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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Seals for bow thruster and for main prop shaft

Derick Gates SM2K #400 Brava
 

Kent,

 

I really appreciate your detailed response.  It gives me confidence that I, too, can do this!

 

Derick

SM2K #400 Brava


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Delivery address in Washington DC

Ric Gottschalk <ric@...>
 

Jean-Pierre,

I am also in the Annapolis Area and your are welcome to ship to my office/Home. I am located about 10 minutes from BWI airport and glad to assist. Just email me directly at Ric@... for more info. There is a train that goes to Washington DC from the airport, if that helps.

Ric

SN 24 Bali Hai

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 11:37 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Delivery address in Washington DC

 

 

Hi Bob,

 

Thanks for the comments; I will compare Defender and West and decide upon the most appropriate for me.

 

Thank you.

 

Jean-Pierre Germain

 

 

On 22 Sep 2014, at 15:36, Bob Fritz sailboatdelivery@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:



 

Jean-Pierre,
If you purchase through West Marine, you can have the items shipped to a West Marine store free of charge. There are several in the Washington, DC area, the closest in Alexandria, VA. You can find all locations on the West Marine website. You could pick them up at the most convenient location. The store will hold the items for at least 14 days after arrival and longer if you request. This has worked well for me in the past.

I would be willing to accept the items, but I am about 25 miles east of DC near Annapolis and am frequently away doing boat deliveries.

Fair winds, Bob

 

Jean-Pierre Germain,
Chief Pilot, Cozuro Limited,
+44 7551 211 511
jp.germain@...
jp.germain@...

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Delivery address in Washington DC

Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
 

Hi Bob,

Thanks for the comments; I will compare Defender and West and decide upon the most appropriate for me.

Thank you.

Jean-Pierre Germain


On 22 Sep 2014, at 15:36, Bob Fritz sailboatdelivery@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Jean-Pierre,
If you purchase through West Marine, you can have the items shipped to a West Marine store free of charge. There are several in the Washington, DC area, the closest in Alexandria, VA. You can find all locations on the West Marine website. You could pick them up at the most convenient location. The store will hold the items for at least 14 days after arrival and longer if you request. This has worked well for me in the past.

I would be willing to accept the items, but I am about 25 miles east of DC near Annapolis and am frequently away doing boat deliveries.

Fair winds, Bob


Jean-Pierre Germain,
Chief Pilot, Cozuro Limited,
+44 7551 211 511
jp.germain@...
jp.germain@...


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: MAC based Navigation

karkauai
 

I am still using The Cap'n program on Windows. It seems to work fine on my MAC laptop with a Windows 7 partition, but I've heard it doesn't work with Windows 8. The program is easy to use, charts have been available for anyplace I've been so far. Unfortunately the aftermarket service has been less than good, so I am also looking for another PC/MAC based program. I have a couple other Apple navigation apps on my iPhone and iPad that have most of the features I want, but they are cumbersome to use when drawing routes compared to The Cap'n.

I want to put a slave monitor at the helm, but it's really OK looking at the laptop from the helm through the companionway. With a slave monitor and a wireless mouse, I could do everything from the helm.

I'm interested in what everyone else is using now that would fit my needs.
Thanks,
Kent
SM243
Kristy


Re: Delivery address in Washington DC

Bob Fritz
 

Jean-Pierre,
If you purchase through West Marine, you can have the items shipped to a West Marine store free of charge. There are several in the Washington, DC area, the closest in Alexandria, VA. You can find all locations on the West Marine website. You could pick them up at the most convenient location. The store will hold the items for at least 14 days after arrival and longer if you request. This has worked well for me in the past.

I would be willing to accept the items, but I am about 25 miles east of DC near Annapolis and am frequently away doing boat deliveries.

Fair winds, Bob


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: MAC based Navigation

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

Hi we have been using C-Map on our iPhone iPad with out any issues. 

