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Re: Autohelm ST7000 will not leave Standby

Craig Briggs
 

HI Eamonn,

I have just replaced mine and have the old equipment available - please see private email I sent you.

Cheers,
Craig Briggs
SN#68 Sangaris, Ft Lauderdale


---In amelyachtowners@..., <eamonn.washington@...> wrote :

Hi

I have been following the forum for 6 months in preparation for buying our Super Maramu, #151.  Here is my first post, after our 2 week shakedown cruise!

The Autohelm ST7000 worked for an hour but since then failed to leave "Standby".  The rudder angle appears correctly.  Wires seem OK.  Also noteworthy to mention is that the original GPS display also fails to switch on, and it is connected to the SeaTalk bus.

I guess I should replace the GPS anyway.  I guess the ST7000 should be able to work without it (I can't figure out why it would need the GPS in the first place, Fluxgate and Rudder should be enough?).

I read all references in this forum to ST7000 but not being able to leave standby was never mentioned.  Any suggestions?

Eamonn
SM #151
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Autohelm ST7000 will not leave Standby

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

JP,

Not to be a smartass, but WD40 is conductive and while it may work temporarily as you used it, you stand a very good chance of causing a short especially between two rows of  circuitboard flux.

On the other hand, there is a great product manufactured in Texas that works perfectly. Originally created to fight airline metallurgical corrosion, CorrosionX is non-conductive, but substantially increases conductivity between metals at a molecular level. Since it is non-conductive, it is safe to transport by air in the non-aresol pump bottle. Don't confuse this with CorrosionBlock...different company and different product.

And lastly, the guy I mentioned earlier, Dan Gerhardt rebuilds these Raymarine control heads with new parts for a fraction of the original cost. He also sells rebuilt older Raymarine parts.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+39 333 121 8115 Italy Mobile
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On Jul 2, 2015 9:55 AM, "Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I've had a 7000 stick on my previous boat.  I traced the problem down to the controls on the facia.  This is the result of sun exposure causing the rubber membranes to crack and leak salt h2o onto the underlying board.

I found that WD40 sprayed on the crevices could re establish he contacts... For a while!

The solution is replacing the 7000... At considerable cost.

Jean-Pierre Germain
Eleuthera, SM007


On 2 Jul 2015, at 00:16, peacock@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

We have had similar problems with our 7000; the problem is intermittent; I sometimes can solve it by rapid (or rabid) pressing of various orange buttons on the control, which usually will get it working. We have also had it stick in the active mode, and can only break out by throwing the breaker.


My sense was that the contacts under the orange keys may be corroded; the SeaTalk bus could also be at fault.

Considering the age of the unit (16 years), and it's worthiness on a long voyage, we are replacing with Raymarine EV-400 and multifunction display (which can communicate your desired course with the auto helm). Total purchase price $3,550 US. Peace of mind, priceless.

Tom Peacock
SM2K #240
Rock Hall, MD
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Autohelm ST7000 will not leave Standby

Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
 

I chose the EV400... To augment my 7000.  It still works well..

Jean-Pierre Germain
Eleuthera, SM 007


On 2 Jul 2015, at 08:49, eamonn.washington@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Thanks Tom

my next question was going to be what is the most suitable kit to replace it with.  I am still hoping that the original (20 year old) st7000 could be made to work, then keep it as a backup and install a second independent one.

Eamonn
SM #151
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Autohelm ST7000 will not leave Standby

Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
 

I've had a 7000 stick on my previous boat.  I traced the problem down to the controls on the facia.  This is the result of sun exposure causing the rubber membranes to crack and leak salt h2o onto the underlying board.

I found that WD40 sprayed on the crevices could re establish he contacts... For a while!

The solution is replacing the 7000... At considerable cost.

Jean-Pierre Germain
Eleuthera, SM007


On 2 Jul 2015, at 00:16, peacock@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

We have had similar problems with our 7000; the problem is intermittent; I sometimes can solve it by rapid (or rabid) pressing of various orange buttons on the control, which usually will get it working. We have also had it stick in the active mode, and can only break out by throwing the breaker.


