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Re: B&G Forward Scan Transducer Install

Pierre Blouin
 

Hi Juan, 

Would it be possible for you to post a couple pictures showing the location of your B&G Forward Scan transducer?  From both inside and outside showing the outside position in relation to the keel.
If you're not having interference issues and you're satisfied with its operation, we would greatly benefit from knowing/seeing your transducer location.

Very much appreciated.

-Pierre Blouin
SV Viva, SM374
Portland, OR


On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 6:22 AM Christian Rabaron <christianrabaron@...> wrote:
Hello Juan
Nice to hear from you
Where  are you now ?
Congratulations for your nice vidéos on YouTube  👏 . I enjoyed watching them last year
My SM Amadeus is still in Cap d'Agde , I am satisfied with my new Q Sail main sail changed last year . We sailed in Spain last septembre with Paul
Kind regards
Christian 

Le lun. 7 mars 2022 à 15:49, Juan de Zulueta via groups.io <jdezulueta=icloud.com@groups.io> a écrit :
I believe I have the normal one.
I installed it two years ago, there was only one version available.

Envoyé de mon iPhone

Le 3 mars 2022 à 17:06, Eloi Bamberg <eloi.bamberg@...> a écrit :

Thank you. Do you have the normal or the long version of the forward transducer installed?

Eloi

--
Juan de Zulueta
OPHELIE X
Super Maramu #32


Re: Qsails

 

All,

I learned this today from a client who ordered HydraNet from Incidence Sails. BTW, his sails were delayed by Incidence Sails because of delivery issues from Dimension Polyant.

Comment from Incidence regarding Nautospere:

The test we did with Nautosphere showed us that this material was not as good as the Hydranet, more deformation because of the cross-cut, that is the reason why we don’t use this fabric. We know they have improved it a bit, we will have to redo some tests, but as this material did not reach our standards we prefer not to use it.


The above comment seems logical and is from a credible source. 

--

 
Best,
 
CW Bill Rouse
Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970


Re: B&G Forward Scan Transducer Install

Christian Rabaron
 

Hello Juan
Nice to hear from you
Where  are you now ?
Congratulations for your nice vidéos on YouTube  👏 . I enjoyed watching them last year
My SM Amadeus is still in Cap d'Agde , I am satisfied with my new Q Sail main sail changed last year . We sailed in Spain last septembre with Paul
Kind regards
Christian 


Le lun. 7 mars 2022 à 15:49, Juan de Zulueta via groups.io <jdezulueta=icloud.com@groups.io> a écrit :
I believe I have the normal one.
I installed it two years ago, there was only one version available.

Envoyé de mon iPhone

Le 3 mars 2022 à 17:06, Eloi Bamberg <eloi.bamberg@...> a écrit :

Thank you. Do you have the normal or the long version of the forward transducer installed?

Eloi

--
Juan de Zulueta
OPHELIE X
Super Maramu #32


Re: Battery/Bow thruster cable size/gauge

Alan "Woody" Wood
 

Perfect.. thanks Mark!


Re: Qsails

Bill Kinney
 

Dennis,

Loads on a cross cut sail are very different than those on a radial cut.  The weave of the fabric needs to be matched to the loads.  Fabrics made for cross cut sails can not be well used for radial cut sails, and vise versa.

I would disagree that cross cut sails are intrinsically better for roller furling mainsails. You can make an argument that the cross cut construction is better when the sail is new, but all other things being equal, a radial sail WILL stretch less than a cross cut sail.  A stretched and baggy sail is miserable to roll up inside a mast and will cause all kinds of grief. For the typical cruiser who is looking to make sails last as long as possible, good radial cut sails will last longer in roller furling applications.

The primary downside of a radial sail is the cost of construction.  There are a LOT more seams that need to be pushed through a sewing machine and that costs money. Typically, a cross cut sail can be "triple stitched" with each seam sewn three times.  While it might be theoretically POSSIBLE to triple stitch a radial cut sail, I have never seen such a beast.  Since loadings in a radial cut sail are parallel to the seams this is not really a strength issue, but it means that any chafe on stitching needs to be attended to quickly since there are no back-up stitches nearby.  In a cross cut sail, much of the load is ACROSS the seams and the extra stitching is really not optional for full strength.

