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Re: Air in the cooling system of CLIMMA Aircon

Dimitris Krasopoulos
 

I had the same problem the Airclima technician advised me the the relai that turns on the air condition pump is not working and I have to fix it. In order to have the aicondition to work I start the cockpit cabin air condition first and after a while the aft cabin air condition. This way I can have it working


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On Sep 25, 2021, at 8:03 PM, Lior Keydar <lior246@...> wrote:

Hi

Today I serviced the saltwater pump of the Air condition (3x CLIMMA 9 BH).
Only the aircon in the aft cabin does not work. It is getting very fast hot and shut off incl. the 220v switch. Is it possible that there is air inside the water cooling system of this air con? the water flows out. The other two air con works perfectly.

Thanks for your help.

Lior, SHARONA A54 #18


Re: Need to align C-Drive to Engine - Santorin currently North side of Sicily

Davi Rozgonyi
 
Edited

Yes! I had this done in palermo 3 years ago after a hack job mech in mallorca failed to do it right and trashed my vetus coupling rubbers in a few hundred miles. Limped in, found Gabriele Galizzi, at nautica Galizzi, in palermo old port. He had never done one before but I showed him the specs to make the alignment tool (you need this tool without question), he whipped it up in an hour, and did the job fast and well. 3 years on, many hundreds of miles motored, perfect. Great young guy (son of owner). Can't say enough about gabri. One of the few good guys out there. If you go to him, stay next door at sitimar. Also a great young guy, cheapest, friendliest, knows gabri, no worries.


Re: Speed sensor rubber cap

 

I had exactly the same issue. My sonic speed stopped working. I dove and found that I had one big barnacle on the rubber cap  When I pulled on the barnacle the cap came off.

Amel told me to reattach it with silicone sealant on the edges. 

I didn't haulout to do that and waited for about 6 months for a scheduled haul out. I replaced the cap, but Sonic Speed never worked. 

Good luck!

Best,

CW Bill Rouse 
Amel Owners Yacht School
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com 
Yacht School Calendar: www.preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/calendar.html


   

On Sat, Sep 25, 2021, 3:48 PM Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...> wrote:

Our speed sensor was a bit erratic after a 3 week stay in Venice. I dove in it today to clean the rubber caps with my diving gloves. The rubber cap came off of the forward sensor and I was able to catch it before it went to the bottom. 


I need to put the cap on while in water, until we haul out next year. It appears to be just a pressure fit as I could not see any sealant. The sealant may have just worn off in the past 12 years. Any advice on how to fit it back in under water, would be appreciated.

i have added pictures of the part to be reinstalled.

thank you.


Re: Air in the cooling system of CLIMMA Aircon

 

Lior, 

Seawater flows to the aft first then in series to the other two.

What you have cannot be a water flow issue. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse 
Amel Owners Yacht School
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com 
Yacht School Calendar: www.preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/calendar.html


   


On Sat, Sep 25, 2021, 3:32 PM ngtnewington Newington via groups.io <ngtnewington=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
I do not think you can have air in the sea water cooling system if the other two units work. The cooling is one circuit, sea water into pump then flows through each aircon compressor one after another with the final one being in the port forward cabin and out over the side.
Your problem in the aft cabin is something else, possibly low refrigerant?  Or something else…hard to say….
Nick
S/Y Amelia 
AML 54-019
Leros Gr


On 25 Sep 2021, at 20:00, Lior Keydar <lior246@...> wrote:

Bertrand

Thank you a lot for the advice. Actually, I don't find any water filter at the aircon. It is also very hard/impossible to see something at the backside of the aircon.

Thanks
Lior
SHARONA A54 #18


Re: Water maker - mental moment

 

Laurens,

The manual valve has been known to leak freshwater when it is in the saltwater position. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse 
Amel Owners Yacht School
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com 
Yacht School Calendar: www.preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/calendar.html


   


On Sat, Sep 25, 2021, 4:51 PM Laurens Vos <laurensrineke@...> wrote:

Bill I think you’re completely correct with your conclusion about the three way valve. Many thanks for that great tip !!!

 

I’m having long time the same problem as David. Only difference is that I’m having a manual shut off valve ( grey/blue valve on the picture ) in the fresh water line before the three way valve. 

