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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Arc for solarpanels and dinghy

Alan Leslie
 

Hello,

I would like to see some pics of this...'

Just click on Photos at the top of the page and you can post them
Cheers
Alan
SV Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Arc for solarpanels and dinghy

Alan Leslie
 

Hello all,

Our arch was installed last week...no issues..the fabrication quality is excellent, and the fit was perfect.
 I will try to upload some photos....

Cheers 
Alan
SV Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Arc for solarpanels and dinghy

Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
 

Hello Gang,

The newest version is now installed on Eleuthera.  Emek designed removable diagonal brace bars to add lateral rigidity to the structure during heavy weather.  They machine/install a new female receptacle for the centerline stanchion base at the edge of the fantail.  From there, the brace bars attach to welded eyes at the top of the port/starboard forward posts of the gantry.

Looks good and purposeful.  Easy to remove for eased entry/exit at anchor.  These bars are stored in the aft lazarette (when not in use) above a purposely designed rack which includes the emergency steering gear components. (Now accessible if needed.. instead of corroding at the bottom of the lazarette.)  (The Jordan Sea Drogue is located below the rack and attached to the vertical face of the lazarette… easy to deploy.)

How can I post a pic or two?

Cheers,


Jean-Pierre Germain
SY Eleuthera SM007


On 12 Feb 2015, at 10:33, mausi@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Thank all of you for the contact datas.

I will get in touch with Riza. It seems that there are a lot of SM´s with a similar back. Made in turkey :)

Best and many thanks,
Peter
Crete



Re: Arc for solarpanels and dinghy

Peter
 

Thank all of you for the contact datas.

I will get in touch with Riza. It seems that there are a lot of SM´s with a similar back. Made in turkey :)

Best and many thanks,
Peter
Crete


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Arc for solarpanels and dinghy

Colin - ex SV Island Pearl
 

Hi Peter

A number of us have been in touch with Riza since seeing the nice job he did for Bill on BeBe. I have ordered one and it should be delivered in the next 2 weeks all the way to Brisbane Australia at a competitive price even after freight from Turkey to Australia. Also I am aware that Alan (M/V Elyses) has done the same and that was delivered to him in New Zealand just 2 weeks back and he is delighted with the quality too. Both he and I will have 3 x 200w solar panels mounted so can't wait to get that free current coming through to our batteries.

Riza has been an absolute pleasure to deal with and is highly recommended to all on this site. I have copied his contact details here below for you to get in touch with him. Please note I am not associated with him in any way, just recommended him based on the experience of others and his dealings with myself. The davit arch comes ready to fit to the stern of your Amel with all bolts and everything so you could do it yourself with perhaps just a little help from a local machine shop.  Good luck with it.

Colin & Lauren Streeter
Island Pearl II, 2001 SM#332
Mackay, Australia


RIZA CAGDAS CAKIR

Chief Operating Officer

Website: www.emekmarin.com

email: cagdas@...


Address:

Cumhuriyet Mah. Deniz Temiz Blv. No: 4 zemin kat No: 3 48310 Gocek/Mugla/Turkey


phone: +90 252 645 2468

fax: +90 252 645 2899

mobile: +90 532 495 6539



 

 


Address:

Cumhuriyet Mah. Deniz Temiz Blv. No: 4 zemin kat No: 3 48310 Gocek/Mugla/Turkey

 

phone: +90 252 645 2468

fax: +90 252 645 2899

mobile: +90 532 495 6539

 

 









On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 5:54 PM, mausi@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thanks Hanspeter,

Göcek is just around the corner since Iam in greece. Could you provide the contact datas please. my mail adress is: mausi@...

Thank you very much,
Peter




--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Arc for solarpanels and dinghy

Peter
 

Thanks Hanspeter,

Göcek is just around the corner since Iam in greece. Could you provide the contact datas please. my mail adress is: mausi@...

