Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu Cockpit Table Dimensions/Plan
Dave_Benjamin
Nathan,
Your table is bone stock I believe, however I modified it so it could be easily removed like the later Maramu tables. It wasn't a trivial project. |
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Maramu Cockpit Table Dimensions/Plan
Nat Bossett
On Wed, Dec 03, 2014 at 07:51:49AM -0800, jeremy@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:
Hello,Jeremy, I don't have plans but I do have what I believe is an original cockpit table. I can take whatever measurements/pictures you'd like with it installed or separate. -Nathan Maramu #29 |
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Re: Maramu Cockpit Table Dimensions/Plan
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Realized the Yahoo Image is broken:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Purchasing an Amel
Alexandre Uster von Baar
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If I may ask. Is your budget of $150 for the vessel itself or for everything… Before I purchase my SM 2000, I was told that the first year I will spend 20% of the price of the boat… I thought: not possible since, especially since it is in great condition, but I did… (mostly on spare parts for my trip). So if it is 150K total the Sharki is likely your only option. The Maramu is 46 ft (not 48), meanings the Mango and SM are 6 to 7ft longer (wider as well), but as I am sure you know the overall maintenance cost goes up as well. So take that in consideration in your yearly budget. Just my opinion… Sincerely, Alexandre SM2K #289 NIKIMAT Royal Palm, Dania Beach, Florida, USA -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 12/3/14, sqfrederick@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Purchasing an Amel To: amelyachtowners@... Date: Wednesday, December 3, 2014, 10:33 AM Thank you all for the warm welcome! Besides loving the Amel boats, I have found that the community surrounding them is amazing! I've posted in a couple different forums so far, and everyone has been super nice and ready to help! Definitely an added bonus to these boats :) I definitely understand about the pricing, but as I said, "Ideally" we will be around 150k. If we can find a boat that works around that price, we will be very happy! Realistically, we realize we are probably not going to get away that easy. I have come across a few good looking SMs at pretty good prices, (not 150k, but not undoable either..). I haven't seen any of them in person yet, so I don't know what kind of condition they are really in, or what their histories are, but based on those, and from talking to a few people, there are always good deals to be found. Fortunately, while we would love to jump on board and sail off right now, we do need to take a little more time, so are not in a big hurry... I have looked into the Maramus, but not the Sharkis yet. I do like the Maramus, but the problem we will have is they do not come with a generator or water maker. For the cruising we are going to be doing, that will be essential. I know we can add those in, but after looking at the Mangos and the SMs, I have a hard time thinking about a 48' instead! (The galley layout on the bigger boats just looks so much nicer! lol). We are not ruling them out, but focusing more on the bigger boats for now. I think the extra space and comforts of the bigger boats will be good for our sanity as well in the long run. If I was going on my own, or even as a couple, I think I would be a lot more likely to go with the Maramu, but taking off with a buddy, I think the extra 5' will make a big difference. Dave, interesting point about the rig for higher latitude sailing. That is definitely something we will keep in mind on our search. I think in the long run, we won't end up spending too much time in the high latitudes, so as long as the boat can handle the area for a while, I think we will be okay. I'm with you in that I have no interest in sailing with ice on the decks! I'm happy to see a few melting ice bergs as long as I know I will be headed towards a tropical beach soon! I'm heading back to the States for a few weeks for the holidays, and we are going to sit down and try to firm up our game plan then. Once we have a better idea of budget and time frame, I'm sure I'll have more specific questions for everyone. Until then, I'll keep browsing the forum to see what I can learn, and I am always happy to hear any advice, ideas or pearls of wisdom any of you have! 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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Purchasing an Amel
Nat Bossett
On Wed, Dec 03, 2014 at 08:33:45AM -0800, sqfrederick@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:
I have looked into the Maramus, but not the Sharkis yet. I do like theA Maramu has plenty of space to add a watermaker and those devices have improved a lot on power consumption in the last couple of decades, so a new one wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing vs the stock unit on the older (and frankly probably somewhat beat up as others have noted) Super Maramus in your price range. So far as power, solar is working out fine for me to handle refrigeration and lighting even when it's not fully sunny. Do you have a power budget put together? Lots of TV/stereo or something? I know we can add those in, but after looking at the Mangos and the SMs,Depending on where you want to keep it (including transient slips), being under 50' LOA can be good for the wallet. Dave, interesting point about the rig for higher latitude sailing.Not just high latitude. The manual rigs are quite manageable without roller furler main and mizzen, so it's more a question of what you want and feel comfortable with. The sail shape of non-roller-furling main and mizzen is certainly easier on the eye if you're fussy about such things. -Nathan Maramu #29 |
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Purchasing an Amel
Chris Smither <yachtakwaaba@...>
Hi Everyone here seems to forget there are Amel Santorins as well....46 ft, mostly Ketchs but a few sloops! Cheers Chris Smither santorin Sloop Akwaaba On 3 Dec 2014, at 23:33, sqfrederick@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: Purchasing an Amel
sqfrederick@...