Fair Winds Smooth Sailing To All
Capt Richard 
RP Yacht Brokerage
Newport RI 
We list sell and service fine yachts including Amel's
Cell 603 767 5330

On Sep 21, 2014, at 22:00, "tango708@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Don, thank you our hull numbers are close together.

Will Stout
SM 180
Anni Bea True


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Gas Struts for engine cover

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

I purchased 2 from
Bansbach easylift in Florida 321-253-1999
Esteban Contreras estebanc@...

A1A1N40-250-608/400N 316L Stainless Steel
Meaning a stroke of 250 mm with 608 mm overall
400 NM resistance
The stroke is 8 mm
The Diameter of the cylinder is 19 mm
With 8 mm hinge on each side.

Took a few weeks to build
They were quite expensive $125 each (and free shipping).

These were the highest standard they are, guaranty for 10.000 opening...
They also had a cheaper standard line.

Sincerely, Alexandre
Bay Street Marina, Nassau, Bahamas


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Seals for bow thruster and for main prop shaft

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Kent,

The foam seals for the bow thruster are different. 

The following is an email from Amel:

"Indeed you will have 2 neoprene foam seals and 1 natural foam seal. When you touch them you will feel the difference.
 
Best regards,
 
Maud
sav@..."

I hope this helps you.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
sent from my tablet

On Sep 21, 2014 6:39 PM, "Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi again, Derick,
Here are the seal sizes for the Main Prop Shaft:
45mm X 65mm X 8mm  Get the SC type (one lip) and get the stainless steel springs. You need three of these for each time you haul out for painting.  I have done as others suggested...put the most forward seal in with the open side facing forward, the other two with the open side facing aft.  This is the opposite of what the Amel drawing shows, but it seems better because the forward seal keeps oil from leaking out, if it fails, the oil level in the reservoir will drop and you can add oil.  The other two keep water from getting in...if that fails, you have a milk shake in your reservoir and the level rises.   Nothing you can do about that but haul out and change the seals, so having two keeping water out and one keeping oil in is better than one keeping water out and two keeping oil in.  I had water in my oil after several months when I did it as shown on the Amel drawing, after two different changes.  Since I've done it as described above, I haven't lost any oil or had any water ingress.  Use RTV on these seals when you install them.

For the Bow Thruster:
The prop shaft seal is 30mm X 42mm X 7mm, again SC type and stainless spring.  You need one of these each time.  Use RTV.
The main seal that fits around the carbon fiber shaft of the "foot" assembly is 60mm X 80mm X 12mm. SC type but no stainless spring. You need one of these each time.  Use RTV
The "foam" seals are 60mm X 108mm X 10mm.  I got these from Amel, and they sent me 12 of them all the same.  Some people on this site have noted that their seals are not all the same.  I've used these seals twice now and haven't had a drop of seawater in the forward bilge.  You need three of them for each haul out.  Spray with contact cement when you install them.

Carolina Seal can get them all except possibly the foam seals.  Next time I go there, I will take one and see if they know what the material is...if they can supply them, I will post it here.  Contact is now Tyler Hurley  (thurley at carolinaseal dot com) or Barry Craver (bcraver at carolinaseal dot com).  The phone number is 704 523 4450.  They will probably have to order some of them, so it will take a week or so to get them.

Hope this helps.
Kent
SM243
Kristy



From: "derickgates@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 11:12 PM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: bow thruster maintenance

 
Thanks Kent, I would really like the sizes/part numbers from Carolina Seal for those bow thruster seals and the main propeller seals.  Like Eric, did you get the ones with the stainless steel springs?

By the way, my previous owner got a bow thruster hub made out of stainless steel instaed of Delryn, and in doing so extended the hub to enable the addition of a retaining ring that is kept in place by a stainless steel cotter pin.  Now on Brava if the worst happens and the nylon bolts holding in the bow thruster propeller get sheered off by being tangled in a stray line or a plastic bag, the propeller is retained and not lost to the depths!! To my mind, it was a great innovation.