Thank you very much,
Peter


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Arc for solarpanels and dinghy

hanspeter baettig
 

Hi Peter
You can buy it from Emek Marina, Riza, Göcek, Turkey. He can send it worldwide (Out of the box)
Can provide you his adress if needed
Regards
Hanspeter
SM16, Tamango 2
Fethiye, Turkey
Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 12.02.2015 um 08:23 schrieb "mausi@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

Hello,

some days ago I have seen a photo of Be-Be with a nice arc on the back (and Bill standing on the gangway). I would like to add a similar arc too. Do we have blueprints for an arc like this or is there a source where this arc can be bought out of the box?

Best,
Peter


Arc for solarpanels and dinghy

Peter
 

Hello,

some days ago I have seen a photo of Be-Be with a nice arc on the back (and Bill standing on the gangway). I would like to add a similar arc too. Do we have blueprints for an arc like this or is there a source where this arc can be bought out of the box?

Best,
Peter


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Miami Boat Show, Strictly Sail

karkauai
 

I'd love to be there Joel, still haven't seen a 55 up close yet.  Unfortunately I'm still up to my neck in electrical and engine/drive issues.  Making slow but steady progress and learning a lot about my boat.  Still a newbie after 6 years...
Thanks again for all your help on this forum and with my problems in particular.  When I finally get down to Ft L I'd like to treat you to dinner or a cocktail.
Steady as she goes.
Kent
SM 243
Kristy


On Feb 11, 2015, at 8:09 PM, Vela jfpottercys@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Dear Amel Yacht Owners Group,
We are forwarding a press release that you can also find on AMEL'S website.  We hope to see you at the Miami Boat Show on RENAISSANCE, our North American Demonstration boat.
All the best Joel & Vela

Strictly Sail Miami Boat Show - 12 - 16 February

AMEL 55 Cabriolet will be exhibited from 12 to 16 February at the Strictly Sail Miami boat show.

STRICTLY SAIL MIAMI AT MIAMARINA AT BAYSIDE

400 Biscayne Blvd - Miami, FL  33132
open daily 10 AM to 6 PM

Link to the boat show website :

http://www.miamiboatshow.com/show-info

For more information, please contact our local agent: 

Joel F. Potter Cruising Yacht Specialist, LLC, ph.: +1 954 462 5869, email : jfpottercys@...

AMEL contact at the show too :  Antoine Rioton, Sales manager, ph. +33.682.55.98.80, email : commercial@...



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Prop Shaft Electrolysis

sailormon <kimberlite@...>
 

Kent,

I used to build race engines, was an electrical engineer- that coupled with being a Jeweler—it is a curse as I look at everything with a jewelers eye.

 

With respect to the senders, I have had to replace a few over the last 12 years on my Amel.

 

I also rebuilt my tartan 37 from the through hulls up with my own hands.

Every nut bolt and screw was replaced on that boat, electrical, plumbing, rigging, engine,(the non turbo of our model) ,everything was replaced. It is the feature boat in the Tartan-37 Book about 30% of the pages are of my old Kimberlite.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite SM 376

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 9:47 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Prop Shaft Electrolysis

 

 

How do you know all this stuff, Eric?  You guys never cease to amaze me.  Great info, thanks.  I'll call them tomorrow.

Kent


On Feb 11, 2015, at 7:26 PM, sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

If my memory serves me correctly the gauges with the dual pole sensors that I have are made my VDO. I am sure you can remove the oil pressure sender and on the base of the sender there is a nut built into it. If you look carefully it will have the pressure range that the sender is for. You can pick this up at any auto parts store with dual leads. The threads are USA npt.

 

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite SM 376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 2:20 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Prop Shaft Electrolysis

 

 

Wow, I haven't even had a chance to look for them yet!  Thanks Derick.  I'll check it out later this evening.

Bill finds his part number and Derick finds it for me!!!  Y'all are amazing !

