Bill, I had to pickle the watermaker over the winter. I was told by Great Water to use potable antifreeze , which I did. Since it is not corrosive I assume it would do no harm to leave it pickled for a long period. I depickled mine and have been rinsing it since spring every few weeks. I am glad you posted the temps again , I want to compare it with what my pump temps are. How do you purge the air from the system ?   Thanks, Pat

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Fri, Sep 19, 2014 8:48 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Watermaker supplies

 

Pat , Let me try a reply again. Two of us that i know of have had parts damaged by the pickling solution. Myself and Gary Silver. I discussed this with Dessalator and they said rinsing with fresh unchlorinated water is best, unless this is impossible and you are going to leave it closed for more than 4 to 6 months. Regarding the LP pressure gauge, for years, I had the exact symptoms after changing pre-filters. I found that any air left in the filter housings will cause this issue. If the LP indicator shows pressure after the HP pump starts, I think it could be air in the closed system. I have been measuring the temperature of the LP and HP pumps as well as the HP pump motor...all after 1 hour of making water are: HP MOTOR 103C HP PUMP 72C LP PUMP MOTOR 53C I do not know if these are within tolerances, but it is what I have measured every time for the past 50 hours. I have the spreadsheet if you want it. Hope this helps Bill BeBe 387

 

Hi all. The oil in the reservoir is full but the greese is now empty. I have been giving it one turn every ten hours of motoring as well as one monthly. Do I just use waterproof trailer greese that is sold in west marine? Or is this a special type and how often do you turn the screw on your boats? Thank you very much for all your help. Ross

 

Ric, I do not get sea sick myself, I have sailed to the Caribbean before all around there for months and other offshore trips and never have been sick. I have crew and want to have something to offer them to prevent them from getting sick, I do not need that.  Pat

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Ric Gottschalk ric@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: 'amelyachtowners@...' <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Fri, Sep 19, 2014 10:12 am
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] A couple questions

 

Pat, I use meclizine. This is the same as the over the counter products line Bonine, except you can buy 50 tablets for under $10.00. I take ½ tablet every 12 hours, the first tablet 3-4 hours before. Some folks use the patch of scopolamine transdermal patch.. I would try out before going offshore.  If this is your first passage, I strongly recommend extra crew. Many hands make work easier. Go to Hank Schmidt of Offshore Passage Opportunities. Definitely bring good BBQ with cover. Never had a problem keeping lite. I have also added a connection from my propane tank to eliminate little bottles. Keeps the heat out of the cabin as a bonus.

Cheers,

Ric

SN24 Bali Hai

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 8:58 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] A couple questions

 

 

We are preparing to sail down to the Caribbean next month for the winter and want to ask a couple questions . We are debating about taking along our propane grill , its hard to keep lit in all but calm conditions , we like to grill , but do not want to haul it down if we can not use it , I do not want to deal with charcoal. Has anyone a suggestion or success grilling in windy conditions. Second , what is an effective seasickness medication ?  Thanks, Pat SM#123

 

We are preparing to sail down to the Caribbean next month for the winter and want to ask a couple questions . We are debating about taking along our propane grill , its hard to keep lit in all but calm conditions , we like to grill , but do not want to haul it down if we can not use it , I do not want to deal with charcoal. Has anyone a suggestion or success grilling in windy conditions. Second , what is an effective seasickness medication ?  Thanks, Pat SM#123

 

Hello Alexander,

We have 2 things in common: BBQ's and Aerobatic flying... decades ago in the military.

Still use the BBQ but my passengers might not approve of my aerobatic skills... so I try to avoid them.

Some nasty people say I can never really avoid aerobatics... :-) They are just nasty as I know I'm talented!

:-)

Jean-Pierre Germain

SY Eleuthera, SM 007

On 19 Sep 2014, at 14:57, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Good morning Jean Pierre,

I have the Magma Catalina Infra Red.
They recommend to attach with 2 supports, I used 3 (I can send you pictures if you wish).

I purchased a 10 lbs propane tank and regulator especially for it which I attached outside.
I also have a bag (attached on the rail) with several 1 lb propane) in case the 10 lbs tank goes empty.
I put a few more 1 lbs tank into the propane compartment.