Alexandre, your detailed pictures are marvelous as a supplement to the previous descriptions.  Can you tell us the specific bearing part numbers and suppliers that you used?  One question, besides the tape, was there also some screw(s) that you and others use to attach the Amel special tool to the shaft?  If so, are these screws part of the bow thruster shaft already?

My bow thruster shaft is very firmly stuck into the electric motor, and in January when I get back on board I want to use that puller tool from Amel to see if I can get it free.  I figure doing this in drydock is the better part of valor in case it requires some man-handling from below, as Bill Rouse has related.  Thanks to all who have written up these procedures and supplied such useful information.  Forewarned is forearmed.

Ever the neophyte,

Derick

SM2K #400 Brava





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] A couple questions

karkauai
 

I have carried TransDerm Scop patches, meclizine, and Zofran for crew.  So far I've never been sick.  The FDA says Relief Bands (the electronic kind, not the pressure kind) are the only thing that relieves sea sickness once it starts.  They are also used for post-op nausea and hyperemesis gravidarum (nausea if pregnancy)  I have had two of them on the boat and so far they have not only prevented, but also stopped nausea in several crew.  I've used them on 8 different crew and only one has said it didn't do anything for them.  On three occasions I put one on crew that was nauseated and salivating, and within a few minutes their symptoms were abating.  They wore the band for three more days without further symptoms.
It seems like hocus-pocus, but I'm sold!   Last ones I bought were $99 on West Marine website four or five years ago.
Kent
SM243
Kristy


On Sep 22, 2014, at 7:33 AM, "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I am looking at a USA prescription bottle of SCOPACE 0.4 MG TABLET.

I do not know if you still get this, but it is worth trying. I have tried it with lots of guests and it always works.

I believe it is the same drug as the Transaderm Patches.

The good thing about this is that you can take it when you first feel a little sick.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
sent from my tablet

On Sep 21, 2014 9:13 PM, "Andrew Lamb andrew.lamb@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

How people react to these varies – personally I have always found sturgeron makes me very tired which I find equally disabling, but I know of others that find it very good – fortunately we don’t seem to suffer sea sickness so much these days but have found in France Vogalene to be very good – the molecule is Métopimazine – I am not sure of its availability elsewhere.

 

Andrew & Kate

 

Ronpische

SM2k 472

Canet en Roussillion, France

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 6:46 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] A couple questions

 

 

I have found Scopoderm to be the best of all.  Stugeron makes people sleepy.  We use half a patch (putting it in place behind the ear about 12 hours before a trip and even crew who are prone to bad seasickness have no problems at all.

 

Peter

Sm Pure Magic. 433


On 21 Sep 2014, at 08:56, "Richard03801 richard03801@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Eric. The stuff is great with no side effects. Take one half and hour before departing and them one the next day and have a great sail. 

Has never failed the crew unless the refuse to take it. 

Fair Winds Smooth Sailing To All

Capt Richard 

RP Yacht Brokerage

Newport RI 

We list sell and service fine yachts including Amel's


On Sep 21, 2014, at 1:56, "kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Some of my crew and friends use stugeron available on the net and over the counter in Bermuda. They sweat by it.

Eric

sm 376 Kimberlite

----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners]"
Date: Saturday, September 20, 2014 7:40 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] A couple questions
To: amelyachtowners@...

