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Re: C-Drive
Olivier Beaute
Good morning Will, I understand you caught a rope in your prop, that caused the flex coupling to break. Usually, when a rope gets caught in the prop, it breaks only the flex coupling (unless the shock was hard and stopped the engine...) Did your engine stop because of this rope? When the throttle is in neutral position, does the shaft between the flex coupling and the upper C-drive gearbox rotate (by hand)? When your diver inspected the lower part of the C-drive, could he rotate the prop shaft of half an inch OR could he move the whole drive, sideways, of half-an-inch? The lower part of the C-drive is fastened to the cast iron ballast thanks to a 20mm bolt with stainless steel and hard rubber sleeves. Because of the shock, the rubber sleeve may have been damaged and may need replacement. You should first have the VETUS flex coupling replaced (or maybe only its 4 rubber "donuts" if the aluminum housing and its bolts are not damaged). For this you need to remove the four bolts that secure the engine on its steel cradle, then "slide" the engine backwards. Once the coupling replaced, if the prop shaft is not rotating free, there may be more damages (Inside the C-drive). But let's start with the beginning, as we say in France. Good luck. Olivier |
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] C-Drive
Bad luck, Will. My first guess (maybe more of a hope) would be that the play in the prop shaft is due to the destruction of the lip seals. I sent my entire CDrive to France when I had electrolytic damage to the prop shaft. It took nearly a year to get the boat back in the water. I would first haul her out and have a look at the shaft and seals. If that isn't the only problem, you have to move your engine forward (maybe not if the flexible coupling is destroyed), lift the upper part of the drive out from the engine room, then remove the bolt that secures the lower part of the drive (I think it's called the "foot") to the keel, and lift the foot directly aft. On the forward side of the foot there is a sealed circular area that has to be cut away (it's made of a composite material) to access the gears. Amel tried to repair my old foot, but couldn't get the tolerances to satisfactory specs. I purchased an entire new CDrive and flexible coupling. The re installation was pretty straightforward except for drilling the bolt hole in the new foot. I can send you some pics about how to do that if it comes to that. Feel free to contact me at karkauai AT yahoo DOT com or call 8282346819. You might also want to contact Craig Briggs on Sangaris as he has recently done a similar repair on his boat after the propshaft was bent by poorly positioned lifting strap. Good luck and let us know what you find. Kent SM243 Kristy On Jun 22, 2015, at 5:16 PM, tango708@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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C-Drive
tango708@...
Amel Owners,
I had an incident with my c-drive where mono-filiment became wrapped around the prop and caused excessive vibration in the drive train and shattered the flex coupling. The C-drive appears to be spinning free, but the diver says it has about a half inch of side to side movement. I would like to talk with someone who has replaced a c-drive to determine what I need to do to tighten the unit back up. Regards, Will Stout Anni Bea True SM180 presently in Charleston, SC |
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Mizzen Boom Pully Block
I'm talking to Antal about a custom block, will let you know what they say. Photos would be helpful, thanks. Take one that shows the line going from the block on the mizzen to the on the boom. Kent SM243 Kristy On Jun 21, 2015, at 8:37 PM, sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Kent, I understand now. I will try to remember to take a photo of the blocks on my mizzen boom. The halyard that I use to hoist the motor is also used to lift the passarell off dock. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
That is what I'm talking about, Eric. I guess my description wasn't very clear. I'll try again. I would put the foot blocks on the mizzen boom where the other ones are. My line for raising the dinghy motor doesn't go up from there to a block at the spreaders. It goes directly from the block on the end of the boom to the port mizzen winch, where I can winch it up by hand, or run it over the port mizzen winch and down to the mainsheet winch and raise the outboard with that electric winch. Since the line doesn't live permanently thru a block at the spreaders, I can run the bitter end thru the block at the end of the boom, then back to the mizzen winch.
You could use the same method with the block at the spreaders if you tie a bowline knot in the working end rather than splicing to a shackle. I still don't think that would work well because the top of the block would be in the way of a line leading from the spreaders.
Is that clearer? Kent SM243 Kristy
Sorry, I thought you were speaking about the block on the end of the boom used to lift the outboard. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
I don't have a block at the mizzen spreader, just feed the line to the mizzen winch, or over it and down to the mainsheet winch. I would feed the other end of my line through from the aft end of the block. I have a bridle on one end that fits over the outboard, but nothing on the other end. Wouldn't work if you have a block at the spreaders. |
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Broken Rotary autopilot
sailormon <kimberlite@...>
I am looking for a broken Raymarine autopilot- in fact I am looking for the front cover and output shaft. If you have one or know of one I would appreciate the intel.