I purchased it as I did not want to use the oven inside the galley and create more heat in an already hot climate.
All together I thought it was quite expensive, but I am happy of my purchased.

In my case (could be particular to the Infra Red version only - don't know) if windy, then it doesn't stay warm, so I have to block some of the air intake...
I don't know if Mark has the Infra Red or the other one.

Just as a side line. I flew aerobatic for 14 years, when I took passengers I made sure they ate (bread, bananas, etc.) on the way to the aiport.
Empty stomach will increase sea sickness. So make sure you have a full stomach. Liquid will be bouncing arround and not good.
I have never been see sick, but one day during my 106 class, the waves were getting bigger and the other 2 student got sea sick and I felt I was next.
So I went down and make myself a couple of sandwiches and I was fine.
If bad weather is expected I take Dramonime as prevention.

Let me know if you want pictures of the Grill set-up.

Sincerely, Alexandre

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On Fri, 9/19/14, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] A couple questions
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Friday, September 19, 2014, 8:08 AM


 









Pat,  We have a propane
Magma Grill and have used it (when anchored) in 20 knot
winds. We love it. We have had no problem keeping it
lit.  We both get seasick
and have found the best medication, with no side effects for
us, is Stugeron. Outside of the USA it is sold over the
counter. In the UK, it is commonly used to treat nausea for
pregnant women. My point being, it is quite safe to
take.  I use it sparingly.
I usually take some when I know we are going to get a blow
and due to it not having side effects, I have my wits about
me.Many sailors while
in the USA will order it from Canada. It is very
inexpensive.  http://www.canadadrugs.com/products/stugeron/15mg    Hope this
helps,    Best
regards,  Mark  SM2K
#275www.creampuff.us    
 From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 8:58
AM
To:
amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] A couple
questions    We are preparing to sail down
to the Caribbean next month for the winter and want to ask a
couple questions . We are debating about taking along our
propane grill , its hard to keep lit in all but calm
conditions , we like to grill , but do not want to haul it
down if we can not use it , I do not want to deal with
charcoal. Has anyone a suggestion or success grilling in
windy conditions. Second , what is an effective seasickness
medication ?  Thanks, Pat SM#123









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Richard, Do you use one charcoal and one regular ? Do you worry about the microns , my filter housing has 25 and 5 written on them ? Pat

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard03801 richard03801@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Fri, Sep 19, 2014 7:30 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Watermaker supplies

 

Pat we have used a Culligan charcoal Filters in line before the pump to keep anything from getting to the pump. Give clean good tasting water. and no chlorine so we can back flush the water maker without issues. Buy them

at most any hardware store.  

Fair Winds Smooth Sailing To All

Capt Richard 

RP Yacht Brokerage

Newport RI 

We list sell and service fine yachts including Amel's

Cell 603 767 5330

On Sep 19, 2014, at 7:01, "Patrick Mcaneny sailw32@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Eric, I was wondering that as well, they look the same as what I use in my house. The only thing is ,one is supposed to be 25 micron and one 5 micron. I have never noticed a micron level on the filters I buy for my house. I wonder if with two filters how important it would be. They would be a lot cheaper.  Pat SM 123

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Thu, Sep 18, 2014 11:12 pm
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Watermaker supplies

 

Doesn't a set of filters from home depot work as well?

Eric

sm 376 Kimberlite

----- Original Message -----
From: "derickgates@... [amelyachtowners]"
Date: Thursday, September 18, 2014 5:02 pm
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Watermaker supplies
To: amelyachtowners@...

> Pat,
>
> In the past I have purchased from Filters Fast at
> http://www.filtersfast.com/ http://www.filtersfast.com/
>
> as well as from http://www.waterfiltersonline.com
> http://www.waterfiltersonline.com
> There is also http://www.Great-water.com http://www.Great-
> water.com who I believe are the Dessalator rep in the U.S.
>
> Prices vary - much cheaper by the case.
>
> Hope these help.
>
> Derick Gates
>
> SM2K #400 Brava
>
>
>
>