with
the bolts.
Please see Photo section
and Album: Jib furling Rivets - Bolts

RegardsAnnsofie
& JonasS/Y Lady Annila SM232,
1998
Present in Portimão,
Portugal



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: ZF Hurth Transmission troubles

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Yes, that is the neutral switch. Someone else just told me the same thing.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On May 27, 2015 5:45 PM, "sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Bill,

I think you're looking at the neutral safety switch.  I'm not entirely sure how it works but it senses when the transmission is in nuetral.  See Sensor Indmar ZF Hurth Transmission Neutral Safety Switch - 00 BOAT - Bakes Online - Detail

Sensor Indmar ZF Hurth Transmission Neutral Safet...
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Re: ZF Hurth Transmission troubles

sailor63109@...
 

Bill,

I think you're looking at the neutral safety switch.  I'm not entirely sure how it works but it senses when the transmission is in nuetral.  See Sensor Indmar ZF Hurth Transmission Neutral Safety Switch - 00 BOAT - Bakes Online - Detail

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Jib furling Rivets - Bolts

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Annesofie & Jonas,

Thank you for the pictures you posted! Very interesting…
I totally understand the extra caution when furling in.
For now, I am likely going to stick with the rivets, but once in Martinique in a couple of years will see.

How often did you change the rivets?

Thanks in advance, sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Port Lucaya, Grand Bahama, Bahamas


--------------------------------------------

On Wed, 5/27/15, kanalmamman@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Jib furling Rivets - Bolts
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2015, 4:22 AM


 









On S/Y Lady Annila we have changed the
genoa to a slighter heavier and bigger one than original.
The positive consequeses are many but thedraw back is that
we had to change the rivets very often cause they broke.
After a while the drilled holes in the fore stay profile,
has grown too big and we needed a solution. As we were in
Caribbean we sailed to Amel in Martinique. They told us that
they now a days when servicing the genoa furler they changed
the rivets for bolts.
We decided to follow
their suggestion and bought the spareparts. They were not
cheap 17 Euro each. But the fitting was perfect so we
suspect that they are special made by Amel for the
purpose.I have made an album in the
Photo section:  Jib furling Rivets - Bolts where you can
see both the bolts with measurements and how we mounted
them.Since we changed we have sailed
from Caribbean to Portugal, last 12 hours with reach to
broad reach winds of 50+ knots. No problem at all with the
bolts. We only have to tighten them every now and then, and
especially after a hard sail.BUT this
solution demands more care when furling the genoa in since
the forces can be heavy. The rivets where made to brake to
avoid damages of the furler and that safety is reduced with
the bolts.
Please see Photo section
and Album: Jib furling Rivets - Bolts

RegardsAnnsofie
& JonasS/Y Lady Annila SM232,
1998
Present in Portimão,
Portugal


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] message from delivery captain input

Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...>
 

You can buy the rivets in any hardware store. It is standard size, aluminium, I think it is 7,5 mm

/Ann-Sofie
S/Y Lady Annila SM232

Skickat från min iPad

27 maj 2015 kl. 14:21 skrev Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

Thank you Olivier,

No rigger where i am now (Grand Bahamas), but I will look for the rivets (may be Amel can supply them to me with other parts i would like).

I am a big supporter of preventive maintenance!

Sincerely, Alexandre

--------------------------------------------
On Wed, 5/27/15, Beaute Olivier atlanticyachtsurvey@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] message from delivery captain input
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2015, 1:36 AM


 









Hi
Alexander,
yes the
rivets are the "weak" part of this system. This is
made on purpose, in case of over-load, they may
shear.These are
aluminum rivets, diameter 6 mm, length 18 mm. Ask a rigger
to do it.Replace
your rivets when two are gone, or before...
The best
rule on these very well-designed vessels is that as soon as
something is worn out/broken, you should try and fix the
problem at the earliest opportunity.
Concerning
the VAT issue, you should probably open a new topic. What is
the current vessel's flag?
Olivier.