Bill- I did try Dan- thanks – but he did not have one. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 3:12 AM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Raymarine repair and Raymarine refurbished instruments
thanks Bill, |
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Re: Raymarine repair and Raymarine refurbished instruments
INUS - BUSCH
thanks Bill,
had some questions concerning ST60+ wind and Dan gave me good informations Dieter Fal-lera Sharki #135 |
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Mizzen Boom Pully Block
sailormon <kimberlite@...>
Kent, I understand now. I will try to remember to take a photo of the blocks on my mizzen boom. The halyard that I use to hoist the motor is also used to lift the passarell off dock. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 11:08 AM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Mizzen Boom Pully Block
That is what I'm talking about, Eric. I guess my description wasn't very clear. I'll try again. I would put the foot blocks on the mizzen boom where the other ones are. My line for raising the dinghy motor doesn't go up from there to a block at the spreaders. It goes directly from the block on the end of the boom to the port mizzen winch, where I can winch it up by hand, or run it over the port mizzen winch and down to the mainsheet winch and raise the outboard with that electric winch. Since the line doesn't live permanently thru a block at the spreaders, I can run the bitter end thru the block at the end of the boom, then back to the mizzen winch.
You could use the same method with the block at the spreaders if you tie a bowline knot in the working end rather than splicing to a shackle. I still don't think that would work well because the top of the block would be in the way of a line leading from the spreaders.
Is that clearer? Kent SM243 Kristy
Sorry, I thought you were speaking about the block on the end of the boom used to lift the outboard. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
I don't have a block at the mizzen spreader, just feed the line to the mizzen winch, or over it and down to the mainsheet winch. I would feed the other end of my line through from the aft end of the block. I have a bridle on one end that fits over the outboard, but nothing on the other end. Wouldn't work if you have a block at the spreaders. |
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Mizzen Boom Pully Block
Hey Trevor. I have to take a line over the current block the way it's set up now. Maybe a few seconds more each time I lift the outboard. Kent On Jun 21, 2015, at 5:25 PM, seafeverofcuan@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Hi Kent, If you did use those foot blocks, would it not be a hassle having to thread the rope through them every time that you want to hoist something? Regards, Trevor Seafever SM 425 Mexico
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New file uploaded to amelyachtowners
amelyachtowners@...
Hello,
This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the amelyachtowners group. File : /Amel Mango/image.jpg Uploaded by : bent_jyllinge <bent_jyllinge@...> Description : New autopilot installed under berth. You can access this file at the URL: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/files/Amel%20Mango/image.jpg To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: https://help.yahoo.com/kb/index?page=content&y=PROD_GRPS&locale=en_US&id=SLN15398 Regards, bent_jyllinge <bent_jyllinge@...> |
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Mizzen Boom Pully Block
seafeverofcuan@...
Hi Kent,
If you did use those foot blocks, would it not be a hassle having to thread the rope through them every time that you want to hoist something? Regards, Trevor Seafever SM 425 Mexico |
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dessalator High Pressure Hoses
That's where mine failed, Alan, then failed again soon afterward at the same fitting. Kent On Jun 21, 2015, at 8:13 AM, divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Interesting...my connectors were OK ...it was their grip on the hose that was the issue, and slicing a cm off the hose and then re-installing the connectors seems to have fixed it. Maybe I'm suffering from false hope, but after 6 months they are still OK... Cheers Alan Elsye SM437 |
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Mizzen Boom Pully Block
That is what I'm talking about, Eric. I guess my description wasn't very clear. I'll try again. I would put the foot blocks on the mizzen boom where the other ones are. My line for raising the dinghy motor doesn't go up from there to a block at the spreaders. It goes directly from the block on the end of the boom to the port mizzen winch, where I can winch it up by hand, or run it over the port mizzen winch and down to the mainsheet winch and raise the outboard with that electric winch. Since the line doesn't live permanently thru a block at the spreaders, I can run the bitter end thru the block at the end of the boom, then back to the mizzen winch. You could use the same method with the block at the spreaders if you tie a bowline knot in the working end rather than splicing to a shackle. I still don't think that would work well because the top of the block would be in the way of a line leading from the spreaders. Is that clearer? Kent SM243 Kristy On Jun 20, 2015, at 11:29 PM, sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Sorry, I thought you were speaking about the block on the end of the boom used to lift the outboard. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
I don't have a block at the mizzen spreader, just feed the line to the mizzen winch, or over it and down to the mainsheet winch. I would feed the other end of my line through from the aft end of the block. I have a bridle on one end that fits over the outboard, but nothing on the other end. Wouldn't work if you have a block at the spreaders. |
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dessalator High Pressure Hoses
Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
Alan, The majority of the failures are exactly as you describe them. You even get early warning with the deterioration of the outside sheath of the hose near the fitting. Bill Rouse
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dessalator High Pressure Hoses
Interesting...my connectors were OK ...it was their grip on the hose that was the issue, and slicing a cm off the hose and then re-installing the connectors seems to have fixed it.