 

Bill, what Yanmar do you have?  I'm guessing it's the 100 HP originally installed by Amel?  I have to make sure it'll work on my 4JH4HTE.  Now only six more sensors and an isolated alternator and I'm golden.

 

Kent

SM243

Kristy


On Feb 11, 2015, at 11:31 AM, derickgates@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Kent,

 

Ebay has one of Bill's two lead sender unit parts at:

 

YANMAR 126630-91560 SENDER UNIT 119773-91520

 

Derick

 

SM2K#400 Brava

 


 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Prop Shaft Electrolysis

karkauai
 

How do you know all this stuff, Eric?  You guys never cease to amaze me.  Great info, thanks.  I'll call them tomorrow.
Kent


On Feb 11, 2015, at 7:26 PM, sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

If my memory serves me correctly the gauges with the dual pole sensors that I have are made my VDO. I am sure you can remove the oil pressure sender and on the base of the sender there is a nut built into it. If you look carefully it will have the pressure range that the sender is for. You can pick this up at any auto parts store with dual leads. The threads are USA npt.

 

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite SM 376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 2:20 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Prop Shaft Electrolysis

 

 

Wow, I haven't even had a chance to look for them yet!  Thanks Derick.  I'll check it out later this evening.

Bill finds his part number and Derick finds it for me!!!  Y'all are amazing !

 

Bill, what Yanmar do you have?  I'm guessing it's the 100 HP originally installed by Amel?  I have to make sure it'll work on my 4JH4HTE.  Now only six more sensors and an isolated alternator and I'm golden.

 

Kent

SM243

Kristy


On Feb 11, 2015, at 11:31 AM, derickgates@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Kent,

 

Ebay has one of Bill's two lead sender unit parts at:

 

YANMAR 126630-91560 SENDER UNIT 119773-91520

 

Derick

 

SM2K#400 Brava

 


 


Miami Boat Show, Strictly Sail

amelforme
 

Dear Amel Yacht Owners Group,
We are forwarding a press release that you can also find on AMEL'S website.  We hope to see you at the Miami Boat Show on RENAISSANCE, our North American Demonstration boat.
All the best Joel & Vela

Strictly Sail Miami Boat Show - 12 - 16 February

AMEL 55 Cabriolet will be exhibited from 12 to 16 February at the Strictly Sail Miami boat show.

STRICTLY SAIL MIAMI AT MIAMARINA AT BAYSIDE

400 Biscayne Blvd - Miami, FL  33132
open daily 10 AM to 6 PM

Link to the boat show website :

http://www.miamiboatshow.com/show-info

For more information, please contact our local agent: 

Joel F. Potter Cruising Yacht Specialist, LLC, ph.: +1 954 462 5869, email : jfpottercys@...

AMEL contact at the show too :  Antoine Rioton, Sales manager, ph. +33.682.55.98.80, email : commercial@...



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Prop Shaft Electrolysis

sailormon <kimberlite@...>
 

Check with Mack boring – the yanmar distributors for the northeast USA.

1-800-mack eng.

Fair Winds

Eric

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 7:22 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Prop Shaft Electrolysis

 

 

Thank you Eric.  I thought that had to be the case, but the guru at Mastry (the U.S. Yanmar contact) has told my electrical engineer that no isolated sensors  are available.  They must be made by someone other than Yanmar.

If anyone knows where to get them, please let me know.

Thanks again,

Kent



On Feb 10, 2015, at 8:36 PM, sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Kent,

The Yanmar and Onan have a separate Negative from the rest of the boat as they have a separate battery. I have not looked at the 12 alternator but the negative lead from the start battery is only connected to my boat when the engine starts. Yes, isolated ground senders are available as I have them on my engine, if you have separate oil and temp gauges, they are also available with an isolated ground.