My sense was that the contacts under the orange keys may be corroded; the SeaTalk bus could also be at fault.

Considering the age of the unit (16 years), and it's worthiness on a long voyage, we are replacing with Raymarine EV-400 and multifunction display (which can communicate your desired course with the auto helm). Total purchase price $3,550 US. Peace of mind, priceless.

Tom Peacock
SM2K #240
Rock Hall, MD
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Autohelm ST7000 will not leave Standby

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

The Raymarine control heads (st7000 AND 7001+) and the course computer as well as the fluxgate compass and the rudder reference can be successfully refurbished.

Several of us have recently had good experience with Dan Gerhardt. His prices are great and his service superb. I have used him internationally.

dan"at"mydurango.net repairing Raymarine products and/or buying refurbished Raymarine instruments.

Bill
BeBe #387

On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 7:49 AM, eamonn.washington@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thanks Tom

my next question was going to be what is the most suitable kit to replace it with.  I am still hoping that the original (20 year old) st7000 could be made to work, then keep it as a backup and install a second independent one.

Eamonn
SM #151
Re: Autohelm ST7000 will not leave Standby

eamonn.washington@...
 

Thanks Tom

my next question was going to be what is the most suitable kit to replace it with.  I am still hoping that the original (20 year old) st7000 could be made to work, then keep it as a backup and install a second independent one.

Eamonn
SM #151
Re: Autohelm ST7000 will not leave Standby

peacock@...
 

We have had similar problems with our 7000; the problem is intermittent; I sometimes can solve it by rapid (or rabid) pressing of various orange buttons on the control, which usually will get it working. We have also had it stick in the active mode, and can only break out by throwing the breaker.

My sense was that the contacts under the orange keys may be corroded; the SeaTalk bus could also be at fault.

Considering the age of the unit (16 years), and it's worthiness on a long voyage, we are replacing with Raymarine EV-400 and multifunction display (which can communicate your desired course with the auto helm). Total purchase price $3,550 US. Peace of mind, priceless.

Tom Peacock
SM2K #240
Rock Hall, MD
Autohelm ST7000 will not leave Standby

eamonn.washington@...
 

Hi

I have been following the forum for 6 months in preparation for buying our Super Maramu, #151.  Here is my first post, after our 2 week shakedown cruise!

The Autohelm ST7000 worked for an hour but since then failed to leave "Standby".  The rudder angle appears correctly.  Wires seem OK.  Also noteworthy to mention is that the original GPS display also fails to switch on, and it is connected to the SeaTalk bus.

I guess I should replace the GPS anyway.  I guess the ST7000 should be able to work without it (I can't figure out why it would need the GPS in the first place, Fluxgate and Rudder should be enough?).

I read all references in this forum to ST7000 but not being able to leave standby was never mentioned.  Any suggestions?

Eamonn
SM #151
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Safety bars on hatches.

Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
 

Hello Alexandre,

Thank you for the reference.  I will look into it…

Cheers,

Jean-Pierre Germain
SY Eleuthera, SM007



On 1 Jul 2015, at 16:18, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Good morning Jean Pierre,

Here is what I purchased:
http://nikimat.com/hatches_safety_bars.html
I like them because they are removable and heavy duty, they will discourage the random thief.
But they are very heavy.
Back in May 2013 they cost $405 from www.swi-tec.us

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT

--------------------------------------------
On Wed, 7/1/15, Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Safety bars on hatches.
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2015, 7:33 AM


 









Hi Gang,



We are in the process of installing safety bars on the
hatches; the Admiral insists.



I recall seeing a removable design which made a lot of
sense. However, after searching, I found nothing.



Can someone help?



Jean-Pierre Germain

SY Eleuthera, SM007













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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Safety bars on hatches.

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning Jean Pierre,

Here is what I purchased:
http://nikimat.com/hatches_safety_bars.html
I like them because they are removable and heavy duty, they will discourage the random thief.
But they are very heavy.
Back in May 2013 they cost $405 from www.swi-tec.us

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT


--------------------------------------------

On Wed, 7/1/15, Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Safety bars on hatches.
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2015, 7:33 AM


 









Hi Gang,



We are in the process of installing safety bars on the
hatches; the Admiral insists.