>
> Ric, I do not get sea sick myself, I have sailed to the
> Caribbean before all around there for months and other offshore
> trips and never have been sick. I have crew and want to have
> something to offer them to prevent them from getting sick, I do
> not need that. Pat
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ric Gottschalk ric@... [amelyachtowners]
> To:
> 'amelyachtowners@...'
> Sent: Fri, Sep 19, 2014 10:12 am
> Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] A couple questions
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Pat, I use meclizine. This is the same as the over the counter
> products line Bonine, except you can buy 50 tablets for under
> $10.00. I take ½ tablet every 12 hours, the first tablet 3-4
> hours before. Some folks use the patch of scopolamine 
> transdermal patch.. I would try out before going offshore. If
> this is your first passage, I strongly recommend extra crew.
> Many hands make work easier. Go to Hank Schmidt of Offshore
> Passage Opportunities. Definitely bring good BBQ with cover.
> Never had a problem keeping lite. I have also added a connection
> from my propane tank to eliminate little bottles. Keeps the heat
> out of the cabin as a bonus.
> Cheers,
> Ric
> SN24 Bali Hai
>
>
>
> From: amelyachtowners@...
> [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]Sent: Friday, September
> 19, 2014 8:58 AM
> To: amelyachtowners@...
> Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] A couple questions
>
>
>
>
>
> We are preparing to sail down to the Caribbean next month for
> the winter and want to ask a couple questions . We are debating
> about taking along our propane grill , its hard to keep lit in
> all but calm conditions , we like to grill , but do not want to
> haul it down if we can not use it , I do not want to deal with
> charcoal. Has anyone a suggestion or success grilling in windy
> conditions. Second , what is an effective seasickness medication
> ? Thanks, Pat SM#123
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] A couple questions

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

I am looking at a USA prescription bottle of SCOPACE 0.4 MG TABLET.

I do not know if you still get this, but it is worth trying. I have tried it with lots of guests and it always works.

I believe it is the same drug as the Transaderm Patches.

The good thing about this is that you can take it when you first feel a little sick.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
sent from my tablet

On Sep 21, 2014 9:13 PM, "Andrew Lamb andrew.lamb@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

How people react to these varies – personally I have always found sturgeron makes me very tired which I find equally disabling, but I know of others that find it very good – fortunately we don’t seem to suffer sea sickness so much these days but have found in France Vogalene to be very good – the molecule is Métopimazine – I am not sure of its availability elsewhere.

 

Andrew & Kate

 

Ronpische

SM2k 472

Canet en Roussillion, France

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 6:46 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] A couple questions

 

 

I have found Scopoderm to be the best of all.  Stugeron makes people sleepy.  We use half a patch (putting it in place behind the ear about 12 hours before a trip and even crew who are prone to bad seasickness have no problems at all.

 

Peter

Sm Pure Magic. 433


On 21 Sep 2014, at 08:56, "Richard03801 richard03801@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Eric. The stuff is great with no side effects. Take one half and hour before departing and them one the next day and have a great sail. 

Has never failed the crew unless the refuse to take it. 

Fair Winds Smooth Sailing To All

Capt Richard 

RP Yacht Brokerage

Newport RI 

We list sell and service fine yachts including Amel's


On Sep 21, 2014, at 1:56, "kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Some of my crew and friends use stugeron available on the net and over the counter in Bermuda. They sweat by it.

Eric

sm 376 Kimberlite

----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners]"
Date: Saturday, September 20, 2014 7:40 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] A couple questions
To: amelyachtowners@...

>
> Ric, I do not get sea sick myself, I have sailed to the
> Caribbean before all around there for months and other offshore
> trips and never have been sick. I have crew and want to have
> something to offer them to prevent them from getting sick, I do
> not need that. Pat
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ric Gottschalk ric@... [amelyachtowners]
> To:
> 'amelyachtowners@...'
> Sent: Fri, Sep 19, 2014 10:12 am
> Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] A couple questions
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Pat, I use meclizine. This is the same as the over the counter
> products line Bonine, except you can buy 50 tablets for under
> $10.00. I take ½ tablet every 12 hours, the first tablet 3-4
> hours before. Some folks use the patch of scopolamine 
> transdermal patch.. I would try out before going offshore. If
> this is your first passage, I strongly recommend extra crew.
> Many hands make work easier. Go to Hank Schmidt of Offshore
> Passage Opportunities. Definitely bring good BBQ with cover.
> Never had a problem keeping lite. I have also added a connection
> from my propane tank to eliminate little bottles. Keeps the heat
> out of the cabin as a bonus.
> Cheers,
> Ric
> SN24 Bali Hai
>
>
>
> From: amelyachtowners@...
> [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]Sent: Friday, September
> 19, 2014 8:58 AM
> To: amelyachtowners@...
> Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] A couple questions
>
>
>
>
>
> We are preparing to sail down to the Caribbean next month for
> the winter and want to ask a couple questions . We are debating
> about taking along our propane grill , its hard to keep lit in
> all but calm conditions , we like to grill , but do not want to
> haul it down if we can not use it , I do not want to deal with
> charcoal. Has anyone a suggestion or success grilling in windy
> conditions. Second , what is an effective seasickness medication
> ? Thanks, Pat SM#123
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Aluminum Dinghy