Thank you all for the warm welcome! Besides loving the Amel boats, I have found that the community surrounding them is amazing! I've posted in a couple different forums so far, and everyone has been super nice and ready to help! Definitely an added bonus to these boats :)
I definitely understand about the pricing, but as I said, "Ideally" we will be around 150k. If we can find a boat that works around that price, we will be very happy! Realistically, we realize we are probably not going to get away that easy. I have come across a few good looking SMs at pretty good prices, (not 150k, but not undoable either..). I haven't seen any of them in person yet, so I don't know what kind of condition they are really in, or what their histories are, but based on those, and from talking to a few people, there are always good deals to be found. Fortunately, while we would love to jump on board and sail off right now, we do need to take a little more time, so are not in a big hurry... I have looked into the Maramus, but not the Sharkis yet. I do like the Maramus, but the problem we will have is they do not come with a generator or water maker. For the cruising we are going to be doing, that will be essential. I know we can add those in, but after looking at the Mangos and the SMs, I have a hard time thinking about a 48' instead! (The galley layout on the bigger boats just looks so much nicer! lol). We are not ruling them out, but focusing more on the bigger boats for now. I think the extra space and comforts of the bigger boats will be good for our sanity as well in the long run. If I was going on my own, or even as a couple, I think I would be a lot more likely to go with the Maramu, but taking off with a buddy, I think the extra 5' will make a big difference. Dave, interesting point about the rig for higher latitude sailing. That is definitely something we will keep in mind on our search. I think in the long run, we won't end up spending too much time in the high latitudes, so as long as the boat can handle the area for a while, I think we will be okay. I'm with you in that I have no interest in sailing with ice on the decks! I'm happy to see a few melting ice bergs as long as I know I will be headed towards a tropical beach soon! I'm heading back to the States for a few weeks for the holidays, and we are going to sit down and try to firm up our game plan then. Once we have a better idea of budget and time frame, I'm sure I'll have more specific questions for everyone. Until then, I'll keep browsing the forum to see what I can learn, and I am always happy to hear any advice, ideas or pearls of wisdom any of you have! Sam |
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Maramu Cockpit Table Dimensions/Plan
jeremy@...
Hello, Our Amel Maramu (#105) SVCerulean.com >> no longer has a cockpit table :( I found this picture online, but wanted to know if anyone had dimensions/plans/schematics for a replacement or the original unit? This is the ONLY picture I could find online: https://xa.yimg.com/df/amelyachtowners/Amel-maramu-cockpittable.jpg?token=bExacxA4hzgWA4PWEiZqVneHnMg_kcI3kWNkvOO67eCg3-J1E5wXQj4C2W_fX9R9fXYXa3EXKoJDfmNUZqYQkxsfh_AXMELyvICwqIugyUZNJlhHs98z_FGKTnSXrU6qCDbUjka0&type=download We would LOVE to have a table in the cockpit again, so we can set our drinks down and eat while underway. Thanks in advance. -Jer SVCerulean.com |
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New file uploaded to amelyachtowners
amelyachtowners@...
Hello,
This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the amelyachtowners group. File : /SVCerulean/Amel-maramu-cockpittable.jpg Uploaded by : mr_hermanns <jeremy@...> Description : Amel Maramu Cockpit Table Image You can access this file at the URL: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/files/SVCerulean/Amel-maramu-cockpittable.jpg To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: https://help.yahoo.com/kb/index?page=content&y=PROD_GRPS&locale=en_US&id=SLN15398 Regards, mr_hermanns <jeremy@...> |
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Re: Purchasing an Amel
n33077@...