Battens cause endless arguments.  For standard hoisted sails, battens are a useful compromise.  Certainly more wear and maintenance, but better performance. I had them on my old boat, and would not change that.  On a roller furling main (or mizzen) I avoid battens.  The benefits (in my opinion) do not out-way the drawbacks. At least on a Super Maramu the mainsail is a minor player in driving the boat. Any improvement to the mains's performance would have to be REALLY dramatic to have much of an effect on the overall performance of the boat. 

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Hollywood, FL


Re: Gray Water Bilge Toggle switch for SN, SM, 54, 55

Bill Kinney
 

After trying MANY of the inexpensive toggle switches, in the marine environment and being always disappointed, the ONLY ones I will now buy are the mil-spec water-tight switches from Honeywell. These are far better (and more expensive) switches than the Amel OEM versions.  Many of these are robust and reliable enough they are rated for aircraft use.

They REALLY ARE expensive ($20-30 instead of $2) but I have NEVER had one fail, even after being sprayed with saltwater.  If it is just a case of the cost, you could buy 5 of the cheap China-made ones and change them out when they failed, and come out ahead in a few years.  But the first time you push the switch and NOTHING happens, you will wish you spent the extra money up front.

This is just one example, well matched to the bilge pump application: https://www.grainger.com/product/HONEYWELL-Toggle-Switch-24D429

When you are specifying switches for 24V DC be to check the DC rating of the switch. It might seem a bit counter intuitive, but 15 Amps at 220VAC is a much easier load to switch than 15 Amps at 24VDC.  Switches designed exclusively for AC service will fail early in DC service because DC loads will arc more and damage the contacts.

And if you need a new extension arm for the bilge pump toggle switch, the barrel of a ball point pen is about perfect.  Use a heat gun to soften the plastic, and mold it to the shape of the switch's arm.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Hollywood, FL


Re: Battery/Bow thruster cable size/gauge

Mark McGovern
 

Here's a picture of one of the Bowthruster cables on my SM.   The jacket is marked 95mm^2:



--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Annapolis, MD USA


Re: Battery/Bow thruster cable size/gauge

Mark McGovern
 

Woody,

They were 95mm^2 on my SM 2004 Hull #440.  That's roughly 3/0 AWG.  I replaced them with 4/0 when I switched over to LiFePO4 batteries

--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Annapolis, MD USA


Battery/Bow thruster cable size/gauge

Alan "Woody" Wood
 

Does anyone know the battery cable size/gauge of the fat cable from the neg shunt and pos.battery terminal to the battery shut off on a 1997 SM.. which I presume is the same as the Bow Thruster cable?  I need to add an inline fuse so need some lugs of the correct size but can't make out what the exiting lugs are.
Ta!


Gray Water Bilge Toggle switch for SN, SM, 54, 55

 

This switch is not exactly the same switch, but is the same manufacturer and will work.

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How to make the above switch work:

CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   


Re: Qsails

 

Denis,

It is a good question. I do not have any experience with crosscut HydraNet, so the answer you seek needs to come from someone with experience. There is HydraNet and Radial Hydranet. These are different fabrics. The Radial HydraNet is made for TriRadial construction, whereas HydraNet is made for crosscut construction.

This Amel Book Supplement may help you.


Regarding battens and Amels, Incidence Sails in France has more experience than any sailmaker I know with battened sails on Amels. Today, they do not offer a replacement sail with battens for an Amel. I do not recommend batten sails on an Amel because of this:
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Bill

CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   


On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 5:05 AM Denis Foster <deniswfoster@...> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

Hello Bill,

May I ask a question that puzzles me :

Cross cut with no battens (or short battens) was said to be the best choice for trouble free in mast furling. To keep a good shape and that good in mast furling properties Hydranet seems to be the optimal choice.

For cross cut battenless sail is Hydranet as good than Hydranet Radial ?

Thanks for sharing all this useful knowledge.

Best regards.

Denis


Re: Qsails

Denis Foster
 
Edited

Hello Bill,

May I ask a question that puzzles me :

Cross cut with no battens (or short battens) was said to be the best choice for trouble free in mast furling. To keep a good shape and that good in mast furling properties Hydranet seems to be the optimal choice.