Sorry I am not on the boat to send you photos.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite SM 376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 8:20 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Prop Shaft Electrolysis

 

 

Hi Eric,

I haven't gotten an answer from Yanmar.  Have been told to take the boat to Wards Electric in Ft Lauderdale.  Do you know if it's possible to get isolated sensors, starter, and alternator for Yanmar engines?  Olivier says I can leave it as is and add a galvanic isolator.  I will also add a hull potential meter so I can monitor for leaks.

Kent


On Feb 9, 2015, at 10:46 PM, sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Kent,

The sensors for the Yamaha should all be isolated ground sensors with 2 wires on each. If your sensors have one wire they use the block as a ground ( battery -) and are the wrong sensors. Amel did a lot to isolate the engine from the DC negative.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite SM 376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2015 1:06 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Prop Shaft Electrolysis

 

 

I'm still not sure how to connect the electrical systems of my non-isolated Yanmar 4JH4HTE to avoid electrolytic issues in the future.  The consensus here seems to be that the bonding system should have no connections to the 220, 24, or 12V grounds.  The starter, 12V alternator, and sensors (temp, oil pressure, etc) are grounded to the engine block.  I'm still checking with Yanmar to see if isolated starter, alternator, and sensors are available, but I don't think they are...so I can't isolate the engine block (and thus the Cdrive) from the bonding system without having a connection to the 12V battery negative post.
Should I leave the engine connected to both the bonding system and the 12V negative pole (thus leaving the transmission and Cdrive connected through the engine)?

I've looked for a bonding wire to the generator, and don't see one.  I remember Eric's description of the genset as having a "floating ground" (or something like that, can't find it now).  Does that mean that the generator is not connected to the bonding system?  If so, then the small zinc in the raw water system is all that is protecting the generator from galvanic (or electrolytic) damage?

Going bald,
Kent
SM243
Kristy


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Prop Shaft Electrolysis

sailormon <kimberlite@...>
 

If my memory serves me correctly the gauges with the dual pole sensors that I have are made my VDO. I am sure you can remove the oil pressure sender and on the base of the sender there is a nut built into it. If you look carefully it will have the pressure range that the sender is for. You can pick this up at any auto parts store with dual leads. The threads are USA npt.

 

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite SM 376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 2:20 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Prop Shaft Electrolysis

 

 

Wow, I haven't even had a chance to look for them yet!  Thanks Derick.  I'll check it out later this evening.

Bill finds his part number and Derick finds it for me!!!  Y'all are amazing !

 

Bill, what Yanmar do you have?  I'm guessing it's the 100 HP originally installed by Amel?  I have to make sure it'll work on my 4JH4HTE.  Now only six more sensors and an isolated alternator and I'm golden.

 

Kent

SM243

Kristy


On Feb 11, 2015, at 11:31 AM, derickgates@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Kent,

 

Ebay has one of Bill's two lead sender unit parts at:

 

YANMAR 126630-91560 SENDER UNIT 119773-91520

 

Derick

 

SM2K#400 Brava

 


 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Prop Shaft Electrolysis

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Kent,

BeBe is a 2003 SM #387 with a 100hp Turbo Yanmar Model 4JH3-HTE, Sn# E21642

Bill
BeBe

On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Wow, I haven't even had a chance to look for them yet!  Thanks Derick.  I'll check it out later this evening.
Bill finds his part number and Derick finds it for me!!!  Y'all are amazing !

Bill, what Yanmar do you have?  I'm guessing it's the 100 HP originally installed by Amel?  I have to make sure it'll work on my 4JH4HTE.  Now only six more sensors and an isolated alternator and I'm golden.

Kent
SM243
Kristy


On Feb 11, 2015, at 11:31 AM, derickgates@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Kent,

 

Ebay has one of Bill's two lead sender unit parts at:

 

YANMAR 126630-91560 SENDER UNIT 119773-91520

 

Derick

 

SM2K#400 Brava

 


 



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Prop Shaft Electrolysis

karkauai
 

Hi again, all,
I'm looking at my charger/inverter again to figure out just how it's connected.  I'm a bit confused by the selector switch that chooses 220AC from shore power over the inverter.  It's marked K2 on the electrical schematics.  I'm guessing that it is the pass-through switch that's integral to the inverter?
Thanks
Kent
SM 243
Kristy


On Feb 11, 2015, at 12:23 PM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Kent,

The original sensor was 2 wire as well as the new one.