Patrick McAneny
 

Eric, When I said aluminum ,I was only referring to the hull , it is a rib . I hope to store upside down on the aft deck , and on an arch while anchored. I would like a 9.5 foot with 15 hp. but may have to go with 9 foot to fit and go with 8 hp. ,which I have. If the 9 with a 8 hp. can plane with 2 people , that's good enough for me.  Pat
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Sun, Sep 21, 2014 3:59 pm
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Aluminum Dinghy

 
Please tell me about the aluminum dinghy.
Where do you plan on stowing it?
Fair winds,
Eric
Sm  376 Kimberlite

----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners]"
Date: Sunday, September 21, 2014 7:45 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] A couple questions
To: amelyachtowners@...

>
> Eric, My crew two brothers, long time friends were over the
> house last night. They both have three weeks off work , so we
> have time enough to sail straight to St.Martin , spend a couple
> days pick up the new dinghy and sail back to BVI , so they can
> depart Charlotte Amalie . If it goes that way I will try to look
> you up. Pat SM 123
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]
> To: amelyachtowners 
> Sent: Sun, Sep 21, 2014 1:55 am
> Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] A couple questions
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Pat,
> I expect to be at Simpson Bay Yacht Cub (probably dock C near
> the end) about November 9 till ?? then on to Santa Marta 
> Colombia Panama then back to SBYC for the CCA Gam and then back
> to NY in May.
> Please keep in touch.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners]"
> Date: Saturday, September 20, 2014 8:08 am
> Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] A couple questions
> To: amelyachtowners@...
>
> >
> > Eric, Probably land in the BVI, hang there a couple weeks and
> > then over to St. Martin to buy a new AB aluminum dinghy,
> cheaper
> > down there than here. From there everywhere down to Grenada
> and
> > back to the Chesapeake in April. Thinking about coming back up
> > through the Bahamas and have been thinking of asking the
> group's
> > opinion whether there is enough water depth or do you have to
> be
> > on your toes every minute worried you will run aground. Pat
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners]
> > To: amelyachtowners
> > Sent: Fri, Sep 19, 2014 2:04 pm
> > Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] A couple questions
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Pat,
> > Where are you heading in the Caribbean?
> > Eric
> > Sm376 Kimberlite
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@...
> [amelyachtowners]"
> > Date: Friday, September 19, 2014 11:28 am
> > Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] A couple questions
> > To: amelyachtowners@...
> >
> > > Hey hey hey!
> > >
> > > Thats the spirit!
> > >
> > > Good weekend to Judy and you. Refit going along fine. Had to
> > > stop Riza from doing Coppercoat so soon and let the hull
> > become
> > > "super" dry before he lathers it on... too costly to goof up.
> > >
> > > :-)
> > >
> > >
> > > Jean-Pierre Germain
> > > SY Eleuthera SM 007
> > >
> > >
> > > On 19 Sep 2014, at 16:17, 'Bill & Judy Rouse'
> > > yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Jean-Pierre, you and Alex have 4 things in common...the
> two
> > > you mentioned and:
> > > > Amel yachts
> > > > You are both good friends of mine
> > > > Bill
> > > > BeBe 387
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Germain Jean-Pierre
> > > jgermain@... [amelyachtowners]
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hello Alexander,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > We have 2 things in common: BBQ's and Aerobatic flying...
> > > decades ago in the military.
> > > >
> > > > Still use the BBQ but my passengers might not approve of
> my
> > > aerobatic skills... so I try to avoid them.
> > > >
> > > > Some nasty people say I can never really avoid
> aerobatics...
> > :-
> > > ) They are just nasty as I know I'm talented!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > :-)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Jean-Pierre Germain
> > > > SY Eleuthera, SM 007