That one I always shut off manually to get rid of the problem that the fresh water pump goes on every 20 minutes. 

But to run the watermaker I need to go in the engine room to open that manual valve to allow the watermaker to do a flush after use. When ready I need go in the engine room again to shut the same valve. 

I thought that the only culprit to this problem was the solenoid valve. 

 

Asked the Dessalator dealer here in La Rochelle to check it but he could  not solve the problem. Asked the Amel crew on the Amel pontoon which also had a look but couldn’t find the cause. 

Went back to the Dessalator dealer and he told me it could be some calcium on the solenoid valve which blocked it from closing completely. 

He advised me to order a new one. Which I did. 

Installed that new valve  (by coincidence yesterday) and the problem was still there !! 

 

Today I read your remark about the three way valve. 

I closed that valve (horizontal) left the manual grey/blue valve open and to my surprise problem was gone ! 

Which mean that your correct,  the fresh water was simply leaking via the three way valve back to the seawater intake. And NOT via the solenoid valve !

I never thought about that possibility. Not only me … but also not the Dessalator dealer and also not the Amel crew on the pontoon. 

 

Again big thanks for the great advice !!

 

Laurens Vos 

Fun@Sea

A54 - 72 

La Rochelle

 


Re: Water maker - mental moment

Porter McRoberts
 

The solenoid is the likely culprit. It can be removed and cleaned. Soak the parts in vinegar to remove the calcium. 

Porter McRoberts 
S/V IBIS A54-152 Denarau 
WhatsApp:+1 754 265 2206
Www.fouribis.net

On Sep 26, 2021, at 9:51 AM, Laurens Vos <laurensrineke@...> wrote:



Bill I think you’re completely correct with your conclusion about the three way valve. Many thanks for that great tip !!!

 

I’m having long time the same problem as David. Only difference is that I’m having a manual shut off valve ( grey/blue valve on the picture ) in the fresh water line before the three way valve. 

That one I always shut off manually to get rid of the problem that the fresh water pump goes on every 20 minutes. 

But to run the watermaker I need to go in the engine room to open that manual valve to allow the watermaker to do a flush after use. When ready I need go in the engine room again to shut the same valve. 

I thought that the only culprit to this problem was the solenoid valve. 

 

Asked the Dessalator dealer here in La Rochelle to check it but he could  not solve the problem. Asked the Amel crew on the Amel pontoon which also had a look but couldn’t find the cause. 

Went back to the Dessalator dealer and he told me it could be some calcium on the solenoid valve which blocked it from closing completely. 

He advised me to order a new one. Which I did. 

Installed that new valve  (by coincidence yesterday) and the problem was still there !! 

 

Today I read your remark about the three way valve. 

I closed that valve (horizontal) left the manual grey/blue valve open and to my surprise problem was gone ! 

Which mean that your correct,  the fresh water was simply leaking via the three way valve back to the seawater intake. And NOT via the solenoid valve !

I never thought about that possibility. Not only me … but also not the Dessalator dealer and also not the Amel crew on the pontoon. 

 

Again big thanks for the great advice !!

 

Laurens Vos 

Fun@Sea

A54 - 72 

La Rochelle

 
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Re: Water maker - mental moment

Laurens Vos
 

Bill I think you’re completely correct with your conclusion about the three way valve. Many thanks for that great tip !!!

 

I’m having long time the same problem as David. Only difference is that I’m having a manual shut off valve ( grey/blue valve on the picture ) in the fresh water line before the three way valve. 

That one I always shut off manually to get rid of the problem that the fresh water pump goes on every 20 minutes. 

But to run the watermaker I need to go in the engine room to open that manual valve to allow the watermaker to do a flush after use. When ready I need go in the engine room again to shut the same valve. 

I thought that the only culprit to this problem was the solenoid valve. 

 

Asked the Dessalator dealer here in La Rochelle to check it but he could  not solve the problem. Asked the Amel crew on the Amel pontoon which also had a look but couldn’t find the cause. 

Went back to the Dessalator dealer and he told me it could be some calcium on the solenoid valve which blocked it from closing completely. 