On Wednesday, May
27, 2015 8:27 AM, Beaute Olivier
<atlanticyachtsurvey@...> wrote:


Hi
William,
you
don't need more than two days for the repair, assuming
you find a rigger that can ease the rigging and tighten it
back, and a mechanic workshop for the disc
operation.I
strongly recommend that you have the furler fixed before
sailing to Boston. It is always better to have things fixed
before sailing offshore...
Concerning
the mizzen boom track, I think your captain mentioned 27mm.
I cannot confirm right now. I will try to get the
information.
Olivier.



On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 8:59 PM,
"william_maffei@... [amelyachtowners]"
<amelyachtowners@...> wrote:



 









Wow!! Thanks for the response! Boat will be in
Bermuda around 4-5 June. Any idea how long a repair like
this will take? In other words... Do you think I should have
the work done in Bermuda or wait to get back to Boston, MA
where she will be staying for the summer. I'm in the
office right now but will be back home in the next hour or
so. Thanks























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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] message from delivery captain input

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Thank you Olivier,

No rigger where i am now (Grand Bahamas), but I will look for the rivets (may be Amel can supply them to me with other parts i would like).

I am a big supporter of preventive maintenance!

Sincerely, Alexandre


--------------------------------------------

On Wed, 5/27/15, Beaute Olivier atlanticyachtsurvey@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] message from delivery captain input
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2015, 1:36 AM


 









Hi
Alexander,
yes the
rivets are the "weak" part of this system. This is
made on purpose, in case of over-load, they may
shear.These are
aluminum rivets, diameter 6 mm, length 18 mm. Ask a rigger
to do it.Replace
your rivets when two are gone, or before...
The best
rule on these very well-designed vessels is that as soon as
something is worn out/broken, you should try and fix the
problem at the earliest opportunity.
Concerning
the VAT issue, you should probably open a new topic. What is
the current vessel's flag?
Olivier.



On Wednesday, May
27, 2015 8:27 AM, Beaute Olivier
<atlanticyachtsurvey@...> wrote:


Hi
William,
you
don't need more than two days for the repair, assuming
you find a rigger that can ease the rigging and tighten it
back, and a mechanic workshop for the disc
operation.I
strongly recommend that you have the furler fixed before
sailing to Boston. It is always better to have things fixed
before sailing offshore...
Concerning
the mizzen boom track, I think your captain mentioned 27mm.
I cannot confirm right now. I will try to get the
information.
Olivier.



On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 8:59 PM,
"william_maffei@... [amelyachtowners]"
<amelyachtowners@...> wrote:



 









Wow!! Thanks for the response! Boat will be in
Bermuda around 4-5 June. Any idea how long a repair like
this will take? In other words... Do you think I should have
the work done in Bermuda or wait to get back to Boston, MA
where she will be staying for the summer. I'm in the
office right now but will be back home in the next hour or
so. Thanks























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Jib furling Rivets - Bolts

kanalmamman@...
 

On S/Y Lady Annila we have changed the genoa to a slighter heavier and bigger one than original. The positive consequeses are many but thedraw back is that we had to change the rivets very often cause they broke. After a while the drilled holes in the fore stay profile, has grown too big and we needed a solution. As we were in Caribbean we sailed to Amel in Martinique. They told us that they now a days when servicing the genoa furler they changed the rivets for bolts.
We decided to follow their suggestion and bought the spareparts. They were not cheap 17 Euro each. But the fitting was perfect so we suspect that they are special made by Amel for the purpose.

I have made an album in the Photo section:  Jib furling Rivets - Bolts where you can see both the bolts with measurements and how we mounted them.

Since we changed we have sailed from Caribbean to Portugal, last 12 hours with reach to broad reach winds of 50+ knots. No problem at all with the bolts. We only have to tighten them every now and then, and especially after a hard sail.

BUT this solution demands more care when furling the genoa in since the forces can be heavy. The rivets where made to brake to avoid damages of the furler and that safety is reduced with the bolts.


Please see Photo section and Album: Jib furling Rivets - Bolts


Regards

Annsofie & Jonas

S/Y Lady Annila SM232, 1998
Present in Portimão, Portugal


Lewmar Size 1 Track End Stop - Mizzen Sheet

yahoogroups@...
 