Bill
BeBe 387

On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thanks, Bill,
Yes, the electrical schematics for the Yanmar show the sensors grounded where they screw into the block, and they indeed have only one wire.

Was your old sensor also a two wire isolated one?  I guess your gauges/idiot lights continued to work properly with the new sensor?  The mechanic at my yard says that if you change sensors, you often have to change gauges, too.

I'll have a look at the part you cite and see what I can find out.  Wish I could get an answer from Yanmar that makes sense.

Kent
SM243
Kristy


From: "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
To: "amelyachtowners@..." htowners@...>
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Prop Shaft Electrolysis

 
Kent,

When I was in Puerto La Cruz, Venezuela about 7 or 8 years ago, I bought a new oil pressure sensor from the Yanmar distributor there. It had two wire terminal and I believe it was Yanmar part number 119773-91520. 

I am thinking that all Yanmar replacement sensors/senders are two terminal types which probably are isolated ground.

I cannot find where Yanmar makes 2 different sensors/senders...only one, and I am 99% sure it is 2 wire. And, I believe that since Yanmar does understand isolated grounding, these 2 wire sensors are isolated ground.

Did you check your sensors for 1 wire or 2 wires?

I hope this helps, more than it confuses.

Bill
BeBe 387


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On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 6:21 AM, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
Thank you Eric.  I thought that had to be the case, but the guru at Mastry (the U.S. Yanmar contact) has told my electrical engineer that no isolated sensors  are available.  They must be made by someone other than Yanmar.
If anyone knows where to get them, please let me know.
Thanks again,
Kent


On Feb 10, 2015, at 8:36 PM, sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 
Kent,
The Yanmar and Onan have a separate Negative from the rest of the boat as they have a separate battery. I have not looked at the 12 alternator but the negative lead from the start battery is only connected to my boat when the engine starts. Yes, isolated ground senders are available as I have them on my engine, if you have separate oil and temp gauges, they are also available with an isolated ground.
Sorry I am not on the boat to send you photos.
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite SM 376
 
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyach towners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 8:20 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Prop Shaft Electrolysis
 
 
Hi Eric,
I haven't gotten an answer from Yanmar.  Have been told to take the boat to Wards Electric in Ft Lauderdale.  Do you know if it's possible to get isolated sensors, starter, and alternator for Yanmar engines?  Olivier says I can leave it as is and add a galvanic isolator.  I will also add a hull pote ntial meter so I can monitor for leaks.
Kent


On Feb 9, 2015, at 10:46 PM, sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
Kent,
The sensors for the Yamaha should all be isolated ground sensors with 2 wires on each. If your sensors have one wire they use the block as a ground ( battery -) and are the wrong sensors. Amel did a lot to isolate the engine from the DC negative.
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite SM 376
 
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2015 1:06 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Prop Shaft Electrolysis
 
 
I'm still not sure how to connect the electrical systems of my non-isolated Yanmar 4JH4HTE to avoid electrolytic issues in the future.  The consensus here seems to be that the bonding system should have no connections to the 220, 24, or 12V grounds.  The starter, 12V alternator, and sensors (temp, oil pressure, etc) are grounded to the engine block.  I'm still checking with Yanmar to see if isolated starter, alternator, and sensors are available, but I don't think they are...so I can't isolate the engine block (and thus the Cdrive) from the bonding system without having a connection to the 12V battery negative post.
Should I leave the engine connected to both the bonding system and the 12V negative pole (thus leaving the transmission and Cdrive connected through the engine)?