I recall seeing a removable design which made a lot of
sense. However, after searching, I found nothing.



Can someone help?



Jean-Pierre Germain

SY Eleuthera, SM007
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Safety bars on hatches.

Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
 

Hi Gang,

We are in the process of installing safety bars on the hatches; the Admiral insists.

I recall seeing a removable design which made a lot of sense. However, after searching, I found nothing.

Can someone help?

Jean-Pierre Germain
SY Eleuthera, SM007
Re: SSB HF Antenna

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Hi Derick:

Last year I replaced my original Amel supplied SSB antenna because the lower section had a crack along it's entire length and the plastic ball mount had broken and been repaired with structural adhesive twice (aging plastic).  My replacement was a Shakespeare SSB antenna with a 1 inch 14-thread per inch female mount on the bottom.  I purchased one of these:    http://shakespeare-ce.com/marine/product/410-r-swivel-mount-mounting-kit/   to mount it but I didn't want to drill holes in the deck to match the mounting plate.  I disassembled the above kit, drilled a slightly larger hole in the existing Amel rectangular aluminum base mount and assembled the SS 1 inch 14-thread per inch swivel onto the aluminum base using nylon isolation washers to prevent dissimilar metal corrosion.  It is way stronger than the original, isn't plastic so it won't age in that way, and I didn't have to drill new holes in the deck.  The antenna also mounts and dismounts (just unscrews) much more easily as I take the antenna down to stow below decks while on the hard for hurricane season. 

All the best, 

Gary Silver
s/v Liahona   on the Hard in Puerto Del Rey, Puerto Rico 
Amel SM #335
 
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SSB HF Antenna

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning Derick & Bill,

Not sure I am talking about the same thing, but I thought the Antenna mount were from Marcucci: parts 5795426 and 5795425
Haven’t find a place to source them either.

Sincerely, Alexandre



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On Sat, 6/27/15, derickgates@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SSB HF Antenna
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Saturday, June 27, 2015, 11:39 AM


 









Bill,
It
appears that Banten, the manufacturing source for these
mounts, is in Italy.  However their website indicates that
they only sell through retailers.  They then fail to
indicate who their distributors are!  I am tempted to sign
up as a retailer. Perhaps you can find a local distributor
while you are still in Italy?  I am looking for sources of
both the ball mount and the mid-antenna rail clip (parts
00015 and 00020) online without success.  I don't need
them until November when I splash Brava again in Antigua.
 If you find a distributor I will gladly buy them off you
when you reach the Caribbean again.   Otherwise I need to
investigate alternatives.  
The Shakespeare mount and (rail
clip) that Gary Silver found may have the same size screw
threads (1 inch - 14 standard) to fit the base of the Banten
7 meter whip antenna but I will seek confirmation of that.
 I have brought the broken ball fitting back with me to
Massachusetts to attempt to find a match.  I'll let you
know if I am successful.
I would love to finally meet you and
Judy when you get to the Caribbean.  Between BeBe's
blog and your generous Amel group postings you have both
been very inspirational and a major factor in bringing me up
to speed. 
Derick
SM2K #400 BravaCurrently
on the hard in Antigua









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Re: Generator/Shorepower Transfer Switch

luvkante
 

Thank you Kent!
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Generator/Shorepower Transfer Switch

Kent Robertson
 

Martin,
On most SMs, it is above the generator, and marked "220Volts".
Kent
SM243
Kristy


On Jun 28, 2015, at 11:41 AM, luvkante@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Mark,

Where is that box located?

Martin
S/V CHIARA
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] ISOLATION OF YANMAR 4JH4-HTE - OLDER MARAMU

Kent Robertson
 

Alex,
When I get mine isolated and can confirm that it works as advertised, I'll post all the necessary parts, photos, and description of the process.