I was getting tired of the "tired look" of the UV damaged Mizzen Sheet Track End Stop and bought a pair of Lewmar Size 1 Track End Stops on eBay.


I noticed that the ones installed by Amel on BeBe had been drilled with a 10mm nylon sleeve inserted. The sleeve will prevent the end stop from compressing when the bolt is tightened.


Either Lewmar used to make these this way, or Amel modified them to make them better. I suspect the latter. Isn't this very small thing amazing? Oh, I drilled my new Lewmar end stops and inserted the sleeve to match the way Amel did it.


A photo is posted here.

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/photos/albums/1650688738/lightbox/1794394507?orderBy=ordinal&sortOrder=asc&photoFilter=ALL#zax/1794394507


I am really ashamed to post an up-close photo of what I removed. Nothing else on BeBe looks anything like this, and I really dropped the ball by not replacing it earlier.


Bill

BeBe 387

Malta

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] ZF Hurth Transmission troubles

seafeverofcuan@...
 

Hi Bill,
         I asked the same question when ordering the new gearbox. I  also tried to enquire about changing the gearbox model to accept a shaft alternator. I was still afloat in Mexican waters when doing this and trying to locate a gearbox in USA.
Unfortunately no one that I spoke to by Sat phone was able to give me information on either.
Regards,
Trevor
Seafever 
SM 425


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] message from delivery captain input

Olivier Beaute
 

Hi Alexander,

yes the rivets are the "weak" part of this system. This is made on purpose, in case of over-load, they may shear.
These are aluminum rivets, diameter 6 mm, length 18 mm. Ask a rigger to do it.
Replace your rivets when two are gone, or before...

The best rule on these very well-designed vessels is that as soon as something is worn out/broken, you should try and fix the problem at the earliest opportunity.

Concerning the VAT issue, you should probably open a new topic. What is the current vessel's flag?

Olivier.



On Wednesday, May 27, 2015 8:27 AM, Beaute Olivier wrote:


Hi William,

you don't need more than two days for the repair, assuming you find a rigger that can ease the rigging and tighten it back, and a mechanic workshop for the disc operation.
I strongly recommend that you have the furler fixed before sailing to Boston. It is always better to have things fixed before sailing offshore...

Concerning the mizzen boom track, I think your captain mentioned 27mm. I cannot confirm right now. I will try to get the information.

Olivier.



On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 8:59 PM, "william_maffei@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
Wow!! Thanks for the response! Boat will be in Bermuda around 4-5 June. Any idea how long a repair like this will take? In other words... Do you think I should have the work done in Bermuda or wait to get back to Boston, MA where she will be staying for the summer. I'm in the office right now but will be back home in the next hour or so. Thanks





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] message from delivery captain input

Olivier Beaute
 

Hi William,

you don't need more than two days for the repair, assuming you find a rigger that can ease the rigging and tighten it back, and a mechanic workshop for the disc operation.
I strongly recommend that you have the furler fixed before sailing to Boston. It is always better to have things fixed before sailing offshore...

Concerning the mizzen boom track, I think your captain mentioned 27mm. I cannot confirm right now. I will try to get the information.

Olivier.



On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 8:59 PM, "william_maffei@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
Wow!! Thanks for the response! Boat will be in Bermuda around 4-5 June. Any idea how long a repair like this will take? In other words... Do you think I should have the work done in Bermuda or wait to get back to Boston, MA where she will be staying for the summer. I'm in the office right now but will be back home in the next hour or so. Thanks



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] ZF Hurth Transmission troubles

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Let me ask a question here in this thread.

There is a sender which looks like a temperature sender on the top of the transmission. It could possibly be a switch. I have not checked it, but has anyone used this sender for either a temperature alarm or temperature gauge?