I've looked for a bonding wire to the generator, and don't see one.  I remember Eric's description of the genset as having a "floating ground" (or something like that, can't find it now).  Does that mean that the generator is not connected to the bonding system?  If so, then the small zinc in the raw water system is all that is protecting the generator from galvanic (or electrolytic) damage?

Going bald,
Kent
SM243
Kristy





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Prop Shaft Electrolysis

karkauai
 

Wow, I haven't even had a chance to look for them yet!  Thanks Derick.  I'll check it out later this evening.
Bill finds his part number and Derick finds it for me!!!  Y'all are amazing !

Bill, what Yanmar do you have?  I'm guessing it's the 100 HP originally installed by Amel?  I have to make sure it'll work on my 4JH4HTE.  Now only six more sensors and an isolated alternator and I'm golden.

Kent
SM243
Kristy


On Feb 11, 2015, at 11:31 AM, derickgates@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Kent,

 

Ebay has one of Bill's two lead sender unit parts at:

 

YANMAR 126630-91560 SENDER UNIT 119773-91520

 

Derick

 

SM2K#400 Brava

 


 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel 54 engine room airflow fan problem

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

I would suspect the fan relay first. These are normally mounted on the engine. 

Follow this link to the Yanmar relays, etc. This photo will give you an idea of what you are looking for:
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/photos/albums/1897410048/lightbox/1547195149?orderBy=ordinal&sortOrder=asc&photoFilter=ALL#zax/1547195149

I believe (99% sure) that this troubleshooting routine will work for you:
There will be 2 IN wires and 2 OUT wires. Check to see that you have 12VDC on both sides when the engine start switch is turned ON. If not, you found your problem.

Bill
BeBe 387

On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Leopold Hauer leopold.hauer@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Ron

I had the same problem on my Super Maramu. The reason was a lose wire on the backside of the engine controll panel.

Leo SM#69 Yin Yang

Von meinem iPad gesendet

Am 11.02.2015 um 17:02 schrieb ronheyselaar@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

Hi All,


I've an issue with both airflow fans (running when the Volvo Penta engine is running) not running. The generator exhaust fan is running perfectly fine but the main engine fans (in and out) for the air circulation in the engine room are not working.


The main switches in the junction box are both on and the wiring looks OK (i.e., no burns, corrosion, not hot, etc.). Actually it all looks like new.


The electrical diagrams of the 54 as issued by La Rochelle are a bit vague so not much help. It mainly shows that the fans are activated once the starter motor of the main engine is activated.


Before getting an expensive electrician trying to figure out how the whole system is wired and than repair it, I wonder whether somebody had a similar problem and, if so, how this was solved.


All the best from Barbados (here to get our US visa for our US East Coast adventure later in the year).


Ron, SY LILY Amel 54 #157



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Prop Shaft Electrolysis

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Kent,

The original sensor was 2 wire as well as the new one.

Bill
BeBe 387

On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thanks, Bill,
Yes, the electrical schematics for the Yanmar show the sensors grounded where they screw into the block, and they indeed have only one wire.

Was your old sensor also a two wire isolated one?  I guess your gauges/idiot lights continued to work properly with the new sensor?  The mechanic at my yard says that if you change sensors, you often have to change gauges, too.

I'll have a look at the part you cite and see what I can find out.  Wish I could get an answer from Yanmar that makes sense.

Kent
SM243
Kristy


From: "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
To: "amelyachtowners@..." htowners@...>
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Prop Shaft Electrolysis

 
Kent,

When I was in Puerto La Cruz, Venezuela about 7 or 8 years ago, I bought a new oil pressure sensor from the Yanmar distributor there. It had two wire terminal and I believe it was Yanmar part number 119773-91520. 

I am thinking that all Yanmar replacement sensors/senders are two terminal types which probably are isolated ground.

I cannot find where Yanmar makes 2 different sensors/senders...only one, and I am 99% sure it is 2 wire. And, I believe that since Yanmar does understand isolated grounding, these 2 wire sensors are isolated ground.