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 19 Sep 2014, at 14:57, Alexandre Uster von Baar
> > > uster@... [amelyachtowners]
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> Good morning Jean Pierre,
> > > >>
> > > >> I have the Magma Catalina Infra Red.
> > > >> They recommend to attach with 2 supports, I used 3 (I can
> > > send you pictures if you wish).
> > > >>
> > > >> I purchased a 10 lbs propane tank and regulator
> especially
> > > for it which I attached outside.
> > > >> I also have a bag (attached on the rail) with several 1
> lb
> > > propane) in case the 10 lbs tank goes empty.
> > > >> I put a few more 1 lbs tank into the propane compartment.
> > > >>
> > > >> I purchased it as I did not want to use the oven inside
> the
> > > galley and create more heat in an already hot climate.
> > > >> All together I thought it was quite expensive, but I am
> > happy
> > > of my purchased.
> > > >>
> > > >> In my case (could be particular to the Infra Red version
> > only
> > > - don't know) if windy, then it doesn't stay warm, so I have
> > to
> > > block some of the air intake...
> > > >> I don't know if Mark has the Infra Red or the other one.
> > > >>
> > > >> Just as a side line. I flew aerobatic for 14 years, when
> I
> > > took passengers I made sure they ate (bread, bananas, etc.)
> on
> > > the way to the aiport.
> > > >> Empty stomach will increase sea sickness. So make sure
> you
> > > have a full stomach. Liquid will be bouncing arround and not
> > > good.
> > > >> I have never been see sick, but one day during my 106
> > class,
> > > the waves were getting bigger and the other 2 student got
> sea
> > > sick and I felt I was next.
> > > >> So I went down and make myself a couple of sandwiches and
> I
> > > was fine.
> > > >> If bad weather is expected I take Dramonime as
> prevention.
> > > >>
> > > >> Let me know if you want pictures of the Grill set-up.
> > > >>
> > > >> Sincerely, Alexandre
> > > >>
> > > >> --------------------------------------------
> > > >> On Fri, 9/19/14, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@...
> > > [amelyachtowners] wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] A couple questions
> > > >> To: amelyachtowners@...
> > > >> Date: Friday, September 19, 2014, 8:08 AM
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Pat, We have a propane
> > > >> Magma Grill and have used it (when anchored) in 20 knot
> > > >> winds. We love it. We have had no problem keeping it
> > > >> lit. We both get seasick
> > > >> and have found the best medication, with no side effects for
> > > >> us, is Stugeron. Outside of the USA it is sold over the
> > > >> counter. In the UK, it is commonly used to treat nausea for
> > > >> pregnant women. My point being, it is quite safe to
> > > >> take. I use it sparingly.
> > > >> I usually take some when I know we are going to get a blow
> > > >> and due to it not having side effects, I have my wits about
> > > >> me.Many sailors while
> > > >> in the USA will order it from Canada. It is very
> > > >> inexpensive.
> > > http://www.canadadrugs.com/products/stugeron/15mg Hope this
> > > >> helps, Best
> > > >> regards, Mark SM2K
> > > >> #275www.creampuff.us
> > > >> From: amelyachtowners@...
> > > >> [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
> > > >> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 8:58
> > > >> AM
> > > >> To:
> > > >> amelyachtowners@...
> > > >> Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] A couple
> > > >> questions We are preparing to sail down
> > > >> to the Caribbean next month for the winter and want to
> ask a
> > > >> couple questions . We are debating about taking along our
> > > >> propane grill , its hard to keep lit in all but calm
> > > >> conditions , we like to grill , but do not want to haul it
> > > >> down if we can not use it , I do not want to deal with
> > > >> charcoal. Has anyone a suggestion or success grilling in
> > > >> windy conditions. Second , what is an effective seasickness
> > > >> medication ? Thanks, Pat SM#123
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Strange engine problem

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

There is only one place for fresh water and coolant to mix and that is the hot water heater. Salt water and coolant can mix in the heat exchanger.