For cross cut battenless sail is Hydranet as good than Hydranet Radial ?

Thanks for sharing all this useful knowledge.

Best regards.

Denis


Re: FA 50 GPS Rollover Update - Password for Memory Clear

Dean Gillies
 

Ralph, Wolfgang and Billy,
Ok I understand, thank you for your support.
Best regards,
Dean
SV Stella
A540154 


Re: Qsails

 

OK!!

Bill


CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   


On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 5:00 PM Jason Rutledge <jasonrutledge1@...> wrote:
I got an update today.  I ordered Pro radial at the beginning of December 2021.  They apparently have the material and it will be ready to ship next week.  Fingers crossed!
--
Jason Rutledge
SV Liahona
SM 335


Re: Qsails

Jason Rutledge
 

I got an update today.  I ordered Pro radial at the beginning of December 2021.  They apparently have the material and it will be ready to ship next week.  Fingers crossed!
--
Jason Rutledge
SV Liahona
SM 335


Re: FA 50 GPS Rollover Update - Password for Memory Clear

Billy Newport
 

Can confirm this experience on my 55. No password.

Billy
 


Re: FA 50 GPS Rollover Update - Password for Memory Clear

Ralph Heilig
 

Hi All,
you need no User and Password. The Softwareupdate is storing all your stettings at the beginning and then restoring it after the update. I had nothing to manualy set after the update. All parameters as before. 

Here the procedure:


FA50 Update Procedures via PC
1. Preparation
(1) Connect a PC to the FA50 via ethernet connection
(2) Download the FA50 update program archive to your PC, and unzip it.
(3) Open “View Network Connections” from the start menu on PC, and select the “Local area 
connection” and open the properties. 
(4) Select “Internet Protocol Version 4 (TCP/IPv4)” in [Networking] tab and open “Properties”. 
(5) Select the radio button “Use the following IP address:” and enter the following IP address and 
the subnet mask information. Setting of Default Gateway or DNS is not required.
a. PC IP Address: 172.31.1.1
b. Subnet mask: 255.255.0.0
 
 
2. Update Procedure
(1) Open the program folder and run the batch file “nUPFA50”. A Command Prompt window will 
open.
(2) Turn on the FA50. Within approximately 10 seconds the message appears saying 
My IPaddress=172.31.1.1
P0>connection IPaddress=172.31.24.3 000%
P0>Now Writing
(3) A boot program for applications automatically starts updating. When finished, a message saying 
P0>connection IPaddress=172.31.24.3 100%
P0>finish upload program. (size=204048) 
The upload should take approximately 20 seconds to complete. 
(4) When the message “Press any key to continue” appears, press any key for the Command 
Prompt to exit. 
(5) Disconnect the unit and it should be up to date.

More Infos:
fa50_update_procedures_via_pc.pdf (furunousa.com)


Here you can download the software:
FA50 (furunousa.com)

Ralph
SY Santa Isabella
A54-144




Re: FW: Please watch

Mark Erdos
 

I think we've all had one of those bolts stuck like he had on the turbocharger :)
_._,_._,_

Great video, thanks for sharing


With best regards,

Mark

Skipper
Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275
Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia


Re: FA 50 GPS Rollover Update - Password for Memory Clear

Wolfgang Weber
 

Hi Dean and Ralph,
You are right there are two different passwords. I found one for  service on the internet and it worked ( 6 ? numbers) fine. I have it on the boat in La Rochelle, but I am now in Florida. If it is not too late for you I will be on the  boat back the first days of April and will send it to the group.
Wolfgang  SY Elise Amel 54#162


Re: Qsails

EricOpdeweegh
 

We ordered a ProRadial / -Tri-radial cut with Qsails half september 2021 and after a 6 weeks delay it was delivered finally 19th November, 2021 
So some delay and some difficulty with the import tax but still not to bad in delivery time. 

We hoisted it just to check. All looks great but due winter time we did not sail with it yet.
Reading Bill Kinney's remark the perfromance seems great after 10000 miles, so that is promissing

Rgrds
Eric & Els
sv Abayomi 
Currently in The Netherlands

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