Sam,
I just bought my Amel Sharki last April. Take your time searching. Based on your budget, I tend to agree that the Sharki or Maramu might be best for your budget, but this depends on your sailing and plans. Also be cognizant of future maintenance, duties, taxes, slip fees, and other costs involved. Things tend to get expensive quickly when you get bigger. You've already reached out to the most knowledgeable folks so you'll be in good hands. The group is helpful and has tons of information. I joined about two years before I bought my bought. I read continuously, monitoring common problems and keeping in mind what I should be looking out for as I searched for my boat. Other than that, if you have specific questions, just ask. Bon chance.... Aras Grinius S/V FIASCO Sharki #163 |
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Purchasing an Amel
Chris Flack
Hello Hans, Our boat is Hemera but used to be called Hemera of Dartmouth. We came home to Australia in January after sailing her down from Cesme where Riza put us in touch with the owners who wanted to sell. Riza installed a new solar arch and has done other works for us. We plan on going back next July for 3 months Riza has also been looking after her while we are away and believe he had her on Skopea Marina when all other Amels were there. Cheers Chris Sent from my android device. -----Original Message----- From: "'hanspeter.baettig@...' hanspeter.baettig@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...> Sent: Wed, 03 Dec 2014 7:42 PM Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Purchasing an Amel Hi Chris Can I ask you your boat name? I stay also in Göcek during sommer time at Skopie Marina and for wintering in Yacht Classic Marina in Fethiye. Service done by Riza Hanspeter SM #16 Tamango 2 Von meinem iPhone gesendet
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Purchasing an Amel
hanspeter baettig
Hi Chris Can I ask you your boat name? I stay also in Göcek during sommer time at Skopie Marina and for wintering in Yacht Classic Marina in Fethiye. Service done by Riza Hanspeter SM #16 Tamango 2 Von meinem iPhone gesendet
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Purchasing an Amel
Chris Flack
Sorry - I am Chris Flack in Melbourne Australia. I have Amel Super Maramu No 031 currently located in Gocek Turkey
On 03-12-2014 08:07, Ann-Sofie Svanberg kanalmamman@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Purchasing an Amel
Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...>
And you are?? One bad thing with this forum is that you have to write your name and preferrably boat name, model and number. Nothing adds automaticly. It is so nice to know how is doing the posting. Cheers Ann-Sofie S/Y Lady Annila, SM #232 from 1998 Present in Chaguaramas Skickat från min iPad
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Purchasing an Amel
Chris Flack
I was advised to purchase the biggest boat i could afford by some American cruisers we met in Gocek Turkey - it was very sound advice. We bought a 1991 Super Maramu for 140,000 euro in pretty good condition and love her to death and can't wait to get back over there to see where she takes us. I've sailed on a lot of production boats and have to admit the Amel has its quirks but then you say WOW!! how did they think of doing it THAT way?? :)
Cheers
On 03-12-2014 04:08, dave_benjamin@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:
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Re: Main Sail Roller Battens
Dave_Benjamin
Jose,
I'd suggest you start with the mizzen. It's a small inexpensive sail and if it is irreparably damaged, you can keep sailing. You could also consider having a prototype made out of some relatively inexpensive Dacron. If the plan is to perfect the concept and then build a sail for the long term, your prototype should be under $1000 not including the battens. When I do prototyping, I usually just run those projects at my cost plus 10% to cover administrative expenses. I'm not volunteering for this one since you're not local to us. Those Flattens look interesting. Those might not add that much thickness to the roll if installed perpendicular to the mast. Another way to design a sail like this would be to set the pockets parallel to the foot. |
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Re: Purchasing an Amel
Dave_Benjamin
Your budget is suited for a Maramu or Sharki. Both are great boats. I used to own one of the first Maramu's made, hull #29. In some respects, I like the idea of the old Maramu with conventional rig for high latitude work. There's less to go wrong (no thruster, no C-Drive, minimal electrical requirements, no in-mast furling motors, etc. etc.) Even if you can do your own work, a 150K SM is a major project boat, most likely a salvaged boat. If you can find a Mango, that's a good way to go as well, particularly the older ones as I mentioned previously that are simpler.
The people I know who have sailed extensively in polar regions tend to favor very simple boats. I personally have no experience in the high latitudes although I have been stuck sailing with ice on the decks, which I have vowed not to repeat. Ice is best confined to a cocktail glass. |
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Purchasing an Amel
Hi Sam,
Welcome to the group. We too found ourselves in the same situation and once we decided on Amel had to face the reality of a higher budget. We shopped for almost 3 years before making a purchase. I will offer my 2 cents worth: I think what you are trying to find is going to prove very difficult in the price range you specify. I would advise you to try to find an Amel that is as close to original as possible. If systems were replaced you will find yourself with issues you did not expect. One of the key learning’s of Amel is things are a certain way for a reason. Sometimes the reason is not apparent until you change something. And, then you have an “ah ha” moment. Amel’s are different from other boats in many aspects. Unfortunately, a boat that is original is going to cost you more than you think. It’s painful but worth it. If you are seeking just a solid hull, you will miss all the added benefits that an Amel owner experiences. You will also find this group to be the most helpful if you have a start point on an issue you are trying to resolve. Obviously, the hull is a critical aspect, but I would purchase a boat needing to be repowered, needing a new generator, and needing a watermaker before I purchased a “molested” or “mutilated” Amel. Again, just my 2 cents, hope it helps.
Mark SM2K#275 On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 9:59 AM, sqfrederick@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Purchasing an Amel
Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
Welcome aboard. Tough to find a SM in reasonable condition at $150000. We wish the best. We are all here to help each other. Fair Winds Smooth Sailing To All Capt Richard RP Yacht Brokerage Newport RI We list sell and service fine yachts including Amel's Cell 603 767 5330 On Dec 2, 2014, at 09:59, sqfrederick@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Purchasing an Amel
Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
Welcome aboard Sam. Jean-Pierre Germain Eleuthera SM007 On 2 Dec 2014, at 15:59, sqfrederick@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
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