Did you check your sensors for 1 wire or 2 wires?

I hope this helps, more than it confuses.

Bill
BeBe 387


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On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 6:21 AM, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
Thank you Eric.  I thought that had to be the case, but the guru at Mastry (the U.S. Yanmar contact) has told my electrical engineer that no isolated sensors  are available.  They must be made by someone other than Yanmar.
If anyone knows where to get them, please let me know.
Thanks again,
Kent


On Feb 10, 2015, at 8:36 PM, sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 
Kent,
The Yanmar and Onan have a separate Negative from the rest of the boat as they have a separate battery. I have not looked at the 12 alternator but the negative lead from the start battery is only connected to my boat when the engine starts. Yes, isolated ground senders are available as I have them on my engine, if you have separate oil and temp gauges, they are also available with an isolated ground.
Sorry I am not on the boat to send you photos.
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite SM 376
 
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyach towners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 8:20 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Prop Shaft Electrolysis
 
 
Hi Eric,
I haven't gotten an answer from Yanmar.  Have been told to take the boat to Wards Electric in Ft Lauderdale.  Do you know if it's possible to get isolated sensors, starter, and alternator for Yanmar engines?  Olivier says I can leave it as is and add a galvanic isolator.  I will also add a hull pote ntial meter so I can monitor for leaks.
Kent


On Feb 9, 2015, at 10:46 PM, sailormon kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
Kent,
The sensors for the Yamaha should all be isolated ground sensors with 2 wires on each. If your sensors have one wire they use the block as a ground ( battery -) and are the wrong sensors. Amel did a lot to isolate the engine from the DC negative.
Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite SM 376
 
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2015 1:06 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Prop Shaft Electrolysis
 
 
I'm still not sure how to connect the electrical systems of my non-isolated Yanmar 4JH4HTE to avoid electrolytic issues in the future.  The consensus here seems to be that the bonding system should have no connections to the 220, 24, or 12V grounds.  The starter, 12V alternator, and sensors (temp, oil pressure, etc) are grounded to the engine block.  I'm still checking with Yanmar to see if isolated starter, alternator, and sensors are available, but I don't think they are...so I can't isolate the engine block (and thus the Cdrive) from the bonding system without having a connection to the 12V battery negative post.
Should I leave the engine connected to both the bonding system and the 12V negative pole (thus leaving the transmission and Cdrive connected through the engine)?

I've looked for a bonding wire to the generator, and don't see one.  I remember Eric's description of the genset as having a "floating ground" (or something like that, can't find it now).  Does that mean that the generator is not connected to the bonding system?  If so, then the small zinc in the raw water system is all that is protecting the generator from galvanic (or electrolytic) damage?

Going bald,
Kent
SM243
Kristy





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Amel 54 engine room airflow fan problem

Leopold Hauer
 

Hi Ron

I had the same problem on my Super Maramu. The reason was a lose wire on the backside of the engine controll panel.

Leo SM#69 Yin Yang

Von meinem iPad gesendet

Am 11.02.2015 um 17:02 schrieb ronheyselaar@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

Hi All,


I've an issue with both airflow fans (running when the Volvo Penta engine is running) not running. The generator exhaust fan is running perfectly fine but the main engine fans (in and out) for the air circulation in the engine room are not working.


The main switches in the junction box are both on and the wiring looks OK (i.e., no burns, corrosion, not hot, etc.). Actually it all looks like new.


The electrical diagrams of the 54 as issued by La Rochelle are a bit vague so not much help. It mainly shows that the fans are activated once the starter motor of the main engine is activated.


Before getting an expensive electrician trying to figure out how the whole system is wired and than repair it, I wonder whether somebody had a similar problem and, if so, how this was solved.


All the best from Barbados (here to get our US visa for our US East Coast adventure later in the year).


Ron, SY LILY Amel 54 #157