He advised me to order a new one. Which I did. 

Installed that new valve  (by coincidence yesterday) and the problem was still there !! 

 

Today I read your remark about the three way valve. 

I closed that valve (horizontal) left the manual grey/blue valve open and to my surprise problem was gone ! 

Which mean that your correct,  the fresh water was simply leaking via the three way valve back to the seawater intake. And NOT via the solenoid valve !

I never thought about that possibility. Not only me … but also not the Dessalator dealer and also not the Amel crew on the pontoon. 

 

Again big thanks for the great advice !!

 

Laurens Vos 

Fun@Sea

A54 - 72 

La Rochelle

 


Speed sensor rubber cap

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Our speed sensor was a bit erratic after a 3 week stay in Venice. I dove in it today to clean the rubber caps with my diving gloves. The rubber cap came off of the forward sensor and I was able to catch it before it went to the bottom. 


I need to put the cap on while in water, until we haul out next year. It appears to be just a pressure fit as I could not see any sealant. The sealant may have just worn off in the past 12 years. Any advice on how to fit it back in under water, would be appreciated.

i have added pictures of the part to be reinstalled.

thank you.


Re: Air in the cooling system of CLIMMA Aircon

Nick Newington
 

I do not think you can have air in the sea water cooling system if the other two units work. The cooling is one circuit, sea water into pump then flows through each aircon compressor one after another with the final one being in the port forward cabin and out over the side.
Your problem in the aft cabin is something else, possibly low refrigerant?  Or something else…hard to say….
Nick
S/Y Amelia 
AML 54-019
Leros Gr


On 25 Sep 2021, at 20:00, Lior Keydar <lior246@...> wrote:

Bertrand

Thank you a lot for the advice. Actually, I don't find any water filter at the aircon. It is also very hard/impossible to see something at the backside of the aircon.

Thanks
Lior
SHARONA A54 #18


Researching low profile solar panels

JB Duler
 

Hello,

I have a unique setup, an arch in front of the mizzen mast where 19W flexible solar panels were installed maybe 20 years ago. They are dead.

  1. I want to explore low profile rigid panels (the boom swings above it) as I do not think I can fit normal panels with regular height.
    1. Any of you have had experience with low profile panels? I would prefer low profile panels instead of flexible panels (but if I find nothing I may revert to flexible panels).
    2. The dimensions of the arch are 245 cm * 51 cm
  2. I can install a rigid or flexible panel on the rigid dodger where I can fit 45 cm * 135 cm
  3. I am also exploring adding side panels mounted on the Swedish system we recently discussed (Thanks Danny and Greg for the tips!)
  4. Any brand or dealer you would recommend?

The boat is based near Barcelona. Where is a good source to get panels in Europe? I know where to go in the US but not in Europe.

Thanks again for the help,
--
John Bernard "JB" Duler
San Francisco
Meltem # 19, Western Med


Re: Air in the cooling system of CLIMMA Aircon

Lior Keydar
 

Bertrand

Thank you a lot for the advice. Actually, I don't find any water filter at the aircon. It is also very hard/impossible to see something at the backside of the aircon.

Thanks
Lior
SHARONA A54 #18


Buying an Amel

Paul Harries
 

This forum is superb, the one most important thing I have gleamed is to buy a boat that isin excellent condition as refurbished can break the bank.

Covid has changed things, there is a lot more windown shopping, jetting around looking at lots of boats is no longer easy. What tips can  you owners give on picking out excellent boats from the ads? Obviously I am well aware of  Bill's and Joel's services.
--
Paul Harries
Prospective Amel Buyer


Re: Need to align C-Drive to Engine - Santorin currently North side of Sicily

Marco Baldan
 

Dear Sabine and Amel Group,


In Italy a reference for Amel Yachts and also other sailboats is Davide Zerbinati (info@...). 
He is based in the north of Italy but has a good knowledge of available resources in the country. Unless a better option through the Amel Group, I would contact him for advice.