Bill
BeBe 387
Malta

On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 7:59 PM, seafeverofcuan@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Bill,

     He may be right but I doubt it, especially if you use a salt busting type chemical to clean the heat exchanger out, which is were I came unstuck.
I brought in the "professionals" to clean salt out of the seawater cooled water ways on the Yanmar and all seemed fine.
When I returned to the boat I even pulled the gearbox heat exchanger just to check and sure enough it was very clean.
About three weeks later during a four day passage it let go in the middle of the night and we had no drive.
At first, I thought I had caught a net and was confused when I went over the side to cut it free to find no marks on the hull and no net.
When I realized it was the gearbox I bypassed the heat exchanger and refilled he gearbox, it ran for about ten hours and then gave up.
The dinghy lashed alongside took me upwind for the next 75 miles.
An iron rule ever since on passage, is that the engine compartment is opened  and a laser temperature gauge is used every two hours to check all the temperatures and also you will soon smell if anything is awry.

Regards,

Trevor
Seafever of Cuan
SM425 Redline
Mexico
For sale



Re: New file uploaded to amelyachtowners

zetta.traill@...
 

we were unable to open the sharki file. Is there another format it could be posted on please?

Thanks,

Warren and Zetta

Manon 2

Sharki 15


New file uploaded to amelyachtowners

amelyachtowners@...
 

Hello,


This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the amelyachtowners
group.


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You can access this file at the URL:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Aft Cabin Lights

karkauai
 

Nothing like that on SM243,  Tom.  The only place I know where all aft cabin lites are together is at the 24V panel.
Kent
SM243
Kristy 


On May 26, 2015, at 5:09 PM, peacock@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Chris,

My less than perfect memory seem to recall a breaker for the aft lights behind the shower curtain in the aft head.

Tom Peacock
SM2000 Aletes #243


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Aft Cabin Lights

Chris Flack
 

Thanks Tom

That's the one I was after. Fir some reason I had it in my head it was for the A/C.

So sorry for being so dumb %-)

Cheers
Chris
Hemera SM031


-----Original Message-----
From: "peacock@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Tue, 26 May 2015 11:09 PM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Aft Cabin Lights

 

Hi Chris,

My less than perfect memory seem to recall a breaker for the aft lights behind the shower curtain in the aft head.

Tom Peacock
SM2000 Aletes #243


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Aft Cabin Lights

Chris Flack
 

Hello Alexandre

Yes,  on the 24v panel the lower right is on. I have saloon lights but aft cabins have stopped?

Cheers
Chris
Hemera SM031


-----Original Message-----
From: "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Tue, 26 May 2015 10:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Aft Cabin Lights

 

Good afternoon Chris,

Have you checked the 24 vols panel?
http://nikimat.com/diruptor_24_volt_panel.html

Is the lower left disruptor (breaker) ON?

Sincerely, Alexandre

SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Grand Bahama, Bahamas

--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 5/26/15, Chris Flack chris@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Aft Cabin Lights
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Tuesday, May 26, 2015, 3:36 PM


 









Hi All,



We have lost lights only in the aft cabin of our SM. I have
looked for

any circuit breaker for that area but can't find one.
Does anyone out

there have any clues to help me find it as I know they are
all hidden

away in exotic places.



Thanks



Chris

Hemera SM031

Currently in Messina travelling to Southern Spain




Re: Aft Cabin Lights

peacock@...
 

Hi Chris,

My less than perfect memory seem to recall a breaker for the aft lights behind the shower curtain in the aft head.

Tom Peacock
SM2000 Aletes #243


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Aft Cabin Lights

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good afternoon Chris,

Have you checked the 24 vols panel?
http://nikimat.com/diruptor_24_volt_panel.html

Is the lower left disruptor (breaker) ON?

Sincerely, Alexandre

SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Grand Bahama, Bahamas



--------------------------------------------

On Tue, 5/26/15, Chris Flack chris@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Aft Cabin Lights
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Tuesday, May 26, 2015, 3:36 PM


 









Hi All,



We have lost lights only in the aft cabin of our SM. I have
looked for

any circuit breaker for that area but can't find one.
Does anyone out

there have any clues to help me find it as I know they are
all hidden

away in exotic places.



Thanks



Chris

Hemera SM031

Currently in Messina travelling to Southern Spain