In the meantime, I'd recommend that you get a reference electrode and check your hull potential with and without your engine and genset running. Here's one at BoatZincs:
http://www.boatzincs.com/corrosion-reference-electrode.html

On our Amels, with the reference electrode in the water and connected to the negative post of your multimeter, and the positive electrode of your multimeter on your bonding system, your hull potential should read between -900 and -1050mV. If it is more positive (less negative, say -700mV) you are under protected and should look for a source of electric current leak. If you get a reading more negative (say -1200mV), you are over protected and can have problems with bottom paint or other issues less dramatic than electrolytic damage to your prop shaft or thru-hulls.

All metal exposed to saltwater should read the same potential if they are properly bonded to the zincs. If not, check the connections of your bonding system.

More in a week or two (I hope),
Kent
SM243
Kristy
Re: Generator/Shorepower Transfer Switch

luvkante
 

Mark,

Where is that box located?

Martin
S/V CHIARA
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] ISOLATION OF YANMAR 4JH4-HTE - OLDER MARAMU

Alejandro Paquin
 

Kent, thanks for your response, yes, it is a Yanmar 110 4JH4HTE, I know it may be a little too much but we were offered this by Yanmar in Venezuela, they only had two engines and it was an exceptionally good price.
By the way, no one in Yanmar we contacted could answser our questions either on isolation issues nor freewheeling of the transmission. The US people would not  talk to us because the boat was not in the USA.
In any case, obviously, our installation in not isolated and would not know what to do from this point. It seems pretty complicated, especially because of the lack of information on the subject and lack of parts and lack of cooperation from the manufacturer. So on our boat, now ground is also negative. Unfortunately until we solve this issue.
Alex 
Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: SSB HF Antenna

Peter Forbes
 

In case it helps - POCHON in the French port of Hyères has just fitted a 7 m antenna with base socket and rail bracket to my Amel 54 - I don't know if it is the same. Pochon are electrical sub contractors to Amel Mediterranean.

Peter Forbes
Carango Amel 54 # 035
Saint Mandrier
France


On 27 Jun 2015, at 18:39, derickgates@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Bill,


It appears that Banten, the manufacturing source for these mounts, is in Italy.  However their website indicates that they only sell through retailers.  They then fail to indicate who their distributors are!  I am tempted to sign up as a retailer. Perhaps you can find a local distributor while you are still in Italy?  I am looking for sources of both the ball mount and the mid-antenna rail clip (parts 00015 and 00020) online without success.  I don't need them until November when I splash Brava again in Antigua.  If you find a distributor I will gladly buy them off you when you reach the Caribbean again.   Otherwise I need to investigate alternatives.  

The Shakespeare mount and (rail clip) that Gary Silver found may have the same size screw threads (1 inch - 14 standard) to fit the base of the Banten 7 meter whip antenna but I will seek confirmation of that.  I have brought the broken ball fitting back with me to Massachusetts to attempt to find a match.  I'll let you know if I am successful.

I would love to finally meet you and Judy when you get to the Caribbean.  Between BeBe's blog and your generous Amel group postings you have both been very inspirational and a major factor in bringing me up to speed. 

Derick

SM2K #400 Brava
Currently on the hard in Antigua
Re: SSB HF Antenna

Derick Gates SM2K #400 Brava
 

Bill,

It appears that Banten, the manufacturing source for these mounts, is in Italy.  However their website indicates that they only sell through retailers.  They then fail to indicate who their distributors are!  I am tempted to sign up as a retailer. Perhaps you can find a local distributor while you are still in Italy?  I am looking for sources of both the ball mount and the mid-antenna rail clip (parts 00015 and 00020) online without success.  I don't need them until November when I splash Brava again in Antigua.  If you find a distributor I will gladly buy them off you when you reach the Caribbean again.   Otherwise I need to investigate alternatives.  

The Shakespeare mount and (rail clip) that Gary Silver found may have the same size screw threads (1 inch - 14 standard) to fit the base of the Banten 7 meter whip antenna but I will seek confirmation of that.  I have brought the broken ball fitting back with me to Massachusetts to attempt to find a match.  I'll let you know if I am successful.

I would love to finally meet you and Judy when you get to the Caribbean.  Between BeBe's blog and your generous Amel group postings you have both been very inspirational and a major factor in bringing me up to speed. 

Derick

SM2K #400 Brava
Currently on the hard in Antigua
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