Fair winds,
Marco Baldan (not yet an Amel owner but looking for a Maramu)





On 25 Sep 2021, at 17:30, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

Sabine Stein <s.stein64@...> asks, "Is there anybody in Italy who knows a mechanic who did exactly that to the boat already 
or if in Italee anybody can recommend a mechanic who has worked on an Amel before"
 
Best,
 
CW Bill Rouse
Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970


Re: Bowman DC60-XCC Transmission Oil Cooler Failure; ZF Hurth ZF 25; Yanmar 4JH3-HTE #lessons

Alain Durante <info@...>
 

Hello,

 

Just came back from the boat and took the photo here under.

 

As you can see, the MOTA is bigger and longer than the original oil cooler and that might be a little more work to fix it on the engine frame.

 

Not difficult but needs to be very tight to avoid to touch the shaft brake disk when engine is running.

 

Maybe it will be easier to only order a new Bowman oil cooler together with 2 additional neoprene moulding to be used with the old cooler as a spare unit.

 

 

 

Cordialement,

 

Alain Durante

A54 / 21 / Meige

 

De : main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> De la part de Lior Keydar via groups.io
Envoyé : vendredi 24 septembre 2021 16:14
À : main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Objet : Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Bowman DC60-XCC Transmission Oil Cooler Failure; ZF Hurth ZF 25; Yanmar 4JH3-HTE #lessons #lessons

 

Hi everybody, dear Alain

I would like to order the Bowman DC60-XCC or the MOTA G058-235-1 / CC32.

The CC is 32 (on both products) but the oil ports on my boat are about 16 mm or 5/8 inches. Should I replace the oil ports to 3/8 or 1/2 inches (DC60-X or Y)?


Thank you for your help.

Lior, A54 #18


Re: Air in the cooling system of CLIMMA Aircon

Bertrand Quénot
 

Lior,
Don’t know if this could help but I have got the same trouble once because of a dusty filter at the entrance of the aircon. 
Regards
Bertrand 
ANTINEA A54#43

Le 25 sept. 2021 à 12:03, Lior Keydar <lior246@...> a écrit :

Hi

Today I serviced the saltwater pump of the Air condition (3x CLIMMA 9 BH).
Only the aircon in the aft cabin does not work. It is getting very fast hot and shut off incl. the 220v switch. Is it possible that there is air inside the water cooling system of this air con? the water flows out. The other two air con works perfectly.

Thanks for your help.

Lior, SHARONA A54 #18


Re: Bowman DC60-XCC Transmission Oil Cooler Failure; ZF Hurth ZF 25; Yanmar 4JH3-HTE #lessons

Lior Keydar
 

Dear Bill

my transmission oil cooler has a fitting of about 1.6 cm (5/8 Zoll). Should I replace the L fitting (by Bowman or Mota)?

Thank you in advance.

Lior




Air in the cooling system of CLIMMA Aircon

Lior Keydar
 

Hi

Today I serviced the saltwater pump of the Air condition (3x CLIMMA 9 BH).
Only the aircon in the aft cabin does not work. It is getting very fast hot and shut off incl. the 220v switch. Is it possible that there is air inside the water cooling system of this air con? the water flows out. The other two air con works perfectly.

Thanks for your help.

Lior, SHARONA A54 #18


Re: Water maker - mental moment

 

David, the actual 3-way manual valve has been known to leak also...And, of course, it could be a leaking 1-way valve on the freshwater pump.


CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar

On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 11:28 AM David Crisp <david@...> wrote:
Thanks Olivier and Roque,

I have checked for leaks everywhere and all is tight so before getting into more technical thoughts I wanted to check I wasn't making a silly mistake.  Will check the solenoid valve.
--
David Crisp
SV Wilna Grace
Amel 54 #58


Re: Water maker - mental moment

David Crisp
 

Thanks Olivier and Roque,

I have checked for leaks everywhere and all is tight so before getting into more technical thoughts I wanted to check I wasn't making a silly mistake.  Will check the solenoid valve.
--
David Crisp
SV Wilna Grace
Amel 54 #58


Re: Need to align C-Drive to Engine - Santorin currently North side of Sicily

 

Sabine Stein <s.stein64@...> asks, "Is there anybody in Italy who knows a mechanic who did exactly that to the boat already 
or if in Italee anybody can recommend a mechanic who has worked on an Amel before"
 
Best,
 
CW Bill Rouse
Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

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