Maybe I'm suffering from false hope, but after 6 months they are still OK... Cheers Alan Elsye SM437 |
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Mizzen Boom Pully Block
sailormon <kimberlite@...>
Sorry, I thought you were speaking about the block on the end of the boom used to lift the outboard. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 9:33 AM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Mizzen Boom Pully Block
I don't have a block at the mizzen spreader, just feed the line to the mizzen winch, or over it and down to the mainsheet winch. I would feed the other end of my line through from the aft end of the block. I have a bridle on one end that fits over the outboard, but nothing on the other end. Wouldn't work if you have a block at the spreaders. |
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dessalator High Pressure Hoses
Ian Shepherd
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I use crimped connectors and they have never failed at the crimp. What has happened is that the threaded end fails after corrosion erodes a small hole in the tapered end fitting allowing water to escape between the barrel of the fitting and the screw cap. I have had better life out of stainless fittings. The plated type will for sure fail sooner. Interestingly I have never had a hose fail like Alan. Only the connectors. I use standard 400 Bar hydraulic rubber hose. Regards Ian Shepherd SM2K Crusader (2003) Larnaca Cyprus On 19/06/2015 14:53, Kent Robertson
karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Looking to buy an Amel Super Maramu!
wolfgang buelow <abora20032003@...>
Dear Jenya, we have a very good SM 2000 red line from 2003 for sale. She is in Spain right now. Are you interested ? Regards Wolfgang Buelow "jenyalwilson@... [amelyachtowners]" schrieb am 23:04 Dienstag, 19.Mai 2015: Hello everyone! My husband and I are looking to buy an Amel Super Maramu 2000-2005. Would also consider late 90's if in good condition. We've been having a real hard time locating one on the West coast of the United States. If anyone here is interested in selling, or knows anyone who might be, please message me. Email: JenyaLano "at" gmail. We can't wait to find our boat and begin our sailing adventures! Thanks so much for your time :) Jenya
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Mizzen Boom Pully Block
I don't have a block at the mizzen spreader, just feed the line to the mizzen winch, or over it and down to the mainsheet winch. I would feed the other end of my line through from the aft end of the block. I have a bridle on one end that fits over the outboard, but nothing on the other end. Wouldn't work if you have a block at the spreaders.
If possible, it would be nice to be able to use the axle of the sheave as a third connection point, eliminating the inside bolt head as a source of galvanic corrosion. Otherwise a thin sheet of nylon or delrin (?SP) between the block and the boom would suffice. I'm going to contact Antal and ask them if they think this block would work for this application. Does anyone have a pic of the Amel mizzen block that I could send them? Kent SM243 Kristy |
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Mizzen Boom Pully Block
sailormon <kimberlite@...>
Hi Kent, How do you propose getting the shackle in and out of the block? Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 7:47 AM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Mizzen Boom Pully Block
Hi Eric, I'm looking at the smaller Antal Tulip Foot Block, model #819-060. Kent
Kent, What model of antal block are you ordering? Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Maybe a thin layer of nylon could be placed between the block and the boom? I think I'll order one of the foot blocks and see if I can make it work. Kent
Kent, The block that Amel used on Kimberlite seems to have been a fiddle block with the swivel removed and the end sheave removed. I have looked at many blocks to replace mine however I find one problem with all of them. The original block has the stainless strap holding the block together recessed in plastic so there is no metal against the boom. Every other block I have seen so far has either metal or rivet heads sticking out from the block. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Kent, Those foot blocks are the nearest thing that I have seen. The blocks on Seafever are Anatal and original,still in good condition. I think Eric mentioned that Amel had probably modified them. Best regards, Trevor Seafever SM425 Mexico |
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Mizzen Boom Pully Block
Hi Eric, I'm looking at the smaller Antal Tulip Foot Block, model #819-060. Kent On Jun 15, 2015, at 11:32 PM, sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Kent, What model of antal block are you ordering? Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Maybe a thin layer of nylon could be placed between the block and the boom? I think I'll order one of the foot blocks and see if I can make it work. Kent
Kent, The block that Amel used on Kimberlite seems to have been a fiddle block with the swivel removed and the end sheave removed. I have looked at many blocks to replace mine however I find one problem with all of them. The original block has the stainless strap holding the block together recessed in plastic so there is no metal against the boom. Every other block I have seen so far has either metal or rivet heads sticking out from the block. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Kent, Those foot blocks are the nearest thing that I have seen. The blocks on Seafever are Anatal and original,still in good condition. I think Eric mentioned that Amel had probably modified them. Best regards, Trevor Seafever SM425 Mexico |
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