It is not the heat exchanger because water came out the cap with the engine off. That cap is higher than the sea water level.

The reason it did not reoccurr is probably the pipes got much hotter with the engine running. They are metal and metal expands with heat.

Isotemp Basic 40l is what you need. They make one for about 100 euro more with two coolant circuits. Main engine and generator!  That is the one I would buy.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
sent from my tablet

On Sep 21, 2014 6:54 PM, "Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Was your fresh water system pressurized when you hooked up the boiler the next day?  That's exactly what happened to mine when a leak developed in the water heater.
Can you taste any salt in the coolant?
Kent
SM 243
Kristy

From: "Rainer Huthmacher thelastoneever@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...>
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 11:13 AM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Strange engine problem

 
Hi everyone,
After using my engine for about 2.5 h I found engine coolant coming out of the overflow house. When I opend the cap of the heat exchanger more coolant was coming out. The engine never came over 90 degrees. Now comes the strange thing: next morning I opend the cap again and more coolant was coming out. The engine was completely cool and the evening before there was no more pressure on the heat exchanger.
So I suspected the boiler had an internal leak and put freshwater into the heat exchanger. So we bypassed the boiler and everything was good.
Just to make shure we hooked up the boiler the next day again to see if the coolant level was rising again. Nothing happened. What else could be the problem?
The engine is a Perkins MT80 (similar to the Volvo TAMD22)
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated....
Fair winds
Rainer Huthmacher
SM#69 Yin Yang
Currently Almerimar, Spain




Re: Strange engine problem

phil.berghmans <no_reply@...>
 

Could be your boiler is broken due to corrosion .The heatexchanger element has a leak. My boiler was totally corroded as well .Threw it out...

Phil from Miles ahead santorin nr 101


Delivery address in Washington DC

Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
 

Hello ladies and gentlemen floaters,

During the refit for Eleuthera, SM 007, I must replace ancient electronics with more up-to-date kit. I trawled the Internet, went to the Southampton boat show, ask other boating friends, and finally Realized the best place to buy my electronics is in the USA.

As luck would have it, I have a business trip to Washington in early December. If you live in the area would you mind accepting delivery of my new electronics, HF, Pactor Modem, antenna tuner etc etc?

The price difference between buying from Defender Marine And the lowest price in Europe is still 50% less....

THIS IS AN ABSOLUTE NO-BRAINER.

Many thanks,


Jean-Pierre Germain
Eleuthera , SM 007


Re: MAC based Navigation

tango708@...
 

Don, thank you our hull numbers are close together.

Will Stout
SM 180
Anni Bea True


Re: MAC based Navigation

myersdon1
 

Mac ENC.  We used it for the last half of our circumnavigation.  Works extreamily well using Navionics charts.  We found the Navionics charts to be better than several the alternatives in several locations.

Don Myers
SV Harmonie, SM160


MAC based Navigation

tango708@...
 

Is anyone using or know of an Apple/MAC based navigation system?


Thanks,

Will




Seafever of cuan for sale

seafeverofcuan@...
 

Seafever of Cuan   unplanned genuine sale

SM425 redline 2004/5

Lying Mazatlan Mexico, Sea of Cortez

Large inventory

Listed with Michel Charpentier France

Very realistic price

or

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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Strange engine problem

seafeverofcuan@...
 

Rainer,
          The coil inside your water heater is perforated. To prove it either hook up to shore power or your generator and switch the water heater on. The hot water will expand find its way through the perforations and push the engine coolant back up through the overflow.
Regards,
Trevor
Seafever
SM 425
For SALE with lots of parts


Re: Gas Struts for engine cover

Alan Leslie
 

I think its the dimensions you need to specify more than anything else.
West Marine have a large selection in their catalogue.
Just google "Buy gas struts", there will be a supplier near you somewhere unless you're in some remote region
Alan
SV Elyse SM437
Noumea